have driving irons become new status quo?

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  • raynorfan1raynorfan1 Members Posts: 3,519 ✭✭
    Driving iron = mini driver fad of 2017/2018.



    Next year we’ll all be rocking 16* hybrids (don’t call it a 4 wood!).
  • fox_toddfox_todd Posts: 109 ✭✭
    mweaver84 wrote:


    Does buying a P790 3 iron count? Got one on order. Its 2 degrees strong than my 3 iron and assuming more forgiving so plan on using it like a 2 iron off the tee... I actually really like hitting my 3 iron of the tee when I can right now.



    Only trouble is I don't know what club I should take out of the bag if I like it and plan on keeping it. I want to keep them all! Assuming I'll need to change the wedge setup.




    Have had this idea too. Would love to hear your review once you try it out.
  • MtlJeffMtlJeff MontrealMembers Posts: 28,150 ✭✭
    MelloYello wrote:


    When companies are charging $250 for a single iron...I start to call BS. That's a fad they're making money on.



    Just how much performance difference are people observing between their driving iron and their standard forged CB 3-iron? I know how much difference I noticed--not that much. But it gives people something to spend they're money on.



    Personally, I'm kind of over them. For as little as I hit my longest irons I'd rather keep them matching the rest of my set.



    And yeah, you'd better build some forgiveness into that club-head if you're switching up shaft weight, shaft flex, swing weight, and other critical variables.




    Preach man....



    But careful because I've been saying that for a while and people get upset...



    Why you can't just buy a GI 3 iron for 1/2 the price I will never know
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  • ShipwreckShipwreck Members Posts: 3,692 ✭✭
    I currently have a TMB 3 iron w/ a HZRDUS Black 6.0. It’s a monster off the tee when I hit it, but that MIGHT be once a round depending on the course. I have contemplated going to a 4 and 3 hybrid as I feel they might be a little more versatile from the fairway and equally as good from the tee. I dunno. Golf is hard but I love it.
  • Krt22Krt22 Members Posts: 6,137 ✭✭


    I think they are very useful for longer hitters. A lot of the courses i play are tree/house lined and hitting a driver gains me no real advantage. Hitting a 2 iron stays short of lots of bunkers and still gives me wedges and short irons in. They are lifesavers on new courses for me when you dont know the line for driver. No hitting thru a dogleg or into a hazard you didnt know about.



    I personally can hit a driving iron straighter than a hybrid or 5w so i dont see myself going back. Modern driving irons are pretty **** forgiving off a tee.




    They should have just locked the thread up after this. My graphite shafted 18* DI has been fantastic for my game. I'm pulling it on more and more holes as I get more and more confident with it
  • chisagchisag Members Posts: 2,905 ✭✭
    ... Interesting that some complain about not being able to use a driving iron from the fairway or worse yet, the rough. I have had quite a few Utility irons in my bag the last several years including the UDi, FG Tour, U45, P790 3iron with a hybrid shaft and all of them have +'s and -'s, although I thought the Cobra King Utility was the most well rounded. But all of them launch relatively high, which is great for a Utility iron. I was looking for a true driving iron and found one in the 17* Exotics CBX Iron Wood 2 iron. It just naturally produces a low boring trajectory off the tee and it is perfect for the winds in Chicago and imagine it would be ideal in Texas too. It is equal good from the fairway producing that low piercing trajectory and into the wind it is just awesome. Did a comparison with my 5 wood last round and downwind the 5 wood traveled 15 more yards, but into the wind the DI traveled 10 more yards, and a slight mishit with the 5 wood will result in even more lost yards dead into the wind.



