Are the classifieds a measure of golf equipment success?!?!

sneffsneff Members Posts: 180
As a regular viewer of the classified section here....I often see trends of certain drivers, irons or golf balls either up for sale or probably more importantly NOT for sale. Does it mean a club is beloved if it doesn't get listed a whole lot??



It seems normal when the new stuff comes out there will be some churn as I like most of us here want to try the newest toy! Here are a few recent observations;



1. Ping G max drivers and G400 and 700 irons rarely come up for sale

2. AP2 irons have been listed a lot...great irons but maybe too ambitious for high handicappers

3. TM drivers are always a hot item

4. Pro V1 and Pro VX will sell in a minute if priced right!

5. Will you split the shaft and head is king for driver sales:)

6. Man guys here play really stiff shafts!

7. Scotty Cameron sure makes a wide selection of putters

8. Do creative titles really create more interest than just listing what you have for sale?



Just some fun dialogue for a Friday!

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  • ltjacksonltjackson Northwest, FLMembers Posts: 538 ✭✭
    Maybe,



    I definitely think there are trends in the classifieds section but I don't believe this has anything to do with a certain manufacturers "success". Mostly because I feel like this forum is for the X% of obsessed golfers (guilty) and usually selling experiments that didn't work out for them. Not that I'm complaining, one mans trash is another mans treasure.
  • North ButteNorth Butte Members Posts: 10,071 ✭✭
    It's more reflective of trends in online/social-media hype and flash mobs than of the golf-club market as a whole.



    There's a few thousand guys spread all over the country who don't get excited by what the better players at their club or the other guys in their Satuday Nassau happen to buy and use. Instead their wish fulfillment life revolves around this an a couple other internet forums which form an influential "peer group". I'm one of those.



    So the stuff that shows up or not, sells quickly or not, on a forum Classifieds is a pretty good finger on the pulse of that group's whims and desires. Which is similar to but not the same as the larger market.
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  • RogerinNewZealandRogerinNewZealand Members Posts: 2,387 ✭✭
    Good topic, re AP2... i think that may be because close to 50% of golfers have said, lets give them a go!!

    They have had ten years and i think nave changed peoples perception of what is helpful vs say a SuperDuper Wide Sole Ping !!!!

    Ps i was an ISI and I3 guy.. neither were G wide!!!

    Re Scottys, i did research for 6 months before buying mine in March and bought the right one!!!
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    Ping [email protected] 10.5
    Tee 16.5
    Tm V Steel @ 18
     
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  • ago33ago33 Members Posts: 2,155 ✭✭
    If Titleist releases a set of irons, maybe 5,000 people buy them.



    No idea what the actual number is, just a guess.



    If 5 gets posted on BST, that’s .1% of sets



    Just swag numbers here but the percent is probably very low being flipped.

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  • tannyhobantannyhoban Members Posts: 1,847 ✭✭
    Yes. Successful equipment marketing by the OEM.
  • bkirkley09bkirkley09 Members Posts: 383 ✭✭
    I see G400 max for sale quite a bit in BST. Scotty has and does make some pretty sticks. Just a couple thoughts.

    PING G400 Max 9*, Graphite Design Tour AD BB 6X
    Callaway Epic Flash SZ 3W, Oban Devotion 7x
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    Ping I210 4-PW, DG 120 S300
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    Scotty Cameron Futura X5 Moto, 33"

  • Chuck905Chuck905 Members Posts: 1,181 ✭✭
    There’s also a lot of fakes on classifieds.



    For example, I would never buy a Scotty on those sites.
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  • frohboy33frohboy33 Members Posts: 12
    +1 on the stiff shafts!
  • BiggErnBiggErn Members Posts: 2,339 ✭✭
    Probably more of a measure of ego.
  • Frisco KidFrisco Kid Members Posts: 163 ✭✭
    edited Aug 10, 2018 #11
    i dunno...if a large volume of a certain club/irons were purchased new, wouldn’t it make sense there would be a higher number of those sold used?
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    Ping G30 5 Metal TFC419 R
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    Ping Glide 2.0 50SS, 54SS, 58SS CFS
    Ping G Sigma Tyne Putter
    Ping DLX Cart Bag
  • thejuicethejuice Members Posts: 2,066 ✭✭
    I just think more guys have found the power of direct selling vs trading into a store. Don’t put too much stock into what you see on the classifieds.
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  • bkirkley09bkirkley09 Members Posts: 383 ✭✭
    Chuck905 wrote:


    There’s also a lot of fakes on classifieds.



