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  • TherealpatgilesTherealpatgiles Advanced Members Posts: 254 ✭✭
    larciel wrote:

    Hedgehog wrote:

    larciel wrote:


    but the crown of m5 already cracked. wtf?


    That's the 1st one I have heard of, all other have broken on the bottom, the carbon-fiber flap. Where on the crown did yours brake? Can you show a pic?


    Looks like a flaw from when it was removed from the mold. Bubble in the resin and that is what happens.
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    Epon af901 19 modus 120
    Nike vapor pro combo 3 iron
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    Epon tour 50 55 60 modus w
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  • jambox107jambox107 Members Posts: 62 ✭✭
    How do these compare to m1 and m2?
  • cybertigermancybertigerman Members Posts: 68 ✭✭
    jambox107 wrote:


    How do these compare to m1 and m2?




    Slightly longer than my M1 (which I loved!), but not a whole lot, definitely the main gain for me is the forgiveness. Slight miss hits don't lose as much. And that to me is far more important.



    I also adored the look of the M1/M2.. but an M5 with a white Oban might just be the best looking club I've ever owned.
  • TilikumTilikum Advanced Members Posts: 183
    I looked at the driving distance there for Rory, Dustin, Day (can’t remember who else) & they all seem to have lost a few yards from last years driving stats. 2019 vs 2018. M5 vs M3/M4.







    Probably means shag all so early on in the year.
  • ValtielValtiel Konica-Minolta Bizhub Advanced Members Posts: 1,777 ✭✭
    Tilikum wrote:


    I looked at the driving distance there for Rory, Dustin, Day (can't remember who else) & they all seem to have lost a few yards from last years driving stats. 2019 vs 2018. M5 vs M3/M4.







    Probably means shag all so early on in the year.




    There was also a freezing cold tournament where they were "bombing it" 280. Although I guess the WGC Mexico balances that out with the same drives going 360, hah.



    At the end of the year we will likely find that the numbers are pretty similar.
    [font=trebuchet ms,helvetica,sans-serif]taylormade_small_logo_blk.png M1 430 8.5* Tensei Pro Orange V2 70TX || ksfSEag.png 915D3 8.5* Diamana Kai'li 80x
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  • sbjinxsbjinx Advanced Members Posts: 2,355 ✭✭
    Valtiel wrote:

    Tilikum wrote:


    I looked at the driving distance there for Rory, Dustin, Day (can't remember who else) & they all seem to have lost a few yards from last years driving stats. 2019 vs 2018. M5 vs M3/M4.







    Probably means shag all so early on in the year.




    There was also a freezing cold tournament where they were "bombing it" 280. Although I guess the WGC Mexico balances that out with the same drives going 360, hah.



    At the end of the year we will likely find that the numbers are pretty similar.




    I didn’t find the magical 10 yards but I’m hitting it straighter and my mishits are way better compared to my ‘16 M2.



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  • Natural1Natural1 Advanced Members Posts: 86 ✭✭
    edited March 10
    jambox107 wrote:


    How do these compare to m1 and m2?


    For me the 2017 M1 is a better looking club, and the M5 feels better with a little less spin overall. Dispersion about the same for me.

    M5 is definitely a bit more forgiving in terms of ball speed/distance, especially on thin misses.

    Vs M1 the M5 also seems to go better off a center strike. The M1 spun a little too much on a center strike but was phenomenal with a slightly high strike. For me, the M5 seems to go about the same (as the M1 hit high) whether hit center or a little high.

    Overall I consider it a nice improvement over the M1. Not really any longer but definitely more consistent.
  • kcsfkcsf Advanced Members Posts: 993 ✭✭
    If anyone has experience with the M5/M6 and Ping LST I'd love to hear your comparative thoughts. I'm really happy with the LST, but the ho in me wants a new driver.
    G400 Green Mamba 60TX
    Taylormade M2 Tour HL 3w Green Mamba
    Ping i500 irons
    Edel 50* & 56* wedges
    O-Works #7s red
  • Kale_mKale_m Advanced Members Posts: 1,630 ✭✭
    kcsf wrote:


    If anyone has experience with the M5/M6 and Ping LST I'd love to hear your comparative thoughts. I'm really happy with the LST, but the ho in me wants a new driver.




