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Crazy rumor of the day: Justin Rose to Honma?

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  • kyle75kyle75 Members  719WRX Points: 79Posts: 719 Golden Tee
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    Lancj1 wrote:
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    Just watching the WGC from Shanghai - Justin Rose just hit the top of the leaderboard (recorded so not sure how day three ends). It strikes me that TM would be completely crazy to dump him. They have just gone through his stats - he’s one of the greatest on the planet and frankly puts Rory in a box. He’s just won the Fedex. Maybe something about what Rory might yet do ? Strange old world.<br />
    If they are parting ways, I imagine having Tiger Woods on staff with his game back is a potential game changer for TM.
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  • Ed SettleEd Settle #InsideTMAG ClubWRX  6085WRX Points: 209Handicap: 8.7Posts: 6,085 ClubWRX
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    spdrcrx wrote:
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    I can see it - No one thought Sergio would switch, he was the face of TM<br />
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    His tie was stronger to Adidas and when Adidas/TM split, he was just one of the first dominos. I think this is a continuation of that. It’s nice to have a poster with five or six guys in the top 10 but you can’t keep them all
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  • SASpeederSASpeeder SASpeeder Members  86WRX Points: 12Posts: 86 Fairways
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    This may be a contentious point of view but if TM are going to off load anyone then I think they should keep Rose and off load Rahm (in terms of moving the marketing needle). Rose has certainly been more visible than Rahm this past season. Just my 2 cents worth...
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  • HonmanHonman Members  1054WRX Points: 67Handicap: 9Posts: 1,054 Platinum Tees
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    SASpeeder wrote:
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    This may be a contentious point of view but if TM are going to off load anyone then I think they should keep Rose and off load Rahm (in terms of moving the marketing needle). Rose has certainly been more visible than Rahm this past season. Just my 2 cents worth...<br />
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    Rose is getting on, and Rahm is young and full of potential. This is probably the right move longterm for TM. Probably for Rose too, as he will become the focal point of a brand which would never happen with any other brand. And if it is an iron only deal, I don't think he will skip a beat making a switch from one blade to another.
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  • tgtaggietgtaggie Members  2060WRX Points: 238Posts: 2,060 Platinum Tees
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    Rose is no different for me than Koepka, they should both move the needle, but either their team or their club sponsor has literally no idea how to brand and market them.<br />
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    I agree. And I find this funny bc Rose’s agent is Mark Steinberg
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  • Holy MosesHoly Moses Members  11135WRX Points: 916Posts: 11,135 Titanium Tees
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    SASpeeder wrote:
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    This may be a contentious point of view but if TM are going to off load anyone then I think they should keep Rose and off load Rahm (in terms of moving the marketing needle). Rose has certainly been more visible than Rahm this past season. Just my 2 cents worth...<br />
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    You sign players not based on what they have done, but what you expect them to do moving forward. I’d sign Rahm.
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  • Hawkeye77Hawkeye77 IowaClubWRX  21737WRX Points: 5,729Posts: 21,737 ClubWRX
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    Rose is no different for me than Koepka, they should both move the needle, but either their team or their club sponsor has literally no idea how to brand and market them.<br />
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    Well ---- no, actually. <br />
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    Their "team" or sponsors have a little bit of knowledge about marketing them vs. yours.<br />
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    You can't magically turn them into something they aren't.<br />
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    Pretty sure they are happy with the millions they are making, so you also can't turn them into something they don't really want to be or can't be.<br />
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    Thus endeth the lesson.
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    You should have stopped at the “little bit of knowledge”, that part was right and also the problem.<br />
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    Thus endeth the lesson...
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  • flushemflushem Members  2155WRX Points: 448Handicap: 11.5Posts: 2,155 Platinum Tees
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    I have always considered Honma as overpriced superhyped clubs. But i recently got tw737 driver and realized how foolish i have been. Honma is superb but totally overlooked club in terms of performance. <br />
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    Honma also makes own proprietary shafts for decades. I am confident thst it will make a magical shaft for Rose. As matter of fact, Honma is more known for shafts than club heads.