    For example, I would never buy a Scotty on those sites.




    You would not buy a Scotty off the BST? Interesting i would assume feedback and activity would be a good sign of quality?

    PING G400 Max 9*, Graphite Design Tour AD BB 6X
    Callaway Epic Flash SZ 3W, Oban Devotion 7x
    Callaway Epic Flash 5W, Smoke 80g 6.5
    Ping I210 4-PW, DG 120 S300
    Ping Glide Stealth, 50ss, 54ss, 58ss, AWT Wedge Flex
    Scotty Cameron Futura X5 Moto, 33"

  • BowlorgolfBowlorgolf Members Posts: 111 ✭✭
    I think if a fake Scotty showed up on the BST here it would get called out fairly quickly. Several ask about fake SC here from other sites. While I’m not a big SC fan ( there are one or two I would try) it has been a learning experience on what to watch and questions to ask.
  • ltjacksonltjackson Northwest, FLMembers Posts: 538 ✭✭
    Yeah you shouldn't worry about the validity of anything sold on the BST here. I've seen fakes called out within minutes and the post removed.



    EBay on the other hand... Run.
  • JasonPetermannJasonPetermann Members Posts: 394 ✭✭
    1. More likely: people looking for magic bullet for golf game. Doesn’t work, so they sell

    2. Still likely: people like trying new stuff. This is me.

    3. Advertising fools a lot of people
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  • whitembwhitemb Members Posts: 277 ✭✭
    There's a few thousand guys spread all over the country who don't get excited by what the better players at their club or the other guys in their Satuday Nassau happen to buy and use. Instead their wish fulfillment life revolves around this an a couple other internet forums which form an influential "peer group". I'm one of those.




    This is correct. And, in my experience, is also true for enthusiasts of watches, skis, trucks, etc.
  • Scottie68Scottie68 Members Posts: 803 ✭✭
    I wondered this as it relates to o-works putters.
  • dcl5dcl5dcl5dcl5 Members Posts: 232 ✭✭
    Chuck905 wrote:


    There's also a lot of fakes on classifieds.



    For example, I would never buy a Scotty on those sites.




    If you think there are a lot of fakes on this site, then you really should only buy new, retail and nothing else. There are always going to be bad seeds, but most people here on BST, especially those who have bought and sold alot and are in the forums alot, are pretty honest. As someone else said, usually fakes are sniffed out pretty quickly here.
  • sneffsneff Members Posts: 180
    sneff wrote:


    As a regular viewer of the classified section here....I often see trends of certain drivers, irons or golf balls either up for sale or probably more importantly NOT for sale. Does it mean a club is beloved if it doesn't get listed a whole lot??



    It seems normal when the new stuff comes out there will be some churn as I like most of us here want to try the newest toy! Here are a few recent observations;



    1. Ping G max drivers and G400 and 700 irons rarely come up for sale

    2. AP2 irons have been listed a lot...great irons but maybe too ambitious for high handicappers

    3. TM drivers are always a hot item

    4. Pro V1 and Pro VX will sell in a minute if priced right!

    5. Will you split the shaft and head is king for driver sales:)

    6. Man guys here play really stiff shafts!

    7. Scotty Cameron sure makes a wide selection of putters

    8. Do creative titles really create more interest than just listing what you have for sale?



    Just some fun dialogue for a Friday!




    A fair amount of I500s showing up....interesting



    Just got the 700s....they are great!
  • OknowsOknows Members Posts: 1,102 ✭✭
    This site and others like it, give people the ability to try the new stuff without the risk of losing a lot of money if it doesn't work out. Buy what's hot, try it out, if it's not for you, flip for a slight (if any) loss. Everybody wins.
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    Callaway Epic SZ 15* w/ Aldila Rogue Max 75
    Ping G 17.5 w/ Tour 80
    Ping i500 3 iron (17*) w/ DG 120 x100
    Titleist 816 H1 23*
    Callaway CF16 5-AW w/ DG 120 s300
    Ping Glide 2.0 54* w/ DG 120 s300
    Ping Glide 2.0 58* w/ DG 120 s300
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