Z star vs Chrome soft

Love them both, has anyone noticed any advantages of one over the other?

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  • JagpilotohioJagpilotohio 45+ inch drivers are evil. Columbus, OHMembers Posts: 7,151 ✭✭
    The Z star isnt quite like hitting a cotton ball.
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  • lil'mikelil'mike Members Posts: 1,264 ✭✭
    The Chrome Soft definitely feels softer, quite a bit softer!
  • GolfChannelGolfChannel Orlando, FloridaMembers Posts: 1,636 ✭✭
    This generation of Z-Star doesn’t spin as much. I have gamed them along with Chromesoft and the Bridgestone BXS this year. The differences really are negligible between them, but I have found more consistency with the Bridgestones.



    That said the Q-Star Tours are quite good. I was lucky enough to be a tester and they are amazing.
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  • BullskierBullskier Members Posts: 34 ✭✭
    For me, the Z Star is a better ball. I know the Chromes are popular, but they feel heavy to me. Z Star has great spin around greens and feels a little firmer than the Q Star Tour. Also very durable.
  • Joe V.Joe V. Members Posts: 252 ✭✭
    The Z-star may be the most durable urethane ball I've ever used. I lost one this weekend after using it 43 holes and it still looked nearly perfect. And as mentioned, less expensive.
  • cricgolfcricgolf Posts: 156
    Are they coming out with a newer version Z star?
  • PulledabillPulledabill Posts: 324 ✭✭
    Not even comparable in my opinion. Z star is hard, durable, and spins. Callaway is soft. less spin, and not as durable. Both good balls but for different games.
  • ZStar is cheaper, harder and slightly shorter for me. I would say they are comparable in terms of flight and short game spin.
  • Hateto3PuttHateto3Putt Smoking Makes You Look Cool! Members Posts: 6,271 ✭✭
    I'm a Z Star fan, I won a dozen of the soccer ball looking Chrome softs.



    I really wanted to like them.



    I don't.



    I played two rounds with them and lost 2 balls and shot some crappy scores.



    Being a fairly consistent misser of greens, my up and down skills are pretty good.



    For some reason, mental perhaps, I couldn't get the chrome softs to stop near the hole.



    Also, my drives didn't go nearly as far.



    Doesn't make them bad balls, just didn't work for me.



    YMMV
  • JDaxJDax Posts: 84
    These are the 2 balls I play regularly...

    The Chrome Soft has less spin off the driver, and the Z-Star spins more on wedge shots for me.
  • I would say the Chrome soft grips more on chip shots. Both are the same distance off the driver.
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  • LightBearerLightBearer Posts: 153 ✭✭
    In my experience with the two.



    Off the putter, I would say the Chrome Soft is everso slightly softer. Z Star is still amongst the softest balls off the putter. The only one I can think of that feels softer is W/S Duo Urethane.



    Your mileage may vary depending on your putter.



    Z Star's spinskin is real technology, and definitely adds some spin onto the shortest of chips and pitches. Chrome Soft is a viable performer and a good short game ball as well. But Srixon leads that category for me.





    Off the driver...I cant tell a discernable difference in launch, distance, anything. Too marginal.



    Irons. Not much difference for me. Id say the short irons, say 8 iron on down, get a few more RPMs out of the Srixon. But for me, Callaway launches higher, so the differences are negligible there as well.
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  •  SwooshLT SwooshLT Members Posts: 6,984 ✭✭


    Not even comparable in my opinion. Z star is hard, durable, and spins. Callaway is soft. less spin, and not as durable. Both good balls but for different games.




    How do you differentiate the games....CS for a high spin guy?
  •  SwooshLT SwooshLT Members Posts: 6,984 ✭✭


    Not even comparable in my opinion. Z star is hard, durable, and spins. Callaway is soft. less spin, and not as durable. Both good balls but for different games.




    Found out compression rating: zstar is 88 CS is 70....
  • storm319storm319 Members Posts: 3,752 ✭✭
    SwooshLT wrote:



    Not even comparable in my opinion. Z star is hard, durable, and spins. Callaway is soft. less spin, and not as durable. Both good balls but for different games.




    Found out compression rating: zstar is 88 CS is 70....




