ANNOUNCEMENT:
Please have patience. We understand that this sucks and it will get MUCH better.

Link to full post HERE
Please add any bugs (problems) with new software in the Website Help Forum. There is a dedicated thread HERE.

Mizuno 2019

11112131416

Comments

  • b2bbirdiesb2bbirdies Members Posts: 12 ✭✭
    Is the 919 Hot Metal Pro 3 iron going to only be tour only? I see Koepka is possibly throwing it in the bag. Vijay has the 4 and 5 but no 3.
  • icandyicandy Advanced Members Posts: 210
    I really wish they offered the ST190 in a 12 degree. Doesn't make much sense (to me at least) to have a 9.5 and a 105.....space it out a little




    You can loft it up also. I played around yesterday with a 10.5 set to 11.5.
    [font=tahoma,geneva,sans-serif]Titleist 917 D2 10.5 Diamana S+
    Titleist TS2 18 Accra FX200F M4[/font]

    [font=tahoma,geneva,sans-serif]Titleist 816H1 23 Diamana S+[/font]
    [font=tahoma, geneva, sans-serif]Mizuno MP18 HI FLI 4i[/font]
    [font=tahoma, geneva, sans-serif]Mizuno MP18 SC 5[/font][font=tahoma, geneva, sans-serif]i - PW KBS Tour SS[/font]
    [font=tahoma, geneva, sans-serif]Mizuno T7 52, 56, 60 - Nippon Modus 3 Wedge 115[/font]
  • conorgolf22conorgolf22 Advanced Members Posts: 577
    icandy wrote:

    I really wish they offered the ST190 in a 12 degree. Doesn't make much sense (to me at least) to have a 9.5 and a 105.....space it out a little




    You can loft it up also. I played around yesterday with a 10.5 set to 11.5.




    That tends to close the face, which doesn't do me any favors
    [font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Driver: Callaway Rogue 13.5* Aldila Rogue Elite Blue[/font]
    [font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Fairway: Ping G400 17* Aldila 2KXV Orange[/font]
    [font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Hybrid: Titleist 816H1 21* Aldila Tour Green[/font]
    [font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Driving Iron: PXG 0311X 4 iron Steelfiber i95[/font]
    [font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Irons: Mizuno 919 Forged 5-PW Steelfiber i95[/font]
    [font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Wedges: Vokey SM6 52* New Level M-Type 58* and 62*[/font]
    [font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Putter: Scotty Cameron X7M[/font]
    [font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Ball: Titleist ProV1X[/font]
  • WidespreadPanicWidespreadPanic Wizard in the Corner Advanced Members Posts: 4,797
    What is Vijay’s iron set up? I know he plays the Modus 105, but in what heads?
    Taylormade M2 ('17) 10.5*
    Cobra F7 15.5*
    Taylormade M1 ('17) 19*
    Mizuno MP18 Fli Hi 4i
    Mizuno MP18 SC 5-PW
    Cleveland RTX 588 2.0 52**, 56**, 60**
    Taylormade TP Red Ardmore 3
    Taylormade TPx
  • WillyLWillyL Advanced Members Posts: 241 ✭✭
    Anybody heard if the adapters are out yet?? Im going to use my adbb6s.
    Nike Vapor Pro/ Vapor Flex 440 ADBB 6s
    Nike Vapor 3 wood Diamana S+
    Nike SQ2 19 hybrid Aldila VS Proto
    Mizuno MP18 4-6 SC, 7-PW MB C-Taper 120s
    Vokey SM6 50-10, 54-14 & 58-04
    Studio Select NP2
    Custom 2015 Scotty GOLO 3
    Scotty M2 (Gamer)
  • b2bbirdiesb2bbirdies Members Posts: 12 ✭✭


    What is Vijay's iron set up? I know he plays the Modus 105, but in what heads?




    JPX-919 Hot Metal Pro in 4 and 5. MP-4 in the rest
  • bogeyprobogeypro The Original Bogeypro ClubWRX Charter Members Posts: 3,132 ClubWRX
    Hammer22 wrote:



    I really wish they offered the ST190 in a 12 degree. Doesn't make much sense (to me at least) to have a 9.5 and a 105.....space it out a little




    The 10.5° head is actually more of a 12° head. It had been stated that Mizuno labeled it as a 10.5 for marketing purposes.




