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Driver vs Driver 2

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Well I watched the first season and thought probably not going to care for another. But unfortunately Hollywood worked its magic and I’m excited to see what happens in this season. Any thoughts?

I just pre ordered the No **** Driver.

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  • roundersmittyroundersmitty  1109WRX Points: 95Members Posts: 1,109
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    NixLix26 wrote:
    Well I watched the first season and thought probably not going to care for another. But unfortunately Hollywood worked its magic and I’m excited to see what happens in this season. Any thoughts?

    I just pre ordered the No **** Driver.




    I'm guessing the no **** driver would have a very limp shaft
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  • drumdude96drumdude96  913WRX Points: 101Members Posts: 913
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    NixLix26 wrote:
    Well I watched the first season and thought probably not going to care for another. But unfortunately Hollywood worked its magic and I’m excited to see what happens in this season. Any thoughts?

    I just pre ordered the No **** Driver.




    I'm guessing the no **** driver would have a very limp shaft


    Now that's a whole bunch of funny right there! Good one!
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  • dicko999dicko999 I call it "Celebration"  491WRX Points: 64Handicap: BeerMembers Posts: 491
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    If any of the contestants can find a way to inject Jeremy Roenick’s ginormous ego into a club head, game over.
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  • HiSpeed48HiSpeed48  2109WRX Points: 117Members Posts: 2,109
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    The judge in the middle looked/sounded really familiar but I could not figure it out. Name finally popped up and its Rick Shiels, go figure. Good for him.
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  • Bomber_11Bomber_11 Enjoy the Chase.  3569WRX Points: 142ClubWRX Posts: 3,569
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    The critically acclaimed second season that nobody asked for!



    The Triton was a joke, Wilson Golf is irrelevant outside of decent irons, and the design they decide on will be as big of a flop as last time.



    Rick Shiels should just bring Lucy Robson on the show as a guest and she can swing all of the designs on a simulator. I'd watch that. Still wouldn't pay 3 easy payments of $19.99 for whatever driver won.
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    I was pretty impressed with Rick to be honest. I didn't think he'd hold up on a TV set but he did pretty well.



    Some of those ideas are just terrible though
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  • Ping ZingsPing Zings  845WRX Points: 85Members Posts: 845
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    Meh!
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  • Gstew1930Gstew1930  171WRX Points: 15Handicap: 5Members Posts: 171
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    I probably won’t buy the driver but I enjoyed the show last night
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  • munichopmunichop  317WRX Points: 179Members Posts: 317
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    Aside from the effort to make it look like a Heidi Klum show about golf what stood out to me is that just about everything has already been done to drivers by every maker including Wilson. The challenge then becomes more about manufacturing costs, quality control and marketing. That is why I thought the "Roswell" effort had the most appeal. Regardless websites like **** and others that do comprehensive measurements on CG, MOI and N.A. and going to a fitting shop where they have a Trackman will help more than watching the President of Wilson Golf talk about catching the customer's eye with an interesting sole design as the club sits in the rack. I like Rick Shiels as I have used his reviews to find my current driver (Cobra F6+). The Triton was a disaster not because the driver was junk but because they screwed the pooch on the launch by having the USGA reject the "fin" version. Somehow though my wife is intrigued by this "how it's made" show- I won't argue.
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  • The Mad BomberThe Mad Bomber I seem to not like new things. Get off my lawn...  1062WRX Points: 158Members Posts: 1,062
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    Vegas line on the winning driver being:

    - A huge flop (-962)

    - Non-Conforming (+125)

    - Ugly (-255)

    - Played on Tour (+115)

    - Played by a non-contract player on tour (+1063)

    - Made fun of by the GolfWRX Community until the next 'Driver vs. Driver' (-1,935,273)
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  • getitdailygetitdaily  3013WRX Points: 302Handicap: +.5Members Posts: 3,013
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    I'm just excited to see what premium shaft I can get for $75 in a year when the triton2 is on clearance.
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  • evoviiiyouevoviiiyou evoviiiyou  2013WRX Points: 163Members Posts: 2,013
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    Man...some of those designs? How hard is it:



    -Take a simple top view approach from a Titleist driver with exotic material

    -Allow for weights to be placed anywhere at the bottom for desired spin-moi tuning

    -Square face with some sort of structural marketing approach (jail break hammer head)

    -Make it look fast and clean

    -Offer the best premium shafts at no upcharge



    Done
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  • mgrifonemgrifone  97WRX Points: 0Handicap: 3Members Posts: 97
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    evoviiiyou wrote:


    Man...some of those designs? How hard is it:



