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  • OakLawnGolfProOakLawnGolfPro Advanced Members Posts: 147
    As someone that was a +3 back in college, and now play to about a 2, I can tell you I hit the ball infinitely better now than I did then. But now I play mostly with buddies where I fire at pins, take riskier lines because I’m not playing competitively anymore. But my wedge game was impeccable, short game was deadly (felt like I chipped in once a round) and I was very confident in my putter.



    I didn’t hit it in trouble, but I definitely clanked it around, it was a running hole back then. Long story short, you’re search for the perfect swing will have a slower impact, I talk with my students now, and always ask if they truly understand how good a pros short game is. Because if you’re gonna get there that is easily the most important part.
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  • ObeeObee ClubWRX Charter Members Posts: 3,606 ClubWRX

    rich s wrote:


    The thing that separates us from the pro's is everything. Like no joke, everything. Driver-putter...everything. No question you can improve on Skytrak. Having goals is a good thing. Realistic goals are even better. Let me tell you your future. One word, frustration. To the point you quit the game for a while. Until you can get your mind wrapped around how good a +3 actually is at everything (and how bad you are currently), you are just going to get bitter and frustrated. Oh and you will probably start getting cats as pets. Lots and lots of cats.




    I stumbled upon this thread on accident a few weeks back. Took me some time to read thru the original thread and then this one ... incredibly entertaining! But also really sad. A lot of people started off trying to steer this guy in the right direction, only to give up.



    Stunted: the comment from Rich S is probably the truest thing I have read. Question - Do you actually know any other golfers playing to a +3? I don't mean that as an insult; I am genuinely asking.



    If you don't, then go find one or two ... and then go play a couple rounds with them (if they will let you join). Even if you just walk behind them, or carry their clubs for free, or ride in a cart and don't touch your clubs ... just watch them play an entire round. It should be eye-opening and will likely change your perspective.



    FWIW - my brother is very good at golf (like - he plays on Tour and has kept his card for 7+ years now. He's not a superstar or featured in TV Commercials, but you would know his name and he's proven he belongs on that level. He doesn't carry a handicap ... but I asked him last night, and if he had to guess, he said maybe a +6?). I only share that to add credibility to the perspective/insight I offer you: +3 is not something that most of us can ever achieve. Even my brother says that +3 has to be insanely good in all phases of the game. And the reality / crappy truth is this: 99% of us can never get to +3 ... even if we REALLY REALLY REALLY wanted to.



    More importantly ... most of us don't actually want to (and I don't think you do either). Why??? ... Because it is an enormous commitment. And I don't mean "a few hours each evening" commitment. Again, using my own brother as an example here, but I can't count how many holidays/birthdays/family-events that he had to miss because he was practicing, or traveling to a tournament, or playing an event. To get to that level, golf is not a game you play ... it becomes who you are. The reality is that maintaining that level of consistent play likely means quitting your job, neglecting your family, and forgoing a social life. Oh - and you still have to be insanely talented and dedicated to finely tuning the tiniest of details in your game.



    My brother's advice to you: play as many rounds of golf as you can each week ... and make sure that every one of them is for meaningful stakes (money, or something that matters). If you're not on the course, live on and around the putting green. Putt until your back hurts from bending, and then head back to the course for another 9 holes.



    My advice to you: get super realistic about what a +3 means ... and maybe consider tweaking your goals to reflect a better golf/life balance ... and not put so much pressure on yourself to be something that so few of us can actually ever become (if we even wanted to). I'm a 15 handicap. I love golf. But I love so many other things in life as well. Having seen what it takes to a plus-handicap, I'm happier teeing it up with my buddies (and my brother too) whenever I can ... and enjoying every minute of it. But I don't want to live out there.



    And yeah, I totally wish I could stick a 9-iron to within 15 feet from 170 yards ... every time. But I don't have the talent that most +3 guys have ... and I know for a fact that I don't want to put in the work they do. I'd much rather grab a beer after a round ... and not head back to the practice green to work on those 15 footers. :-)



    Best of luck to you Stunted ... and please get off the range!




    Much of what you say here is on the money. However....



    I took up golf when I was 20. I was a baseball player in college, and a good one. I was good enough to play A-ball for sure, maybe even AA. I hurt my shoulder my sophomore year in college and decided to take up golf. I had played maybe 10 or 20 times in high school, and I loved it. My thinking was: "****, I was good enough to play professional baseball, why not do it in golf. See how good I can get."