    Hit my G400 lst agaisnt the m5 and m6 with the same shaft (PO70tx)



    M5/m6 spun a little less. Launched a bit lower



    G400 spun a bit more and launched a touch higher.



    Both were about the same distance



    Like the look of the m5/m6



    Ballspeeds were nigher with the m6 for me then the m5.
    Taylormade M4 9.5 (set to 7.5) Tensei Pro Orange 70tx
    3w — undecided
    Taylormade 790 UDI 2 iron Tensei Pro White 90tx
    Callaway Apex MB Raw TIX100
    Tm milled grind 52/56
    Tm hi toe 60
    Tm spider x 35” navy with true path alignment
  • eebombeebomb Advanced Members Posts: 531 ✭✭
    sbjinx wrote:

    Valtiel wrote:

    Tilikum wrote:


    I looked at the driving distance there for Rory, Dustin, Day (can't remember who else) & they all seem to have lost a few yards from last years driving stats. 2019 vs 2018. M5 vs M3/M4.







    Probably means shag all so early on in the year.




    There was also a freezing cold tournament where they were "bombing it" 280. Although I guess the WGC Mexico balances that out with the same drives going 360, hah.



    At the end of the year we will likely find that the numbers are pretty similar.




    I didn’t find the magical 10 yards but I’m hitting it straighter and my mishits are way better compared to my ‘16 M2.
    what's ball flight comparison m6 and M2? Similar higher lower?
  • sbjinxsbjinx Advanced Members Posts: 2,355 ✭✭
    eebomb wrote:

    sbjinx wrote:

    Valtiel wrote:

    Tilikum wrote:


    I looked at the driving distance there for Rory, Dustin, Day (can't remember who else) & they all seem to have lost a few yards from last years driving stats. 2019 vs 2018. M5 vs M3/M4.







    Probably means shag all so early on in the year.




    There was also a freezing cold tournament where they were "bombing it" 280. Although I guess the WGC Mexico balances that out with the same drives going 360, hah.



    At the end of the year we will likely find that the numbers are pretty similar.




    I didn’t find the magical 10 yards but I’m hitting it straighter and my mishits are way better compared to my ‘16 M2.
    what's ball flight comparison m6 and M2? Similar higher lower?




    Higher. One of the main struggles I had with the M2 was not getting enough height and I don’t have that issue with the M5. Actually I wish I got the 9.5 in the M5 vs going 10.5.
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    Vokey SM7 - 52*F / 58*D
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  • taylorx300taylorx300 Advanced Members Posts: 1,246 ✭✭
    M5 is only 9* not 9.5 this yesr
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    M4 16.5* / Hzrdus Black
    M4 Hybrid 19* / KBS Prototype
    P-770 / Project X LZ 6.0
    52* / 58* Black Milled Grind Wedge / KBS Custom
    59* Original Trusty Rusty / Hump shaft
    60* Raw Milled Grind Wedge / KBS Custom
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  • BookerBooker Advanced Members Posts: 713 ✭✭
    Ive had several 16m2 heads and all of them had a lower actual loft than was stated. My t.i. head was as well. I Don't know if this was the trend or not in 16. The m5 U tested last week seemed to launch high to loft.
  • eebombeebomb Advanced Members Posts: 531 ✭✭
    Just trying to figure what loft to go in m6. I wish it was like M2 where it was 9.5. My M2 is 9.5 and like my ball flight so having a tuff time deciding between the 10.5 and 9
  • edryer3edryer3 Advanced Members Posts: 993 ✭✭
    eebomb wrote:


