Is the Masters lottery “random”?



Do they pull info on people and “randomly” decide who to invite?



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  • Ashley SchaefferAshley Schaeffer Members Posts: 1,953 ✭✭
    I know I'm 0'fer on getting invited as a player despite being a solid 3.8 with great hands! It's very political. Maybe next year.
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  • OutBackHackOutBackHack Members Posts: 905 ✭✭
    Great question, a friend of mine has got tix 4 years in a row.
  • md1mmd1m Members Posts: 782 ✭✭


    Great question, a friend of mine has got tix 4 years in a row.




    What kind of physician is he?
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  • goosekee2goosekee2 Clarion, IowaMembers Posts: 177 ✭✭
    This guy was denied. Curious how each person is picked.
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    I thought I signed up? Are you guys getting denial emails from the Masters?
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    We've been trying for the past 10+ years without any success.
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  • sticknerstickner Posts: 378
    md1m wrote:



    Great question, a friend of mine has got tix 4 years in a row.




    What kind of physician is he?




    Democrat or Republican?



    Paper or plastic?



    Toilet paper over or under?
  • onelochevyonelochevy Posts: 188 ✭✭
    rymail00 wrote:


    I thought I signed up? Are you guys getting denial emails from the Masters?




    I havent gotten the email yet, but you can log into your account and see your ticket status.



    As for me, my dad and I have both been selected once in the last 7 years. He got them in 2013 and I got picked in 2015. Practice rounds both times. Denied this year though.
  • BNGLBNGL Members Posts: 1,561 ✭✭
    Buddy of mine enters every year, and has gotten them each of the past seven. The kicker is he gets tickets anyways from being a Class A superintendent. So he and his dad (one class A and one CGCS) both got picked in the lottery and already had their complimentary badges....so lucky I think they paid for their whole trip with the extra badges.



    Fun fact I think 20 GCSAA members have been banned for life from ANGC
  • golfandfishinggolfandfishing Members Posts: 3,398 ✭✭
    BNGL wrote:


    Buddy of mine enters every year, and has gotten them each of the past seven. The kicker is he gets tickets anyways from being a Class A superintendent. So he and his dad (one class A and one CGCS) both got picked in the lottery and already had their complimentary badges....so lucky I think they paid for their whole trip with the extra badges.



    Fun fact I think 20 GCSAA members have been banned for life from ANGC




    Funny coincidence here - I worked with 2 other assistant pros in AZ. One is banned from Augusta for life and one went on to work there.
  • North TexasNorth Texas Members Posts: 4,015 ✭✭

    BNGL wrote:


    Buddy of mine enters every year, and has gotten them each of the past seven. The kicker is he gets tickets anyways from being a Class A superintendent. So he and his dad (one class A and one CGCS) both got picked in the lottery and already had their complimentary badges....so lucky I think they paid for their whole trip with the extra badges.



    Fun fact I think 20 GCSAA members have been banned for life from ANGC




    Funny coincidence here - I worked with 2 other assistant pros in AZ. One is banned from Augusta for life and one went on to work there.




    Okay, how much can either of you elaborate on why they were banned?
  • golfandfishinggolfandfishing Members Posts: 3,398 ✭✭
    Drunk and disorderly. Probably would have just been removed for the day but he was given the choice of leaving the hard way or the easy way and he chose the hard way.



    The other guy worked at Augusta, Congressional, East Lake and Inverness and is now HP at a well known east coast club hosting majors. I’d say where but would easy to identify him and he’s not on the forum to say that’s ok.
  • youdamantigeryoudamantiger Posts: 397 ✭✭
    I've entered the past four years and never won. My pal has entered every year they've had the lottery and never been picked. Meanwhile a mutual acquaintance of ours got picked the first three years he entered.
  • Newbs24Newbs24 Posts: 124 ✭✭
    Just my experience: I got picked this year while 2 of my cousins did not... If they took a look at tax returns and who they are married to, they would have chosen them way before me... No clue how it happens and I have to think it is as random as it gets if I got chosen
  • BNGLBNGL Members Posts: 1,561 ✭✭

    BNGL wrote:


    Buddy of mine enters every year, and has gotten them each of the past seven. The kicker is he gets tickets anyways from being a Class A superintendent. So he and his dad (one class A and one CGCS) both got picked in the lottery and already had their complimentary badges....so lucky I think they paid for their whole trip with the extra badges.



    Fun fact I think 20 GCSAA members have been banned for life from ANGC




    Funny coincidence here - I worked with 2 other assistant pros in AZ. One is banned from Augusta for life and one went on to work there.




    Okay, how much can either of you elaborate on why they were banned?




    Probably too much alcohol. We can’t sell our tickets easily, as they need our membership cards to match with drivers licenses or other picture forms of ID. I don’t know who it is, but every year when the GCSAA sends the notification that we get free entry it’s listed at the bottom.
  • ceejay81ceejay81 Love that chicken from Popeyes! Washington, DCPosts: 1,675 ✭✭
    I have not been picked in 12 years. My buddy had the same streak going until last year and I was fortunate to be able to go with him to Monday's practice round. This year I got a few non golf fan friends to sign up for me - they were excited to do so. One of them actually won 3 Wednesday practice round tickets for me!