    So that's what I did. Like the initial poster, my goal was to get deep into plus territory.



    I've told this story many times on this board, so I won't bore you with the details, but it took me about four years to get into plus territory and about 5 or 6(?) to get to my low index ever, +3.5. I never turned professional because I had a wife and kids and a full time job, and I knew I was never going to be good enough to make a living. But I got there (and stayed there for quite some time) and have the tournament scores to prove it.



    Bottom line, I'm a nobody with some solid hand-eye coordination and an understanding of how the body needs to move to swing a club at a target (baseball, golf), and I figured it out for myself. But it all started with that initial goal. Without "daring to care" about my game and getting into serious plus territory, it would have never happened.



    So for anyone who has a solid athletic background and has proven that they can make center-face contact very quickly upon taking up the game, I say go for it. Challenge yourself. Put it out there and DO IT.



    What else are you going to do? Work more?



    Golf is the single greatest game ever. Embrace it and see how good you can get.



    That's my advice to anyone who has any kind of innate ability.
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  • CrazyCoolieCrazyCoolie Members Posts: 33 ✭✭
    I want to thank the forums for this gem. I also commend the balls of this young man for talking all that trash and then posting that swing video.
  • Forged4everForged4ever Putting is 98%+ Mental..... ClubWRX Charter Members Posts: 15,501 ClubWRX
    edited March 12
    pinhigh27 wrote:


    How about scratch first and then +3. +3 TAKES A LOT OF MAINTENANCE. LIKE PLAY OR PRACTICE 5x/WEEK+ USUALLY.
    Yep, spot on, as a +2.8, I played 4-5 competitive money games a week and was on the short game area/putting green, 6-7 days a week, and when it rained, I was at my range(I sold shortly after I got sick) hitting from a covered bay. I never missed a day my last year in the game from April 1st though mid-October where I wasn’t either Playing for money, Playing in a tourney, or at the short game area and/or putting green.



    Granted, I was single, however Nathan Smith(+4.2) was/is married with a family and he spent every bit the time that I did both on the line and on the course, no less than 6-7 days/week.



    Nathan didn’t sniff the cut line in the three Nationwide/Web.com events that he received a Sponsor’s Exemption into, nor did he ever make the cut at his four Masters, with his best showing being two strokes outside the line.



    Hats off to ya Bro and all the Best in your quest and journey!!



    Fairways & Greens 4ever My Friend⛳️

    RP
    In the end, only three things matter~ <br /><br />How much that you loved...<br /><br />How mightily that you lived...<br /><br />How gracefully that you accepted both victory & defeat...<br /><br /><br /><br />GHIN: Beefeater 24
  • Forged4everForged4ever Putting is 98%+ Mental..... ClubWRX Charter Members Posts: 15,501 ClubWRX
    edited March 13

    rich s wrote:


    The thing that separates us from the pro's is everything. Like no joke, everything. Driver-putter...everything. No question you can improve on Skytrak. Having goals is a good thing. Realistic goals are even better. Let me tell you your future. One word, frustration. To the point you quit the game for a while. Until you can get your mind wrapped around how good a +3 actually is at everything (and how bad you are currently), you are just going to get bitter and frustrated. Oh and you will probably start getting cats as pets. Lots and lots of cats.




    I stumbled upon this thread on accident a few weeks back. Took me some time to read thru the original thread and then this one ... incredibly entertaining! But also really sad. A lot of people started off trying to steer this guy in the right direction, only to give up.



    Stunted: the comment from Rich S is probably the truest thing I have read. Question - Do you actually know any other golfers playing to a +3? I don't mean that as an insult; I am genuinely asking.



    If you don't, then go find one or two ... and then go play a couple rounds with them (if they will let you join). Even if you just walk behind them, or carry their clubs for free, or ride in a cart and don't touch your clubs ... just watch them play an entire round. It should be eye-opening and will likely change your perspective.