    Just trying to figure what loft to go in m6. I wish it was like M2 where it was 9.5. My M2 is 9.5 and like my ball flight so having a tuff time deciding between the 10.5 and 9




    I had the 2016 M2 9.5 tour head and switched to the M6 9deg. To me the launch on the M6 is just about the same or a touch higher. And spun less. Glad I made the switch!
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    TM M5 15deg w/ Tensei Pro White 80TX
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    TM P790 4i w/ Nippon 125X
    Srixon 765 5-PW w/ Nippon 125X
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  • AutomaticTwoDownAutomaticTwoDown Two down after two, time to get to work Advanced Members Posts: 431 ✭✭
    noodle3872 wrote:

    Micrys2 wrote:


    So clear up a bit of confusion for me. If you have a head at 239, and one at the max 257, how much additional benefit is that to the average golfer?



    Sorry if this has already been ask, but is the average 100 mph guy going to see anything dramatic?? Would be surprised if so.




    1 yard


    Carry or total?
  • noodle3872noodle3872 Chilliwack B.C. CanadaAdvanced Members Posts: 2,555 ✭✭

    noodle3872 wrote:

    Micrys2 wrote:


    So clear up a bit of confusion for me. If you have a head at 239, and one at the max 257, how much additional benefit is that to the average golfer?



    Sorry if this has already been ask, but is the average 100 mph guy going to see anything dramatic?? Would be surprised if so.




    1 yard


    Carry or total?




    Carry is king.
    Taylormade M6 driver with MCA Tensei CK Pro White 60 S Flex
    Taylormade M6 fairway wood with MCA Tensei CK Pro Blue 70 S Flex
    Taylormade M4 hybrid with MCA OT Tour Hybrid 80 S Flex
    Mizuno MP 18 MMC irons 5-PW Irons with Modus3 Tour 105 S flex
    Mizuno S18 Gunmetal Wedges 50-07, 54-12, 58-08 and 62-08 with Modus3 105 Wedge
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    Titleist Pro V1
  • noodle3872noodle3872 Chilliwack B.C. CanadaAdvanced Members Posts: 2,555 ✭✭
    edryer3 wrote:

    eebomb wrote:


    Just trying to figure what loft to go in m6. I wish it was like M2 where it was 9.5. My M2 is 9.5 and like my ball flight so having a tuff time deciding between the 10.5 and 9




    I had the 2016 M2 9.5 tour head and switched to the M6 9deg. To me the launch on the M6 is just about the same or a touch higher. And spun less. Glad I made the switch!




    This is why I buy clubs from a fitter that can accurately measure loft. Takes a lot of guess work out of things. My M4 is 10.5°. It launches @ 15° and spins @ 2400 rpm. When testing I can gauge whether to go up or down in loft in a particular head depending on how it launches and spins. For instance, the M6 in measured 9° launched fine but was too low in spin. The 10.5° M6 launched a 1° higher than my M4 but had 2100 rpm of spin. This played out the same over multiple tests so I went M6 10.5°. Couldn’t be happier with it!
    Taylormade M6 driver with MCA Tensei CK Pro White 60 S Flex
    Taylormade M6 fairway wood with MCA Tensei CK Pro Blue 70 S Flex
    Taylormade M4 hybrid with MCA OT Tour Hybrid 80 S Flex
    Mizuno MP 18 MMC irons 5-PW Irons with Modus3 Tour 105 S flex
    Mizuno S18 Gunmetal Wedges 50-07, 54-12, 58-08 and 62-08 with Modus3 105 Wedge
    Scotty Cameron Futura 7M
    Scotty Cameron Select Fastback 2
    Titleist Pro V1
  • FlyOverFlyOver Advanced Members Posts: 280 ✭✭
    kcsf wrote:


    If anyone has experience with the M5/M6 and Ping LST I'd love to hear your comparative thoughts. I'm really happy with the LST, but the ho in me wants a new driver.