    ... But a DI isn't supposed to be used as a utility iron for approach shots and certainly useless out of the rough (I have tried several times just to be sure) so I still carry a 21.5* hybrid in my bag for those shots. I find the DI/hybrid combo to be the best of both worlds, especially if you play in windy conditions.
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  • Spooky67Spooky67 Members Posts: 1,318 ✭✭
    I think it just depends.? I was very comfortable wit a 2i growing up, as sets stopped coming with a 2i I eventually stopped carrying one. I did pick up a Callaway Apex UT 21deg with a KBS Tour-V 110S and love it. I have never got along with hybrids, but stumbled into a good deal on a M1 19deg so I have been experimenting with that. But I think that guys that always got along with long irons have been playing them since they have been available.? Guys that went the hybrid route may just now be experiencing the goodness.
  • radimanradiman Members Posts: 4,629 ✭✭
    I think part of it is the fact that there are now multiple solid options from some of the top manufacturers. For a while, the UDI seemed to be the best option and that was kind of a unicorn due to the limted production.



    Now TM, Titleist, Callaway, Cobra, Mizuno, Srixon, and Bridgestone all have very solid options readily available. They may have worked well in the past too, there just weren't a lot of stock/options.
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  • byflow2byflow2 Members Posts: 130 ✭✭
    it really is love my cobra utility
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  • theWISEmantheWISEman Legend in my own mind... TexasClubWRX Posts: 150 ClubWRX
    fox_todd wrote:
    mweaver84 wrote:


    Does buying a P790 3 iron count? Got one on order. Its 2 degrees strong than my 3 iron and assuming more forgiving so plan on using it like a 2 iron off the tee... I actually really like hitting my 3 iron of the tee when I can right now.



    Only trouble is I don't know what club I should take out of the bag if I like it and plan on keeping it. I want to keep them all! Assuming I'll need to change the wedge setup.




    Have had this idea too. Would love to hear your review once you try it out.
    I have a 790 3 iron with graphite design ad shaft and have it playing at 39.5”. It’s not as large or forgiving as other DI, but if you’re looking for large and forgiving just get a hybrid. I love mine and being that it’s a 3 iron without the large sole of a more modern DI, I find it easier to work off the tee and able to flight it a few different ways.

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  • chisagchisag Members Posts: 2,905 ✭✭
    tex_time wrote:

    fox_todd wrote:
    mweaver84 wrote:


    Does buying a P790 3 iron count? Got one on order. Its 2 degrees strong than my 3 iron and assuming more forgiving so plan on using it like a 2 iron off the tee... I actually really like hitting my 3 iron of the tee when I can right now.



    Only trouble is I don't know what club I should take out of the bag if I like it and plan on keeping it. I want to keep them all! Assuming I'll need to change the wedge setup.




    Have had this idea too. Would love to hear your review once you try it out.
    I have a 790 3 iron with graphite design ad shaft and have it playing at 39.5”. It’s not as large or forgiving as other DI, but if you’re looking for large and forgiving just get a hybrid. I love mine and being that it’s a 3 iron without the large sole of a more modern DI, I find it easier to work off the tee and able to flight it a few different ways.




    ... I played that set up for a little while but I would say it is quite forgiving for a 3 iron. It is after all a hollow head with some perimeter weighting and a slot on the sole which helps low strikes. I would still be playing my P790 3 iron with an Even Flow Blue Hy shaft if I had not found the Exotics CBX.
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  • taylormade4lifetaylormade4life Members Posts: 1,241 ✭✭
    edited Jul 11, 2018 #43
    MtlJeff wrote:

    MelloYello wrote:


    When companies are charging $250 for a single iron...I start to call BS. That's a fad they're making money on.



    Just how much performance difference are people observing between their driving iron and their standard forged CB 3-iron? I know how much difference I noticed--not that much. But it gives people something to spend they're money on.



    Personally, I'm kind of over them. For as little as I hit my longest irons I'd rather keep them matching the rest of my set.



    And yeah, you'd better build some forgiveness into that club-head if you're switching up shaft weight, shaft flex, swing weight, and other critical variables.




    Preach man....



    But careful because I've been saying that for a while and people get upset...



