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  • stanger37stanger37  448Members Posts: 448
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    dalehead wrote:

    zonadub wrote:

    ctfuzz21 wrote:


    It's not necessarily that bc Tour Pro Steve plays a brand you will buy it. The player endorsement's true value is the constant marketing of that brand on Saturday and Sundays from 2-6p and the highlight shows all week after.



    It's rarely a straight line; more of a constant drip to at least get you to "think" of their brand when it comes time to make a purchasing decision.




    This. ^^^^^



    zonadub wrote:

    ctfuzz21 wrote:


    It's not necessarily that bc Tour Pro Steve plays a brand you will buy it. The player endorsement's true value is the constant marketing of that brand on Saturday and Sundays from 2-6p and the highlight shows all week after.



    It's rarely a straight line; more of a constant drip to at least get you to "think" of their brand when it comes time to make a purchasing decision.




    This. ^^^^^




    Exactly. There are some guys who buy equipment because their favorite pro plays it, e.g. some of the Tiger fans who suddenly discovered Nike clubs were the best for their game. Or all the Ardmore 3 putters that flew off the shelves when Tiger gamed one. As for the guys who say Tour use has no effect on their buying decisions, be honest. You have never considered buying a club because you saw it used by a Tour player? Maybe you bought it, maybe you didn't but you thought about it. This is the process the OP talks about. Apparently it works for the equipment makers. Either that or they are run by a bunch of idiots who are wasting their companies money on player endorsements with no return.



    Here's a prediction for 2019. We will see many discussions here on Golf WRX about Honma equipment, including guys who have purchased it. In contrast you could probably fit the clubs Honma sold in the US in 2018 in my garage. The difference? Justin Rose.




    I was one of those Nike kids. My first tax return as a freshman in highschool went to my first set of new clubs and went Nike because I didn't know anything else and I saw Tiger using them. Figured if they were good enough for Tiger, good enough for me. Completely ignorant, I just wanted a new set, I liked the colors and knew nothing of performance. By the time I replaced them, I knew a little more, got fitted and did more research. Nike to this day still has a place in my heart and love the Vapor Fly line. Still use the woods to this day. It'll be a sad day when I finally hang them up for something new. (mostly because when I purchased them, you didn't have to withdraw from your 401k to afford them)



    And to piggyback off what you mentioned, "never considered buying a club because you saw it used by a Tour player" there is a thread on here that is called "brands you won't play" and a lot of reasons are because they don't like a tour player that uses them. So it works both ways. Either lean towards a brand or against a brand because of the players that play the clubs for whatever reason.
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    ]Nike Vapor Fly 3W 15*
    Nike Vapor Fly 7W 21*
    Taylormade PSI 4-PW
    Cleveland RTX 52/10
    Cleveland CG15 56/14
    Taylormade Hi-Toe 60
    Odyessy O-Works #7
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  • jimb6golfjimb6golf  1646Members Posts: 1,646
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    Crossfield switched to FJ clothing and shoes. Sorry all I could think of.
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  • MattyO1984MattyO1984  5422Members Posts: 5,422
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    jimb6golf wrote:


    Crossfield switched to FJ clothing and shoes. Sorry all I could think of.




    Did they just get him to wear all the old stuff that he used to wear?
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    Titleist 915Fd 15 Stiff Rogue Black 
    Titleist 915Hd 17.5 Stiff Diamana S+
    Titleist 714 AP2 4-PW Stiff KBS Tour
    Titleist Vokey SM6 50.08 & 54.10
    Titlesist Vokey SM7 60.04
    Scotty Cameron Futura 5S
    ProV1x 2019
  • 57Seve57Seve USA VIA ENGLAND 120Unregistered Posts: 120
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    collindm1 wrote:

    noodle3872 wrote:


    collindm1 wrote:

    noodle3872 wrote:


    And Toulon putter!




    Molinari? Isn't he a brand ambassador for Bettinardi?




    He signed with them this past season.



    Don't know how long contract is: https://www.pgatour....utter-deal.html




    Guess the Betti deal is done now and he's full bag Callaway and Odyssey Toulon. Golf ball is the wild card.




    Wow - can't believe switching up the putter after the year he had. Thanks!




