I used to play with a guy when I was a teenager. He was 72 and shot his age or better 4 out of 5 rounds and never shot over 75. He walked and played 27 many days. Also played 300+ rounds a year.
For you other old guys that remember the Oldsmobile Scramble, our group won our club event,
won our sectional event and went to Disney Florida for the National event. Going into the last day,
if your group was in the top 20, you made the cut and were paired with a PGA pro. We got Kenny
Knox. 1st. when they hit the ball, it’s a different sound. Hard to describe, but you can tell the difference.
Our club pro was about 30 and had tried to give Mini Tours a try. Didn’t work. Point is, he was past
Knox on most every drive. Sometimes our Pro was in rough or trees, Knox, down the middle every time,
hit all the greens. He didn’t make a lot of putts that day, but he could read a green, which is an art form.
i was hitting balls on the range next to Keith Clearwater. I watched hit about 20 balls with a mid iron, you
could have covered all 20 with a blanket. I don’t think most people have any real idea just how really, really
good these tour guys are.
just discovered this thread. Are you saying you carry a gun in your golf bag?
I hope not, that’s a level of insecurity I hope to never see or reach. The golf course is a sanctuary, if you’re packing heat to the course please find a new hobby.
Trust me it was a joke whether in good or bad taste but I’m sorry its reality
Was this in south Florida for the old Miccossukee Championship?
I play with Allen Doyle two or three times a week...guess he would qualify. Doesn't miss a fairway and from 120 yards in he'll beat your eyes out. A few weeks ago I shot a 70 and lost by 8 shots. :(
Family member of mine was scratch for a number of years before work took him on the road. I've played with him first hand at a number of nice courses in Monterey, Oregon and Seattle, seemed to just be able to hole birdies 4-5 holes in a row. But at his club he would get his @ss beaten by a little 14 year old, last name Moore... he made a name for himself eventually lol
Never played with an actual tour player but took lessons in high school from a guy that went thru qualifying and played in 2 U.S. Opens. Caddied for him at a U.S. Senior Open Qualifier in San Antonio and got a reality check. He didn't have the mental game as he blew up after one bogey on the back. The shot I will always remember was a old Ping Eye 2 2 iron he had from 260ish uphill over a ravine to a mounded green surrounded by bunkers. He actually asked me what i thought so i nervously said to lay up. He proceeded to stick it pin high bout 15ft. At 16 I didnt realize that could be done. Also played with Hunter Mahan and Martin Flores a few times in high school tournaments. Hunter was the #1 junior in the world at the time. Well at our home tournament I fired a 78 and was pretty proud as it was a tough course. Hunter and Martin came in both shooting 67's. Martin won in a scorecard playoff. Those 2 won everything around DFW back then.
I agree with you but.... I know several who have one somewhere in the cart or bag all rounds.
i too hope to never be that scared. That and I have poor impulse control. It’s a bad idea.
around here we do get bears, cougars, lynx and coyotes occasionally. But I've never heard of anyone packing a gun even to protect against those threats. Wonder if Joe Pesci packs when he plays? Would not like to come across any Tommy DeVitos on or off the golf course
I have legitimately been surrounded by gators on ChampionsGate National while walking and didn’t feel the need for one. I just called the clubhouse and took out my 3 iron and all ended well.
I couldn’t fathom that level of insecurity or mistrust.
No sir. It was in the Pittsburgh PA area. I believe it was called the Myland Classic at the time, but I don't think that tournament exists anymore.
I have heard that Loblolly used to give a couple grounds employees handguns with buck shot because snakes (rattlers, moccasins, corals) used to be so prevalent.
As a former grounds crew grunt (in my youth ) of a 36 hole private club with no homes , I can totally see the need for that. I once had a bobcat harass me while mowing greens. For 9 holes I heard that **** thing cry. Their sound is similar to a baby crying. Kind of high pitched. It was 6 am and dark. Not fun. Hadn’t really considered wildlife and I haven’t been on a course that wild in years. I didn’t really play the game then ( an employee scramble or two with a rental set doesn’t really count ) , just worked 6 sometimes 7 days a week on one. After I left in 2001 I didn’t return to a course until 2014ish.
Would a regular handgun be any use against a gator, anyway? I thought their hides were too thick for most bullets to penetrate.
On a few of the courses I play around here, it's not unusual to see deer cross the fairways. Tasty, tasty deer...
I doubt it, we used to use something called a bang stick on gator hunts The few I went out on by no means am I an expert. It’s a pole with shell and firing mechanism you have to get it right behind the eyes and boom...goodnight
How close did you have to get to the gator to use that!? I mean, one tiny mistake and it's SNAP...goodnight.