    I have the M6 and the Ping G400 LST both same length, same head weight (hot melted the M6) and same Evenflow Black HC stiff shaft 6.0 65 grams.



    Ping slightly more forgiving with a higher launch, but the M6 is longer for me, because it has a more penetrating flight due to less spin thus rolls more.
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    Callaway Epic Flash Sub Zero 13.5 degree-Tensei Blue AV stiff shaft
    Titleist 818 H2 Hybrid-Tensei Blue stiff 19*
    Honma TW 747v forged 4-10 irons-Modus 105 stiff shafts
    Titleist Vokey SM6 50* F Grind
    Mack Daddy 4 54* C Grind
    Callaway PM Grind 58* C Grind
    Titleist Scotty Cameron Studio Select Newport modified center shaft putter
    Titleist yellow AVX ball
  • ValtielValtiel Konica-Minolta Bizhub Advanced Members Posts: 1,777 ✭✭
    Natural1 wrote:

    jambox107 wrote:


    How do these compare to m1 and m2?


    For me the 2017 M1 is a better looking club, and the M5 feels better with a little less spin overall. Dispersion about the same for me.

    M5 is definitely a bit more forgiving in terms of ball speed/distance, especially on thin misses.

    Vs M1 the M5 also seems to go better off a center strike. The M1 spun a little too much on a center strike but was phenomenal with a slightly high strike. For me, the M5 seems to go about the same (as the M1 hit high) whether hit center or a little high.

    Overall I consider it a nice improvement over the M1. Not really any longer but definitely more consistent.




    If all the variables are equal, truly center strikes will be the same because it is impossible for them not to be. Most of the time what people think are center strikes are actually low because no driver has a sweetspot that is truly in the middle if the face, they are all slightly higher.
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    SYalW6s.png XHot 3Deep Pro 14.5* Fujikura Motore VC 8.3 Tour Spec X [/font]| | lfBLyra.png [font=trebuchet ms,helvetica,sans-serif]SQ2 13* Diamana [/font][font=trebuchet ms,helvetica,sans-serif]Blueboard 83x[/font]
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  • HedgehogHedgehog Advanced Members Posts: 300 ✭✭
    kcsf wrote:


    If anyone has experience with the M5/M6 and Ping LST I'd love to hear your comparative thoughts. I'm really happy with the LST, but the ho in me wants a new driver.




    TXG test the M5/M6 against the G400 LST. Not a huge difference, as expected..



    The G400lst is like the best fit they can have for Matt, while they tell the M5/M6 demo matrix is still missing heads for them to do a proper fitting. So they might re-visit later and do a proper fitting for the TM heads.



    [media]





    They must have some type of special adapters there at TXG to get the 10,5° heads to sit 1 degree open and at loft of 10°. That's no possible with the TM adapter.
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    TM M6 15° HZRDUS Smoke 6.5
    TM Rescue AD DI H 85X
    Ping iBlade 4-PW Modus3 105S
    RTX2.0 50°/54°
    RTX4 60°
    Scotty Cameron '18 Select Fastback
    Srixon Z-Star XV
  • Natural1Natural1 Advanced Members Posts: 86 ✭✭
    edited March 11
    Valtiel wrote:

    Natural1 wrote:

    jambox107 wrote:


    How do these compare to m1 and m2?


    For me the 2017 M1 is a better looking club, and the M5 feels better with a little less spin overall. Dispersion about the same for me.

    M5 is definitely a bit more forgiving in terms of ball speed/distance, especially on thin misses.

    Vs M1 the M5 also seems to go better off a center strike. The M1 spun a little too much on a center strike but was phenomenal with a slightly high strike. For me, the M5 seems to go about the same (as the M1 hit high) whether hit center or a little high.

    Overall I consider it a nice improvement over the M1. Not really any longer but definitely more consistent.