    I really have no idea how it works.
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  • bladehunterbladehunter Today was a good day.... Members Posts: 25,072 ✭✭
    Never been. Live an hour or so away. Wasn’t picked again this year. Pretty sad really. But hey. I’m not paying the price the dishonest folks who enter and win just to flip them ask.
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  • sekrahsekrah Posts: 845 ClubWRX
    edited Jul 4, 2018 #20
    This is not scientific, just a guess based on what I read around here and other places, but if you put in for each day (Mon-Sun) I would guesstimate the odds are roughly around 8-1 that you get picked. Of course, that means you could catch lightning in a bottle and win a few years in a row, or you could just as easily go 15 years without winning.
  • j-robj-rob Members Posts: 1,078 ✭✭
    There’s nothing random about Augusta National or the Masters.
  • DatSliceDoeDatSliceDoe Camerons & Cobras One fairway overMembers Posts: 2,145 ✭✭
    10+ years, no tix. I'm on the "we regret" list.
  • countvelvetcountvelvet Posts: 195 ✭✭
    0 for the last 12 years for me. I thought Canadians would have a better shot since Mike Weir won in 2003!
  • BuffaloTimBuffaloTim Members Posts: 100 ✭✭
    I just logged into my account. My application for the 2019 Masters was not selected.
  • SuperQuadSuperQuad Members Posts: 20 ClubWRX
    Anyone got any idea whether they look more/less favourably on applications from outside the US? UK here and I’ve just received my 6th straight rejection!
  • golfgirlrobingolfgirlrobin Members Posts: 2,283 ✭✭
    I think it’s random, but I also think the number of tickets available through the lottery may be pretty small. There may be a dozen different ways they distribute them.



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  • fly787fly787 Las Vegas, Nevada and EuropePosts: 118 ✭✭
    I am 0 for whenever they went to the electronic system. Seems rather impossible to me .....
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  • grm24grm24 Western PAMembers Posts: 3,008 ✭✭
    edited Jul 5, 2018 #28
    fly787 wrote:


    Seems rather impossible to me .....
    Really? Do the math. There are likely millions of people that submit application requests every year for the available practice/tournament round tickets. What do you seriously think your odds are that you should be selected? For example if only 100 people submitted applications for tickets your chance of being selected is 1%. Increase that to 1000 people and it's 1/10 of 1 percent. Great odds there huh?



    Your odds of being selected get exponentially worse as the number of applicants increase. These is no conspiracy. Just people that do not understand/ignore how math works.
  • Ashley SchaefferAshley Schaeffer Members Posts: 1,953 ✭✭
    grm24 wrote:

    fly787 wrote:


    Seems rather impossible to me .....
    Really? Do the math. There are likely millions of people that submit application requests every year for the available practice/tournament round tickets. What do you seriously think your odds are that you should be selected? For example if only 100 people submitted applications for tickets your chance of being selected is 1%. Increase that to 1000 people and it's 1/10 of 1 percent. Great odds there huh?



    Your odds of being selected get exponentially worse from there as the number of applicants increase. <SMH>




    That could be good logic if they only selected one person. Otherwise, it's kinda crappy.
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  • Singapore JoeSingapore Joe Major? Winner? Posts: 1,597

    grm24 wrote:

    fly787 wrote:


    Seems rather impossible to me .....
    Really? Do the math. There are likely millions of people that submit application requests every year for the available practice/tournament round tickets. What do you seriously think your odds are that you should be selected? For example if only 100 people submitted applications for tickets your chance of being selected is 1%. Increase that to 1000 people and it's 1/10 of 1 percent. Great odds there huh?



    Your odds of being selected get exponentially worse from there as the number of applicants increase. <SMH>




    That could be good logic if they only selected one person. Otherwise, it's kinda crappy.


    Well... let's have more than one person selected. Think of a ticket winner selection as some sort of a function F:{A_1, A_2, ..., A_n} -> {YES, NO}^n which for each n applicant A produces a decision whether that applicant won or not. If the selection process is random, each output string of yeses and nos is equally likely, i.e occurs at a probability of 1/n.



    The number of tickets available is, say, k which is independent of number n as k is controlled by the committee but n can be anything. For any applicant, the probability of winning is k*(1/n)=k/n which means that if there are as many applicants as there are tickets, everybody wins (i.e. the probability =1). However, it is much more likely that k<n and once n goes up k/n goes down.



    We can't unconditionally say that odds get exponentially worse if the number of applicants increases but the odds do get worse in a pretty straightforward relationship with the number of applicants.
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  • Always_roughAlways_rough Members Posts: 460 ✭✭
    edited Jul 5, 2018 #31
    Every year I regretfully inform AGNC that I won't be attending just to show them what rejection feels like.
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