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Crazy rumor of the day: Justin Rose to Honma?

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  • kyle75kyle75  714WRX Points: 70Members Posts: 714
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    Lancj1 wrote:


    Just watching the WGC from Shanghai - Justin Rose just hit the top of the leaderboard (recorded so not sure how day three ends). It strikes me that TM would be completely crazy to dump him. They have just gone through his stats - he’s one of the greatest on the planet and frankly puts Rory in a box. He’s just won the Fedex. Maybe something about what Rory might yet do ? Strange old world.
    If they are parting ways, I imagine having Tiger Woods on staff with his game back is a potential game changer for TM.
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  • Ed SettleEd Settle #InsideTMAG  6054WRX Points: 169ClubWRX Posts: 6,054
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    spdrcrx wrote:


    I can see it - No one thought Sergio would switch, he was the face of TM




    His tie was stronger to Adidas and when Adidas/TM split, he was just one of the first dominos. I think this is a continuation of that. It’s nice to have a poster with five or six guys in the top 10 but you can’t keep them all
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  • SASpeederSASpeeder SASpeeder  86WRX Points: 11Members Posts: 86
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    This may be a contentious point of view but if TM are going to off load anyone then I think they should keep Rose and off load Rahm (in terms of moving the marketing needle). Rose has certainly been more visible than Rahm this past season. Just my 2 cents worth...
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  • HonmanHonman  1035WRX Points: 56Members Posts: 1,035
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    SASpeeder wrote:


    This may be a contentious point of view but if TM are going to off load anyone then I think they should keep Rose and off load Rahm (in terms of moving the marketing needle). Rose has certainly been more visible than Rahm this past season. Just my 2 cents worth...




    Rose is getting on, and Rahm is young and full of potential. This is probably the right move longterm for TM. Probably for Rose too, as he will become the focal point of a brand which would never happen with any other brand. And if it is an iron only deal, I don't think he will skip a beat making a switch from one blade to another.
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  • tgtaggietgtaggie  2060WRX Points: 238Members Posts: 2,060
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    Rose is no different for me than Koepka, they should both move the needle, but either their team or their club sponsor has literally no idea how to brand and market them.




    I agree. And I find this funny bc Rose’s agent is Mark Steinberg
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  • Holy MosesHoly Moses  10712WRX Points: 580Members Posts: 10,712
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    SASpeeder wrote:


    This may be a contentious point of view but if TM are going to off load anyone then I think they should keep Rose and off load Rahm (in terms of moving the marketing needle). Rose has certainly been more visible than Rahm this past season. Just my 2 cents worth...




    You sign players not based on what they have done, but what you expect them to do moving forward. I’d sign Rahm.
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  • Hawkeye77Hawkeye77 Iowa 19260WRX Points: 3,242ClubWRX Posts: 19,260
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    Rose is no different for me than Koepka, they should both move the needle, but either their team or their club sponsor has literally no idea how to brand and market them.




    Well ---- no, actually.



    Their "team" or sponsors have a little bit of knowledge about marketing them vs. yours.



    You can't magically turn them into something they aren't.



    Pretty sure they are happy with the millions they are making, so you also can't turn them into something they don't really want to be or can't be.



    Thus endeth the lesson.
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  • GolfChannelGolfChannel Orlando, Florida 2290WRX Points: 612Members Posts: 2,290
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    You should have stopped at the “little bit of knowledge”, that part was right and also the problem.



    Thus endeth the lesson...
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  • flushemflushem  1900WRX Points: 354Members Posts: 1,900
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    I have always considered Honma as overpriced superhyped clubs. But i recently got tw737 driver and realized how foolish i have been. Honma is superb but totally overlooked club in terms of performance.