    Huge risk for him. That Betti was his light saber.
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  • 57Seve57Seve USA VIA ENGLAND 120Unregistered Posts: 120
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    zonadub wrote:


    How many of you that say amateurs don't buy based on what pros play bought a $300+ Scotty Cameron putter because Tiger made everything under the sun that he needed to? But never picked up a Tour Edge or the new Ben Hogan line because nobody on tour plays them?

    Tour use is validation of the 'quality' of manufacture, whether subliminal or pure endorsement.




    Own 1 Scotty, a Circa 62 that I bought used because I had it confused with a Circle T.

    Currently own a Tour Edge driver and 3 wood.

    First hybrid I ever bought was a Hogan.




    I think (and hope) this line was meant to be the comedy gold that it is:



    "Own 1 Scotty, a Circa 62 that I bought used because I had it confused with a Circle T."



    Because this made me laugh, hard. Brilliant. Brilliant. Brilliant.
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  • 57Seve57Seve USA VIA ENGLAND 120Unregistered Posts: 120
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    BIG STU wrote:

    zonadub wrote:


    How many of you that say amateurs don't buy based on what pros play bought a $300+ Scotty Cameron putter because Tiger made everything under the sun that he needed to? But never picked up a Tour Edge or the new Ben Hogan line because nobody on tour plays them?

    Tour use is validation of the 'quality' of manufacture, whether subliminal or pure endorsement.
    If I am not mistaken J J Henry plays the new Hogan equipment on tour---- But I buy clubs based on what I like > Personally I could care less what Joe Pro plays on tour. It does not influence me one iota




    You're right BIG STU. Based in Fort Worth, so it makes sense.
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  • bg3puttsbg3putts 3 putts  43Members Posts: 43
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    texcrom wrote:


    Any final word on Sneds?
    Sneds has a Workday deal for the bag and hat, he is using the Taylormade driver and the new Taylormade ball. He is playing a set of Ping irons but may have switched to Taylormade as he also had a set of those he was testing. He tried the Ping driver but decided to stay with Taylormade at least for the near term in Hawaii. Everything else is the same. He has been contacted by a Japanese company on irons, Honma, I think but was not too interested as yet.
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  • Holy MosesHoly Moses  10578Members Posts: 10,578
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    bg3putts wrote:

    texcrom wrote:


    Any final word on Sneds?
    Sneds has a Workday deal for the bag and hat, he is using the Taylormade driver and the new Taylormade ball. He is playing a set of Ping irons but may have switched to Taylormade as he also had a set of those he was testing. He tried the Ping driver but decided to stay with Taylormade at least for the near term in Hawaii. Everything else is the same. He has been contacted by a Japanese company on irons, Honma, I think but was not too interested as yet.




    So he’s not using the Bridgestone irons that he posted on Twitter?
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    Ping G30 LS Tec 10* (DI-6X)
    Ping G30 3W 14.5* (DI-7X)
    Ping G400 Crossover 19* (Tensei CK Pro Blue 80 S)
    Ping i20 4-UW (PX 6.0)
    Ping Glide 2.0 56*SS, 60*ES (PX 6.0)
    Ping Vault Arna
  • 57Seve57Seve USA VIA ENGLAND 120Unregistered Posts: 120
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    Holy Moses wrote:

    bg3putts wrote:

    texcrom wrote:


    Any final word on Sneds?
    Sneds has a Workday deal for the bag and hat, he is using the Taylormade driver and the new Taylormade ball. He is playing a set of Ping irons but may have switched to Taylormade as he also had a set of those he was testing. He tried the Ping driver but decided to stay with Taylormade at least for the near term in Hawaii. Everything else is the same. He has been contacted by a Japanese company on irons, Honma, I think but was not too interested as yet.




    So he's not using the Bridgestone irons that he posted on Twitter?