    If all the variables are equal, truly center strikes will be the same because it is impossible for them not to be. Most of the time what people think are center strikes are actually low because no driver has a sweetspot that is truly in the middle if the face, they are all slightly higher.




    What I'm talking about there (center strike) is the shot that feels 100% solid, wherever that point actually is on the face (not based on measurements). It probably is just high of the real center, but for me that shot spins more with the M1 than the M5.



    With the M1, the shot where I think "oh man I killed that!" doesn't provide the distance (particularly in terms of rollout) that the M5 does with the same feeling. To get the most out of the M1 I have to generate a slight high mis-hit that definitely doesn't feel great. Both are 10.5 heads set at 11.25 and of course manufacturing tolerance also means they aren't actually the same. And of course my delivery isn't the same as anyone else either.
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  • HedgehogHedgehog Advanced Members Posts: 300 ✭✭
    Anyone got a clue why I can swing my M4 D-Type 9,5° head 6 miles faster on average than the M6 9°? Same shaft and same head weight.



    Could it be CG location affecting the swing weight? Better aerodynamics on M4? Or the way TrackMan calculates club head speed?
    TM M6 9° GD AD DI 6x
    TM M6 15° HZRDUS Smoke 6.5
    TM Rescue AD DI H 85X
    Ping iBlade 4-PW Modus3 105S
    RTX2.0 50°/54°
    RTX4 60°
    Scotty Cameron '18 Select Fastback
    Srixon Z-Star XV
  • LemondeLemonde Advanced Members Posts: 727 ✭✭
    Wanted. An M5 Tour order that is not “Being Processed” as the status on the TM Canadian website. Order date was Feb 26. Anyone else stuck in limbo? Non custom order. Can’t be too hard.



    Thinking of cancelling the order altogether.
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    Driver - TM M5 Tour 435 10.5 Tensei Orange X (ON ORDER)
    Fairway - Ping G410 14.5 Project X Evenflow Black 85 6.5 (ON ORDER)
    Hybrid - TM M6 19 Hzrdus Black 6.5
    Irons - W/S C300 Forged 5-GW KBS Tour V XStiff
    Wedge - Mizuno S18 56
    Wedge - TM Hi Toe 58
    Putter - Rife Phenom.Z 34”
  • bladehunterbladehunter Today was a good day.... Advanced Members Posts: 24,232 ✭✭
    edited March 12
    Lemonde wrote:


    Wanted. An M5 Tour order that is not “Being Processed” as the status on the TM Canadian website. Order date was Feb 26. Anyone else stuck in limbo? Non custom order. Can’t be too hard.



    Thinking of cancelling the order altogether.




    There’s a head on the bst.



    http://www.golfwrx.com/forums/topic/1755840-taylor-made-m5-tour-105-new-in-plastic-head-only/page__pid__18783802#entry18783802
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    Ping i500 pre-production proto 3 iron Graphite Design AD DI 105X
    Ping i500 4-pw Modus 130X
    Ping Glide Forged 50 54 60 S400
    Cameron GSS 009 1.5 tungsten sole weights, sound slot
  • swizbeatzswizbeatz Advanced Members Posts: 5,579 ✭✭
    Hedgehog wrote:


    Anyone got a clue why I can swing my M4 D-Type 9,5° head 6 miles faster on average than the M6 9°? Same shaft and same head weight.



    Could it be CG location affecting the swing weight? Better aerodynamics on M4? Or the way TrackMan calculates club head speed?




    Ball speed is similar? My guess is a bad calculation.
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  • Kale_mKale_m Advanced Members Posts: 1,630 ✭✭
    swizbeatz wrote:

    Hedgehog wrote:


    Anyone got a clue why I can swing my M4 D-Type 9,5° head 6 miles faster on average than the M6 9°? Same shaft and same head weight.