    Not an apples to apples comparison since Srixon lists overall compression while Callaway only lists core compression. The balls are likely around the same overall. Srixon urethane covers tend to be a bit harder and thinner than the rest of the big OEMs resulting in a bit harder feel vs other balls at the same compression.
  • LeftDaddyLeftDaddy Members Posts: 655 ✭✭
    Not even a comparison IMO. Z star is a superior ball. Longer off the driver, soft enough, and bites on greens where the CS rolls and rolls and rolls. The CS balloons off the driver for me. The CSX is a pretty good ball though. Still very soft and does grab at least a little on the greens.



    The Z star is a great ball, though...as good as it gets.
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  • GSDriverGSDriver Members Posts: 576 ✭✭
    Picked up a dozen ZStar on sale at PGA SS, figured as I was out of CS, would be a good winter/cold weather ball....then I played them, reminded me why I play Chrome Soft....ymmv
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  •  SwooshLT SwooshLT Members Posts: 6,984 ✭✭
    GSDriver wrote:


    Picked up a dozen ZStar on sale at PGA SS, figured as I was out of CS, would be a good winter/cold weather ball....then I played them, reminded me why I play Chrome Soft....ymmv






    Ok....give more please! Spin,feel ,distance?
  •  SwooshLT SwooshLT Members Posts: 6,984 ✭✭
    SwooshLT wrote:

    GSDriver wrote:


    Picked up a dozen ZStar on sale at PGA SS, figured as I was out of CS, would be a good winter/cold weather ball....then I played them, reminded me why I play Chrome Soft....ymmv






    Ok....give more please! Spin,feel ,distance?






    I'm also trying Qstar tour....much more comparable I feel....
  • mcasella08mcasella08 Members Posts: 78 ✭✭
    Z Star is a great cold weather ball, love the yellow. I love the look of TruVis esp. the American Flags but the Chromesofts just don't give me enough distance off the driver and they don't check up as well on wedge shots. Haven't had a chance to try the Chomesoft X, hopefully those are a little better.
  • GSDriverGSDriver Members Posts: 576 ✭✭
    mcasella08 wrote:


    Z Star is a great cold weather ball, love the yellow. I love the look of TruVis esp. the American Flags but the Chromesofts just don't give me enough distance off the driver and they don't check up as well on wedge shots. Haven't had a chance to try the Chomesoft X, hopefully those are a little better.




    Each to their own I guess. I picked up some ZStars in yellow as they were on sale and figured good enough for winter....my experience was exact opposite of yours. I gave the remaining 3 sleeves of ZStar to a buddy
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  • dcarwindcarwin Members Posts: 3 ClubWRX
    Wow - responses all over the map here. Result: inconclusive.
  • GolfChannelGolfChannel Orlando, FloridaMembers Posts: 1,636 ✭✭
    dcarwin wrote:
    Wow - responses all over the map here. Result: inconclusive.




    Same as everything else in golf, there are no absolutes. We use trends to narrow our focus, but it doesn’t mean we will ourselves experience the same results as others.
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  • Twin2LTwin2L Members Posts: 52 ✭✭
    The Z-Star (88) is a firmer ball than the Chrome Soft (66). The Q-Star (75) and Bridgestone BXS (75) are more comparable to the Chrome Soft (66). The Bridgestone RX (66) and RXS (64) will be the best compression matches..



    Dimple quantity, size and depth will alter flight tendencies which means some match my swing better than others.



    Real world effects for me is mostly similar Driver distances, but firmer balls result is loss of 1/2 club or even more with irons.



    After an injury, I went from playing the old B330 (105) and V1X (110?) to several years of the RX and CS. Now I'm in the BXS and Q-Star for feel, flight and predictability into and on greens.



    Bottom line, buy several sleeves and try them on the course you normally play. Differences, both desirable and not-so-much will show themselves in short order.
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  • storm319storm319 Members Posts: 3,752 ✭✭
    Twin2L wrote:


    The Z-Star (88) is a firmer ball than the Chrome Soft (66). The Q-Star (75) and Bridgestone BXS (75) are more comparable to the Chrome Soft (66). The Bridgestone RX (66) and RXS (64) will be the best compression matches..



    Dimple quantity, size and depth will alter flight tendencies which means some match my swing better than others.



    Real world effects for me is mostly similar Driver distances, but firmer balls result is loss of 1/2 club or even more with irons.



    After an injury, I went from playing the old B330 (105) and V1X (110?) to several years of the RX and CS. Now I'm in the BXS and Q-Star for feel, flight and predictability into and on greens.



    Bottom line, buy several sleeves and try them on the course you normally play. Differences, both desirable and not-so-much will show themselves in short order.