    As I understand it, there is a 10.5 high launch that is 12. Why they don’t call it 12?
    Taylormade M1 (2017) 440 9.5* tour w/Speeder 757 Evo ii X<br />Taylormade M1 (2017) 3 wood w/Aldila Tour Blue 75x<br />Mizuno MP18 flihi 3 iron <br />Mizuno MP18 SC 4-pw KBS Tour<br />Taylormade High Toe 52/58 wedges <br />Scotty Cameron 5.5m
  • third-times-a-charmthird-times-a-charm Advanced Members Posts: 1,338 ✭✭
    bogeypro wrote:

    Hammer22 wrote:



    I really wish they offered the ST190 in a 12 degree. Doesn't make much sense (to me at least) to have a 9.5 and a 105.....space it out a little




    The 10.5° head is actually more of a 12° head. It had been stated that Mizuno labeled it as a 10.5 for marketing purposes.




    As I understand it, there is a 10.5 high launch that is 12. Why they don't call it 12?




    Stigma. Was a marketing decision. Lots of people wont play HL or 12 deg heads because they dont like the fact that theyre by and large made for 'old people' or 'ladies clubs'.
    Long Live Nike
  • deep18deep18 Advanced Members Posts: 1,829 ✭✭
    b2bbirdies wrote:


    Is the 919 Hot Metal Pro 3 iron going to only be tour only? I see Koepka is possibly throwing it in the bag. Vijay has the 4 and 5 but no 3.




    Any chance at all we see a Hot Metal Pro 2 iron? Would love to put my MMC FliHi 2 iron against that and see who wins.
  • icandyicandy Advanced Members Posts: 210
    icandy wrote:

    I really wish they offered the ST190 in a 12 degree. Doesn't make much sense (to me at least) to have a 9.5 and a 105.....space it out a little




    You can loft it up also. I played around yesterday with a 10.5 set to 11.5.




    That tends to close the face, which doesn't do me any favors


    Yes I hate that too but it still sat open for me. At standard it already sit open. Worth checking out at the store
    [font=tahoma,geneva,sans-serif]Titleist 917 D2 10.5 Diamana S+
    Titleist TS2 18 Accra FX200F M4[/font]

    [font=tahoma,geneva,sans-serif]Titleist 816H1 23 Diamana S+[/font]
    [font=tahoma, geneva, sans-serif]Mizuno MP18 HI FLI 4i[/font]
    [font=tahoma, geneva, sans-serif]Mizuno MP18 SC 5[/font][font=tahoma, geneva, sans-serif]i - PW KBS Tour SS[/font]
    [font=tahoma, geneva, sans-serif]Mizuno T7 52, 56, 60 - Nippon Modus 3 Wedge 115[/font]
  • LlortamaiseyLlortamaisey Advanced Members Posts: 5,861
    deep18 wrote:
    b2bbirdies wrote:


    Is the 919 Hot Metal Pro 3 iron going to only be tour only? I see Koepka is possibly throwing it in the bag. Vijay has the 4 and 5 but no 3.




    Any chance at all we see a Hot Metal Pro 2 iron? Would love to put my MMC FliHi 2 iron against that and see who wins.




    The 4 iron is 20 degrees. I’m guessing the tour only 3 iron is 18 or 17 degrees. If they made a 2 iron, it would be 15.5 or 15 degrees. Now you’re talking my language!
  • reider69reider69 Advanced Members Posts: 572 ✭✭
    Those new JPX Fli Hi look super easy to hit! I have a buddy who is at that point where he cant get his 6-4 up in the air. I have told him about these. Anyone demo them yet?
    Cobra F7 - Matrix Ozik Black Tie M4 70 X
    Cobra BioCell+ - Matrix Ozik Red Tie 6Q3 X
    Cobra BioCell 3-4 Hybrid - Aldila Rogue Black 85 X
    Mizuno JPX 900 Forged 4-G, KBS C Taper Lite X
    Ping Glide Stealth 2.0 - 54 and 58 - Modus 105X
    Callaway Xforged - 64 degrees
    Lajosi DD201 Proto
  • deep18deep18 Advanced Members Posts: 1,829 ✭✭

    deep18 wrote:
    b2bbirdies wrote:


    Is the 919 Hot Metal Pro 3 iron going to only be tour only? I see Koepka is possibly throwing it in the bag. Vijay has the 4 and 5 but no 3.