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    tgtaggie wrote:
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    Rose is no different for me than Koepka, they should both move the needle, but either their team or their club sponsor has literally no idea how to brand and market them.<br />
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    I agree. And I find this funny bc Rose's agent is Mark Steinberg<br />
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    lol..soooo maybe he just doesnt move the needle ?
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    flushem wrote:
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    I have always considered Honma as overpriced superhyped clubs. But i recently got tw737 driver and realized how foolish i have been. Honma is superb but totally overlooked club in terms of performance. <br />
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    Honma also makes own proprietary shafts for decades. I am confident thst it will make a magical shaft for Rose. As matter of fact, Honma is more known for shafts than club heads.<br />
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    their 3, 4 stars are, imo, overpriced superhyped. but honma do make great shafts with high tech materials.
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  • thesaxemachinethesaxemachine Hello, friends... Members  449WRX Points: 84Handicap: 9.9Posts: 449 Greens
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    Hideto Tanihara is a Honma staffer and as of last year didn’t seem to have Honma shafts in his Honma clubs. Not sure why Rose would accept a deal where that was the case. <br />
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    http://www.golfwrx.com/forums/topic/1460290-hideto-tanihara-witb-2017-dell-match-play/
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  • HonmanHonman Members  1054WRX Points: 67Handicap: 9Posts: 1,054 Platinum Tees
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    Hideto Tanihara is a Honma staffer and as of last year didn’t seem to have Honma shafts in his Honma clubs. Not sure why Rose would accept a deal where that was the case. <br />
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    http://www.golfwrx.com/forums/topic/1460290-hideto-tanihara-witb-2017-dell-match-play/<br />
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    Vizard are honma shafts.
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  • theboypinoytheboypinoy Members  2106WRX Points: 153Posts: 2,106 Platinum Tees
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    Hideto Tanihara is a Honma staffer and as of last year didn't seem to have Honma shafts in his Honma clubs. Not sure why Rose would accept a deal where that was the case.<br />
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    http://www.golfwrx.c...ell-match-play/<br />
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    As mentioned above, all the Honma clubs had Honma shafts. <img src='http://www.golfwrx.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />
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  • GoGoErkyGoGoErky Members  2859WRX Points: 1,011Posts: 2,859 Titanium Tees
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    Rose is no different for me than Koepka, they should both move the needle, but either their team or their club sponsor has literally no idea how to brand and market them.<br />
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    Koepka doesn’t care and once he’s off the course he’s in his own world. Rose outside of the UK doesn’t resonate with fans and has a rep for being a ****. On the UK side many bigger names for fans to care about
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  • Holy MosesHoly Moses Members  11135WRX Points: 916Posts: 11,135 Titanium Tees
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    GoGoErky wrote:
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    Rose is no different for me than Koepka, they should both move the needle, but either their team or their club sponsor has literally no idea how to brand and market them.<br />
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    Koepka doesn’t care and once he’s off the course he’s in his own world. Rose outside of the UK doesn’t resonate with fans and has a rep for being a ****. On the UK side many bigger names for fans to care about<br />
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    Yet Koepka gets mad that the media doesn’t care for him.<br />
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    Rose is a ****? First I’ve heard of that.
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  • theboypinoytheboypinoy Members  2106WRX Points: 153Posts: 2,106 Platinum Tees
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    Holy Moses wrote:
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    GoGoErky wrote:
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    Rose is no different for me than Koepka, they should both move the needle, but either their team or their club sponsor has literally no idea how to brand and market them.<br />
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    Koepka doesn't care and once he's off the course he's in his own world. Rose outside of the UK doesn't resonate with fans and has a rep for being a ****. On the UK side many bigger names for fans to care about<br />
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    Yet Koepka gets mad that the media doesn't care for him.<br />
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    Rose is a ****? First I've heard of that.<br />
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    Me too; haven't heard anything of that sort about Rose.