    FWIW - my brother is very good at golf (like - he plays on Tour and has kept his card for 7+ years now. He's not a superstar or featured in TV Commercials, but you would know his name and he's proven he belongs on that level. He doesn't carry a handicap ... but I asked him last night, and if he had to guess, he said maybe a +6?). I only share that to add credibility to the perspective/insight I offer you: +3 is not something that most of us can ever achieve. Even my brother says that +3 has to be insanely good in all phases of the game. And the reality / crappy truth is this: 99% of us can never get to +3 ... even if we REALLY REALLY REALLY wanted to.



    More importantly ... most of us don't actually want to (and I don't think you do either). Why??? ... Because it is an enormous commitment. And I don't mean "a few hours each evening" commitment. Again, using my own brother as an example here, but I can't count how many holidays/birthdays/family-events that he had to miss because he was practicing, or traveling to a tournament, or playing an event. To get to that level, golf is not a game you play ... it becomes who you are. The reality is that maintaining that level of consistent play likely means quitting your job, neglecting your family, and forgoing a social life. Oh - and you still have to be insanely talented and dedicated to finely tuning the tiniest of details in your game.



    My brother's advice to you: play as many rounds of golf as you can each week ... and make sure that every one of them is for meaningful stakes (money, or something that matters). If you're not on the course, live on and around the putting green. Putt until your back hurts from bending, and then head back to the course for another 9 holes.



    My advice to you: get super realistic about what a +3 means ... and maybe consider tweaking your goals to reflect a better golf/life balance ... and not put so much pressure on yourself to be something that so few of us can actually ever become (if we even wanted to). I'm a 15 handicap. I love golf. But I love so many other things in life as well. Having seen what it takes to a plus-handicap, I'm happier teeing it up with my buddies (and my brother too) whenever I can ... and enjoying every minute of it. But I don't want to live out there.



    And yeah, I totally wish I could stick a 9-iron to within 15 feet from 170 yards ... every time. But I don't have the talent that most +3 guys have ... and I know for a fact that I don't want to put in the work they do. I'd much rather grab a beer after a round ... and not head back to the practice green to work on those 15 footers. :-)



    Best of luck to you Stunted ... and please get off the range!
    THIS is absolutely the finest post that I have read on this subject since coming on the board. Prior to this, that honor for such a post belonged to Isaac, who, like Ty the dog’s owner(WTF, I can’t remeber your UN, much less use it in a post😉), chased the dream, beating the ball for more hours in a day than all but the busiest surgeon’s worked, slept 4-6 guys to a room traveling across the country playing the satellites and minis, and he hit till his hands bled.



    Oh, and last year across a 6700+ track, he threw down a 62 Playin for money.



    Unlike Ty the dog’s owner, or his owner’ Bro, or whomeverTF he is, Isaac never made the Show, but he’s still throwin low 60’s from 6700+ yards.



    Then ya got Patrick Burke on the board, who spent just shy of a decade in the Show, until a bad shoulder injury, from which he has never recovered, ended his career.



    Just like that~



    💥BOOM💥



    OVER!!



    Anyhoo, amazing spot on post Ty’s owner!!!



    You nailed it Brother~



    Oh yea, this is my rescue mutt named Hunter(top 2 pics), that we call our “toy” Rottie as he’s less than half the size of my Big Dog, Brandy(bottom 2 pics)😉



    They’re idiots, like their owner, but they love Madison and Brandy lays behind her when she has evening lessons, lol



    If ya have the time, please post more👊



    All the Best,

    RP
    Post edited by Unknown User on
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  • Forged4everForged4ever Putting is 98%+ Mental..... ClubWRX Charter Members Posts: 15,501 ClubWRX
    edited March 12
    bogeypro wrote:


    It’s s long way from 3 to +3.
    If he does it, it’ll be the longest six strokes of his life😉



    Great post BP!!



    Cheers🍻

    RP
    In the end, only three things matter~ <br /><br />How much that you loved...<br /><br />How mightily that you lived...<br /><br />How gracefully that you accepted both victory & defeat...<br /><br /><br /><br />GHIN: Beefeater 24
  • Forged4everForged4ever Putting is 98%+ Mental..... ClubWRX Charter Members Posts: 15,501 ClubWRX
    edited March 12
    jj9000 wrote:


    You received some really, really, good suggestions in your other thread.



