Info on 2019 TaylorMade drivers?

I am sure it has been asked on here 4,000 times but does anyone have info on what TaylorMade has in store for 2019 drivers and fairways? When do they usually release their new clubs?
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  • stanger37stanger37 Members Posts: 353 ✭✭
    I think December/January is when they started teasing last year. February was the official release month to retail.
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  • Rippin6GearsRippin6Gears Members Posts: 87
    Pretty sure it will have a twistier face
  • From_Parts_UnknownFrom_Parts_Unknown Members Posts: 1,801 ✭✭
    I can't even think that far in advance. I'm going to have at least two or three different drivers before then.
  • golden543golden543 Members Posts: 32
    hope it doesn't have that twisty face thing again
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  • StanksStanks Everything I post is confrontational Members Posts: 1,230 ✭✭
    THe M3 and M4 are pretty much the pinnacle in my mind for Taylormades driver. The really only things they can do are something to adapt a Jailbreak style backing or aerodynamics package like Ping.
  • lordemsworthlordemsworth Members Posts: 1,283 ✭✭
    Isn’t the hammerhead technology their response to jailbreak?
  • TheMoneyShotTheMoneyShot ***FIGJAM/Twirl of Doom*** Members Posts: 30,472 ✭✭
    Maybe we see MWT make a comeback with the next offering?
  • New EdgeNew Edge Members Posts: 149
    More traditional pear shape, black crown, minimal alignment aids, feel of a r5/r7 tp. Please
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  • TheMoneyShotTheMoneyShot ***FIGJAM/Twirl of Doom*** Members Posts: 30,472 ✭✭
    A modern day R510 TP would be nice.
  • USGA22USGA22 Members Posts: 191 ✭✭


    Pretty sure it will have a twistier face




    Great line. However, it cost me twenty bucks as I bet a friend it would take at least five people before the twistier word was used.



    Darn it.
  • bladehunterbladehunter Today was a good day.... Members Posts: 25,741 ✭✭


    Isn't the hammerhead technology their response to jailbreak?






    if so they need to rethink it ... Rogue blows it away on off center ball speed.. i mean not even close
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  • HappyGilmore22HappyGilmore22 Members Posts: 157 ✭✭
    Hopefully they get rid of the twist face. Tiger basically proved that to be total crap.
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  • swgolf12swgolf12 Members Posts: 893 ✭✭
    The funny thing is they could leave the face the same and if they took the twist face writing off of the face none of you would be the wiser.
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  • getair23getair23 Members Posts: 1,953 ✭✭


    A modern day R510 TP would be nice.
    Deep/Open face with Twist Face might crash WRX! If they add the old TP logo game over.
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  • Golf64Golf64 Go Habs Go! Ontario, CanadaMembers Posts: 7,717 ✭✭


    Pretty sure it will have a twistier face
    Twistier face that goes 17 yards longer?!
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  • KaexoKaexo Members Posts: 671 ✭✭



    Isn't the hammerhead technology their response to jailbreak?






    if so they need to rethink it ... Rogue blows it away on off center ball speed.. i mean not even close




    The only thing Rogue blows is Logan.



    As far as the Rogue being head above heels better than the M3 or M4 on off center ball speeds unvaldiated. I've seen just as good of ball speed from the M3 and M4 on off center hits as I do with the Rogue Subzero, Epic, G400. All are the same.
  • CwingCwing Members Posts: 8,047 ✭✭
    edited Sep 1, 2018 #18
    Say what you will but Twist Face just about eliminated my toe hook. Did my swing change? Well, given I still have my Epic and Fusion and hit big draws with them with nearly every swing and then hit my m4 and nearly every swing is a slight fade ———- Twist Face works for my miss.



    Honestly, I’m not sure how any one can make a better driver than what the current releases offer.
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  • jaffabelljaffabell Members Posts: 62
    Hopefully they get rid of the twist face. Tiger basically proved that to be total crap.


    Tiger doesn't miss the centre of the face, his face to path is just off now and again. Twist face is meant to help on off centre hits (rubbish).
  • Gary GutfulGary Gutful Members Posts: 1,170 ✭✭


    Pretty sure it will have a twistier face


    If it isn’t at least 42% twistier then I am out.
  • bladehunterbladehunter Today was a good day.... Members Posts: 25,741 ✭✭
    Kaexo wrote:




    Isn't the hammerhead technology their response to jailbreak?






    if so they need to rethink it ... Rogue blows it away on off center ball speed.. i mean not even close




    The only thing Rogue blows is Logan.



    As far as the Rogue being head above heels better than the M3 or M4 on off center ball speeds unvaldiated. I've seen just as good of ball speed from the M3 and M4 on off center hits as I do with the Rogue Subzero, Epic, G400. All are the same.




