New Project X Hzrdus smoke shaft - 2018

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  • mister2coolmister2cool Members Posts: 3,710 ✭✭
    edited Jul 13, 2018 #62


    I can confirm that the T1100 95g wood shaft does exist, DJ plays it on and off and I own one. The sticker on the butt end is the original stickers they use before they take something to production, its more of a printer label sticker on paper not the slightly more durable one that they use for the production retail stuff.



    Hzrdus Black 95 also exists on tour and there are multiple different heavier hybrid weights that are tour only in the Hzrdus/Evenflow line up as well



    Last year TT/PX made some of the tour models available to select retailers through their TT+ (PFC) program but you had to be quick to get your hands on them.




    Yes TT confirmed that they did make T1100 in 95g as "one off for tour" but didn't go further into any details. I do know DJ played that in his 3W and that doesn't surprise me either. However, they said they said did sell it through their PFC so I am amazed that there are so many out there.



    Below is a picture of the butt sticker from an ebay listing. The usual printed sticker is to the right of the photo. It usually has product name, flex weight, and date it was made. It's that big bold sticker that look strange to me. I have never seen any HC shafts came from the lab with a second sticker.

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    This is what's on my EF White:

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    This was what came on my T1100

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    2017 M1 440 10.5, Project X Even Flow Black 65 6.0
    2017 M1 3W, Project X Even Flow Blue 75 6.0
    RBZ Stage 2 18*H,Project X Even Flow Blue 85 6.0
    Srixon z945 4-P, DG S300
    Nike Engage DS 52* DG S400
    Nike Engage TS 58* DG S400
    Callaway X-Forged 64* DG S400
    Putter... Who needs that?
  • mister2coolmister2cool Members Posts: 3,710 ✭✭
    Go_Time wrote:


    Smoke will have similar profile and feel to the Black, but with different materials and lower spin. Oct/Nov retail timeline.




    You are right on! It is 2nd gen Black and release time frame isn't until late Oct.
    2017 M1 440 10.5, Project X Even Flow Black 65 6.0
    2017 M1 3W, Project X Even Flow Blue 75 6.0
    RBZ Stage 2 18*H,Project X Even Flow Blue 85 6.0
    Srixon z945 4-P, DG S300
    Nike Engage DS 52* DG S400
    Nike Engage TS 58* DG S400
    Callaway X-Forged 64* DG S400
    Putter... Who needs that?
  • webberwebber Webber Members Posts: 1,607 ✭✭
    I heard there is a Mid Launch version T1100 as well on tour???
    Taylormade M4 9.5 Evenflow Black 65 6.5
    Taylormade M4 15* Evenflow Black 75 6.5
    Titleist 816 H2 19* Diamana D+ 90 X
    Ping iBlade 4-PW PX LZ 6.0
    Titleist Vokey SM5 50F-54S, Taylormade Hi-Toe 60.10
    Taylormade Spider Red
    Pro V1
  • mister2coolmister2cool Members Posts: 3,710 ✭✭
    webber wrote:


    I heard there is a Mid Launch version T1100 as well on tour???




    Isn't that the T800? image/taunt.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':taunt:' /> image/taunt.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':taunt:' />
    2017 M1 440 10.5, Project X Even Flow Black 65 6.0
    2017 M1 3W, Project X Even Flow Blue 75 6.0
    RBZ Stage 2 18*H,Project X Even Flow Blue 85 6.0
    Srixon z945 4-P, DG S300
    Nike Engage DS 52* DG S400
    Nike Engage TS 58* DG S400
    Callaway X-Forged 64* DG S400
    Putter... Who needs that?
  • drussell1980drussell1980 Members Posts: 8
    Go_Time wrote:


    OK i'll volunteer to test it and provide detailed review. Callaway tip, 6.5, 75g please image/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />


    I swing between 114mph-117mph consistently (with the occasional 118-119mph when I try to hit it hard) on trackman so naturally it was suggested that I get a 6.5 flex in a 76 gram HZRDUS Yellow...

    It was too stiff which is a problem that I have never had unless I got carried away and over tipped a X-Flex trying to make it stiffer! Anyway... Instead of getting another 76 gram with a 6.0 flex I went with the 63 gram 6.5 flex and I am ABSOLUTELY BOMBING IT! I never tried anything under 70 before but After getting used to less weight I’m touching 330 for the 1st time since college. 330 yards is a number that I believed was in my past! I was hitting the 76 gram 305-310 Max! I don’t know if I got a 6.5 in the 76 gram that had been tipped but it was much stiffer than the 63 gram 6.5 flex! I don’t think I can go back to a 76 gramer after seeing such a consistent increase in distance!