    As I previously stated, there is no industry standard for compression so comparing figures from different companies is not apples to apples.
  • Twin2LTwin2L Members Posts: 52 ✭✭
    edited Mar 16, 2019 11:16am #28
    storm319 wrote:

    Twin2L wrote:


    The Z-Star (88) is a firmer ball than the Chrome Soft (66). The Q-Star (75) and Bridgestone BXS (75) are more comparable to the Chrome Soft (66). The Bridgestone RX (66) and RXS (64) will be the best compression matches..



    Dimple quantity, size and depth will alter flight tendencies which means some match my swing better than others.



    Real world effects for me is mostly similar Driver distances, but firmer balls result is loss of 1/2 club or even more with irons.



    After an injury, I went from playing the old B330 (105) and V1X (110?) to several years of the RX and CS. Now I'm in the BXS and Q-Star for feel, flight and predictability into and on greens.



    Bottom line, buy several sleeves and try them on the course you normally play. Differences, both desirable and not-so-much will show themselves in short order.




    As I previously stated, there is no industry standard for compression so comparing figures from different companies is not apples to apples.




    While I agree that there is not a scientifically precise uniform measurement, your complete dismissal of the compression numbers defies logic and is a rude manner of dismissing those who do not share your point of view.



    Like shaft flexes, they do serve as a good guide indicating the difference in firmness and indicate a "comfort zone".



    When my swing speed was 110+, I didn't much care if I was hitting a rockflight or a marshmallow. After a significant neck injury, the compression absolutely makes a difference in feel, distance and confidence. We may pretend the difference is arbitrary, but the difference in firmness can be felt during contact and seen in flight as well as the end result.



    For players with moderate swing speed and "feel" players, the difference is very real whatever the exact number may be.



    Like every other aspect of golf, your mileage may vary, but it will never negate the real and perceived experience others may have in their pursuit of this wonderful game.
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  • storm319storm319 Members Posts: 3,752 ✭✭
    edited Mar 16, 2019 11:46am #29
    Twin2L wrote:

    storm319 wrote:

    Twin2L wrote:


    The Z-Star (88) is a firmer ball than the Chrome Soft (66). The Q-Star (75) and Bridgestone BXS (75) are more comparable to the Chrome Soft (66). The Bridgestone RX (66) and RXS (64) will be the best compression matches..



    Dimple quantity, size and depth will alter flight tendencies which means some match my swing better than others.



    Real world effects for me is mostly similar Driver distances, but firmer balls result is loss of 1/2 club or even more with irons.



    After an injury, I went from playing the old B330 (105) and V1X (110?) to several years of the RX and CS. Now I'm in the BXS and Q-Star for feel, flight and predictability into and on greens.



    Bottom line, buy several sleeves and try them on the course you normally play. Differences, both desirable and not-so-much will show themselves in short order.




    As I previously stated, there is no industry standard for compression so comparing figures from different companies is not apples to apples.




    While I agree that there is not a scientifically precise uniform measurement, your complete dismissal of the compression numbers defies logic and is a rude manner of dismissing those who do not share your point of view.



    Like shaft flexes, they do serve as a good guide indicating the difference in firmness and indicate a "comfort zone".



    When my swing speed was 110+, I didn't much care if I was hitting a rockflight or a marshmallow. After a significant neck injury, the compression absolutely makes a difference in feel, distance and confidence. We may pretend the difference is arbitrary, but the difference in firmness can be felt during contact and seen in flight as well as the end result.



    For players with moderate swing speed and "feel" players, the difference is very real whatever the exact number may be.



    Like every other aspect of golf, your mileage may vary, but it will never negate the real and perceived experience others may have in their pursuit of this wonderful game.




    Not dismissing compression, but not only do the different OEMs not use the same method but many measure different parts of the ball completely. Example, Callaway and Bridgestone have historically measure the core only vs Srixon that measures the entire ball. Comparing numbers from different models from the same company is completely fine (just like shaft flex), but comparing to another company that measures the attribute completely differently is not objective.



    The only way to objectively compare compression across different companies is for a 3rd party to measure using a consistent method. Take a look at this if you haven’t already seen it as this is the best I have found (although it has not been updated in the last several years):



    http://www.golfwrx.com/forums/topic/1374950-2016-compression-data/



    Ultimately, nothing will replace actual on course testing but objectively comparing specific attributes (material, construction, relative hardness) vs a familiar baseline can help to narrow down prospects.
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