OnOff Kuro 2017 vs Epon af503

kw5150xkw5150x Members Posts: 1
edited Aug 5, 2018 in Japanese and Non-US #1
Hey guys, big time lurker making first post. It has been a tough golf season for me so far and I am benching my Miura cb501 with recoil 80 f4 irons. I just havent been able to put the time in this year to play my best with them. I used store credit at 2nd Swing Mpls to get a set of PIng G700 with R steel (really need graphite, serious elbow issues dating back to when I was 19), they are super forgiving, launch crazy high (I struggle often with not high enough) but Im just not sure I could really game these for the long haul. First 2 rounds with them, missed quite a few left (usual miss is right). I demoed Epon af303 and af503 at the store - loved both, but never any used options of either available, and new Epons not in the budget. Getting ready to pull the trigger sooner than later on a new(new to me=used) JDM set. I was pretty sure it was going to be the Epon af503 (plenty of options on Rakuten) but the more I read, I also want thoughts on the OnOff Kuro's 2017. Looking for plenty forgiveness, at least plenty more than the cb501's (historically iron play holds me back a little, made it to a 4.5 2 years ago), as well as high launch. Would probably choose something that is not too much like my cb501's; I wont be selling them and can always go back when the time is right - no sense on having 2 similar sets. Thanks for the help!!!

PS - last 2 or 3 years have become absolute JDM junkie. Great stuff!

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  • TherealpatgilesTherealpatgiles Members Posts: 321 ✭✭
    I have the 503s. To me they are a great club. I've had one flier but other than that they have performed very well. Have them paired with modus 120s
    Taylormade m5 9 ad gp 7x
    Epon af901 19 modus 120
    Nike vapor pro combo 3 iron
    Epon af 503 4-w modus 120s
    Epon tour 50 55 60 modus w
    Epon i33 rose gold putter
  • ian-500ian-500 Members Posts: 702 ✭✭
    I've recently tested the Srixon Z745 6i vs Epon 503 6i, shafted with x100sl and 1150gh tour respectively. Both on the course and LM the Z745 won (in regards to feel/distance/launch), even though at address I thought that the 503 'looked' better (thinner top line/less offset).

    I'm about to test an OnOff Forged 2011 with Accra Tour 110i TiMesh against the other two. Winner stays in the bag.
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  • dunndunn Members Posts: 6,361 ✭✭
    edited Aug 13, 2018 #4
    I have 2017 kuro forged on off an af 302 epon



    On off much easier to hit and feel softer imo....I'll be selling both



    Never hit af500 series



    On off is a sleeper of a club.....soles bit wide for me but man they are as good as I've hit and not too thin if you need confidence



    Also owned srixon 745...on off.are bit easier to hit and feel better but 745 looks thinner so just depends
  • ian-500ian-500 Members Posts: 702 ✭✭
    OnOff wins in my testing. Epon launched waaaaaay too high even with x flex NS Pro 1150gh tour.
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    Taylormade R15 12.8* + Diamana R80x.
    Adams XTD 19* + Matrix White Tie x.
    Adams Pro 23 Tour Issue + Tour AD UT95x
    Adams DHY Pro 27 + Irod 105x.
    Adams XTD Forged Tour Issue 6i - GW + Recoil Prototype 125F5.
    Adams XTD Forged SW/LW + KBS Hi-Rev x.
    SeeMore SB1, Accra FX300, Garsen.
  • KamenKamen Kamen Members Posts: 531
    edited Aug 25, 2018 #6
    I've been gaming my 503s for a few years now and never had an issue. Also could never find anything better than them for myself fitted to MCIs. I recently got the Ping i500 though which are different but I felt was enough of an upgrade. I won't sell the 503s though just gonna rotate with them once in awhile. Spent too much on them originally with the crazy shafts to let them go haha



    The best thing about the 5s for me were he compact headshape and ridiculous forgiveness/ease of use.
    1)
    Ping G400 Max 9* Xtorsion Copper
    Titleist TS2 15 Fairway Tensei AV Blue 65
    Ping G400 7 Fairway Alta CB
    Cobra King F7 3/4 Hybrid Tour AD DI-85 Hybrid
    Ping i500 5-PW Project X LZ 5.5
    Ping Glide 2.0 Stealth 50SS, 54WS, 60ES
    Nike Method Origin B2-01