    Could it be CG location affecting the swing weight? Better aerodynamics on M4? Or the way TrackMan calculates club head speed?




    Ball speed is similar? My guess is a bad calculation.




    Maybe it has trouble with the mate finish and tracking it?
    Taylormade M4 9.5 (set to 7.5) Tensei Pro Orange 70tx
    3w — undecided
    Taylormade 790 UDI 2 iron Tensei Pro White 90tx
    Callaway Apex MB Raw TIX100
    Tm milled grind 52/56
    Tm hi toe 60
    Tm spider x 35” navy with true path alignment
  • HedgehogHedgehog Advanced Members Posts: 300 ✭✭
    swizbeatz wrote:

    Hedgehog wrote:


    Anyone got a clue why I can swing my M4 D-Type 9,5° head 6 miles faster on average than the M6 9°? Same shaft and same head weight.



    Could it be CG location affecting the swing weight? Better aerodynamics on M4? Or the way TrackMan calculates club head speed?




    Ball speed is similar? My guess is a bad calculation.




    Ball Speed is pretty similar, only 1 mile in between them. I have always trusted TrckMan to get the clubhead speed correct, anyone know hoe does TrackMan actually calculate clubhead speed?



    TM M6 9° GD AD DI 6x
    TM M6 15° HZRDUS Smoke 6.5
    TM Rescue AD DI H 85X
    Ping iBlade 4-PW Modus3 105S
    RTX2.0 50°/54°
    RTX4 60°
    Scotty Cameron '18 Select Fastback
    Srixon Z-Star XV
  • Kale_mKale_m Advanced Members Posts: 1,630 ✭✭
    Hedgehog wrote:

    swizbeatz wrote:

    Hedgehog wrote:


    Anyone got a clue why I can swing my M4 D-Type 9,5° head 6 miles faster on average than the M6 9°? Same shaft and same head weight.



    Could it be CG location affecting the swing weight? Better aerodynamics on M4? Or the way TrackMan calculates club head speed?




    Ball speed is similar? My guess is a bad calculation.




    Ball Speed is pretty similar, only 1 mile in between them. I have always trusted TrckMan to get the clubhead speed correct, anyone know hoe does TrackMan actually calculate clubhead speed?







    Track man is known to be slow on CHS. Just the way it measures it from behind the ball
    Taylormade M4 9.5 (set to 7.5) Tensei Pro Orange 70tx
    3w — undecided
    Taylormade 790 UDI 2 iron Tensei Pro White 90tx
    Callaway Apex MB Raw TIX100
    Tm milled grind 52/56
    Tm hi toe 60
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  • bladehunterbladehunter Today was a good day.... Advanced Members Posts: 24,232 ✭✭
    Rest of your numbers are better with m6. Has to be a misread or either you’re middling the m6 and just not swinging quite as hard ? Does it feel slower ? ( not that means anything. Just curious )
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  • HedgehogHedgehog Advanced Members Posts: 300 ✭✭


    Rest of your numbers are better with m6. Has to be a misread or either you're middling the m6 and just not swinging quite as hard ? Does it feel slower ? ( not that means anything. Just curious )




    I was at least trying to swing the same with both, that said the M4 actually felt just a little easier to swing fast, I even altered turns to see if I was just warming up but nah, same effect. That's what let me to think the CG locations could be effecting the SW?



    I do have a thought about closure rate affecting the readings: Ryan Barath explains in this video how TrackMan is reading the toe, and as I understand the toe moves faster in the M4 D-Type since the CG is located in the heel. As opposed to a normal M6 that has the weight low and back of the head. Maybe this is it?





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  • swizbeatzswizbeatz Advanced Members Posts: 5,579 ✭✭
    Hedgehog wrote:

    swizbeatz wrote:

    Hedgehog wrote:


    Anyone got a clue why I can swing my M4 D-Type 9,5° head 6 miles faster on average than the M6 9°? Same shaft and same head weight.