    Why you can't just buy a GI 3 iron for 1/2 the price I will never know




    For a 3-iron it works, but if you need sub 20* then there is no "GI" version. For the person you quoted... My 3I is my 212-215 "stock shot" and my 2I/DI is my "5 wood" and is a solid 225-228 carry. For me, it fits gaps better on long par 3s, or 2nd shots into a long par 4 or 5. Not to mention how great it is to have a mid flight 230-235 tee shot that rolls and is reliable.



    A lot of courses I play have 210-230 par 3s, holes with a lot of trouble in driver range, and some short and narrow par 4s where the UDI is perfect. I was sold when I hit a slightly choked down 2 iron into a 220 yard par 3, into the wind, and got it right into the front edge 15 feet from the hole. Prior to that, I would have to muscle a 3I or hope and pray my 5 wood got through the wind.



    I think there is some fad, but not for everyone..
  • MtlJeffMtlJeff MontrealMembers Posts: 28,150 ✭✭

    MtlJeff wrote:

    MelloYello wrote:


    When companies are charging $250 for a single iron...I start to call BS. That's a fad they're making money on.



    Just how much performance difference are people observing between their driving iron and their standard forged CB 3-iron? I know how much difference I noticed--not that much. But it gives people something to spend they're money on.



    Personally, I'm kind of over them. For as little as I hit my longest irons I'd rather keep them matching the rest of my set.



    And yeah, you'd better build some forgiveness into that club-head if you're switching up shaft weight, shaft flex, swing weight, and other critical variables.




    Preach man....



    But careful because I've been saying that for a while and people get upset...



    Why you can't just buy a GI 3 iron for 1/2 the price I will never know




    For a 3-iron it works, but if you need sub 20* then there is no "GI" version. For the person you quoted... My 3I is my 212-215 "stock shot" and my 2I/DI is my "5 wood" and is a solid 225-228 carry. For me, it fits gaps better on long par 3s, or 2nd shots into a long par 4 or 5. Not to mention how great it is to have a mid flight 230-235 tee shot that rolls and is reliable.



    A lot of courses I play have 210-230 par 3s, holes with a lot of trouble in driver range, and some short and narrow par 4s where the UDI is perfect. I was sold when I hit a slightly choked down 2 iron into a 220 yard par 3, into the wind, and got it right into the front edge 15 feet from the hole. Prior to that, I would have to muscle a 3I or hope and pray my 5 wood got through the wind.



    I think there is some fad, but not for everyone..




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  • golfatxgolfatx Members Posts: 12 ✭✭
    Me and my driver are on rocky terms currently so I've found myself taking 4i off the tee a lot as of late to keep things in play. Wanted a little more distance so picked up the 2i and after a few hitting a handful of shots at the range I'm already very pleased with the ball flight I'm getting. Even if it's 80% mental, the confidence I gain lining up with an iron off the tee is well worth it. Now I just gotta get my driver worked out image/russian_roulette.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':russian_roulette:' />
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  • taylormade4lifetaylormade4life Members Posts: 1,241 ✭✭
    MtlJeff wrote:


    MtlJeff wrote:

    MelloYello wrote:


    When companies are charging $250 for a single iron...I start to call BS. That's a fad they're making money on.



    Just how much performance difference are people observing between their driving iron and their standard forged CB 3-iron? I know how much difference I noticed--not that much. But it gives people something to spend they're money on.



    Personally, I'm kind of over them. For as little as I hit my longest irons I'd rather keep them matching the rest of my set.



    And yeah, you'd better build some forgiveness into that club-head if you're switching up shaft weight, shaft flex, swing weight, and other critical variables.




    Preach man....



    But careful because I've been saying that for a while and people get upset...



    Why you can't just buy a GI 3 iron for 1/2 the price I will never know




    For a 3-iron it works, but if you need sub 20* then there is no "GI" version. For the person you quoted... My 3I is my 212-215 "stock shot" and my 2I/DI is my "5 wood" and is a solid 225-228 carry. For me, it fits gaps better on long par 3s, or 2nd shots into a long par 4 or 5. Not to mention how great it is to have a mid flight 230-235 tee shot that rolls and is reliable.