    Your issue is that you don't want to listen to suggestions of instructors and players that have been there and done that. ****, you even have one guy willing to bet you won't make it to scratch.
    THIS is what bothers me the most~



    I have read the whole spiel and he’s had the cream of the crop in the golfing world, forget this, the largest board on earth, and I can’t for the life of me figure out if it intellectual ignorance, infantile immaturity or just plain moronic mindlessness, however I’m astounded at the “talent” that has taken the time to offer incredibly valuable pearls and insight and here is someone that hasn’t accomplished s***, and they’re rationalizing and dropping dime store cliches instead of looking at and taking in the words of wisdom.



    I’m speaking to those that have “been there done that,” along with the Teachers.



    I just hope that the right individual sees these two threads, reads through them and mines the gold that is within these pages and uses it to take their game to the next level!!



    Oh, one word~



    💥MENTAL💥



    Great points and post JJ👊



    Have a great season🍻

    RP
    Post edited by Unknown User on
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  • gatorMDgatorMD Hacker-in-Chief ClubWRX Charter Members Posts: 4,111 ClubWRX
    everytime i think i am going to get to + territory i shoot a 84 and want to quit lol.
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  • Forged4everForged4ever Putting is 98%+ Mental..... ClubWRX Charter Members Posts: 15,501 ClubWRX
    edited March 12
    MiamiBall wrote:

    Hawkeye77 wrote:


    LOL, just reread the trolling thread starter here and was trying to figure out what disease or conditon the OP has




    I think he has a lot of narcissistic characteristics -- he's basically feeding off these legitimately good golfers who are in here entertaining his nonsense
    Yea, most of those at the top of their fields, whether it be business or athletics, a Fortune 10 CEO or Top-10 Golfer in the world, a Transplant Surgeon or Michael, a million dollar model or Tiger, doesn’t matter, as studies have shown that one, at the very top, in the fiercest competitive environment, whether it be that transplant surgeon walking into an OR theatre, A Navy SEAL walking into the black of night, Tiger walking onto the first tee or Natalie Ogg walking onto a runway, that having a healthy dose of narcissistic behavioral characteristics is extremely beneficial, especially when those who do not possess these traits begin to doubt themselves, even the slightest, and at the highest levels, against the best of the best, whether it be millions of dollars on the line, or one’s or others’ lives on the line, I want the guy or gal that not only has zero doubt about their ability to perform, while others are programmed to survive these individuals are programmed to thrive.



    Narcissistic behavioral trates are usually borne out of successful experience(s), and at least on the golf course, this kid has none. I’ve always said that the Internet and the virtual world is where mice can play “man” and children can play “adult.”



    He hasn’t even competed in a legitimate tourney for chrissakes😂😂



    Narcissist???



    No friggin way, lol



    He hasn’t achieved anything to have that type of personality IN THE REAL WORLD!!



    Delusional🤪???



    Now, ya got my attention, lol



    Stay well Gents🍻

    RP
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  • BB28403BB28403 Advanced Members Posts: 2,723
    edited March 12
    These + guys would get caught if they sandbagged right ?



    Are they more scrutinized?
  • ObeeObee ClubWRX Charter Members Posts: 3,606 ClubWRX
    BB28403 wrote:


    These + guys would get caught if they sandbagged right ?



    Are they more scrutinized?




    Definitely not. No one wants to accuse a +1.7 of sandbagging.
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  • BB28403BB28403 Advanced Members Posts: 2,723
    edited March 12
    Obee wrote:
    BB28403 wrote:


    These + guys would get caught if they sandbagged right ?



    Are they more scrutinized?




    Definitely not. No one wants to accuse a +1.7 of sandbagging.




    Sweet, so I have news...



    Kidding. At some point most of us WRXers families must wonder why we are not +’s yet
  • Forged4everForged4ever Putting is 98%+ Mental..... ClubWRX Charter Members Posts: 15,501 ClubWRX
    edited March 13
    BB28403 wrote:


    Are they more scrutinized?
    Yes, if you mean are they in the limelight more, absolutely~



    If you’re speaking of sandbagging, then it’s as Obes stated, no



    Cheers🍻

    RP
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  • MountainGoatMountainGoat Advanced Members Posts: 1,496 ✭✭
    +3 is no big deal. Heck, I was +3 after three holes yesterday. It was easy. image/taunt.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':taunt:' />
  • Krt22Krt22 Advanced Members Posts: 6,031 ✭✭
    Obee wrote:

    BB28403 wrote:


    These + guys would get caught if they sandbagged right ?