    I’m using this new to me Hzrdus shaft in a Ping G400 LST 8.5 degree driver (turned down -.6 degrees). My previous shaft was an untipped Tour AD GP 7-X. I have played it for the last 3 years in 2 different drivers. I almost want to try a lighter version of it because I loved the control and ball flight I was getting out of it! I’m hitting the Hzrdus 63 gram 6.5 flex on average 15 yards further! Occasionally 30 yards which is unbelievable to me because I have never had this much improvement resulting from an equipment upgrade!

    Is the Hzrdus just a better shaft than the tour ad? The price says it’s not that’s why I’m asking... I paid like $370 for my tour ad 3 years ago when they were going for **** near $500! I got a new hand crafted Hzrdus for $209 which I was told is a good deal.
  • TrueTemperTrueTemper Sponsors Posts: 1,237 ✭✭
    HZRDUS Smoke Black is the next generation of HZRDUS Black. As someone stated the original HZRDUS Black was very tip heavy, standard weight heads at 45"+ would swing weight in the high Ds.



    With Smoke Black we have made the shaft neutral balanced, getting about 1.5-2 SW points out of the shaft.



    Also in the softer flexes we backed off the stiffness and torque a little as the Original Blacks in 5.5 and 6.0 were way to stiff for that target market.



    DB
    WI Don's Bag Dr- EvenFlow Blue, FWs- HZRDUS Red Hy- EvenFlow Blue, Irons- Prototypes
  • Go_TimeGo_Time _ Members Posts: 2,309 ✭✭
    TrueTemper wrote:


    HZRDUS Smoke Black is the next generation of HZRDUS Black. As someone stated the original HZRDUS Black was very tip heavy, standard weight heads at 45"+ would swing weight in the high Ds.



    With Smoke Black we have made the shaft neutral balanced, getting about 1.5-2 SW points out of the shaft.



    Also in the softer flexes we backed off the stiffness and torque a little as the Original Blacks in 5.5 and 6.0 were way to stiff for that target market.



    DB




    Someone around here should probably hit one to confirm image/wink.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=';)' />
  • TrueTemperTrueTemper Sponsors Posts: 1,237 ✭✭
    Go_Time wrote:

    TrueTemper wrote:


    HZRDUS Smoke Black is the next generation of HZRDUS Black. As someone stated the original HZRDUS Black was very tip heavy, standard weight heads at 45"+ would swing weight in the high Ds.



    With Smoke Black we have made the shaft neutral balanced, getting about 1.5-2 SW points out of the shaft.



    Also in the softer flexes we backed off the stiffness and torque a little as the Original Blacks in 5.5 and 6.0 were way to stiff for that target market.



    DB




    Someone around here should probably hit one to confirm image/wink.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=';)' />




    I have.



    It's real and it's spectacular.
    WI Don's Bag Dr- EvenFlow Blue, FWs- HZRDUS Red Hy- EvenFlow Blue, Irons- Prototypes
  • Go_TimeGo_Time _ Members Posts: 2,309 ✭✭
    TrueTemper wrote:

    Go_Time wrote:

    TrueTemper wrote:


    HZRDUS Smoke Black is the next generation of HZRDUS Black. As someone stated the original HZRDUS Black was very tip heavy, standard weight heads at 45"+ would swing weight in the high Ds.



    With Smoke Black we have made the shaft neutral balanced, getting about 1.5-2 SW points out of the shaft.



    Also in the softer flexes we backed off the stiffness and torque a little as the Original Blacks in 5.5 and 6.0 were way to stiff for that target market.



    DB




    Someone around here should probably hit one to confirm image/wink.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=';)' />




    I have.



    It's real and it's spectacular.




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  • PixlPutterman PixlPutterman Look At My Lefty J33R(hey I can wish) Members Posts: 8,243 ✭✭
    TrueTemper wrote:

    Go_Time wrote:

    TrueTemper wrote:


    HZRDUS Smoke Black is the next generation of HZRDUS Black. As someone stated the original HZRDUS Black was very tip heavy, standard weight heads at 45"+ would swing weight in the high Ds.



    With Smoke Black we have made the shaft neutral balanced, getting about 1.5-2 SW points out of the shaft.



    Also in the softer flexes we backed off the stiffness and torque a little as the Original Blacks in 5.5 and 6.0 were way to stiff for that target market.



    DB




    Someone around here should probably hit one to confirm image/wink.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=';)' />




    I have.



    It's real and it's spectacular.




    She's flaunting societies conventions!!!!!
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    Mizuno MP Fli Hi 18° - C Taper 125
    Mizuno MP Fli Hi 23° - C Taper 120
    Wilson Staff FG62 - S300
    Cobra Tour Trusty 52°/56°/62°- S300
    Mizuno TP Mills TP7 
    RZN Platinum
  • double or triple?double or triple? Members Posts: 1,970 ✭✭
    TrueTemper wrote:

    Go_Time wrote:

    TrueTemper wrote:


    HZRDUS Smoke Black is the next generation of HZRDUS Black. As someone stated the original HZRDUS Black was very tip heavy, standard weight heads at 45"+ would swing weight in the high Ds.