    Any chance at all we see a Hot Metal Pro 2 iron? Would love to put my MMC FliHi 2 iron against that and see who wins.




    The 4 iron is 20 degrees. I’m guessing the tour only 3 iron is 18 or 17 degrees. If they made a 2 iron, it would be 15.5 or 15 degrees. Now you’re talking my language!




    Well if that 3 iron comes in at 17* then we’re good to go.
  • BearQBearQ Break 2 Rebuild Advanced Members Posts: 3,051 ✭✭
    edited March 7
    deep18 wrote:


    deep18 wrote:
    b2bbirdies wrote:


    Is the 919 Hot Metal Pro 3 iron going to only be tour only? I see Koepka is possibly throwing it in the bag. Vijay has the 4 and 5 but no 3.




    Any chance at all we see a Hot Metal Pro 2 iron? Would love to put my MMC FliHi 2 iron against that and see who wins.




    The 4 iron is 20 degrees. I’m guessing the tour only 3 iron is 18 or 17 degrees. If they made a 2 iron, it would be 15.5 or 15 degrees. Now you’re talking my language!




    Well if that 3 iron comes in at 17* then we’re good to go.




    Yeah and heaps load of offset. For many players, sGI models rarely suited for driving irons for this reason. Not the same modified 3-irons these tour lads get.
    LTD Pro 9.5* - Matrix Type C 70X  |  M2 Tour 15* - Tour AD VR 8X 
    P790 UDI - Black Tie 105X
    TP UDI (3-4)  |  Srixon Z945 (5-P) - Nippon SPB 
    Cobra MB (51*)  Nike VR Forged (56*)  Hi-Toe (60.10)
    TM Spider Black
  • MorryMorry Advanced Members Posts: 812 ✭✭
    Late joining this thread, so apologies if well discussed already

    But thinking hard about grabbing a 190 Driver - never played a Mizuno club before



    I have a low spin/launch swing and generally hot melt toe or lead tape it to hold off hook as a miss - 100/105 mph speed



    G400 has been the best for me - helps with spin, huge moi, etc



    Any thoughts on whether the 190 would suit me?



    Much appreciated
    [font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Ping G400 10.5 - EvenFlow Blue 6.0 / TPT 17 MKP[/font]
    [font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Callaway Fusion 3W - Fuji Evo III S[/font]
    [font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Srixon U65 18* - EvenFlow Blue 85 6.0[/font]
    [font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Taylormade 790 4-P - Modus 105-S[/font]
    [font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Cleveland RTX-4 50, 56, RTX-3 60 - Modus wedge 115,115,125[/font]
    [font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Odyssey V-Line Fang O-Works[/font]
    [font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Callaway CS-X [/font]
  • mBiden2mBiden2 Advanced Members Posts: 582 ✭✭
    Any update yet on when the software will come out for the shaft optimizer to include driver/fw shaft recommendations?
    WITB

    TM R9 460 TP 9.5* - Fujikura Motore F1 65X
    TM R9 TP 3W 15* - Fujikura Motore F1 85S
    TM P790 3 & 4 - Nippon Modus3 T 105X
    TM P790 5-PW - Nippon Modus3 T 120S
    TM MG 50* - Nippon Modus3 T 120S
    TM Z TP 54* & 58* - Project X 6.0
    Scotty Cameron Studio Select Newport 2 Mid-Slant
  • KParksKParks Members Posts: 56 ✭✭
    mBiden2 wrote:


    Any update yet on when the software will come out for the shaft optimizer to include driver/fw shaft recommendations?




    I thought that was already in there? Or is not yet for the new 3D shaft optimizer?
  • mBiden2mBiden2 Advanced Members Posts: 582 ✭✭
    KParks wrote:
    mBiden2 wrote:


    Any update yet on when the software will come out for the shaft optimizer to include driver/fw shaft recommendations?