    Those irons look like Bridgestone to me (in his Workday bag).
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  • kro88kro88  189Members Posts: 189
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    Saw on twitter that Ricky is switching to TM ball
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    Bag of tricks - in Mackenzie Walker
    Driver: Ping G40 Max 10.5 w/Fuji Speeder 661 Evo IV X
    Wood: Titleist 913 F2 19 w/Diamana S+ Blue 72s - setting C1 | Titleist 975f 20.5 w/ Grafalloy ProLite S Flex
    Irons: Miura 1957 Baby Blades w/Nippon Modus 120 Stiff 4-PW std lie
    Wedges: Titleist Vokey Sm7 50 - 2 flt - 1 wk w/KBS 610 | Vokey Design V grind oil can 54 - 2 flt -1 wk w/KBS 610 | Titleist Vokey Design Low Bounc K oil can 60 -2 flt w/KBS Hi-rev | Taylormade Hi-Toe 64 w/KBS Hi-Rev
    Putter: Mizuno TPM3 33.5 Inches - SS 3.0 grip
    Ball: Titleist Pro-V1
  • DRRicksDRRicks  2444Banned Posts: 2,444
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    57Seve wrote:

    Holy Moses wrote:

    bg3putts wrote:

    texcrom wrote:


    Any final word on Sneds?
    Sneds has a Workday deal for the bag and hat, he is using the Taylormade driver and the new Taylormade ball. He is playing a set of Ping irons but may have switched to Taylormade as he also had a set of those he was testing. He tried the Ping driver but decided to stay with Taylormade at least for the near term in Hawaii. Everything else is the same. He has been contacted by a Japanese company on irons, Honma, I think but was not too interested as yet.




    So he's not using the Bridgestone irons that he posted on Twitter?




    Those irons look like Bridgestone to me (in his Workday bag).




    It looks to me like he just got a new bag deal...he’s even still using Bstone headcovers!
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  • cvhookem63cvhookem63 Fujikura Ventus Experience ETX 4780ClubWRX Posts: 4,780
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    kro88 wrote:


    Saw on twitter that Ricky is switching to TM ball




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    NIKE Vapor Fly 14* Fujikura Rombax P95X
    NIKE Vapor Fly Pro 3-4 Fujikura Pro 95 Tour Spec X
    TaylorMade P770 5-9 X100
    NIKE OVEN Engage 46* X100 | Engage 50*SS / 55*SS / 60*DS S400
    SCOTTY CAMERON Select Squareback
  • pheenomz4774pheenomz4774  937Members Posts: 937
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    kro88 wrote:


    Saw on twitter that Ricky is switching to TM ball




    That would be interesting, I thought he would be buried with a ProV1 in his hand.
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    Equipment changes faster than it takes to make a sig...
  • OldTomMorrisOldTomMorris Edinburgh, Scotland 3093Members Posts: 3,093
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    MattyO1984 wrote:



    ^^ Seems odd but having gotten some insight into Team Molinari's approach and analytics via Denis Pugh on Sky Sports I'm 100% convinced its all planned to the finest detail.




    Now there is a good change for 2019, no more Denis Pugh on Sky Sports!




    Is that hope on your part or is he moving away from the TV work? Not my favourite but I found him OK.
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    TaylorMade M3 15°
    Titleist CB (710) 3-PW
    Callaway Mack Daddy 4 Chrome 54° S Grind & 58° C Grind
    Scotty Cameron Studio Select Newport 2
    Titleist Pro V 1x
  • North TexasNorth Texas  4469Members Posts: 4,469
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    57Seve wrote:


    zonadub wrote:


    How many of you that say amateurs don't buy based on what pros play bought a $300+ Scotty Cameron putter because Tiger made everything under the sun that he needed to? But never picked up a Tour Edge or the new Ben Hogan line because nobody on tour plays them?

    Tour use is validation of the 'quality' of manufacture, whether subliminal or pure endorsement.




    Own 1 Scotty, a Circa 62 that I bought used because I had it confused with a Circle T.

    Currently own a Tour Edge driver and 3 wood.

    First hybrid I ever bought was a Hogan.




    I think (and hope) this line was meant to be the comedy gold that it is:



    "Own 1 Scotty, a Circa 62 that I bought used because I had it confused with a Circle T."



    Because this made me laugh, hard. Brilliant. Brilliant. Brilliant.