    With Smoke Black we have made the shaft neutral balanced, getting about 1.5-2 SW points out of the shaft.



    Also in the softer flexes we backed off the stiffness and torque a little as the Original Blacks in 5.5 and 6.0 were way to stiff for that target market.



    DB




    Someone around here should probably hit one to confirm image/wink.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=';)' />




    I have.



    It's real and it's spectacular.




    I have too and spectacular is definitely a good word to describe it. Feel is great for being “hzrdus” profile/design.
  • jokerusnjokerusn nice shoes Northern NJClubWRX Posts: 4,685 ClubWRX
    TrueTemper wrote:


    HZRDUS Smoke Black is the next generation of HZRDUS Black. As someone stated the original HZRDUS Black was very tip heavy, standard weight heads at 45"+ would swing weight in the high Ds.



    With Smoke Black we have made the shaft neutral balanced, getting about 1.5-2 SW points out of the shaft.



    Also in the softer flexes we backed off the stiffness and torque a little as the Original Blacks in 5.5 and 6.0 were way to stiff for that target market.



    DB




    ****. I guess I'm going to have to try a 65 6.5. Do you have a time table for release?
    M3 9.5°  Ventus 6-X
    M5 15°  Tensei CK Pro 70TX
    818H2 19°  HZRDUS 85 6.5
    790 UDI  PX Catalyst 6.5  -or-  TP UDI 3  PX HB6
    790 4i / Z745 5-9  Nippon 950GH 
    SM7 46F 52F 58D 62M  DG 115 / KBS Tour 120
    Mann MA/66

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  • mister2coolmister2cool Members Posts: 3,710 ✭✭
    Go_Time wrote:

    TrueTemper wrote:


    HZRDUS Smoke Black is the next generation of HZRDUS Black. As someone stated the original HZRDUS Black was very tip heavy, standard weight heads at 45"+ would swing weight in the high Ds.



    With Smoke Black we have made the shaft neutral balanced, getting about 1.5-2 SW points out of the shaft.



    Also in the softer flexes we backed off the stiffness and torque a little as the Original Blacks in 5.5 and 6.0 were way to stiff for that target market.



    DB




    Someone around here should probably hit one to confirm image/wink.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=';)' />




    Someone will! LOL
    2017 M1 440 10.5, Project X Even Flow Black 65 6.0
    2017 M1 3W, Project X Even Flow Blue 75 6.0
    RBZ Stage 2 18*H,Project X Even Flow Blue 85 6.0
    Srixon z945 4-P, DG S300
    Nike Engage DS 52* DG S400
    Nike Engage TS 58* DG S400
    Callaway X-Forged 64* DG S400
    Putter... Who needs that?
  • gioguy21gioguy21 NJMembers Posts: 7,354 ✭✭
    i would love to hit this thing -- it'd be more up my alley than the Evenflow.

    Epic Flash SZ / 9* / DRIVER SHAFT TBD
    Epic Flash SZ / 3+ / DF 70TX tipped 1.50"
    Epic Flash / 5 / BF 90TX Tipped 1.75"
    785 / 3-PW / PX 7.0
    RTX4 / 52, 59 / DG S400
    SC Kombi-s / 35.5"

  • MabyboiMabyboi Members Posts: 69 ✭✭
    Hey ProjectX, when you’re looking for testers I’d love to compare it to the HC black in my driver and driving iron 😬
  • fore_lifefore_life Swung too hard, hit it too pure. Members Posts: 10,352 ✭✭
    edited Jul 18, 2018 #77
    jacobEDGE wrote:

    Rpete33 wrote:

    Rpete33 wrote:


    Interesting, would be nice if they would release 80-85g options on their shafts




    I honestly don't understand why this question gets asked every time..




    Sorry love their products just need a heavier option




    Do you want it for a hybrid or driving iron? Or do you play your drivers super short so you need the extra weight of the shaft to counterbalance the swing weight?



    I can't imagine playing 85 gram shaft in a driver.