    I thought that was already in there? Or is not yet for the new 3D shaft optimizer?




    Not sure. I was told 3/1 last month but haven’t had the chance to get to my local shop to see yet
    WITB

    TM R9 460 TP 9.5* - Fujikura Motore F1 65X
    TM R9 TP 3W 15* - Fujikura Motore F1 85S
    TM P790 3 & 4 - Nippon Modus3 T 105X
    TM P790 5-PW - Nippon Modus3 T 120S
    TM MG 50* - Nippon Modus3 T 120S
    TM Z TP 54* & 58* - Project X 6.0
    Scotty Cameron Studio Select Newport 2 Mid-Slant
  • MatziMatzi Matzi Advanced Members Posts: 284 ✭✭
    Listening to the podcast with Voshall. Said 3/1 they launched to retail essentially and places will have a "woods package" or something. So i'm assuming its that? He said its not going to be where they give you 20 clubs to try so that retailers dont have to worry about the merch moving
    Titleist 917 D3 12* - Fujikura Speeder Tour Spec 74x
    Titleist 915F 15 - Fujikura Speeder Tour Spec 84x
    Mizuno MMC Fli-Hi - 3i KBS Tour Hybrid Prototype 105x
    Mizuno MMC Fli-Hi - 4i KBS Tour X
    Mizuno MP-18 MMC 5-7 KBS Tour X
    Mizuno MP-18 MB 8-9 KBS Tour X
    Mizuno T7 46/51/55/59
    Scotty Cameron California Monterey
    Titleist Pro-V1x
  • mBiden2mBiden2 Advanced Members Posts: 582 ✭✭
    Matzi wrote:
    Listening to the podcast with Voshall. Said 3/1 they launched to retail essentially and places will have a "woods package" or something. So i'm assuming its that? He said its not going to be where they give you 20 clubs to try so that retailers dont have to worry about the merch moving




    Sounds great. I guess I’m not far enough into the podcast yet to hear him talk about it. I’ll have to stop by my local shop sometime soon!
    WITB

    TM R9 460 TP 9.5* - Fujikura Motore F1 65X
    TM R9 TP 3W 15* - Fujikura Motore F1 85S
    TM P790 3 & 4 - Nippon Modus3 T 105X
    TM P790 5-PW - Nippon Modus3 T 120S
    TM MG 50* - Nippon Modus3 T 120S
    TM Z TP 54* & 58* - Project X 6.0
    Scotty Cameron Studio Select Newport 2 Mid-Slant
  • SUMM1TSUMM1T Advanced Members Posts: 852 ✭✭
    Morry wrote:


    Late joining this thread, so apologies if well discussed already

    But thinking hard about grabbing a 190 Driver - never played a Mizuno club before



    I have a low spin/launch swing and generally hot melt toe or lead tape it to hold off hook as a miss - 100/105 mph speed



    G400 has been the best for me - helps with spin, huge moi, etc



    Any thoughts on whether the 190 would suit me?



    Much appreciated




    The ST190G may be a better fit for you as you'll have more manipulation over flight and spin characteristics. Both are great drivers, but I strongly advise getting fit for the right shaft as that really unlocks these heads.
  • VanSwagger83VanSwagger83 Advanced Members Posts: 115
    deep18 wrote:

    b2bbirdies wrote:


    Is the 919 Hot Metal Pro 3 iron going to only be tour only? I see Koepka is possibly throwing it in the bag. Vijay has the 4 and 5 but no 3.




    Any chance at all we see a Hot Metal Pro 2 iron? Would love to put my MMC FliHi 2 iron against that and see who wins.


    deep18 wrote:
    b2bbirdies wrote:


    Is the 919 Hot Metal Pro 3 iron going to only be tour only? I see Koepka is possibly throwing it in the bag. Vijay has the 4 and 5 but no 3.




    Any chance at all we see a Hot Metal Pro 2 iron? Would love to put my MMC FliHi 2 iron against that and see who wins.