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    jcorna01 wrote:
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    I like that their staff player bios list their blood type.<br />
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    One of the girls is 5 foot 18!
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  • EricWGolfEricWGolf Members  799WRX Points: 494Posts: 799 Golden Tee
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    freowho wrote:
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    jcorna01 wrote:
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    I like that their staff player bios list their blood type.<br />
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    One of the girls is 5 foot 18!<br />
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    That’s nothing. Ha-Neul Kim Is 5 foot 63” !<br />
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    jcorna01 wrote:
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    I like that their staff player bios list their blood type.<br />
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    Knowing people's blood types is a really common thing in Japan. (Don't have experience living in other countries in the region, so can't comment about them.). Think of it like when knowing people's constellations was a big thing in the U.S. People like to use blood types to imply that someone will have a certain type of personality or certain characteristics, and it often comes up in conversations, but like horoscopes most people don't take it seriously.
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  • andrieddleandrieddle Members  1844WRX Points: 112Posts: 1,844 Platinum Tees
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    I'd love for this to happen! Come on Rosey, make it happen, he would still be great with 13 Honma clubs and a customized putter from SC.....
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  • daniel32293daniel32293 Members  491WRX Points: 77Posts: 491 Greens
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    Remember Rose wasn't at Taylormade's most recent commercial shoot for Taylormade's "Big 5": Woods, McIlroy, Day, Rahm and DJ.
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    Rose went to number 1 ( Fedex winner ) and at that point, TM lost the bag and hat deal for next season. He was not part of the 760 launch down in Florida.<br />
    Mark King has had a long relationship with Rose and wants to grow the brand. You will see the changes in Jan 2019.
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    daparty wrote:
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    jcorna01 wrote:
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    I like that their staff player bios list their blood type.<br />
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    Knowing people's blood types is a really common thing in Japan. (Don't have experience living in other countries in the region, so can't comment about them.). Think of it like when knowing people's constellations was a big thing in the U.S. People like to use blood types to imply that someone will have a certain type of personality or certain characteristics, and it often comes up in conversations, but like horoscopes most people don't take it seriously.<br />
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    It’s to track those with alien lineage.
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  • GolfChannelGolfChannel Orlando, FloridaMembers  2574WRX Points: 782Handicap: 0.9Posts: 2,574 Titanium Tees
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    From the same reliable source I have been told the second “big name” that is already a done deal is Paul Casey and they are trying to secure Molinari as well.
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    GoGoErky wrote:
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    Rose is no different for me than Koepka, they should both move the needle, but either their team or their club sponsor has literally no idea how to brand and market them.<br />
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    Koepka doesn't care and once he's off the course he's in his own world. Rose outside of the UK doesn't resonate with fans and has a rep for being a ****. On the UK side many bigger names for fans to care about<br />
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    Nope. <br />
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    Quite the opposite actually.
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    Rose and Casey...decent stable to start your Tour presence with!
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    Casey won't sell anything he is not popular on either side of the pond. Excellent player but arrogant. Rose is a bit dull. Very safe. Brilliant player but very mechanical. Honma irons will be as good as anything TM make so no issues.
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  • flushemflushem Members  2155WRX Points: 448Handicap: 11.5Posts: 2,155 Platinum Tees
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    I heard that Honma was bought by TM. True?<br />
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    If so, I could see the strategic shift from TM to Honma.
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  • grm24grm24 Western PAMembers  4787WRX Points: 1,846Posts: 4,787 Titanium Tees
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    flushem wrote:
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    I heard that Honma was bought by TM. True?<br />
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    No. The former CEO of TM, Mark King, was hired by Homna to be in charge. TM was purchased last year by a private equity firm. TM isn't buying anybody. <br />
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    http://www.golfincmagazine.com/content/honma-golf-hires-former-taylormade-chief
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