    Only validation I need for me was the 4 hours over two days of trackman data I produced testing the m3 m4 vs my m1. Then m4 vs rogue and rogue sub zero. Rogue whipped them all. Especially m3 and subzero.
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  • StanksStanks Everything I post is confrontational Members Posts: 1,230 ✭✭
    Tiger hit a draw today... The club promotes both ball flights!!!



    But seriously, what the **** else can they fix or change and put into the driver?
  • Rippin6GearsRippin6Gears Members Posts: 87
    Stanks wrote:


    Tiger hit a draw today... The club promotes both ball flights!!!



    But seriously, what the **** else can they fix or change and put into the driver?




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  • mrmikeacmrmikeac Members Posts: 369 ✭✭

    Kaexo wrote:




    Isn't the hammerhead technology their response to jailbreak?






    if so they need to rethink it ... Rogue blows it away on off center ball speed.. i mean not even close




    The only thing Rogue blows is Logan.



    As far as the Rogue being head above heels better than the M3 or M4 on off center ball speeds unvaldiated. I've seen just as good of ball speed from the M3 and M4 on off center hits as I do with the Rogue Subzero, Epic, G400. All are the same.




    Only validation I need for me was the 4 hours over two days of trackman data I produced testing the m3 m4 vs my m1. Then m4 vs rogue and rogue sub zero. Rogue whipped them all. Especially m3 and subzero.




    Just remember, just because you experienced better ball speeds with Rogue on off center hits does not mean that its the case for everyone.



    The Rogue SZ is back in my bag, I love it, but I had an M3 440 prior to that and it blew my Rogue out of the water on off center hits and distance. Only reason I went back to the Rogue is because I hit more fairways with it.

    So in my experience, the M3 440 is much faster off the face but just not as straight.
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  • StanksStanks Everything I post is confrontational Members Posts: 1,230 ✭✭

    Stanks wrote:


    Tiger hit a draw today... The club promotes both ball flights!!!



    But seriously, what the **** else can they fix or change and put into the driver?




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    Typical Seattle citizen answer haha. That's pretty funny. All I can imagine is Taylormade really working on aerodynamics the same as Ping and Callaway.



    You have twist face, adjustable weights, adjustable lofts / lie angles, and some what of an answer to "Jail Break" tech with their "hammerhead" slot. I'm really at a loss for what can be worked on.
  • jll62jll62 ClubWRX Posts: 2,027 ClubWRX
    Stanks wrote:


    Stanks wrote:


    Tiger hit a draw today... The club promotes both ball flights!!!



    But seriously, what the **** else can they fix or change and put into the driver?




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    Typical Seattle citizen answer haha. That's pretty funny. All I can imagine is Taylormade really working on aerodynamics the same as Ping and Callaway.



    You have twist face, adjustable weights, adjustable lofts / lie angles, and some what of an answer to "Jail Break" tech with their "hammerhead" slot. I'm really at a loss for what can be worked on.




    We all said the same thing last year and then Twist Face was released, so you never know. But it feels like TaylorMade might be entering a tick-tock product cycle: big change one year, followed by incremental refinement the next. If I'm right, then I'd expected updated M3/M4 with evolutionary, rather than revolutionary, features. That might sound boring to some, but I think it's interesting. Remember, just because Hammerhead exists, that doesn't mean it can't be improved. Just because adjustable weights/lofts/lie/etc exist, that doesn't mean they can't be improved.



    Ball speeds out of the center are basically maxed, but there is still a lot of room for advancement with ball speed retention on off-center hits. That's the type of thing I expect we'll see improvements on in upcoming models.
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  • MackdiddypMackdiddyp Members Posts: 1,010 ✭✭
    New driver will probably have speed foam.
  • StanksStanks Everything I post is confrontational Members Posts: 1,230 ✭✭
    jll62 wrote:

    Stanks wrote:


    Stanks wrote:


    Tiger hit a draw today... The club promotes both ball flights!!!



    But seriously, what the **** else can they fix or change and put into the driver?




    Platinum or 24k gold




    Typical Seattle citizen answer haha. That's pretty funny. All I can imagine is Taylormade really working on aerodynamics the same as Ping and Callaway.



    You have twist face, adjustable weights, adjustable lofts / lie angles, and some what of an answer to "Jail Break" tech with their "hammerhead" slot. I'm really at a loss for what can be worked on.




    We all said the same thing last year and then Twist Face was released, so you never know. But it feels like TaylorMade might be entering a tick-tock product cycle: big change one year, followed by incremental refinement the next. If I'm right, then I'd expected updated M3/M4 with evolutionary, rather than revolutionary, features. That might sound boring to some, but I think it's interesting. Remember, just because Hammerhead exists, that doesn't mean it can't be improved. Just because adjustable weights/lofts/lie/etc exist, that doesn't mean they can't be improved.