    A lot of courses I play have 210-230 par 3s, holes with a lot of trouble in driver range, and some short and narrow par 4s where the UDI is perfect. I was sold when I hit a slightly choked down 2 iron into a 220 yard par 3, into the wind, and got it right into the front edge 15 feet from the hole. Prior to that, I would have to muscle a 3I or hope and pray my 5 wood got through the wind.



    I think there is some fad, but not for everyone..




    My Steelhead XR 3 iron is 18 degrees.




    My UDI is 17* works for me image/wink.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=';)' />
  • DNice26DNice26 Members Posts: 4,141 ✭✭
    Nope. Only reason DIs get love is because we are a week away from the open. This will fizzle out, as it does every year.

    No different than interest in low bounce 64 degree wedges leading into the master or us open.
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  • btmoneybtmoney hack Members Posts: 155 ✭✭
    Everything is cyclical...driving irons are back in (not to mention its July so its Open time)
  • buntabunta Members Posts: 540 ✭✭
    i got a driving iron so i dont have to practice hitting a hybrid.
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  • justincredible04justincredible04 Justincase1004 Posts: 2,204
    Meh, I like the idea of the driving iron as the only other club close is a hybrid. I have found that my miss with a hybrid can be left of left and get me in some real trouble. DI doesn’t really do that. However, to utilize a DI you gotta have speed. I got enough to get the job done but not enough consistency to loss speed on mishits. All my buddies ask me about driving irons and I just tell them they’re great but you gotta have speed.
  • Tex1986Tex1986 Posts: 1,771 ✭✭
    I don’t have one of the fancy “driving irons” they sell, but I bag a steel shafted G15 3iron. It hits the ball straight off the tee 210-220 yards.
  • JDogg206JDogg206 Members Posts: 265 ClubWRX
    Krt22 wrote:



    I think they are very useful for longer hitters. A lot of the courses i play are tree/house lined and hitting a driver gains me no real advantage. Hitting a 2 iron stays short of lots of bunkers and still gives me wedges and short irons in. They are lifesavers on new courses for me when you dont know the line for driver. No hitting thru a dogleg or into a hazard you didnt know about.



    I personally can hit a driving iron straighter than a hybrid or 5w so i dont see myself going back. Modern driving irons are pretty **** forgiving off a tee.




    They should have just locked the thread up after this. My graphite shafted 18* DI has been fantastic for my game. I'm pulling it on more and more holes as I get more and more confident with it




    Was going to say the exact same thing. My course is 6,800ish from the blue tees and I can get around with my 2 iron no problem. The more I see good results the more use it gets.
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  • Gary GutfulGary Gutful Members Posts: 1,167 ✭✭


    shiny sub-20º head with a fancy graphite shaft seems a total norm now. had always thought a 2 iron to be for TW on a rainy day St. Andrews.



    don't get me wrong pls. i love playing it. can never replace the feeling of a well hit driving iron tee shot (1 or 2 per 18 holes ratio). just wanna have a practical POV where it stands in the bag on my weekly 9-hole muni course where distance-gapping is an idealistic aka meaningless terminology. any shot longer than 200 yards will most likely hit the poor guy in the previous group (straight) or 2nd next fairways(slice).



    most o' used driving irons on BST don't seem to have been hit like more than 10 times, while every ad says 'bomber' or 'rocket launcher'. why would sell your rocket launcher for half a price?



    one thing for sure is that sure it makes me looking a better golfer in my bag. image/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />

    "is that a driving iron?"


    Most people will comment on whether you are better player based on the shots they see you hit. I'm yet to encounter anyone fooled by one's bag.



