Two man scramble HC

ShilgyShilgy Members Posts: 11,299 ✭✭
This probably had been discussed but just a curious question for the rules gurus.



Two man scramble the USGA suggested handicap allowance is 35% of the low cap and 15% of the higher. That works fine until you get to plus caps. A +5 playing with a scratch would give 5 shots back to the field of playing by himself but the team only gives back 1.75 strokes. Seems odd he gives back fewer with "help".



Can anyone explain this logic?
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  • BrianMcGBrianMcG Members Posts: 2,233 ✭✭
    edited Sep 15, 2018 #2




    Where is this tournament where there is a +5 playing with a scratch.
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    Bobby: I play because I love it.
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  • ShilgyShilgy Members Posts: 11,299 ✭✭
    BrianMcG wrote:






    Where is this tournament where there is a +5 playing with a scratch.
    Club qualifier for the Arizona State two man event. We had three similar teams competing.
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  • BrianMcGBrianMcG Members Posts: 2,233 ✭✭
    edited Sep 15, 2018 #4
    Shilgy wrote:

    BrianMcG wrote:






    Where is this tournament where there is a +5 playing with a scratch.
    Club qualifier for the Arizona State two man event. We had three similar teams competing.




    For the + handicap they should be adding to his, not taking away. He should be set to 6.75.
    Walter: Tell me Bobby, why do you play this game?
    Bobby: I play because I love it.
    Walter: Well I play for the money. I have to win. That is why every time we face each other I will always beat you.
  • ShilgyShilgy Members Posts: 11,299 ✭✭
    BrianMcG wrote:

    Shilgy wrote:

    BrianMcG wrote:






    Where is this tournament where there is a +5 playing with a scratch.
    Club qualifier for the Arizona State two man event. We had three similar teams competing.




    For the + handicap they should be adding to his, not taking away. He should be set to 6.75.
    That is incorrect. You can look it up.
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    To paraphrase Dr Seuss: Don't cry because the round of golf is over-smile because it happened . :)

    Game is recovering from total ankle replacement. Getting there and glad to be pain free!
  • ShilgyShilgy Members Posts: 11,299 ✭✭
    After looking it up I "remembered".

    I think all would agree that if you had three teams



    1) 10 cap and 20 cap



    2) 0 cap and 10 cap



    3) +10 cap and 0 cap



    The difference between team handicaps in a two man scramble should be the same as all players are 10 strokes apart. Therefore the difference between teams 1 and 2 is the same as the difference between team 2 and 3.

    Do the math with the 35% low guys cap and 15% high guys.

    Team 1 gets 6.5... Team 2 gets 1.5 and Team 3 gives back 3.5.



    Difference of 5 strokes between each team.
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    To paraphrase Dr Seuss: Don't cry because the round of golf is over-smile because it happened . :)

    Game is recovering from total ankle replacement. Getting there and glad to be pain free!
  • QEightQEight Members Posts: 3,398 ✭✭
    edited Sep 16, 2018 #7
    Shilgy wrote:


    After looking it up I "remembered".

    I think all would agree that if you had three teams



    1) 10 cap and 20 cap



    2) 0 cap and 10 cap



    3) +10 cap and 0 cap



    The difference between team handicaps in a two man scramble should be the same as all players are 10 strokes apart. Therefore the difference between teams 1 and 2 is the same as the difference between team 2 and 3.

    Do the math with the 35% low guys cap and 15% high guys.

    Team 1 gets 6.5... Team 2 gets 1.5 and Team 3 gives back 3.5.



    Difference of 5 strokes between each team.




    Good that you remembered. All of this has been done few times before.



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