    Could it be CG location affecting the swing weight? Better aerodynamics on M4? Or the way TrackMan calculates club head speed?




    Ball speed is similar? My guess is a bad calculation.




    Ball Speed is pretty similar, only 1 mile in between them. I have always trusted TrckMan to get the clubhead speed correct, anyone know hoe does TrackMan actually calculate clubhead speed?







    I don’t believe CG is going to change the reading. There are a number of posts including by TollBros who’s opinion I really trust to ignore swing speed and just look at ball speed. Trackman is notorious for misreading some CHS.
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  • TheSphynxTheSphynx i got warned for saying a bad word Advanced Members Posts: 1,410 ✭✭
    edited March 12
    The eagle finally landed for me.



    Looks like they got rid of the overhanging piece of carbon, so everyone who was complaining about everyone breaking the piece with their fat driver shots won’t have to have their heads explode anymore...





  • Natural1Natural1 Advanced Members Posts: 86 ✭✭
    Interesting... definitely changed. The pic on the TM site still shows the overhang on the Tour head.
  • t4t3rt4t3r Advanced Members Posts: 2,587 ✭✭
    Definitely looks different than the regular M5 and other M5 Tour photos that have been out (the Golfwrx ones that were posted in January for example). Much cleaner look regardless of any issues. I wonder if we’ll see a revamped M5 version.
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  • TheSphynxTheSphynx i got warned for saying a bad word Advanced Members Posts: 1,410 ✭✭
    t4t3r wrote:
    Definitely looks different than the regular M5 and other M5 Tour photos that have been out (the Golfwrx ones that were posted in January for example). Much cleaner look regardless of any issues. I wonder if we’ll see a revamped M5 version.




    Agreed. All cracking aside, the overhanging piece looks dumb to me.
  • Natural1Natural1 Advanced Members Posts: 86 ✭✭
    Same here. I can't figure out why they designed it with that overhang in the first place.



    To a certain extent I hope they don't "fix" the regular M5. Mine was a pre-order and I've had no issues yet, and probably never will. But if they release a V2, those of us with V1 heads will be at a major disadvantage in terms of used sale / trade pricing.
  • gioguy21gioguy21 Habitual Line Stepper Advanced Members Posts: 6,864 ✭✭
    i'm currently saving up for an M5 (non-tour) tour issue head -- folks i've talked to said they're real-deal with regards to ballspeed, higher launch and lower spin. despite the flap issue - these drivers are incredibly solid.
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  • PatsNationPatsNation Advanced Members Posts: 1,484 ✭✭
    TheSphynx wrote:


    The eagle finally landed for me.



    Looks like they got rid of the overhanging piece of carbon, so everyone who was complaining about everyone breaking the piece with their fat driver shots won’t have to have their heads explode anymore...





    Sweet since they may have solved the problem-Back on my radar to try this spring
  • HedgehogHedgehog Advanced Members Posts: 300 ✭✭
    Natural1 wrote:


    Same here. I can't figure out why they designed it with that overhang in the first place.



    To a certain extent I hope they don't "fix" the regular M5. Mine was a pre-order and I've had no issues yet, and probably never will. But if they release a V2, those of us with V1 heads will be at a major disadvantage in terms of used sale / trade pricing.
    I see no reason they wouldn't "fix" the normal also now, it's clearly a flaw in the design originally..



    I assume if you break the current M5 you have, they will replace it with a flap -less version.
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  • LemondeLemonde Advanced Members Posts: 727 ✭✭
    TheSphynx wrote:


    The eagle finally landed for me.



    Looks like they got rid of the overhanging piece of carbon, so everyone who was complaining about everyone breaking the piece with their fat driver shots won’t have to have their heads explode anymore...









    It doesn’t look properly fixed though. Note the slim metal border between the carbon and the slot on the heel side. A proper fix would have the same on the toe side.
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  • LemondeLemonde Advanced Members Posts: 727 ✭✭
    Natural1 wrote:


    Same here. I can't figure out why they designed it with that overhang in the first place.



