What Does Callaway Have In Store For 2019?

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  • JunglelandJungleland Members Posts: 425 ✭✭
    DRRicks wrote:

    Oaks wrote:


    Sean Toulon basically said on the podcast with Tursky and Knud that the negativity around here is awful




    It is when it comes to OEM Executives fielding questions. All of the sudden 1/2 the people on the site become ‘60 Minutes’ correspondents...but, without the journalism background!




    This isn't a criticism of Callaway's favorite forum but a compare/contrast. I think it is likely that feeling negativity here is more a product of being asked real questions after being lathered in golden retriever kisses at the other place. The forum's are night and day with gear heads versus casual golfers, of course there is going to be a different vibe. I read about Callaway complaining and that becomes off-putting to me, it's seems they would rather be loved and told how wonderful they are.
  • DRRicksDRRicks Banned Posts: 2,444 ClubWRX
    Jungleland wrote:

    DRRicks wrote:

    Oaks wrote:


    Sean Toulon basically said on the podcast with Tursky and Knud that the negativity around here is awful




    It is when it comes to OEM Executives fielding questions. All of the sudden 1/2 the people on the site become ‘60 Minutes’ correspondents...but, without the journalism background!




    This isn't a criticism of Callaway's favorite forum but a compare/contrast. I think it is likely that feeling negativity here is more a product of being asked real questions after being lathered in golden retriever kisses at the other place. The forum's are night and day with gear heads versus casual golfers, of course there is going to be a different vibe. I read about Callaway complaining and that becomes off-putting to me, it's seems they would rather be loved and told how wonderful they are.




    Honestly, who wants to come take questions and be 💩 upon the whole time? Why would anyone want to participate in that?
  • OaksOaks Member of #TeamJetSpeed ClubWRX Posts: 2,375 ClubWRX
    DRRicks wrote:

    Jungleland wrote:

    DRRicks wrote:

    Oaks wrote:


    Sean Toulon basically said on the podcast with Tursky and Knud that the negativity around here is awful




    It is when it comes to OEM Executives fielding questions. All of the sudden 1/2 the people on the site become '60 Minutes' correspondents...but, without the journalism background!




    This isn't a criticism of Callaway's favorite forum but a compare/contrast. I think it is likely that feeling negativity here is more a product of being asked real questions after being lathered in golden retriever kisses at the other place. The forum's are night and day with gear heads versus casual golfers, of course there is going to be a different vibe. I read about Callaway complaining and that becomes off-putting to me, it's seems they would rather be loved and told how wonderful they are.




    Honestly, who wants to come take questions and be �� upon the whole time? Why would anyone want to participate in that?




    Couldn't agree more - I think that there is a happy medium that needs to be reached - not as worshiping of somewhere else, but there is also a difference between Fair/Real questions that usually get asked vs some of the questions on here that people ask just to get either a no comment or a poor response. As they always say people remember the bad but rarely remember the good.
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  • mackepamackepa #TheWRX Members Posts: 3,585 ✭✭


    And I quote Roger Cleveland, "Epic and Rogue are nice, but for 2019 Callaway finally got the driver right."



    Oh boy....




    I like Roger Cleveland. He’s a super nice guy and has always left me with a no nonsense feeling about how he approaches golf but the snake oil is strong in that quote. If you really think the new driver will be head and shoulders better than Epic or Rogue or anything else for that matter then I have a big bridge I’d like to sell you.
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  • DRRicksDRRicks Banned Posts: 2,444 ClubWRX
    mackepa wrote:



    And I quote Roger Cleveland, "Epic and Rogue are nice, but for 2019 Callaway finally got the driver right."



    Oh boy....




    I like Roger Cleveland. He’s a super nice guy and has always left me with a no nonsense feeling about how he approaches golf but the snake oil is strong in that quote. If you really think the new driver will be head and shoulders better than Epic or Rogue or anything else for that matter then I have a big bridge I’d like to sell you.