I played a round with Justin Leonard, but even more fun, played with Annika Sorenstam in a pro am. She was awesome. Really fun round.
you gotta get right there but that’s kinda part of the fun tbh.
Dayummm, and it still wasn't dead!
Interesting that, anyway. I didn't know about the bang stick. Thanks for posting it.
I work part time at my local public course, so I get to play with our pros. Our head pro is a legit scratch golfer, and the 2 assistant pros are single digit. I always feel bad playing with them since they seem to just be standing around most of the time waiting for us mere mortals to finally make it onto the green. On the plus side playing with them usually results in them giving little mini lessons as we play the round.
they use those bang sticks on sharks too. As for snakes, where do you have that assortment of corals, moccasins etc? How do you get them to sit still while you bang away with a pistol, lol
Shotgun or Judge helps.
Just got back from Merritt Island Florida, gun stayed in the car and this guy stayed right there while I hit my Threewood into the par five
South Florida. When it was first built there wasn’t much around it. Loblolly sits against the lagoon and bordered by empty natural areas. They were loaded with buck shot I’m pretty certain. I’m not sure how often they were used. I heard this one from someone that would know and I trust.
The winning score for my club championship this year was -5 over two rounds, and I think there were 3 or 4 players under par overall. I've never played with a PGA Tour pro, but a guy that I used to work with at a club was grinding mini tours for a while, pretty sure he shot in the 60s every round I played with him, and made it look easy. Unfortunately he had to give up the dream and get a regular job eventually.
Guy (21 y/o) in my group (median age about 50), is at present a 0.6. Post every round, but that also means he has 10 rounds in the last 20 which his index isn't based on. And I (a 52 y/o 10.7) did beat him last week- congratulations to me, and I will enjoy that for the next few months until the stars align and I might do it again - until then, I can look forward to him crushing me from the back tees week in and week out. Played with this fine young man when he was just starting at 17, where in a few weeks of starting he passed me up (back then a 14) and this past year he went from a 4.5 to 0.6. Only a few lessons - mostly youtube videos, practice, gym time, and playing. (In addition to carrying a full medical load in college).
Most amazing round I have witnessed/been a part of - club pro (who was on minis and played in college) joined me for a 2-man scramble. He didn't have his clubs, and he played with my awful set, including a old Burner Draw driver with a regular flex shaft (and his normal was XX-Stiff) - swung the driver a couple times from what I remember and proceeded to drive 2 par 4s. When he didn't, he'd pull a random wedge and put it within 6 feet - about every time. I think we ended 9 under for 9 holes. That was years ago. This year, I almost beat this guy on 9 holes - but at 41 he did move up to the white tees for this round. We had a great walk. I shot a 39 (3 over). He shot 38. I used all 13 clubs and my putter. He didn't want to be bothered carrying all that crap, so he had a 7 iron he pulled from the workshop. Again, he was 2 over with only a 7 iron. Thought I had a chance-- right up to the first green where he stuck one coming over a bunker from 40 yards out. Dude regularly plays in deck shoes or flip flops.
With tour professionals (+1 to +6 hdcp): A few times. It's really not a big secret--take all skill sets required for golf and put them in the top 1/10 of 1% of each category. They pretty much hit every shot with perfect club-to-ball contact and their definition of a mishit would be lost on most.
They can hit nearly every green in regulation from just about anywhere and unless they completely screw up, every approach inside 175 yards is going to end up ~20' or closer on most setups.
They also can read greens exceptionally well and have all their 'percentage of go' in muscle memory. They know what a 75% 8 iron is, know what it feels like, and know it goes 159 yards and can replicate it with almost perfection time after time after time.
Their bunker play is elite.
We are talking about a level of player here who can feel an extra wrap of masking tape and, while blindfolded, tell you what club you hand them before even taking an address with it.
With scratch golfers: Quite a bit. They're missing a few intangibles, mainly green reading, wind reading, and their club-to-ball contact and muscle memory "percentage of go"/distance control is not as refined as a touring professional or +hdcp player.
They may have a distance issue, where some birdie holes are slightly out of reach based on approach angles, or something else like their ability to deal with pressure, or something small and insignificant like a 2 way miss and inability to hit a low stinger fade that is needed on this particular setup.
My home course was a qualifying site for the US Amateur a couple years ago. I went out on the day before the tournament, and was paired with one of the contenders. He was playing from the tips (~7400yds), me from the whites (6400 yds). He was past me on every drive, pretty much center of the fairway. On or near every green in regulation. Ball flight and control were unreal. He didn't even come close to qualifying, the winning score over 2 rounds was like -12, he shot +2. Those guys are good.
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