New Project X Hzrdus smoke shaft - 2018

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  • Gary GutfulGary Gutful Members Posts: 1,167 ✭✭
    I hope they come out with a 220 gram option.
  • mizunoMP14mizunoMP14 IndianaMembers Posts: 615 ✭✭
    edited Jul 10, 2018 #33
    The black HZRDUS logo assumes its some sort of black profile.



    I wonder if these are counterbalanced/higher balance point version of the black. The black is the opposite of counterbalanced, almost tip heavy. Counterbalanced seems to be the trend today with the heavy driver heads and 45"+ lengths.
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  • Jstdoit95Jstdoit95 jstdoit95 Members Posts: 188
    I’d like my t1100 to have that finish please.... image/sad.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':(' />
    --nope--
  • double or triple?double or triple? Members Posts: 1,965 ✭✭
    edited Jul 10, 2018 #35
    I’ve had my smoke since April and I love it. Haven’t been give the okay yet to give details but some here are partially correct in guessing the profile.
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  • sjugolf64sjugolf64 Members Posts: 245
    They are really coming out with a lot of shafts. Will be interesting where this one falls in the HZRDUS family. Needing to find a new driver shaft as mines starting disintegrate on the inside, so I've been testing out a Black, but its just not quite the right fit.
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  • SirHoselRocketSirHoselRocket Posts: 275
    edited Jul 10, 2018 #37
    Looks cool. I like the color scheme. The font they used for smoke well... it’s just not good. Should’ve just used the font from Project X. Keep it simple. But what do I know. I’m just a internet golf forum analyst
  • RobYakesRobYakes "You can talk to a fade but a hook won't listen" Washington, D.C.Members Posts: 318 ✭✭
    Somebody said it earlier on this thread but my guess is it's a non-counterbalanced version of the T1100. Big fan of the HZRDUS line, though I do wish the Black was a little less tip heavy. Couldn't figure out the Yellow, not a huge counterbalanced fan.
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  • ZBigStickZBigStick Practice Perfect Form Members Posts: 5,313 ✭✭
    I would think if it had T1100 fibers that it would mention it on the shaft somewhere.

    I’m going to go with the others and guess a variant of the Black or between the Red and Black in terms of tip stiffness.



    I would think that 80+ gram fairway shafts are still quite popular in the aftermarket.
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  • PixlPutterman PixlPutterman Look At My Lefty J33R(hey I can wish) Members Posts: 8,211 ✭✭
    PALS-SSA wrote:




    It used to be that we all were playing 130g steel in our woods.




    I still get my 983K out from time to time....has an X100 in it
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  • mister2coolmister2cool Members Posts: 3,684 ✭✭
    Jstdoit95 wrote:


    I’d like my t1100 to have that finish please.... image/sad.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':(' />




    No way!! T1100 has the best and coolest finish among all shafts to date IMHO. I only wish that finish was more durable.
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  • jtcookyjtcooky Members Posts: 99 ✭✭
    Smoke if you got em
  • PALS-SSAPALS-SSA Posts: 279 ✭✭
    Jgarn117 wrote:
    Rpete33 wrote:
    Rpete33 wrote:
    Interesting, would be nice if they would release 80-85g options on their shafts
    I honestly don't understand why this question gets asked every time..
    Sorry love their products just need a heavier option
    I actually have the HZRDUS black in 85 grams for my 3wood and it is a beast. I had to personally reach out to Project X and ask for the heavier option since it is tour issue only. They actually were nice enough to give me one for free!! Said it was my lucky day. I have since bought 3 other HZRDUS shafts and will be a brand loyalist for life. Especially if they keep spitting out �� shafts like this newest offering!!
    Surely there are ones, well.. like everyone on WRX... would use 80+g in woods. The point I was making is that we all know there is not enough demand for that for anyone to seriously consider releasing it in quantity. Yet the question gets brought up within the first few posts of every new shaft thread. The trend of the world is to make things lighter, not heavier, and stronger with advancement of new material and build techniques.




    Except that you are neglecting the concept of adding the weight strategically where you want. That is the whole concept behind counterbalancing.



    There is also a physical limit where players can no longer "feel" the club because it is too light. This is why many players want a heavier shaft.



    Reality is that they offered the T1100 up to a 95g weight. So there is no reason that they CAN'T make them heavy enough. It's more sad that everyone knows they will make them for the Tour, but force players who want them to jump through hoops because they won't acknowledge they exist to the general public.
  • meliaantmeliaant Posts: 354 ✭✭
    Just when I thought my M3 with the HZRDUS black was all the driver I needed!
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  • MabyboiMabyboi Members Posts: 65 ✭✭
    meliaant wrote:


    Just when I thought my M3 with the HZRDUS black was all the driver I needed!




    Thats my setup too.



    9.5* 460cc M3 with HC HZRDUS Black 63g 6.5..



    Wondering how this smoke shaft will work... have the black in my P790 UDI as well...
  • ago33ago33 Members Posts: 2,152 ✭✭
    edited Jul 10, 2018 #46
    This looks hzrdus to my wallet

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  • mister2coolmister2cool Members Posts: 3,684 ✭✭
    edited Jul 10, 2018 #47
    PALS-SSA wrote:


    Except that you are neglecting the concept of adding the weight strategically where you want. That is the whole concept behind counterbalancing.



    There is also a physical limit where players can no longer "feel" the club because it is too light. This is why many players want a heavier shaft.