    The 4 iron is 20 degrees. I’m guessing the tour only 3 iron is 18 or 17 degrees. If they made a 2 iron, it would be 15.5 or 15 degrees. Now you’re talking my language!




    Been looking into the Hotel Metal Pro's after I was surprised at how nice they are at a demo day. Was going to ask around to see if anyone who had them looked into making a blended/combo set of irons with these as the long irons since they're so strongly lofted, but it looks like the short irons have 5 degrees of gap between them, so didn't know if any short irons would work with them/blend well together with them. Looking forward to testing these out some more and hopefully ordering a set.
  • MatziMatzi Matzi Advanced Members Posts: 284 ✭✭
    Our local golf dome had the ST190 and ST190G available to demo with the plastic on the heads still. They had a bundle of shafts but all regular/stiff atmos and one ts 6x black. I didnt see any sort of wood DNA device, but then again I didnt look very hard.
    Titleist 917 D3 12* - Fujikura Speeder Tour Spec 74x
    Titleist 915F 15 - Fujikura Speeder Tour Spec 84x
    Mizuno MMC Fli-Hi - 3i KBS Tour Hybrid Prototype 105x
    Mizuno MMC Fli-Hi - 4i KBS Tour X
    Mizuno MP-18 MMC 5-7 KBS Tour X
    Mizuno MP-18 MB 8-9 KBS Tour X
    Mizuno T7 46/51/55/59
    Scotty Cameron California Monterey
    Titleist Pro-V1x
  • MorryMorry Advanced Members Posts: 812 ✭✭
    SUMM1T wrote:

    Morry wrote:


    Late joining this thread, so apologies if well discussed already

    But thinking hard about grabbing a 190 Driver - never played a Mizuno club before



    I have a low spin/launch swing and generally hot melt toe or lead tape it to hold off hook as a miss - 100/105 mph speed



    G400 has been the best for me - helps with spin, huge moi, etc



    Any thoughts on whether the 190 would suit me?



    Much appreciated




    The ST190G may be a better fit for you as you'll have more manipulation over flight and spin characteristics. Both are great drivers, but I strongly advise getting fit for the right shaft as that really unlocks these heads.


    I am thinking the 190 is better with higher moi

    Don’t need to manipulate as much as looking for higher spin than average high end driver - like g400 is/was

    Taylor made far too low spin for guys like me - need huge swing speed to ‘unlock’ them

    [font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Ping G400 10.5 - EvenFlow Blue 6.0 / TPT 17 MKP[/font]
    [font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Callaway Fusion 3W - Fuji Evo III S[/font]
    [font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Srixon U65 18* - EvenFlow Blue 85 6.0[/font]
    [font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Taylormade 790 4-P - Modus 105-S[/font]
    [font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Cleveland RTX-4 50, 56, RTX-3 60 - Modus wedge 115,115,125[/font]
    [font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Odyssey V-Line Fang O-Works[/font]
    [font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Callaway CS-X [/font]
  • SUMM1TSUMM1T Advanced Members Posts: 852 ✭✭
    Morry wrote:

    SUMM1T wrote:

    Morry wrote:


    Late joining this thread, so apologies if well discussed already

    But thinking hard about grabbing a 190 Driver - never played a Mizuno club before



    I have a low spin/launch swing and generally hot melt toe or lead tape it to hold off hook as a miss - 100/105 mph speed



    G400 has been the best for me - helps with spin, huge moi, etc



    Any thoughts on whether the 190 would suit me?



    Much appreciated




    The ST190G may be a better fit for you as you'll have more manipulation over flight and spin characteristics. Both are great drivers, but I strongly advise getting fit for the right shaft as that really unlocks these heads.