    -Take a simple top view approach from a Titleist driver with exotic material

    -Allow for weights to be placed anywhere at the bottom for desired spin-moi tuning

    -Square face with some sort of structural marketing approach (jail break hammer head)

    -Make it look fast and clean

    -Offer the best premium shafts at no upcharge



    Done




    It seemed like there was one driver that took that approach with the infinity weight track. I don't know how you can even get into that room talking about square designs and magnets though.
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  • WidespreadPanicWidespreadPanic Wizard in the Corner  4908WRX Points: 218Handicap: 0.4Members Posts: 4,908
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    I have it 10 minutes. I just couldn’t do it. It will get more interesting once the drivers start being produced, but the 2 designs I saw were a joke.
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  • DavidvDavidv  933WRX Points: 188Members Posts: 933
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    They need a new format, this year's version is as boring as last years.The Wilson President too fixated on what the club will look like on the retail rack. Should be focused on innovative technology and how to market it. Much like Callaway has done with the jailbreak technology. Not visible but they sure know how to market it.
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  • mesomikemesomike  561WRX Points: 94Handicap: 8.5ClubWRX Posts: 561
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    How do they narrow it down to those guys. Some of those designs were miserable.
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  • akim47akim47  63WRX Points: 30Handicap: LifeMembers Posts: 63
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    Entertaining, but the whole premise is a joke. Nothing that comes from this can possibly be any good (or I have extreme doubts). Meanwhile, Callaway crushed it with the Epic to the Rogue SZ; TM crushed it with M2 to the M3/M4; I'm loving the looks of the TS2/3. I liked my G30 LS and will try out the G400. The current big brands continue to refine a winning formula. As a consumer, I don't see anything possibly coming from this that would make me spend my money on some hokey crap vs. what's tried and true in both the amateur and pro ranks. Right now, I'm as happy as I could be after picking up a cheap 2017 M2.
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  • Mike_CMike_C  1582WRX Points: 201Members Posts: 1,582
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    I actually watched it, didn't watch the first one. I was thinking what the need is a new Power Pod, then I looked it up, and there already has been a Power Pod II...... image/ohmy.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':o' />
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  • 4rheel4rheel OC, California 2159WRX Points: 320Members Posts: 2,159
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    Davidv wrote:


    They need a new format, this year's version is as boring as last years.The Wilson President too fixated on what the club will look like on the retail rack. Should be focused on innovative technology and how to market it. Much like Callaway has done with the jailbreak technology. Not visible but they sure know how to market it.




    I agree, these guys are not the marketers and just trying to design a great driver. I figure that's Wilson's marketing team's job to help with market the innovations of the driver.
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  • ihatecats18ihatecats18 Minnesota 292WRX Points: 67Handicap: 1.0Members Posts: 292
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    Over produced. But still fun to watch. Maybe more of a catch the higlights show
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    • Hybrid: Adams XTD 4i
    • Irons: Wilson F 100, 5-PW
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  • Nixhex524Nixhex524  4557WRX Points: 389Handicap: 3.4ClubWRX Posts: 4,557
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    evoviiiyou wrote:


    Man...some of those designs? How hard is it:



    -Take a simple top view approach from a Titleist driver with exotic material

    -Allow for weights to be placed anywhere at the bottom for desired spin-moi tuning

    -Square face with some sort of structural marketing approach (jail break hammer head)

    -Make it look fast and clean

    -Offer the best premium shafts at no upcharge



    Done




    This. I don't understand why Wilson is trying to always reinvent the wheel. As far as woods go, they seem to have been making ugly clubs for years now. Stop trying so hard and just make a simple high performance wood with good shaft choices at a fair price and I guarantee people will start looking into them. Look at Srixon... They seem to have just busted into the market share, be it a small piece, but they are being paid attention to with some of their latest designs and they are simple AF. All this crazy structure tech and weights and wind tunnels... just make a cool looking driver, I would check it out for sure. Their irons are pretty, the golf balls have been great... stop trying to beat something you can not beat. All these clubs are performing the same for the most part. Make something a Tour player would game and people will buy it. Keep it simple stupid!!!
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  • evoviiiyouevoviiiyou evoviiiyou  2013WRX Points: 163Members Posts: 2,013
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    Davidv wrote:


    They need a new format, this year's version is as boring as last years.The Wilson President too fixated on what the club will look like on the retail rack. Should be focused on innovative technology and how to market it. Much like Callaway has done with the jailbreak technology. Not visible but they sure know how to market it.