    Are they more scrutinized?




    Definitely not. No one wants to accuse a +1.7 of sandbagging.




    Strange question in the first place. In what world do a multitude of + guys enter a net event, such that the possibility of sandbagging even comes into question?
  • TMfan54TMfan54 Advanced Members Posts: 2,242 ✭✭
    Krt22 wrote:

    Obee wrote:

    BB28403 wrote:


    These + guys would get caught if they sandbagged right ?



    Are they more scrutinized?




    Definitely not. No one wants to accuse a +1.7 of sandbagging.




    Strange question in the first place. In what world do a multitude of + guys enter a net event, such that the possibility of sandbagging even comes into question?




    Agreed. Feel like + handicaps only ever are accused of vanity handicaps.
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  • Forged4everForged4ever Putting is 98%+ Mental..... ClubWRX Charter Members Posts: 15,501 ClubWRX
    edited March 13
    TMfan54 wrote:

    Krt22 wrote:

    Obee wrote:

    BB28403 wrote:


    These + guys would get caught if they sandbagged right ?



    Are they more scrutinized?




    Definitely not. No one wants to accuse a +1.7 of sandbagging.




    Strange question in the first place. In what world do a multitude of + guys enter a net event, such that the possibility of sandbagging even comes into question?




    Agreed. Feel like + handicaps only ever are accused of vanity handicaps.
    True, though if I ever see Phil’s on the board as “+2.6,” I’m callin bullsh**😜



    Cheers🍻

    RP
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  • Forged4everForged4ever Putting is 98%+ Mental..... ClubWRX Charter Members Posts: 15,501 ClubWRX
    edited March 13
    Obee wrote:


    Definitely not. No one wants to accuse a +1.7 of sandbagging.
    Unless of course he carries a Tour card for his day job😜



    Stay well Brother👊



    All the Best,

    Richard
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  • ObeeObee ClubWRX Charter Members Posts: 3,606 ClubWRX
    edited March 13
    Krt22 wrote:

    Obee wrote:

    BB28403 wrote:


    These + guys would get caught if they sandbagged right ?



    Are they more scrutinized?




    Definitely not. No one wants to accuse a +1.7 of sandbagging.




    Strange question in the first place. In what world do a multitude of + guys enter a net event, such that the possibility of sandbagging even comes into question?




    There are lot of high-level gross/net events out there at big clubs. In addition, there is almost always significant Multi-way team action (many of those bets, net) at these types of events for $$$.
    Post edited by Unknown User on
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  • Forged4everForged4ever Putting is 98%+ Mental..... ClubWRX Charter Members Posts: 15,501 ClubWRX
    Obee wrote:

    Krt22 wrote:

    Obee wrote:

    BB28403 wrote:


    These + guys would get caught if they sandbagged right ?



    Are they more scrutinized?




    Definitely not. No one wants to accuse a +1.7 of sandbagging.




    Strange question in the first place. In what world do a multitude of + guys enter a net event, such that the possibility of sandbagging even comes into question?




    THERE ARE A LOT of high-level gross/net events out there at big clubs. In addition, there is almost always significant Multi-way team action (many of those bets, net) at these types of events for $$$.
    A lot!!!



    Cheers🍻

    RP
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  • bogeyprobogeypro The Original Bogeypro ClubWRX Charter Members Posts: 3,132 ClubWRX
    I’m a +2.5. My best rounds are very boring. Like, put you to sleep boring. Fairways and greens, make a few putts. If I miss a green, it’s chip and putt. Boring. I think the biggest falsehood is thinking that + cappers all shoot 61 and have birdies flying. Most of my usual playing partners are pros or other good amateurs. Watching us play a round would probably bore you to tears (except for the crude jokes and constant harassment and s*** talking from each other).