    Naw, I'm embarrassed to admit I'm not that brilliant. I really thought I had found a steal in a little local golf shop. This was before I joined golfwrx so I'm a little more "educated" now when it comes to equipment, lol.
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  • cvhookem63cvhookem63 Fujikura Ventus Experience ETX 4780ClubWRX Posts: 4,780
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    Technically not equipment, but I just got an ad from Bonobos on Instagram officially announcing the Justin Rose sponsorship



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    NIKE Vapor Fly 14* Fujikura Rombax P95X
    NIKE Vapor Fly Pro 3-4 Fujikura Pro 95 Tour Spec X
    TaylorMade P770 5-9 X100
    NIKE OVEN Engage 46* X100 | Engage 50*SS / 55*SS / 60*DS S400
    SCOTTY CAMERON Select Squareback
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  • PhilWhitUKPhilWhitUK  117Members Posts: 117
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    They must be assuming Rose will drive sales in the USA as you cannot order from the Bonobos Website in Europe....strange as I would have thought the market segment Rose influences would be business men in UK rather than kids who want to be Ricky or DJ....
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    M4 driver, 3 and 5 wood
    G25 4 hybrid
    i200 irons
    TM Spider Tour
    MD4 50 & 54 with 58 PM grind
  • Holy MosesHoly Moses  10578Members Posts: 10,578
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    Woodland signed a 10 club deal with Wilson. He has a Cortex with him, not using it yet. Tim Clarke wants him to use the Cortex and has incentives for him if he plays it.



    Nice job by Jonathan Wall in reporting. He's a great addition for Golf Magazine.



    https://www.golf.com...f-signing-2019/
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    Ping G30 LS Tec 10* (DI-6X)
    Ping G30 3W 14.5* (DI-7X)
    Ping G400 Crossover 19* (Tensei CK Pro Blue 80 S)
    Ping i20 4-UW (PX 6.0)
    Ping Glide 2.0 56*SS, 60*ES (PX 6.0)
    Ping Vault Arna
  • LanglandsLanglands Scotland 1979Members Posts: 1,979
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    MattyO1984 wrote:



    ^^ Seems odd but having gotten some insight into Team Molinari's approach and analytics via Denis Pugh on Sky Sports I'm 100% convinced its all planned to the finest detail.




    Now there is a good change for 2019, no more Denis Pugh on Sky Sports!




    Is that hope on your part or is he moving away from the TV work? Not my favourite but I found him OK.




    He tweeted recently that he is finished as a regular studio guest. His daughter is getting married this year, and he wants to spend more time with his wife as she recovers from illness.
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    Callaway XR 10.5° 
    Adams Tight Lies2 5W 19°
    Callaway 3h 20°
    Ping Eye2 BeCu 4 iron 
    Ping G20 5-W, U, S, L
    Ping Darby
  • maverick1stmaverick1st  51Members Posts: 51
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    cvhookem63 wrote:

    kro88 wrote:


    Saw on twitter that Ricky is switching to TM ball




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    He's no longer listed on titleist.com as a ball player...
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    Callaway Rouge SZ 9* EvenFlow Blue 6.0 65g
    Callaway Rouge 15* EvenFlow Blue 6.0 75g
    Callaway Rouge 3H 19* EvenFlow Blue 6.0 85g
    Titleist 716 T-MB 3-4 KBS Tour
    Titleist 716 AP2 5-PW KBS Tour
    Titleist Vokey SM7 53* S Grind KBS $ Taper
    Titleist Vokey SM7 58* D Grind KBS $ Taper
    Scotty Cameron ButtonBack NP2
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    cvhookem63 wrote:

    kro88 wrote:


    Saw on twitter that Ricky is switching to TM ball




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    He's no longer listed on titleist.com as a ball player...




    Thanks for clarification.
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  • kro88kro88  189Members Posts: 189
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    PhilWhitUK wrote:


    They must be assuming Rose will drive sales in the USA as you cannot order from the Bonobos Website in Europe....strange as I would have thought the market segment Rose influences would be business men in UK rather than kids who want to be Ricky or DJ....




    he is wearing Morgan Stanley. Everyone on the Sell side wears Bonobos. He's appealing to the Wall Street golfer

    DRRicks wrote:


    cvhookem63 wrote:

    kro88 wrote:


    Saw on twitter that Ricky is switching to TM ball




    gOeCuXT.png




    He's no longer listed on titleist.com as a ball player...