    2)
    Epon AF-503 5-PW Fujikura MCI 100
    EVNROLL ER8 Tour Mallet
  • TzoidTzoid Members Posts: 1,666 ✭✭
    I hope OnOff launch a 2019 Kuro Iron... I'm a big fan but not so much on the 2017 version.
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  • JMH1220JMH1220 Members Posts: 651 ✭✭
    Will OnOff be launching a 2019 Kuro iron?
  • 3_Putt_Par3_Putt_Par Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion man. Members Posts: 879 ✭✭
    If they do, it will be a late summer release around July.
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    18* Titleist 917F2 w/ Diamana BF 80
    24* Honma TW-U w/ Vizard IB 105
    5-PW Callaway Legacy Black (2011) w/ Modus3 125
    52/08 OnOff 2015 Kuro Forged Wedge Black Finish
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  • StonewalledStonewalled Members Posts: 1,511 ✭✭
    Don't rule out the OnOff 2011 forged models. I had read they were the more forgiving model of the last few renderings. I had a set briefly, super soft, 1/2 a club longer than some other sets I had. Kind of a perfect club, so as per usual I had to sell them. One of my more dumb moves last season.



    You could also combo a 5 6 7 of a more forgiving model and use your 501's in the scoring clubs. i200's are getting cheap and are fairly forgiving and arn't as prone to go left as the 700's.
  • ian-500ian-500 Members Posts: 702 ✭✭


    Don't rule out the OnOff 2011 forged models. I had read they were the more forgiving model of the last few renderings. I had a set briefly, super soft, 1/2 a club longer than some other sets I had. Kind of a perfect club, so as per usual I had to sell them. One of my more dumb moves last season.




    I had a recent Titleist fitting and the pro couldn't beat my OnOff 2011's with the 2018 TM-B's he gave me to try (distance/ball speed)......love it. These aren't going anywhere soon.
    Cobra F9 7.5* + Fuji Speeder Pro XLR8 63tx.
    Taylormade R15 12.8* + Diamana R80x.
    Adams XTD 19* + Matrix White Tie x.
    Adams Pro 23 Tour Issue + Tour AD UT95x
    Adams DHY Pro 27 + Irod 105x.
    Adams XTD Forged Tour Issue 6i - GW + Recoil Prototype 125F5.
    Adams XTD Forged SW/LW + KBS Hi-Rev x.
    SeeMore SB1, Accra FX300, Garsen.
  • StonewalledStonewalled Members Posts: 1,511 ✭✭
    ian-500 wrote:



    Don't rule out the OnOff 2011 forged models. I had read they were the more forgiving model of the last few renderings. I had a set briefly, super soft, 1/2 a club longer than some other sets I had. Kind of a perfect club, so as per usual I had to sell them. One of my more dumb moves last season.




    I had a recent Titleist fitting and the pro couldn't beat my OnOff 2011's with the 2018 TM-B's he gave me to try (distance/ball speed)......love it. These aren't going anywhere soon.
    That's pretty impressive, thought those TM-B's were supposed to be made for distance/ball speed. Lots have used them for driving irons etc. Saved yourself a ton of cash and you will have minimum thoughts of maybe I should be using something newer. I had a ton of irons and was on a Ping kick [i200's] so a few sets had to go. Don't think I will find another set as nice as those for the price I paid. Will have to keep my eyes and ears open. Hopefully we are not raising the prices of the 2011's with all this talk of grandeur.
  • 3_Putt_Par3_Putt_Par Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion man. Members Posts: 879 ✭✭
    JMH1220 wrote:


    Will OnOff be launching a 2019 Kuro iron?




    So I was at my local range and the OnOff rep was there for a demo day. I asked him about the possibility of a new Kuro line later this year and he said that he hasn't heard anything about it yet. Not sure if he was keeping it under wraps, or if he truly didn't know, but I'll keep asking their reps when I see them.
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    14.5* PRGR EGG HD w/ P9003
    18* Titleist 917F2 w/ Diamana BF 80
    24* Honma TW-U w/ Vizard IB 105
    5-PW Callaway Legacy Black (2011) w/ Modus3 125
    52/08 OnOff 2015 Kuro Forged Wedge Black Finish
    56/12 Ping Glide 2.0 Stealth w/ Modus3 125
    60/08 Fourteen RM 21 w/ Modus 125 Wedge
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