    Modern driving irons are more forgiving than old 1, 2 and 3 irons but to be effective they still require a degree of competence.
  • Gary GutfulGary Gutful Members Posts: 1,167 ✭✭
    Lip1337 wrote:


    I get a New driving Iron!



    Should i Play it with the same Specs as my Iron set?



    +1/2" and 1* up



    Or Standard Lie and normal 2 Iron Length?


    You should play it +3 inches and 7* flat.



    P.S. How the **** would we know?
  • Gary GutfulGary Gutful Members Posts: 1,167 ✭✭
    DNice26 wrote:


    Nope. Only reason DIs get love is because we are a week away from the open. This will fizzle out, as it does every year.

    No different than interest in low bounce 64 degree wedges leading into the master or us open.




    Can't comment on behalf of others but I base my club selection on what best suits my game, not what is fashionable. Is a driving iron even fashionable at the moment? Maybe to about 11 people on Golfwrx...The masses couldn't care less.
  • HoosierHacker89HoosierHacker89 Members Posts: 2,641 ✭✭
    I liked the idea and stole it from Jeff when he started a thread about it this spring. I played 3 iron off the tee for a while, but I don't generate the club head speed nor do I have the space in my bag to have an iron to utilize exclusively off the tee. I get more use out of a hybrid, so that's what I am putting in play.
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  • DNice26DNice26 Members Posts: 4,141 ✭✭
    DNice26 wrote:


    Nope. Only reason DIs get love is because we are a week away from the open. This will fizzle out, as it does every year.

    No different than interest in low bounce 64 degree wedges leading into the master or us open.




    Can't comment on behalf of others but I base my club selection on what best suits my game, not what is fashionable. Is a driving iron even fashionable at the moment? Maybe to about 11 people on Golfwrx...The masses couldn't care less.




    Same here. But the whole DI buzz is always at its peak around The Open timing.
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  • ValtielValtiel Konica-Minolta Bizhub Members Posts: 1,781 ✭✭
    edited Jul 12, 2018 #58
    Kinda baffling that the naysayers in here haven't seen the gap that the modern DI has filled that is the reason its been a popular item for the last few years (not just because the open is coming up). Lots of pros used to alternate 2i/5w depending on the course and these hotter faced perimeter weighted modern DIs have eliminated that trade off for many. The 2i was a strong tee club but was usually unforgiving and not great as a long approach option. The 5w was great as a long approach club but often too spinny off the tee for max distance. Modern DIs can do both now with minimal sacrifice. These things are stupid forgiving without any of the accuracy drawbacks that fairway woods can have (gear effects) and can be elevated and dropped down easier than a 2i/5w respectively. There has also been a strong focus and bringing out a larger variety of high quality hybrid shaft options. Anyone likening this to the mini driver or 64* wedge trend would do well to look at how few of those clubs ended up in pros bags compared to how many are sporting DIs these days. I was ALWAYS a fairway wood guy but if I didn't love my 4w so much it would be replaced with a 1i UDI.
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  • raynorfan1raynorfan1 Members Posts: 3,519 ✭✭
    Valtiel wrote:


    Kinda baffling that the naysayers in here haven't seen the gap that the modern DI has filled that is the reason its been a popular item for the last few years (not just because the open is coming up). Lots of pros used to alternate 2i/5w depending on the course and these hotter faced perimeter weighted modern DIs have eliminated that trade off for many. The 2i was a strong tee club but was usually unforgiving and not great as a long approach option. The 5w was great as a long approach club but often too spinny off the tee for max distance. Modern DIs can do both now with minimal sacrifice. These things are stupid forgiving without any of the accuracy drawbacks that fairway woods can have (gear effects) and can be elevated and dropped down easier than a 2i/5w respectively. There has also been a strong focus and bringing out a larger variety of high quality hybrid shaft options. Anyone likening this to the mini driver or 64* wedge trend would do well to look at how few of those clubs ended up in pros bags compared to how many are sporting DIs these days. I was ALWAYS a fairway wood guy but if I didn't love my 4w so much it would be replaced with a 1i UDI.




