Which one spins more?

Black

Full shots with short irons and wedges you will find the Black spins a fair amount more than the Red... However on close pitch and chips shots I have found the spin to be a little closer, which in my opinion is good, it makes it easier to get aggressive around the green.

"TaylorMade TP/Red LDP #71"

How'd you manage to get #71s? Can they be special ordered with any number?

I have read the data and talked with TM and many others. The red spins more off irons to me than the black. But the clack launches higher so in a way doesnt need as much spin. There is a whole debate about this that will never be answered correctly (to me) but the red is softer and lauches lower. Black is harder and launches higher.

"TaylorMade TP/Red LDP #71"

 

How'd you manage to get #71s? Can they be special ordered with any number?

Yes! They will print any number between 00 and 99 on there golf balls, the only hook is you have to order at least three dozen.

I have read the data and talked with TM and many others. The red spins more off irons to me than the black. But the clack launches higher so in a way doesn't need as much spin. There is a whole debate about this that will never be answered correctly (to me) but the red is softer and launches lower. Black is harder and launches higher.

TaylorMade claims there Red is for high spin players, meaning players that have more spin on the ball, and Black is for low spin players, meaning players that could use some additional spin.

However, this being said, my remarks are based on my own findings. The Red spins much less for me, which is good for my everyday play. Yet when I play hard or small greens I at times go the the Black to get more bite.

So, did the colors switch from the '07 TP Reds and Blacks to the Red LDP and Black LBP? I really enjoyed the '07 TP Reds, as I found that it was a very happy medium ground between the ProV and ProVx. Did they change this up to really mess me up?

I have read the data and talked with TM and many others. The red spins more off irons to me than the black. But the clack launches higher so in a way doesnt need as much spin. There is a whole debate about this that will never be answered correctly (to me) but the red is softer and lauches lower. Black is harder and launches higher.

The reason the TP Black LDP launches higher is that it spins more. Any ball on any given shot would come off the face at the same angle. What makes the ball launch higher or lower is the spin generated.

The TP Red LDP spins less than the TP Black LDP. That's why the Pro's that use the TP LDP balls use the Red when the greens are receptive and the Black whenthe green are less receptive.

Scott

So, did the colors switch from the '07 TP Reds and Blacks to the Red LDP and Black LBP? I really enjoyed the '07 TP Reds, as I found that it was a very happy medium ground between the ProV and ProVx. Did they change this up to really mess me up?

Yes, they are after you. :)

So, did the colors switch from the '07 TP Reds and Blacks to the Red LDP and Black LBP? I really enjoyed the '07 TP Reds, as I found that it was a very happy medium ground between the ProV and ProVx. Did they change this up to really mess me up?

Yup! Just when you thought you knew what was going on they up and changed the game on you... :)

I have read the data and talked with TM and many others. The red spins more off irons to me than the black. But the clack launches higher so in a way doesnt need as much spin. There is a whole debate about this that will never be answered correctly (to me) but the red is softer and lauches lower. Black is harder and launches higher.

The reason the TP Black LDP launches higher is that it spins more. Any ball on any given shot would come off the face at the same angle. What makes the ball launch higher or lower is the spin generated.

 

The TP Red LDP spins less than the TP Black LDP. That's why the Pro's that use the TP LDP balls use the Red when the greens are receptive and the Black whenthe green are less receptive.

 

Scott

Agreed....

The colors didnt change from last year....

The colors didnt change from last year....

2008 TP Red LDP spins less than 2008 TP Black LDP

2007 TP Blacks spins less than 2007 TP Reds

Yes, TM switched them.

"TaylorMade TP/Red LDP #71"

 

How'd you manage to get #71s? Can they be special ordered with any number?

 

Yes! They will print any number between 00 and 99 on there golf balls, the only hook is you have to order at least three dozen.

 

I have read the data and talked with TM and many others. The red spins more off irons to me than the black. But the clack launches higher so in a way doesn't need as much spin. There is a whole debate about this that will never be answered correctly (to me) but the red is softer and launches lower. Black is harder and launches higher.

 

TaylorMade claims there Red is for high spin players, meaning players that have more spin on the ball, and Black is for low spin players, meaning players that could use some additional spin.

 

However, this being said, my remarks are based on my own findings. The Red spins much less for me, which is good for my everyday play. Yet when I play hard or small greens I at times go the the Black to get more bite.

Where did you order the balls from??

"TaylorMade TP/Red LDP #71"

 

How'd you manage to get #71s? Can they be special ordered with any number?

 

Yes! They will print any number between 00 and 99 on there golf balls, the only hook is you have to order at least three dozen.

 

I have read the data and talked with TM and many others. The red spins more off irons to me than the black. But the clack launches higher so in a way doesn't need as much spin. There is a whole debate about this that will never be answered correctly (to me) but the red is softer and launches lower. Black is harder and launches higher.

 

TaylorMade claims there Red is for high spin players, meaning players that have more spin on the ball, and Black is for low spin players, meaning players that could use some additional spin.

 

However, this being said, my remarks are based on my own findings. The Red spins much less for me, which is good for my everyday play. Yet when I play hard or small greens I at times go the the Black to get more bite.

 

 

Where did you order the balls from??

I ordered them from the pro shop at the club I belong to, Paint Creek Country Club.

I'm sure you can order them from any golf or pro shop that carries TM balls.

The colors didnt change from last year....

 

2008 TP Red LDP spins less than 2008 TP Black LDP

 

2007 TP Blacks spins less than 2007 TP Reds

 

Yes, TM switched them.

You sure about that? According to sources I've read, the 2007 & 2008 Blacks spin more than the same year Reds.

I am really confused now.

Go to TaylorMades website...

They are specific, Red is for players that have a lot of spin, Black is for players that need more spin. This means Black spins more than Red, at least the 2008 LDP balls.

There's always this . . .

GolfWRX: What improvements were made in the 2008 TP balls over the 2007 ones?

 

Dean Snell: LDP Technology, Low Drag Performance is new in both golf balls. It’s a new 360 dimple pattern that again helps players on miss-hits, helps the ball stay in the air longer on lower spinning driver shots which is an advantage for a lot of people. I think if you look back at the TP Red and TP Black, we spoke about “patent minefields.” Because of patents, those balls became very close to each other with respect to feel, spin, and performance. This year we’re really separated them out. We separated Red and Black out considerably. On Tour last year with all our players, it was about a 50/50 split. I think if you listen to what a lot of them said the biggest challenge the highest spinning players have to get to back pins with 8 irons, 9 irons, pitching wedges, and sand wedges – full short iron shots. So we worked pretty hard to create the TP Red as the new four piece ball and the inside mantle layer is very, very soft. So the feel of the Red is much softer than it used to be. We’ve also been able to lower the full iron spin by using this soft mantle layer. So the new Red is now a lower spinning full iron shot. So if players are actually spinning the ball back too much you definitely want to give the Red a try. The Black has been held to the spin rate of a Pro V1, Pro V1X so players looking for a little extra spin on the irons, its TP Black. For players that have trouble controlling spin because it’s too much, it’s TP Red. Big differences between the two this year in feel and short game spin. When you get closer to the green, where the cover and mantle work together, that’s where they get similar. Red is going to be a little softer, have a nice little check on it and Black’s going to be similar to what Pro V1X is.

http://www.golfwrx.com/BagChatter/2008/04/...aylormade-golf/