    Honma also makes own proprietary shafts for decades. I am confident thst it will make a magical shaft for Rose. As matter of fact, Honma is more known for shafts than club heads.
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  • bladehunterbladehunter Today was a good day... south carolina 28983WRX Points: 5,476Members Posts: 28,983
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    tgtaggie wrote:



    Rose is no different for me than Koepka, they should both move the needle, but either their team or their club sponsor has literally no idea how to brand and market them.




    I agree. And I find this funny bc Rose's agent is Mark Steinberg




    lol..soooo maybe he just doesnt move the needle ?
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  • larciellarciel I play for eagle  2418WRX Points: 249Members Posts: 2,418
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    flushem wrote:


    I have always considered Honma as overpriced superhyped clubs. But i recently got tw737 driver and realized how foolish i have been. Honma is superb but totally overlooked club in terms of performance.



    Honma also makes own proprietary shafts for decades. I am confident thst it will make a magical shaft for Rose. As matter of fact, Honma is more known for shafts than club heads.




    their 3, 4 stars are, imo, overpriced superhyped. but honma do make great shafts with high tech materials.
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  • thesaxemachinethesaxemachine Hello, friends...  446WRX Points: 84Members Posts: 446
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    Hideto Tanihara is a Honma staffer and as of last year didn’t seem to have Honma shafts in his Honma clubs. Not sure why Rose would accept a deal where that was the case.



    http://www.golfwrx.com/forums/topic/1460290-hideto-tanihara-witb-2017-dell-match-play/
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  • HonmanHonman  1035WRX Points: 56Members Posts: 1,035
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    Hideto Tanihara is a Honma staffer and as of last year didn’t seem to have Honma shafts in his Honma clubs. Not sure why Rose would accept a deal where that was the case.



    http://www.golfwrx.com/forums/topic/1460290-hideto-tanihara-witb-2017-dell-match-play/




    Vizard are honma shafts.
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  • theboypinoytheboypinoy  2095WRX Points: 144Members Posts: 2,095
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    Hideto Tanihara is a Honma staffer and as of last year didn't seem to have Honma shafts in his Honma clubs. Not sure why Rose would accept a deal where that was the case.



    http://www.golfwrx.c...ell-match-play/




    As mentioned above, all the Honma clubs had Honma shafts. image/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />
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  • GoGoErkyGoGoErky  2099WRX Points: 597Members Posts: 2,099
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    Rose is no different for me than Koepka, they should both move the needle, but either their team or their club sponsor has literally no idea how to brand and market them.




    Koepka doesn’t care and once he’s off the course he’s in his own world. Rose outside of the UK doesn’t resonate with fans and has a rep for being a ****. On the UK side many bigger names for fans to care about
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  • Holy MosesHoly Moses  10712WRX Points: 580Members Posts: 10,712
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    GoGoErky wrote:



    Rose is no different for me than Koepka, they should both move the needle, but either their team or their club sponsor has literally no idea how to brand and market them.




    Koepka doesn’t care and once he’s off the course he’s in his own world. Rose outside of the UK doesn’t resonate with fans and has a rep for being a ****. On the UK side many bigger names for fans to care about




    Yet Koepka gets mad that the media doesn’t care for him.



    Rose is a ****? First I’ve heard of that.
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  • theboypinoytheboypinoy  2095WRX Points: 144Members Posts: 2,095
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    Holy Moses wrote:

    GoGoErky wrote:



    Rose is no different for me than Koepka, they should both move the needle, but either their team or their club sponsor has literally no idea how to brand and market them.




    Koepka doesn't care and once he's off the course he's in his own world. Rose outside of the UK doesn't resonate with fans and has a rep for being a ****. On the UK side many bigger names for fans to care about




    Yet Koepka gets mad that the media doesn't care for him.



    Rose is a ****? First I've heard of that.




    Me too; haven't heard anything of that sort about Rose.
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  • freowhofreowho  38WRX Points: 17Members Posts: 38
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    jcorna01 wrote:


    I like that their staff player bios list their blood type.