    Reality is that they offered the T1100 up to a 95g weight. So there is no reason that they CAN'T make them heavy enough. It's more sad that everyone knows they will make them for the Tour, but force players who want them to jump through hoops because they won't acknowledge they exist to the general public.




    I am not following the logic of counterbalancing and weight. It doesn't have to be 80+g to get a shaft counter balanced.

    I was talking about releasing 80+g wood shaft to retail doesn't make sense for manufactures. What is interesting is that the picture of 95g T1100 I saw actually looks a bit off. It could be the lighting but the finish really doesn't look right. Even the butt sticker doesn't look like what was on the ones directly from PX lab. I would have to inquire TT about those.

    Hey, to each his own. You like heavy shafts and it is all good. Those would be harder and harder to find for sure.
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  • wldchld22wldchld22 Members Posts: 3,326 ✭✭
    So it’s either a counter balanced black with no T1100 material



    Or



    A T1100 black that isn’t counter balanced.



    Just my guess.
  • getair23getair23 Members Posts: 1,922 ✭✭

    Jstdoit95 wrote:


    I’d like my t1100 to have that finish please.... image/sad.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':(' />




    No way!! T1100 has the best and coolest finish among all shafts to date IMHO. I only wish that finish was more durable.
    They can’t use the T1100 finish on this one. They would have to call it Smoke and Mirrors, and that is terrible marketing.
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  • DTown3011DTown3011 #DTown3011 ClubWRX Posts: 3,553 ClubWRX
    Nothing from True Temper on this one yet?!
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  • jonn443jonn443 Jonnystx Members Posts: 4,587 ✭✭


    I’ve had my smoke since April and I love it. Haven’t been give the okay yet to give details but some here are partially correct in guessing the profile.






    How...
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  • Kale_mKale_m Members Posts: 1,737 ✭✭
    I an betting it’s a counter balanced shaft with the black profile
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  • Always_roughAlways_rough Members Posts: 460 ✭✭
    getair23 wrote:


    Jstdoit95 wrote:


    I’d like my t1100 to have that finish please.... image/sad.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':(' />




    No way!! T1100 has the best and coolest finish among all shafts to date IMHO. I only wish that finish was more durable.
    They can’t use the T1100 finish on this one. They would have to call it Smoke and Mirrors, and that is terrible marketing.




    Soooo, golf marketing in a nut shell?
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  • calogecaloge Posts: 436 ✭✭
    Missed opportunity



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  • mister2coolmister2cool Members Posts: 3,684 ✭✭
    DTown3011 wrote:


    Nothing from True Temper on this one yet?!




    DB is on vacation this week so perhaps he'll jump in with some info next week.
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  • RonSwansonRonSwanson Honor: if you need it defined, you don’t have it. ClubWRX Posts: 1,626 ClubWRX
    My take:



    A "more playable" black profile that is more traditionally balanced to slighly counterbalanced. No T1100 as it is not mentioned in the graphics like the original T1100 or the EvenFlow White T1100.
  • Go_TimeGo_Time _ Members Posts: 2,270 ✭✭
    Smoke will have similar profile and feel to the Black, but with different materials and lower spin. Oct/Nov retail timeline.
  • PixlPutterman PixlPutterman Look At My Lefty J33R(hey I can wish) Members Posts: 8,211 ✭✭
    Go_Time wrote:


    Smoke will have similar profile and feel to the Black, but with different materials and lower spin. Oct/Nov retail timeline.




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  • double or triple?double or triple? Members Posts: 1,965 ✭✭
    No T1100 and it’s not counter balanced (hzrdus yellow) or tip heavy (hzrdus black).
  • exitlowandleftexitlowandleft Posts: 187 ✭✭
    Is it out on tour yet?..if so is anyone playing it?
  • ForTourUseOnlyForTourUseOnly 009M SSS WeldNeck Members Posts: 1,044 ✭✭

    PALS-SSA wrote:


    Except that you are neglecting the concept of adding the weight strategically where you want. That is the whole concept behind counterbalancing.



    There is also a physical limit where players can no longer "feel" the club because it is too light. This is why many players want a heavier shaft.



    Reality is that they offered the T1100 up to a 95g weight. So there is no reason that they CAN'T make them heavy enough. It's more sad that everyone knows they will make them for the Tour, but force players who want them to jump through hoops because they won't acknowledge they exist to the general public.




    I am not following the logic of counterbalancing and weight. It doesn't have to be 80+g to get a shaft counter balanced.

    I was talking about releasing 80+g wood shaft to retail doesn't make sense for manufactures. What is interesting is that the picture of 95g T1100 I saw actually looks a bit off. It could be the lighting but the finish really doesn't look right. Even the butt sticker doesn't look like what was on the ones directly from PX lab. I would have to inquire TT about those.

    Hey, to each his own. You like heavy shafts and it is all good. Those would be harder and harder to find for sure.




    I can confirm that the T1100 95g wood shaft does exist, DJ plays it on and off and I own one. The sticker on the butt end is the original stickers they use before they take something to production, its more of a printer label sticker on paper not the slightly more durable one that they use for the production retail stuff.



    Hzrdus Black 95 also exists on tour and there are multiple different heavier hybrid weights that are tour only in the Hzrdus/Evenflow line up as well



    Last year TT/PX made some of the tour models available to select retailers through their TT+ (PFC) program but you had to be quick to get your hands on them.
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