    I am thinking the 190 is better with higher moi

    Don’t need to manipulate as much as looking for higher spin than average high end driver - like g400 is/was

    Taylor made far too low spin for guys like me - need huge swing speed to ‘unlock’ them




    The ST190 is still a low spin driver even when compared to the ST190G. I have put both side by side and there wasn’t much in it at all. My point was that you have more control over spin conditions with the ST190G because you can move the weights back and forth to help with spin as needed.
  • gsrjcgsrjc TOC Advanced Members Posts: 1,109 ✭✭
    Felt how heavy the ST190 head was today. I’ll be curious whether the swing weight will be too much. Heard it could run E0 or E2 with a 45.5” gram shaft. Has anyone swing weighted theirs with a custom shaft not from Mizuno. I heard since they use a stock 45” shaft it would be better. Amy thoughts?
  • lummers13lummers13 Members Posts: 35
    mBiden2 wrote:


    Any update yet on when the software will come out for the shaft optimizer to include driver/fw shaft recommendations?




    Got our new optimizer in. Has the obvious shaft recommendations but also will measure lie angle in conjunction. There are driver and fw shaft recommendations along with hybrid shafts... but the rep sort of explained it as their recommendations are more based of the same bend profile/flex as the irons. Have yet to test it since it needs iOS and haven’t gotten our iPads in.
    WITB:
    Nike Vapor Fly Pro Pro Orange
    Nike Vapor Speed 3W Green Mamba
    Nike Vapor Fly Pro 2-iron PX
    Nike Vapor Fly Pro 4-PW PX
    Nike Engage SS 54* PX
    Nike Engage DS 60* PX
    Nike Method Origin B1-01
    RZN Tour Platinum/.Platinum

    Taylormade M3 KK XTS
    Taylormade M4 Tour X-torsion Copperhead/7v09 Rombax
    Taylormade UDI PX/Rombax
    Taylormade P750/730 PX
    Taylormade MG/Hi-Toe 48*/54* 60* PX
    Taylormade Spider Tour Black
    TP5
  • IvanDragoIvanDrago Advanced Members Posts: 447 ✭✭
    got rid of my 190 after 2 weeks. couldnt get the spin below 2800 and it was therefore 10-15 yards behind my OG M2.
  • starsail85starsail85 Advanced Members Posts: 4,799
    IvanDrago wrote:


    got rid of my 190 after 2 weeks. couldnt get the spin below 2800 and it was therefore 10-15 yards behind my OG M2.




    Strange , my 190 spins about 500 less than the m2 even with a degree more loft !
    Mizuno ST190G atmos 6s
    Mizuno MP18 2fh / PX 6.0
    Mizuno MP18 3-Pw/ PX 6.0
    Mizuno S18 5310+5812/PX 6.0
    Ping TR Anser 1966/ 34”

    Ball - pro v1x
    Grips - Crossline cord

    Lofts 18 , 21.5, 25, 29, 33, 37, 41, 45, 49, 53, 58
  • trhodetrhode Fitter / Builder Advanced Members Posts: 1,939 ✭✭
    gsrjc wrote:
    Felt how heavy the ST190 head was today. I&#146;ll be curious whether the swing weight will be too much. Heard it could run E0 or E2 with a 45.5&#148; gram shaft. Has anyone swing weighted theirs with a custom shaft not from Mizuno. I heard since they use a stock 45&#148; shaft it would be better. Amy thoughts?




    The G head is approximately 4 grams heavier around 200g.
  • gsrjcgsrjc TOC Advanced Members Posts: 1,109 ✭✭
    trhode wrote:

    gsrjc wrote:
    Felt how heavy the ST190 head was today. I’ll be curious whether the swing weight will be too much. Heard it could run E0 or E2 with a 45.5” gram shaft. Has anyone swing weighted theirs with a custom shaft not from Mizuno. I heard since they use a stock 45” shaft it would be better. Amy thoughts?




    The G head is approximately 4 grams heavier around 200g.




    Oh ok on the G head. Club champion only had the regular and it’s swing weight was E0. I need the lower spin so I’ll be interested how it feels.
  • trhodetrhode Fitter / Builder Advanced Members Posts: 1,939 ✭✭
    CC also use Faz-fit connectors on all of their heads which makes the heads heavier.
  • Nixhex524Nixhex524 ClubWRX Charter Members Posts: 3,917 ClubWRX
    IvanDrago wrote:


    got rid of my 190 after 2 weeks. couldnt get the spin below 2800 and it was therefore 10-15 yards behind my OG M2.