    95 in my 400 lst

    xSMOKEEMIFYOUGOTEMx
    Ping G400 LST Ust Attas Earth 9f5
    M4 15* with bimatrix rocket X
    Titleist 21* H2 evenflow blue 6.5
    718 tmb 4 iron
    718 cb 5-pw amt x100 tour
    Vokeys
    Cleveland TA milled 1i


    Various other putters currently in the closet,
    thinking about what they've done wrong,
    and how they've hurt me so.
  • Go_TimeGo_Time _ Members Posts: 2,309 ✭✭
    edited Jul 19, 2018 #78
    I'd like to compare to a lot! haha ...I have a lot to choose from - T1100 6.5 1" tipped, Hzrd Blk 6.5 1" tipped, Yzrd Yellow 6.5, EF Blk 6.5 1" tipped, Atmos black TS 7x, Kiyoshi Black 5flex. and Synergy Black Tour image/wink.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=';)' />
  • RobYakesRobYakes "You can talk to a fade but a hook won't listen" Washington, D.C.Members, ClubWRX Posts: 327 ✭✭
    My SS is 105-108 but I like the 6.5 HZRDUS Black and Red better than the 6.0. Counterbalanced shafts don't work for me but I'm excited to try a HZRDUS Black that is a bit more balanced.
    M4 9.5* Speeder Evo II 661X // M4 15* HZRDUS Black 6.5 // M4 18* HZRDUS Red 6.5 // P790 Modus 120S //
    MILLED GRIND 50* & 54* Modus 115W // HI-TOE 60* Modus 115W // SPIDER TOUR RED 34"
  • Rpete33Rpete33 Members Posts: 505 ✭✭
    Well found a black that’s 85 g for my 3 wood, would love to give this new smoke a go in my f8+ driver
  • Rpete33Rpete33 Members Posts: 505 ✭✭
    Do we have a release date yet?
  • Go_TimeGo_Time _ Members Posts: 2,309 ✭✭
  • Rpete33Rpete33 Members Posts: 505 ✭✭
    Go_Time wrote:
    Late fall




    Aka snow on the ground in South Dakota
  • Kale_mKale_m Members Posts: 1,773 ✭✭
    Should let some guys in Canada do some shaft testing for a change...
    Taylormade M6 9.0 (set to 7.5) Tensei Pro Orange 70tx
    Taylormade M5 rocket 14* Tensei Pro orange 80tx 
    Taylormade 790 UDI 2 iron Tensei Pro White 90tx
    Callaway Apex MB Raw TIX100
    Callaway md4 52/56
    Tm hi toe 60
    Tm spider x 35” navy with true path alignment
  • Go_TimeGo_Time _ Members Posts: 2,309 ✭✭
    There's a 6.5 flex Smoke for sale in the BST. He's asking $450
  • mister2coolmister2cool Members Posts: 3,710 ✭✭
    edited Jul 22, 2018 #86
    Go_Time wrote:


    There's a 6.5 flex Smoke for sale in the BST. He's asking $450




    Smoke them while you got them, right?
    Post edited by Unknown User on
    2017 M1 440 10.5, Project X Even Flow Black 65 6.0
    2017 M1 3W, Project X Even Flow Blue 75 6.0
    RBZ Stage 2 18*H,Project X Even Flow Blue 85 6.0
    Srixon z945 4-P, DG S300
    Nike Engage DS 52* DG S400
    Nike Engage TS 58* DG S400
    Callaway X-Forged 64* DG S400
    Putter... Who needs that?
  • mjbaker80mjbaker80 Members Posts: 609 ✭✭
    Saw on the very cool driver-usage article posted today that Bryson is using this?!? Makes sense....he's used both the T11 and BLACK.
  • Rpete33Rpete33 Members Posts: 505 ✭✭
    mjbaker80 wrote:
    Saw on the very cool driver-usage article posted today that Bryson is using this?!? Makes sense....he's used both the T11 and BLACK.




    Link?

  • kcowgolfkcowgolf kcowgolf Members Posts: 300 ✭✭
    Has anyone heard a release date? Looks great if it performs anything like the Black, I'm in.
    [font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif][background=rgb(252, 252, 252)]Ping G 400 LST 8.5 Hzdrus Black 62 X[/background][/font]
    [font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif][background=rgb(252, 252, 252)]Ping Anser 3 wood Tour AD DI 7X[/background][/font]
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  • mister2coolmister2cool Members Posts: 3,710 ✭✭
    kcowgolf wrote:


    Has anyone heard a release date? Looks great if it performs anything like the Black, I'm in.




    Late Oct as it had been mentioned many times
    2017 M1 440 10.5, Project X Even Flow Black 65 6.0
    2017 M1 3W, Project X Even Flow Blue 75 6.0
    RBZ Stage 2 18*H,Project X Even Flow Blue 85 6.0
    Srixon z945 4-P, DG S300
    Nike Engage DS 52* DG S400
    Nike Engage TS 58* DG S400
    Callaway X-Forged 64* DG S400
    Putter... Who needs that?
  • mjbaker80mjbaker80 Members Posts: 609 ✭✭
    Sorry, don’t have a link off hand. Was the front page on WRX.com this week. Easy to find....
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