    Thanks for clarification.




    nice find - so twitter was right... shocker!
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    Bag of tricks - in Mackenzie Walker
    Driver: Ping G40 Max 10.5 w/Fuji Speeder 661 Evo IV X
    Wood: Titleist 913 F2 19 w/Diamana S+ Blue 72s - setting C1 | Titleist 975f 20.5 w/ Grafalloy ProLite S Flex
    Irons: Miura 1957 Baby Blades w/Nippon Modus 120 Stiff 4-PW std lie
    Wedges: Titleist Vokey Sm7 50 - 2 flt - 1 wk w/KBS 610 | Vokey Design V grind oil can 54 - 2 flt -1 wk w/KBS 610 | Titleist Vokey Design Low Bounc K oil can 60 -2 flt w/KBS Hi-rev | Taylormade Hi-Toe 64 w/KBS Hi-Rev
    Putter: Mizuno TPM3 33.5 Inches - SS 3.0 grip
    Ball: Titleist Pro-V1
  • lc1342lc1342  285Members Posts: 285
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    Will Dufner be staying a free agent?
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  • AG12AG12  1419Members Posts: 1,419
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    Kevin Tway to Titleist?
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    Titleist TS2 15* Tensei Pro White 70S
    Titleist TS2 21* Tensei AV Blue 70HYS
    TaylorMade P790 '19 4-PW Project X LZ 120
    PING Glide 3.0 50/SS 54/SS DG S200
    TaylorMade Hi-Toe 58*/ATV KBS Hi-Rev 2.0 
    TaylorMade Spider X Navy 
    Titleist ProV1x #27
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  • CStephenson17CStephenson17  676ClubWRX Posts: 676
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    Kevin Tway to Titleist?




    No just playing woods and wedges. Still has mizuno irons
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  • Puttfordough91Puttfordough91  117Banned Posts: 117
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    Kevin Tway to Titleist?




    No just playing woods and wedges. Still has mizuno irons


    On tv saw his name on a Titleist bag so must have some sort of deal with them
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    TBD
    Tour issue 2017 m2 tour shaft tbd
    Nike vapor fly pro 3 fuji pro 115 ts
    4-9 jpx 919 tour c taper x
    Vokey 48 52 56 60 kbs c taper/hi rev
    Scotty buttonback newport 2
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  • williamsnrbwilliamsnrb The Golf Doctor Broken Arrow, OK 1654Members Posts: 1,654
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    Oaks wrote:

    Honman wrote:


    There is a rumour floating around of Justin Rose moving to Honma




    Might make sense with Mark King running Honma NA and they were rumored to be making a push onto Tour




    Wow... This post was before its time! Well done.
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    917D3 9.5 Rogue Black
    917F3 15 Diamana Blue
    818H2 19 Tensei Blue
    Mizuno MP14 2
    Mizuno MP4 4-9
    Vokey SM7 46, 50, 54, 58
    Edel 60
    (will swap 58 for 60 and a Vokey for the 2-iron as needed)
    Custom Scotty Newport 2
    or
    Scotty X5R
  • CStephenson17CStephenson17  676ClubWRX Posts: 676
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    Kevin Tway to Titleist?




    No just playing woods and wedges. Still has mizuno irons


    On tv saw his name on a Titleist bag so must have some sort of deal with them




    Ball, woods, wedges, bag, glove deal
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  • yourhonoryourhonoryourhonoryourhonor  466Members Posts: 466
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    noodle3872 wrote:


    collindm1 wrote:

    noodle3872 wrote:


    And Toulon putter!




    Molinari? Isn't he a brand ambassador for Bettinardi?




    He signed with them this past season.



    Don't know how long contract is: [url="https://www.pgatour.com/equipmentreport/2017/12/21/bettinardi-golf-signs-francesco-molinari-putter-deal.html"]https://www.pgatour....utter-deal.html[/url]




    Guess the Betti deal is done now and he's full bag Callaway and Odyssey Toulon. Golf ball is the wild card.




    Molinari is proof that these guys value money over success and what "works".



    Cannot believe he is switching anything after having the year he just had...



    - Josh




    Obviously there are tour players who choose money over preferred equipment. I don’t believe that the top players are switching for money alone. They go through equipment and swing changes to get better.
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  • iBanestoiBanesto Niclas Fasth  4600Members Posts: 4,600
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    Molinari using Callaway and Odyssey.



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