    None of us sit on the range for hours beating balls. We usually go practice something very specific on the range... a particular move or feel. Maybe hit one club that has been giving issues or one type of shot. Same with short game and putting. We usually play at least 9 holes most days. Most of us have jobs that allow us the time to practice fir a couple hours every day. Practice something every day and play... that’s the key. You don’t have to hit putts until your back breaks or pound balls till your hands bleed, but you do have to have specific practice every day and get on the course.
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  • bogeyprobogeypro The Original Bogeypro ClubWRX Charter Members Posts: 3,132 ClubWRX
    edited March 16

    rich s wrote:


    The thing that separates us from the pro's is everything. Like no joke, everything. Driver-putter...everything. No question you can improve on Skytrak. Having goals is a good thing. Realistic goals are even better. Let me tell you your future. One word, frustration. To the point you quit the game for a while. Until you can get your mind wrapped around how good a +3 actually is at everything (and how bad you are currently), you are just going to get bitter and frustrated. Oh and you will probably start getting cats as pets. Lots and lots of cats.




    I stumbled upon this thread on accident a few weeks back. Took me some time to read thru the original thread and then this one ... incredibly entertaining! But also really sad. A lot of people started off trying to steer this guy in the right direction, only to give up.



    Stunted: the comment from Rich S is probably the truest thing I have read. Question - Do you actually know any other golfers playing to a +3? I don't mean that as an insult; I am genuinely asking.



    If you don't, then go find one or two ... and then go play a couple rounds with them (if they will let you join). Even if you just walk behind them, or carry their clubs for free, or ride in a cart and don't touch your clubs ... just watch them play an entire round. It should be eye-opening and will likely change your perspective.



    FWIW - my brother is very good at golf (like - he plays on Tour and has kept his card for 7+ years now. He's not a superstar or featured in TV Commercials, but you would know his name and he's proven he belongs on that level. He doesn't carry a handicap ... but I asked him last night, and if he had to guess, he said maybe a +6?). I only share that to add credibility to the perspective/insight I offer you: +3 is not something that most of us can ever achieve. Even my brother says that +3 has to be insanely good in all phases of the game. And the reality / crappy truth is this: 99% of us can never get to +3 ... even if we REALLY REALLY REALLY wanted to.



    More importantly ... most of us don't actually want to (and I don't think you do either). Why??? ... Because it is an enormous commitment. And I don't mean "a few hours each evening" commitment. Again, using my own brother as an example here, but I can't count how many holidays/birthdays/family-events that he had to miss because he was practicing, or traveling to a tournament, or playing an event. To get to that level, golf is not a game you play ... it becomes who you are. The reality is that maintaining that level of consistent play likely means quitting your job, neglecting your family, and forgoing a social life. Oh - and you still have to be insanely talented and dedicated to finely tuning the tiniest of details in your game.



    My brother's advice to you: play as many rounds of golf as you can each week ... and make sure that every one of them is for meaningful stakes (money, or something that matters). If you're not on the course, live on and around the putting green. Putt until your back hurts from bending, and then head back to the course for another 9 holes.



    My advice to you: get super realistic about what a +3 means ... and maybe consider tweaking your goals to reflect a better golf/life balance ... and not put so much pressure on yourself to be something that so few of us can actually ever become (if we even wanted to). I'm a 15 handicap. I love golf. But I love so many other things in life as well. Having seen what it takes to a plus-handicap, I'm happier teeing it up with my buddies (and my brother too) whenever I can ... and enjoying every minute of it. But I don't want to live out there.



    And yeah, I totally wish I could stick a 9-iron to within 15 feet from 170 yards ... every time. But I don't have the talent that most +3 guys have ... and I know for a fact that I don't want to put in the work they do. I'd much rather grab a beer after a round ... and not head back to the practice green to work on those 15 footers. :-)



    Best of luck to you Stunted ... and please get off the range!




    I don’t agree. It is NOT about practicing till your back hurts and hands bleed then practice more. It’s about knowing how to practice and maximizing your time. Im a +2.5 and my usual groups consist of several pros and top ams in the state. None of them practice till they bleed. They practice a little every day and play at least 9 most days. Luckily, the ams have jobs that allow the practice time.



    One other falicy is thinking that + handicaps shoot 61 every day and have birdies and eagles every hole. Most low scores are very boring... fairways greens and make putts you should make. It’s course management and minimizing big numbers while taking advantage of easy opportunities.
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  • YMarkYMark Advanced Members Posts: 1,530 ✭✭
    I believe Stunted has left the building.... maybe he's on the course.
    Mark
    Havin fun in the AZ sun
  • chigolfer1chigolfer1 Advanced Members Posts: 755 ✭✭
    Coincidentally, this is my goal as well. image/derisive.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':derisive:' />
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