    It may just be that different clubs work well for different swings. My home course has a handful of short, tight par 4’s that yield big rewards for a well placed ~220 - 230 yard tee shot, so I was pumped to put a 2i in the bag.



    But after a bunch of rounds, I found that my average result really wasn’t materially different than it had been hitting 3i off the same tees. And I never really could get it to launch off a tight fairway. Ultimately, it just wasn’t that useful for me as an everyday club.



    If I were playing a links course in blustery conditions, I’d put it back in the back in a heartbeat. But it’s just not a versatile enough club for everyday use IMHO.
  • staysober for golfstaysober for golf Low carb guy Members Posts: 1,025 ClubWRX
    edited Jul 12, 2018 #60
    I tried a 18* callaway ut for a season and it was as long or longer at times than my 3 wood.



    Needless to say i delofted to a 21* and put the 17* hybrid back in and now those 2 can overlap at times.



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  • MelloYelloMelloYello Members Posts: 3,043 ✭✭

    MtlJeff wrote:


    MtlJeff wrote:

    MelloYello wrote:


    When companies are charging $250 for a single iron...I start to call BS. That's a fad they're making money on.



    Just how much performance difference are people observing between their driving iron and their standard forged CB 3-iron? I know how much difference I noticed--not that much. But it gives people something to spend they're money on.



    Personally, I'm kind of over them. For as little as I hit my longest irons I'd rather keep them matching the rest of my set.



    And yeah, you'd better build some forgiveness into that club-head if you're switching up shaft weight, shaft flex, swing weight, and other critical variables.




    Preach man....



    But careful because I've been saying that for a while and people get upset...



    Why you can't just buy a GI 3 iron for 1/2 the price I will never know




    For a 3-iron it works, but if you need sub 20* then there is no "GI" version. For the person you quoted... My 3I is my 212-215 "stock shot" and my 2I/DI is my "5 wood" and is a solid 225-228 carry. For me, it fits gaps better on long par 3s, or 2nd shots into a long par 4 or 5. Not to mention how great it is to have a mid flight 230-235 tee shot that rolls and is reliable.



    A lot of courses I play have 210-230 par 3s, holes with a lot of trouble in driver range, and some short and narrow par 4s where the UDI is perfect. I was sold when I hit a slightly choked down 2 iron into a 220 yard par 3, into the wind, and got it right into the front edge 15 feet from the hole. Prior to that, I would have to muscle a 3I or hope and pray my 5 wood got through the wind.



    I think there is some fad, but not for everyone..




    My Steelhead XR 3 iron is 18 degrees.




    My UDI is 17* works for me image/wink.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=';)' />






    If you're honestly seeing better results from a 170 iron than you would with a comparable hybrid, then go with what works.



    I've actually been pondering something Sergio Garcia recently revealed about his set make-up. Granted he uses a 5w rather than a 2i. Nevertheless, he said that when he backs down from hitting driver, he often opts for his 5w (not his 3w). He said he sees his 5w as a fairway finder and treats the 3w as a "go for it" on Par-5 holes.



    It makes me wonder if some amateurs could learn a lesson there. I have often been unhappy with the results of backing down to a 3w off the tee because the results aren't really any more "accurate" than with driver. However, the results with a 5w (or 2i) are often considerably more accurate and prone to stay in play.





    Then again, I hit the ball about the same distance you do but I don't really consider myself long enough for a 2i. If your course calls for it quite often, maybe it's worth it. I know in my case, I'm better off with a hybrid in that area because I use mine from the fairway just as often as I will off the tee.
    Driver: TaylorMade M3 (10.5)
    Hybrid: Tour Edge Exotics E8 (19)
    Irons: Titleist 716 CB (3-Pw)
    Wedges: Vokey SM6 52 (F) / 56 (F) / 60 (S)
    Putter: Nike Method Milled 003
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