    I agree. I’m hoping it’s the same performance with a better sound. That would be “getting it right”.
  • JunglelandJungleland Members Posts: 425 ✭✭
    DRRicks wrote:

    Jungleland wrote:

    DRRicks wrote:

    Oaks wrote:


    Sean Toulon basically said on the podcast with Tursky and Knud that the negativity around here is awful




    It is when it comes to OEM Executives fielding questions. All of the sudden 1/2 the people on the site become '60 Minutes' correspondents...but, without the journalism background!




    This isn't a criticism of Callaway's favorite forum but a compare/contrast. I think it is likely that feeling negativity here is more a product of being asked real questions after being lathered in golden retriever kisses at the other place. The forum's are night and day with gear heads versus casual golfers, of course there is going to be a different vibe. I read about Callaway complaining and that becomes off-putting to me, it's seems they would rather be loved and told how wonderful they are.




    Honestly, who wants to come take questions and be �� upon the whole time? Why would anyone want to participate in that?




    I get that, I used to take bullets on analyst calls so I can dodge incoming with the best of them!! I do think there are extremes, unfortunately both sites are the opposite ends of the extreme.
  • hef63303hef63303 Members Posts: 2,856 ✭✭

    benclab wrote:


    Current chrome soft x is amazing. I hope they don't touch it. It also seems to be outselling the pro v1 at some stores.




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  • bellview17bellview17 Just chilling in the time out box Members Posts: 915
    6 Drivers. One each 2 months.
  • DRRicksDRRicks Banned Posts: 2,444 ClubWRX
    bellview17 wrote:


    6 Drivers. One each 2 months.




    That isn’t overplayed or extremely lame. Promise.
  • DRRicksDRRicks Banned Posts: 2,444 ClubWRX
    Anyone able to find Schauflee’s irons in the USGA Conforming List?
  • rightslicerightslice Posts: 150 ✭✭
    Funny thing about drivers now days with the max out happening years ago. The marketing departments have to have 3 times the budget of the engineers. I know, We'll get Cleveland to say we finally got it right. He's a wedge guy so he'll come off like an innocent bystander. Then We'll have him say 6 months later we thought we had it right now we really do with the newest model...and on it goes.



    Rogue is a beast. (IMHO) Good luck Improving. Sound sucks but couple grams of rat glue and it cracks like an oak bat.
  • DTown3011DTown3011 #DTown3011 ClubWRX Posts: 3,550 ClubWRX
    DRRicks wrote:


    Anyone able to find Schauflee's irons in the USGA Conforming List?




    Nope, and I looked!
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  • DRRicksDRRicks Banned Posts: 2,444 ClubWRX
    DTown3011 wrote:

    DRRicks wrote:


    Anyone able to find Schauflee's irons in the USGA Conforming List?




    Nope, and I looked!




    Am I wrong to think that’s very odd?
  • DTown3011DTown3011 #DTown3011 ClubWRX Posts: 3,550 ClubWRX
    DRRicks wrote:

    DTown3011 wrote:

    DRRicks wrote:


    Anyone able to find Schauflee's irons in the USGA Conforming List?




    Nope, and I looked!




    Am I wrong to think that's very odd?




    They are certainly in play, so yes!



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  • sodapop3sodapop3 Members Posts: 21
    DRRicks wrote:

    mrmikeac wrote:


    GBB Epic Fusion

    Epic X

    MD5’s

    XR 19

    PM Grind 2.0

    Mack Daddy forged should be released before Christmas 2018

    *Flash Speed Technology* in woods

    *Rift* Technology in clubs

    New Apex line

    *Chrome Smart* golf balls




    I’m surprised the MD4 only lasted 1 year.




    i'm pretty sure the mack daddy series only has a one year life cycle so it makes sense.
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  • sodapop3sodapop3 Members Posts: 21
    mrmikeac wrote:


    GBB Epic Fusion

    Epic X

    MD5's

    XR 19

    PM Grind 2.0

    Mack Daddy forged should be released before Christmas 2018

    *Flash Speed Technology* in woods

    *Rift* Technology in clubs

    New Apex line

    *Chrome Smart* golf balls




    you must either work for or know someone who works for Callaway because you just gave me more info than my rep has given me. I knew about some of the things you mentioned but not all and I have asked him multiple times for an update on anything in the works.
    Epic Flash SZ 9* set to 10* w/ AD-DI 6S
    Epic 15* - Fujikura XLR8 61S
    TM Stage 2 Tour Hybrid 16.5* set to 17.5* - Motore Speeder VC 8.3S
    Apex 20* & 23* - Atmos Blue 85HB-S
    2018 X-Forged 5-PW - Aerotech Steelfiber i95 soft-stepped
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  • sodapop3sodapop3 Members Posts: 21
    GC70 wrote:


    I just want the CF16 replacement and I’ll be a happy camper.




    you'll be getting one.
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    Epic 15* - Fujikura XLR8 61S
    TM Stage 2 Tour Hybrid 16.5* set to 17.5* - Motore Speeder VC 8.3S
    Apex 20* & 23* - Atmos Blue 85HB-S
    2018 X-Forged 5-PW - Aerotech Steelfiber i95 soft-stepped
    Mack Daddy 4 51-11S/ 57-9C/ 60-12X
    Odyssey O-works Black #7S (at the moment, changes more frequently than underwear)
  • sodapop3sodapop3 Members Posts: 21


    Callaway really needs to change it up with the irons. Apex irons have got worse in my opinion. Rebrand them and start fresh.




    I agree I didn't like the apex pro 16 as much as my original apex pros. and seeing as they are on a 2 year life cycle I couldn't wait 6 years for new irons so when the x-forged 18s came out I had to get them, I have been happy with them but i'll definitely check out the new apex pros when they are released.
    Epic Flash SZ 9* set to 10* w/ AD-DI 6S
    Epic 15* - Fujikura XLR8 61S
    TM Stage 2 Tour Hybrid 16.5* set to 17.5* - Motore Speeder VC 8.3S
    Apex 20* & 23* - Atmos Blue 85HB-S
    2018 X-Forged 5-PW - Aerotech Steelfiber i95 soft-stepped
    Mack Daddy 4 51-11S/ 57-9C/ 60-12X
    Odyssey O-works Black #7S (at the moment, changes more frequently than underwear)
  • sodapop3sodapop3 Members Posts: 21
    i'd like to see a 16* hybrid that's adjustable. no company has made one since tm made the stage 2 tour in 16.5* and that's why it's still in my bag. it would go right in my bag if they made one.
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    Epic 15* - Fujikura XLR8 61S
    TM Stage 2 Tour Hybrid 16.5* set to 17.5* - Motore Speeder VC 8.3S
    Apex 20* & 23* - Atmos Blue 85HB-S
    2018 X-Forged 5-PW - Aerotech Steelfiber i95 soft-stepped
    Mack Daddy 4 51-11S/ 57-9C/ 60-12X
    Odyssey O-works Black #7S (at the moment, changes more frequently than underwear)
  • TheMoneyShotTheMoneyShot ***FIGJAM/Twirl of Doom*** Members Posts: 30,342 ✭✭
    sodapop3 wrote:


    i'd like to see a 16* hybrid that's adjustable. no company has made one since tm made the stage 2 tour in 16.5* and that's why it's still in my bag. it would go right in my bag if they made one.




    I just hope their new fwy/hybrid lines have adjustability period. I like the rogue but much prefer the adjustability to dial things in.
  • sodapop3sodapop3 Members Posts: 21
    mrmikeac wrote:

    kadeyoung6 wrote:



    I'd like to see the new fwys and hybrids be adjustable with jail break tech.




    I've held the protos of the new fwys and they were bonded. I didn't get much intel on them except you could see they had jailbreak and there is both a standard and SZ version. The sole was a lot closer to the Rogue than I would have thought, but more flat like the Epic. It also has a different head shape at address than either the Epic or Rogue.



    As far as wedges, I have heard the MD Forged is going away and the new version is going to be a mix of the MD 4 and Forged. Head/toe shape of the MD 4 with he straighter leading edge of the Forged. New PM wedge is coming too, but I haven't seen it yet.



