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More forgiving, Apex Pro or AP2?


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In my experience they are very similar in terms of forgiveness, although I think the Apex Pros felt softer and were 1/2 club longer in terms of distance.

Driver (10):  Titleist TSR3 (Tour AD DI 6s)
3 Wood (16.5):  Titleist TSR2 (Tour AD DI 7s)
Hybrid (19):  Titleist TSi2 (Tour AD DI 85s)
Hybrid (22):  Titleist TSi2 (Tour AD DI 85s)
Irons (5-G):  Titleist T100S (TT Elevate Tour)
Wedges:  54/58:  Vokey SM9 (PX LZ 6.0 -- Onyx)
Putter:  Toulon Las Vegas 2022

 

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In my experience they are very similar in terms of forgiveness, although I think the Apex Pros felt softer and were 1/2 club longer in terms of distance.
I had a similar experience with the two. I ended going with the Apex Pros.

Driver: Cobra Aerojet
3 wood: Titleist TSR2

7 wood: Ping G430 max

Utility iron: Callaway Apex ut

4 Hybrid: Callaway Paradym
Irons: Titleist T100 4-pw 
Wedges: Vokey sm9 50*, 54*, 60*
Putters: TaylorMade Spider X

Odyssey AI-ONE 7S

Ball: Titleist ProV1x

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I went from the Apex Pros to a 716 CB/MB combo. The CBs were even softer than the Apex Pros but spun more and again I lost a bit of distance. Loved them though! AP2s always felt heavy and clunky to me. Never got along with them.

Driver (10):  Titleist TSR3 (Tour AD DI 6s)
3 Wood (16.5):  Titleist TSR2 (Tour AD DI 7s)
Hybrid (19):  Titleist TSi2 (Tour AD DI 85s)
Hybrid (22):  Titleist TSi2 (Tour AD DI 85s)
Irons (5-G):  Titleist T100S (TT Elevate Tour)
Wedges:  54/58:  Vokey SM9 (PX LZ 6.0 -- Onyx)
Putter:  Toulon Las Vegas 2022

 

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In my experience they are very similar in terms of forgiveness, although I think the Apex Pros felt softer and were 1/2 club longer in terms of distance.

I would definitely agree with this, I've played them both. Currently playing 718 AP2s something about them I just like more than the Apex Pro. They look better also.

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I've played the latest version of the Apex Pros and the 714 AP2s. I will echo what others have said here already. The Pros feel better, offer more distance, and launch and peak lower than the AP2.

 

To me the two were very close in size with the Pros having less offset than the AP2. Had the AP2s spun less I could have kept them and been very happy with them. However, I lost a half to a whole club in distance with them. In the wind I struggled to knock off spin and keep the ball down; a place where the Pros shine. The Pros offer more work-ability than the AP2, IMO.

 

I know that may sound counter-intuitive since spin is required to draw of fade the ball. But the Pros offered me enough spin to do that, without the fear of terrible hooks or slices rather than soft draws or fades.

PXG Black Ops 10.5* - Ventus Velocore Blue TR 6X

PXG Gen 5 0311 15* - Aldila Tour Blue 75X

PXG  Gen 5 0311 19* - Aldila Tour Blue 85X

PXG 0311T Gen 5 4-P - DG120 X100

Titleist Vokey SM9 50*, 56*, 60* - DGTI S400

PXG Bat Attack H

Chrome Soft/Vice Pro Lime
 

 

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The past two years ive played S55's MP59's Miura CB57 Miura CB 501's and now 716 AP2's.

Best of the bunch were S55's CB501 and AP2's. I loved the Miura CB501 and still have and play them in summer when the swing is grooved, but AP2's take the cake. So forgiving. Not a huge distance iron as miuras when flushed are 1/2 club longer but AP2 are just super solid for me. Feel marshmallow when middled and can work them both ways.

I never really noticed the offset of the AP2's after coming from the Miuras. Ap2 with the correct shafts are the way to go and can be found second hand now for pretty cheap.

Ping G410+ 10.5 GD ADIZ 7TX
TM OO Mini driver 13.5  GD Tour ADDI 7X
Ping Anser 20* GD Tour ADDI 95X
Miura CB57'S Raw 4-9 TT DG TI X100
Titleist TI Raw SM7 Vokey 48/52 TI DG S400 Black

Titleist TI Raw SM6 Vokey 56/61 TI DG S400 Black 
Lajosi LP7 Stability shaft
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Our club pros are Callaway guys, and I have hit the Apex Pros both at the course and during demo days. I have hit the AP2 (different models) at both demo days and Titleist rep visits or Titleist Thursday.

 

The Apex Pros and Pro 16s always flew better for me than the AP2 versions. I think the Recoil 95 shafts really helped in the Apex variants. For Titleist, the AP1 is about the only iron I have felt comfortable with.

What's In The Bag (As of April 2023, post-MAX change + new putter)

 

Driver:  Tour Edge EXS 10.5° (base loft); weights neutral   ||  FWs:  Calla Rogue 4W + 7W

Hybrid:  Calla Big Bertha OS 4H at 22°  ||  Irons:  Calla Mavrik MAX 5i-PW

Wedges*:  Calla MD3: 48°... MD4: 54°, 58° ||  PutterΨSeeMore FGP + SuperStroke 1.0PT, 33" shaft

Ball: 1. Srixon Q-Star Tour / 2. Calla SuperHot (Orange preferred)  ||  Bag: Sun Mountain Three 5 stand bag

    * MD4 54°/10 S-Grind replaced MD3 54°/12 W-Grind.

     Ψ  Backups:

  • Ping Sigma G Tyne (face-balanced) + Evnroll Gravity Grip |
  • Slotline Inertial SL-583F w/ SuperStroke 2.MidSlim (50 gr. weight removed) |
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I think it comes down to which shape do you like better. smaller profile/compact head - ap2. apex pro if not.

TM Qi10 LS - Ventus Blue 6X

TM Stealth 2+ 3W - Ventus Blue TR 7X

Titleist TSi3 3H - Tensei Pro White 100TX

Titleist T150 - KBS Tour 130X

Titleist Vokey SM6 Raw (50, 54) - DG S400

Vokey SM9 Black Raw - S400

Bettinardi Queen B #15

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AP2’s if we are talking the Apex Pro, though the difference is negligible.

Driver: Titleist Tsi3 w/HZRDUS Smoke Yellow TX 6.0 
3 Wood: Cobra King Speedzone/HZRDUS Smoke Yellow 70

5 Wood: Callaway Mavrik Subzero/Aldila Rogue White 70
Long Irons (4-6): Wilson D7 Forged/DG120TI
Short Irons (7-P): Wilson Staff Model Blade/DG120TI

Wedges (50/54/58): Callaway Jaws MD5 w/TI S200
Putter: Original Odyssey White Hot XG No. 7
Ball: Titleist Left Dash

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Has anyone heard of an upgrade to the Apex line?

Driver: Callaway Paradym 9 set to 10 Draw

3W Callaway  Epic Flash

5w Callaway Epic Flash
Hybrids: 4-5 Epic Flash    
               6-7 Big Bertha 

               7 Ping G430 played as an 8 

Irons: PXG Gen4 XP 9-GW

Wedges: PXG 0311 52 56 degree Forged

Putter: Odyssey Rossie Pro 2.0 

 

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