    To a certain extent I hope they don't "fix" the regular M5. Mine was a pre-order and I've had no issues yet, and probably never will. But if they release a V2, those of us with V1 heads will be at a major disadvantage in terms of used sale / trade pricing.




    I doubt it, how many ebayers or common folk are members of golf forums? They’ll see some wear and still purchase it, especially given my comment on the last post, that metal trim needs to be between the slot and the carbon otherwise tee issues will persist.
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  • Josh RJosh R Members Posts: 27 ✭✭
    TheSphynx wrote:


    The eagle finally landed for me.



    Looks like they got rid of the overhanging piece of carbon, so everyone who was complaining about everyone breaking the piece with their fat driver shots won’t have to have their heads explode anymore...









    I picked mine up yesterday. I can't wait for the snow to melt now...
  • scott_Donaldscott_Donald Advanced Members Posts: 2,213 ✭✭
    Lemonde wrote:






    It doesn’t look properly fixed though. Note the slim metal border between the carbon and the slot on the heel side. A proper fix would have the same on the toe side.




    almost as if they just shaved the overhang bit and smoothed it off.
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  • tbrumbeloe13tbrumbeloe13 Advanced Members Posts: 669 ✭✭
    gioguy21 wrote:


    i'm currently saving up for an M5 (non-tour) tour issue head -- folks i've talked to said they're real-deal with regards to ballspeed, higher launch and lower spin. despite the flap issue - these drivers are incredibly solid.
    Pretty spot on with that. I hit the M5 at my demo day last week, and I couldn't get the spin up. I took the shaft from my '17 M2 and put it into the M5, and it was spinning around 1500 or 1600 on a good hit, where I'm normally around 2200 or so. Obviously a shaft won't work every time in each head, but I tried a handful of shafts that I thought would fit me, and I still couldn't get to where I felt comfortable hitting it. It felt great, launched high, but I couldn't trust it on the course with such low spin.
  • Jbehan20Jbehan20 Members Posts: 2
    Quick question for anyone who owns an M5, and bear with me if this has already been discussed, but does anyone else have a pin sized hole in the dead center of the club face? Is this part of the design? Club works great and have had no issues, just interested in the purpose.
  • Kale_mKale_m Advanced Members Posts: 1,630 ✭✭
    Jbehan20 wrote:


    Quick question for anyone who owns an M5, and bear with me if this has already been discussed, but does anyone else have a pin sized hole in the dead center of the club face? Is this part of the design? Club works great and have had no issues, just interested in the purpose.




    A hole? Don’t think that is supposed to be there.. got a pic?
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  • HedgehogHedgehog Advanced Members Posts: 300 ✭✭
    Jbehan20 wrote:


    Quick question for anyone who owns an M5, and bear with me if this has already been discussed, but does anyone else have a pin sized hole in the dead center of the club face? Is this part of the design? Club works great and have had no issues, just interested in the purpose.
    Yeah it's in all the drivers, M5 & M6. Don't know the purpose..
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  • HedgehogHedgehog Advanced Members Posts: 300 ✭✭
    Golf Monthly did a test between the made for shafts in the M6, not that much different, Smoke came out on top for 114 and 103 speeds for distance:



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  • jll62jll62 ClubWRX Charter Members Posts: 1,966 ClubWRX
    Kale_m wrote:

    Jbehan20 wrote:


    Quick question for anyone who owns an M5, and bear with me if this has already been discussed, but does anyone else have a pin sized hole in the dead center of the club face? Is this part of the design? Club works great and have had no issues, just interested in the purpose.




    A hole? Don't think that is supposed to be there.. got a pic?




    TM driver faces have had this pinhole going a long way back. I don't know the exact purpose (i.e, a design feature or production artifact), but it's normal.
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