    One of the girls is 5 foot 18!
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  • EricWGolfEricWGolf  706WRX Points: 382Members Posts: 706
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    freowho wrote:

    jcorna01 wrote:


    I like that their staff player bios list their blood type.


    One of the girls is 5 foot 18!




    That’s nothing. Ha-Neul Kim Is 5 foot 63” !



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  • dapartydaparty  32WRX Points: 55Members Posts: 32
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    jcorna01 wrote:


    I like that their staff player bios list their blood type.




    Knowing people's blood types is a really common thing in Japan. (Don't have experience living in other countries in the region, so can't comment about them.). Think of it like when knowing people's constellations was a big thing in the U.S. People like to use blood types to imply that someone will have a certain type of personality or certain characteristics, and it often comes up in conversations, but like horoscopes most people don't take it seriously.
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  • andrieddleandrieddle  1813WRX Points: 93Members Posts: 1,813
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    I'd love for this to happen! Come on Rosey, make it happen, he would still be great with 13 Honma clubs and a customized putter from SC.....
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  • daniel32293daniel32293  482WRX Points: 73Members Posts: 482
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    Remember Rose wasn't at Taylormade's most recent commercial shoot for Taylormade's "Big 5": Woods, McIlroy, Day, Rahm and DJ.
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  • taylorx300taylorx300  1329WRX Points: 186Members Posts: 1,329
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    Rose went to number 1 ( Fedex winner ) and at that point, TM lost the bag and hat deal for next season. He was not part of the 760 launch down in Florida.

    Mark King has had a long relationship with Rose and wants to grow the brand. You will see the changes in Jan 2019.
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  • bladehunterbladehunter Today was a good day... south carolina 28983WRX Points: 5,476Members Posts: 28,983
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    daparty wrote:

    jcorna01 wrote:


    I like that their staff player bios list their blood type.




    Knowing people's blood types is a really common thing in Japan. (Don't have experience living in other countries in the region, so can't comment about them.). Think of it like when knowing people's constellations was a big thing in the U.S. People like to use blood types to imply that someone will have a certain type of personality or certain characteristics, and it often comes up in conversations, but like horoscopes most people don't take it seriously.




    It’s to track those with alien lineage.
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  • GolfChannelGolfChannel Orlando, Florida 2290WRX Points: 612Members Posts: 2,290
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    From the same reliable source I have been told the second “big name” that is already a done deal is Paul Casey and they are trying to secure Molinari as well.
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  • gunmetalgunmetal Idaho 1906WRX Points: 180Members Posts: 1,906
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    GoGoErky wrote:



    Rose is no different for me than Koepka, they should both move the needle, but either their team or their club sponsor has literally no idea how to brand and market them.




    Koepka doesn't care and once he's off the course he's in his own world. Rose outside of the UK doesn't resonate with fans and has a rep for being a ****. On the UK side many bigger names for fans to care about




    Nope.



    Quite the opposite actually.
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  • DRRicksDRRicks  2444WRX Points: 20Banned Posts: 2,444
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    Rose and Casey...decent stable to start your Tour presence with!
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  • elwhippyelwhippy  3325WRX Points: 299Members Posts: 3,325
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    Casey won't sell anything he is not popular on either side of the pond. Excellent player but arrogant. Rose is a bit dull. Very safe. Brilliant player but very mechanical. Honma irons will be as good as anything TM make so no issues.
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  • flushemflushem  1900WRX Points: 354Members Posts: 1,900
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    I heard that Honma was bought by TM. True?



    If so, I could see the strategic shift from TM to Honma.
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  • grm24grm24 Western PA 3899WRX Points: 1,011Members Posts: 3,899
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    flushem wrote:


    I heard that Honma was bought by TM. True?


    No. The former CEO of TM, Mark King, was hired by Homna to be in charge. TM was purchased last year by a private equity firm. TM isn't buying anybody.



    http://www.golfincmagazine.com/content/honma-golf-hires-former-taylormade-chief
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