    Ball speeds out of the center are basically maxed, but there is still a lot of room for advancement with ball speed retention on off-center hits. That's the type of thing I expect we'll see improvements on in upcoming models.




    I 100% agree on all statements made. Minor changes, if any, will reflect in the newest rendition. Maybe a new paint scheme, change in the weight types or styles, bigger or smaller hammerhead slot, etc. These things still take some R&D investment as do all changes for one of the most highly sold drivers in the past few years. Of course, I'm sure they'll change the look at address as well with the thickness of the grey on top.
  • spring7spring7 Members Posts: 673 ✭✭
    jaffabell wrote:

    Hopefully they get rid of the twist face. Tiger basically proved that to be total crap.


    Tiger doesn't miss the centre of the face, his face to path is just off now and again. Twist face is meant to help on off centre hits (rubbish).




    Tiger doesn't miss the centre of the face, his face to path is just ON once or twice a month. Fixed it for you...

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  • jll62jll62 ClubWRX Posts: 2,027 ClubWRX
    Stanks wrote:

    jll62 wrote:

    Stanks wrote:


    Stanks wrote:


    Tiger hit a draw today... The club promotes both ball flights!!!



    But seriously, what the **** else can they fix or change and put into the driver?




    Platinum or 24k gold




    Typical Seattle citizen answer haha. That's pretty funny. All I can imagine is Taylormade really working on aerodynamics the same as Ping and Callaway.



    You have twist face, adjustable weights, adjustable lofts / lie angles, and some what of an answer to "Jail Break" tech with their "hammerhead" slot. I'm really at a loss for what can be worked on.




    We all said the same thing last year and then Twist Face was released, so you never know. But it feels like TaylorMade might be entering a tick-tock product cycle: big change one year, followed by incremental refinement the next. If I'm right, then I'd expected updated M3/M4 with evolutionary, rather than revolutionary, features. That might sound boring to some, but I think it's interesting. Remember, just because Hammerhead exists, that doesn't mean it can't be improved. Just because adjustable weights/lofts/lie/etc exist, that doesn't mean they can't be improved.



    Ball speeds out of the center are basically maxed, but there is still a lot of room for advancement with ball speed retention on off-center hits. That's the type of thing I expect we'll see improvements on in upcoming models.




    I 100% agree on all statements made. Minor changes, if any, will reflect in the newest rendition. Maybe a new paint scheme, change in the weight types or styles, bigger or smaller hammerhead slot, etc. These things still take some R&D investment as do all changes for one of the most highly sold drivers in the past few years. Of course, I'm sure they'll change the look at address as well with the thickness of the grey on top.




    R&D is an interesting topic. It's worth remembering that OEM products are seldom reactions to a model just released by a competitor. These designs are on the table for a couple of years before they're released, which is why I don't think Hammerhead was a reaction to Jailbreak. This year is likely the first chance we'll see anything that is a direct response to Epic.
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  • bladehunterbladehunter Today was a good day.... Members Posts: 25,741 ✭✭
    edited Sep 1, 2018 #31
    mrmikeac wrote:


    Kaexo wrote:




    Isn't the hammerhead technology their response to jailbreak?






    if so they need to rethink it ... Rogue blows it away on off center ball speed.. i mean not even close




    The only thing Rogue blows is Logan.



    As far as the Rogue being head above heels better than the M3 or M4 on off center ball speeds unvaldiated. I've seen just as good of ball speed from the M3 and M4 on off center hits as I do with the Rogue Subzero, Epic, G400. All are the same.




    Only validation I need for me was the 4 hours over two days of trackman data I produced testing the m3 m4 vs my m1. Then m4 vs rogue and rogue sub zero. Rogue whipped them all. Especially m3 and subzero.




    Just remember, just because you experienced better ball speeds with Rogue on off center hits does not mean that its the case for everyone.



    The Rogue SZ is back in my bag, I love it, but I had an M3 440 prior to that and it blew my Rogue out of the water on off center hits and distance. Only reason I went back to the Rogue is because I hit more fairways with it.

    So in my experience, the M3 440 is much faster off the face but just not as straight.




    I’m talking rogue . Regular old rogue. Subzero is right there with m3-m4 on off center hits.



    I get what you’re saying. But I don’t think it’s true this time. Rogue and G400 max are head and shoulders above TM this time in forgiveness . You should give the rogue a try vs subzero. Unless you just can’t get spin down any other way , you’re giving up some with subzero. I’m a high speed high spin player who hits down on it. And we found a combo of loft and shaft that took me to 2200 rpm average coming from 2800 average with a tour 17 m1 Head.



    Not dissing Tm. I’m playing their putter and the 17 m1 is the best 3 wood I’ve ever owned. But they have some ground to make up in my opinion on rogue in the Driver dept.
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