    This "sales first" "innovate second" approach from the top of the Wilson brand is why they are not even in the mix to be a top tier legacy golf brand in the modern landscape. His responses need to be more from the view of the consumer not the sales guy pedaling a product at X profit margin. SAD...is what it is.
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  • sdandreasdandrea Steve  2636WRX Points: 490Handicap: 11Members Posts: 2,636
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    Given the fact that the first show produced a total flop, why on earth would it get another go? I didn't make it through an entire episode of the first one unless I needed a nap. Ugh....
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    Roenick does not help the show, he's obnoxious. I don't really care what a ex hockey player who plays golf thinks about driver design.
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    Woods - XXIO 10 3W
    Hybrids - XXIO 10 3H, 4H, 5H
    Irons - Home - PXG Gen 2 0311P 5-SW   Away - Callaway Apex CF-19 5-SW
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  • BigHook25BigHook25  2304WRX Points: 123Members Posts: 2,304
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    sdandrea wrote:


    Given the fact that the first show produced a total flop, why on earth would it get another go? I didn't make it through an entire episode of the first one unless I needed a nap. Ugh....




    The golf channel has to fill space during what is essentially the off-season for golf.
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  • shaunGshaunG  217WRX Points: 42Handicap: 10Members Posts: 217
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    Wilson is in the same ballpark as Srixon, they make great clubs but do not get the notoriety as the other brands. The C300 driver is the real deal the FG tour f5 and the FG tour M3 were both very good drivers. It kind of pisses me off that they do this stupid a** show.
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  • NixLix26NixLix26  384WRX Points: 123Handicap: 4Members Posts: 384
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    Somebody mentioned on here already, but just put a good driver in a touring pros hands and if he wins. BOOM. It doesn’t matter how the **** it sits on a rack because people will be interested. **** if Rickie Shiels endorses one it will get love from a lot of golf guys
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  • DatSliceDoeDatSliceDoe Camerons & Cobras One fairway over 2435WRX Points: 364Handicap: 9ishMembers Posts: 2,435
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    Good for Rick, primetime US exposure can only help his YouTube endeavors.



    The show itself seems faster paced than last season, which is a good thing. Hopefully the winner doesn't wind up with a flop thanks to Wilson themselves bungling the product QA work and having the USGA come down hard on them.
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  • Nixhex524Nixhex524  4557WRX Points: 389Handicap: 3.4ClubWRX Posts: 4,557
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    BigHook25 wrote:

    sdandrea wrote:


    Given the fact that the first show produced a total flop, why on earth would it get another go? I didn't make it through an entire episode of the first one unless I needed a nap. Ugh....




    The golf channel has to fill space during what is essentially the off-season for golf.




    I'd rather bring Big Break back.... I do like Shiels on TV... he seems natural. May wind up with his own spot...
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  • rymail00rymail00  6705WRX Points: 159Handicap: 6Members Posts: 6,705
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    Davidv wrote:


    They need a new format, this year's version is as boring as last years.The Wilson President too fixated on what the club will look like on the retail rack. Should be focused on innovative technology and how to market it. Much like Callaway has done with the jailbreak technology. Not visible but they sure know how to market it.




    I agree 100%, but that just lets you know exactly how these big companies approach drivers. Its all about visual tech, like TM and Twist-face. Why else would they produce those enlarged over angled face plates to show off their "tech". Besides Y track, instead of T track, the M4 showed no new "visual tech" besides Hammerhead, but nobody bought the M4 or M3 only because of Hammerhead sole, but maybe they did due to Twistface tech (I'm speaking on the 98% golfers outside of Golfwrx).



    Also the Epic/Rogue does have the "visual tech" with the JailBreak. It shows on the sole where those 2 bars supposedly show on the sole by the face. So it does kind of show "visual tech".



    Honestly watching this show makes me feel more like a sucker considering any drivers from this year. I start to think of Turbulators, Hammerhead, ARC (917 line), Jailbreak, Drangonfly crown etc. and then I start to feel stupid as a consumer, and actually turns me off from wanting to a current driver. Yeah maybe I can gain 3-5 yards with a good fitting. Is it worth the $500-800 (with an upgraded shaft), probably not.... LOL I haven't felt this feeling of "why upgrade" since the last time I saw this show.



    And yes, I realize its an hour long Wilson commercial too.



    So I will watch the show, but only off my DVR when there's nothing else watch. But I am happy for Rick Shiels. I've been following his channel for a few years, and enjoy his content. Also I Like watching Jeremy as well, I met him in an airport and was just a nice guy, and always used the Blackhawks in the NHL 93-95 on Sega Genesis image/drinks.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':drinks:' />
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