    Iron wise, the protos that Xander has been testing are going to be a new line, however from what I have been told, they don't know exactly what they are going to replace, either the Apex or they may even be the new Legacy model.



    And as always, new chrome softs coming.




    The new upcoming MD Forged wedges have already been posted on another thread as well as the new PM Grind 2.0's....




    any chance you could post a link to these threads you speak of?
    Epic Flash SZ 9* set to 10* w/ AD-DI 6S
    Epic 15* - Fujikura XLR8 61S
    TM Stage 2 Tour Hybrid 16.5* set to 17.5* - Motore Speeder VC 8.3S
    Apex 20* & 23* - Atmos Blue 85HB-S
    2018 X-Forged 5-PW - Aerotech Steelfiber i95 soft-stepped
    Mack Daddy 4 51-11S/ 57-9C/ 60-12X
    Odyssey O-works Black #7S (at the moment, changes more frequently than underwear)
  • BYKBYK Members Posts: 1,595 ✭✭
    sodapop3 wrote:



    Callaway really needs to change it up with the irons. Apex irons have got worse in my opinion. Rebrand them and start fresh.




    I agree I didn't like the apex pro 16 as much as my original apex pros. and seeing as they are on a 2 year life cycle I couldn't wait 6 years for new irons so when the x-forged 18s came out I had to get them, I have been happy with them but i'll definitely check out the new apex pros when they are released.




    Yup

    I agree

    Still play the original Apex irons

    the CF16 were no better at all (I think a little worse actually now that I think about it)
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  • Gary GutfulGary Gutful Members Posts: 1,167 ✭✭
    They got Epic and Rogue right. What a load of hyped up horse plop.
  • mrmikeacmrmikeac Posts: 363 ✭✭
    sodapop3 wrote:

    mrmikeac wrote:

    kadeyoung6 wrote:



    I'd like to see the new fwys and hybrids be adjustable with jail break tech.




    I've held the protos of the new fwys and they were bonded. I didn't get much intel on them except you could see they had jailbreak and there is both a standard and SZ version. The sole was a lot closer to the Rogue than I would have thought, but more flat like the Epic. It also has a different head shape at address than either the Epic or Rogue.



    As far as wedges, I have heard the MD Forged is going away and the new version is going to be a mix of the MD 4 and Forged. Head/toe shape of the MD 4 with he straighter leading edge of the Forged. New PM wedge is coming too, but I haven't seen it yet.



    Iron wise, the protos that Xander has been testing are going to be a new line, however from what I have been told, they don't know exactly what they are going to replace, either the Apex or they may even be the new Legacy model.



    And as always, new chrome softs coming.




    The new upcoming MD Forged wedges have already been posted on another thread as well as the new PM Grind 2.0's....




    any chance you could post a link to these threads you speak of?




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  • DRRicksDRRicks Banned Posts: 2,444 ClubWRX
    I’m hearing that the PM 2.0 is a no-go now!
  • TheMoneyShotTheMoneyShot ***FIGJAM/Twirl of Doom*** Members Posts: 30,342 ✭✭
    DRRicks wrote:


    I’m hearing that the PM 2.0 is a no-go now!




    What what what????
  • DRRicksDRRicks Banned Posts: 2,444 ClubWRX

    DRRicks wrote:


    I’m hearing that the PM 2.0 is a no-go now!




    What what what????




    I know! A local rep was saying that it got left out of the upcoming release schedule. I’m trying to get confirmation
  • TheMoneyShotTheMoneyShot ***FIGJAM/Twirl of Doom*** Members Posts: 30,342 ✭✭
    DRRicks wrote:


    DRRicks wrote:


    I’m hearing that the PM 2.0 is a no-go now!




    What what what????




    I know! A local rep was saying that it got left out of the upcoming release schedule. I’m trying to get confirmation




    If true, somebody dropped the ball big time. Ugh...
  • getair23getair23 Members Posts: 1,921 ✭✭
    Is there a big difference between PM 1 and 2.0?
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  • d1boundd1bound Posts: 125 ✭✭
    getair23 wrote:


    Is there a big difference between PM 1 and 2.0?


    Probably not but it looks like we'll never know
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