TifEagle Bermuda Greens Question

ThinkingPlusThinkingPlus South TexasClubWRX Posts: 1,547 ClubWRX
We just joined a club this year that has TifEagle bermuda greens. They putt very nice and are pretty fast. What is odd and outside my experience are the ball marks. I am used to poa or bent greens where the ball leaves a depression when the greens are receptive. Hence the need to repair the mark bringing the depression back to level.



On these TifEagle greens the ball marks are barely dicernable smudges of disturbed grass. No lasting depression at all. In fact many times it is impossible to find a mark at all. Is this normal? No real trouble stopping the ball though.
Driver: Callaway GBB Epic 9° w/Project X HZRDUS T800 65 gm 6.0 flex
3W: Callaway Rogue w/Project X Evenflow 5.5 Graphite R-flex
Hybrids: Callaway Apex 3h, 4h w/MR Kuro Kage 80HY S-flex
Irons: Maltby TS-1 5i-GW w/KBS Tour R-flex
Sand Wedge: Titleist Vokey SM7 54/08 M Grind w/KBS Tour R-Flex
Lob Wedge: Titleist Vokey SM6 58/04 L Grind w/TT Wedge Flex
Putter: Scotty Cameron Futura X w/Super Stroke Mid Slim 2.0
Ball: Titleist AVX in yellow

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  • GTgolfGTgolf Members Posts: 518 ✭✭


    We just joined a club this year that has TifEagle bermuda greens. They putt very nice and are pretty fast. What is odd and outside my experience are the ball marks. I am used to poa or bent greens where the ball leaves a depression when the greens are receptive. Hence the need to repair the mark bringing the depression back to level.



    On these TifEagle greens the ball marks are barely dicernable smudges of disturbed grass. No lasting depression at all. In fact many times it is impossible to find a mark at all. Is this normal? No real trouble stopping the ball though.




    Yes it’s normal. They play fast and firm.
  • ThinkingPlusThinkingPlus South TexasClubWRX Posts: 1,547 ClubWRX
    GTgolf wrote:



    We just joined a club this year that has TifEagle bermuda greens. They putt very nice and are pretty fast. What is odd and outside my experience are the ball marks. I am used to poa or bent greens where the ball leaves a depression when the greens are receptive. Hence the need to repair the mark bringing the depression back to level.



    On these TifEagle greens the ball marks are barely dicernable smudges of disturbed grass. No lasting depression at all. In fact many times it is impossible to find a mark at all. Is this normal? No real trouble stopping the ball though.




    Yes it's normal. They play fast and firm.


    Thanks for the reply. I was concerned that there was something special about TifEagle that made shots stop on the green better even though there wasn't a ball mark and they appeared really firm.
    Driver: Callaway GBB Epic 9° w/Project X HZRDUS T800 65 gm 6.0 flex
    3W: Callaway Rogue w/Project X Evenflow 5.5 Graphite R-flex
    Hybrids: Callaway Apex 3h, 4h w/MR Kuro Kage 80HY S-flex
    Irons: Maltby TS-1 5i-GW w/KBS Tour R-flex
    Sand Wedge: Titleist Vokey SM7 54/08 M Grind w/KBS Tour R-Flex
    Lob Wedge: Titleist Vokey SM6 58/04 L Grind w/TT Wedge Flex
    Putter: Scotty Cameron Futura X w/Super Stroke Mid Slim 2.0
    Ball: Titleist AVX in yellow
  • whynotgolfwhynotgolf Members Posts: 66 ✭✭


    We just joined a club this year that has TifEagle bermuda greens. They putt very nice and are pretty fast. What is odd and outside my experience are the ball marks. I am used to poa or bent greens where the ball leaves a depression when the greens are receptive. Hence the need to repair the mark bringing the depression back to level.



    On these TifEagle greens the ball marks are barely dicernable smudges of disturbed grass. No lasting depression at all. In fact many times it is impossible to find a mark at all. Is this normal? No real trouble stopping the ball though.




    Very normal...our home course converted to Champions Bermuda or a similar strand, and anything short of a moon ball will not leave a pitch mark....once they are seasoned, they will hold just fine though....not as smooth as bent, but faster and easier to maintain in the south....I like them.
  • ThinkingPlusThinkingPlus South TexasClubWRX Posts: 1,547 ClubWRX
    whynotgolf wrote:



    We just joined a club this year that has TifEagle bermuda greens. They putt very nice and are pretty fast. What is odd and outside my experience are the ball marks. I am used to poa or bent greens where the ball leaves a depression when the greens are receptive. Hence the need to repair the mark bringing the depression back to level.



    On these TifEagle greens the ball marks are barely dicernable smudges of disturbed grass. No lasting depression at all. In fact many times it is impossible to find a mark at all. Is this normal? No real trouble stopping the ball though.




    Very normal...our home course converted to Champions Bermuda or a similar strand, and anything short of a moon ball will not leave a pitch mark....once they are seasoned, they will hold just fine though....not as smooth as bent, but faster and easier to maintain in the south....I like them.


    OK. That fits with what I am seeing. Thanks.
    Driver: Callaway GBB Epic 9° w/Project X HZRDUS T800 65 gm 6.0 flex
    3W: Callaway Rogue w/Project X Evenflow 5.5 Graphite R-flex
    Hybrids: Callaway Apex 3h, 4h w/MR Kuro Kage 80HY S-flex
    Irons: Maltby TS-1 5i-GW w/KBS Tour R-flex
    Sand Wedge: Titleist Vokey SM7 54/08 M Grind w/KBS Tour R-Flex
    Lob Wedge: Titleist Vokey SM6 58/04 L Grind w/TT Wedge Flex
    Putter: Scotty Cameron Futura X w/Super Stroke Mid Slim 2.0
    Ball: Titleist AVX in yellow
  • RichieHuntRichieHunt Members Posts: 3,647 ✭✭
    Yes, it's very normal. TifEagle is my preferred bermuda greens grass of choice.



    They are very durable and handle traffic well.



    The only issue is that I wouldn't recommend getting the stimp over 11 (or really 10.5 for that matter) unless you have a really skilled greenkeeper with a lot of resources at their disposal.

















    RH
  • SilverBulletsSilverBullets BMW Members Posts: 5,885 ✭✭
    Yup as others have said, perfectly normal. I played Harbour Town last week and they have converted to the TifEagle greens and that's basically how they played. TifEagle greens are great.
    Taylormade M6 10.5* - HZRDUS Smoke Black 6.5
    Taylormade '16 M2 15*
    Titleist 816h 21*
    Callaway Apex 4i thru PW - Nippon Modus 125 Tour X
    Vokey SM6 50*, 54*, 58*
    Scotty Cameron Circa 62 No. 2 - Scotty Custom Shop
  • ArtMBgolfArtMBgolf Members Posts: 368 ✭✭
    All of the hybrid bermuda greens play like that. Some courses will be softer than others, depending on soil and how much they water.



    The root system is stronger than bent. It's still good to find and fix those little ball mark dents.



    You generally need a spin ball, to take the big hop and stop.



    It seems to me that courses that roll + sand the hybrid greens can get them putting as true/fast as bent, at least the more average bent,

    not Augusta.



    I also feel that the hybrid greens don't break as much as bent greens. The sidehill putts on hybrid don't fall sideways as much as bent

    when they slow up at the hole.
  • defnotaprodefnotapro Members Posts: 542 ✭✭
    My home course has the TifEagle greens and like everyone else has said it is normal.



    Been playing some out of state courses with bent and other greens and have been leaving some huge divots and thinking geez I don't ever make divots at home like these.
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