    What shaft in it?
    Mizuno ST190G 9* Fujikura Atmos black 6s TS
    Titleist 915f 15.75* Fujikura Speeder Evo 757 TS
    Titleist 816 H1 19* Fujikura Motore Speeder 8.8 TS
    Bridgestone J15CB 4-P DG X100
    Titleist SM6 52/58 S200/Spinner
    Scotty Cameron NP2 '16
    Srixon Z Star XV
  • IvanDragoIvanDrago Advanced Members Posts: 447 ✭✭
    Nixhex524 wrote:
    IvanDrago wrote:
    got rid of my 190 after 2 weeks. couldnt get the spin below 2800 and it was therefore 10-15 yards behind my OG M2.
    What shaft in it?




    atmos black ts

    oban white

    oban black



    all produced spin around 3000.



    oban white in my m2 was about 2200 to 2400
  • DrudershDrudersh ClubWRX Charter Members Posts: 2,881 ClubWRX
    Was keen to hit the 190 so I went down to 2nd swing this weekend and jumped on a Trackman and hit it against this stupid Ping G LS that I just can't get out of my bag and found that I still can't get this stupid Ping G LS out of my bag. Swinging both around 106-108 mph I was getting 260+ carry and 280+ total out of the Ping and mid 250's carry out of the ST190 and mid 270's total. The spin was actually better with the ST190 10.5 head at neutral, around 2500-2600 vs around 2900 with the Ping but the launch was so low that the other numbers suffered. We played around with heads and loft settings and when we tuned up the ST190 head we just saw an increase in spin and a decrease in carry numbers. Ping has an AD DJ 6x in it and we were using the Tensei Orange in the Mizuno.



    Looks great, feels great, will probably work well for guys who already hit it high and want to reduce their spin #'s a little bit but it wasn't working for me.
    Ping G 10.5 Tour 65s
    Ping G 14.5 Tour 80x
    Titleist 716 T-MB 3 Iron AD DI 95x
    Ping Anser Forged Project X 6.0
    Ping Glide 50*SS, 54*SS, 58*SS Project X 6.0
    Odyssey Versa 2-Ball
  • Nixhex524Nixhex524 ClubWRX Charter Members Posts: 3,917 ClubWRX
    IvanDrago wrote:

    Nixhex524 wrote:
    IvanDrago wrote:
    got rid of my 190 after 2 weeks. couldnt get the spin below 2800 and it was therefore 10-15 yards behind my OG M2.
    What shaft in it?




    atmos black ts

    oban white

    oban black



    all produced spin around 3000.



    oban white in my m2 was about 2200 to 2400




    Interesting... I am wondering if these heads aren't as low spinning as some others...
    Mizuno ST190G 9* Fujikura Atmos black 6s TS
    Titleist 915f 15.75* Fujikura Speeder Evo 757 TS
    Titleist 816 H1 19* Fujikura Motore Speeder 8.8 TS
    Bridgestone J15CB 4-P DG X100
    Titleist SM6 52/58 S200/Spinner
    Scotty Cameron NP2 '16
    Srixon Z Star XV
  • Broessner71Broessner71 Members Posts: 52 ✭✭
    Sounds like a reasonable question to ask agreed
  • Cottonseed.Cottonseed. Advanced Members Posts: 140 ✭✭
    Drudersh wrote:


    Was keen to hit the 190 so I went down to 2nd swing this weekend and jumped on a Trackman and hit it against this stupid Ping G LS that I just can't get out of my bag and found that I still can't get this stupid Ping G LS out of my bag. Swinging both around 106-108 mph I was getting 260+ carry and 280+ total out of the Ping and mid 250's carry out of the ST190 and mid 270's total. The spin was actually better with the ST190 10.5 head at neutral, around 2500-2600 vs around 2900 with the Ping but the launch was so low that the other numbers suffered. We played around with heads and loft settings and when we tuned up the ST190 head we just saw an increase in spin and a decrease in carry numbers. Ping has an AD DJ 6x in it and we were using the Tensei Orange in the Mizuno.



    Looks great, feels great, will probably work well for guys who already hit it high and want to reduce their spin #'s a little bit but it wasn't working for me.




    This is funny.

    I'm the same way with my G30.

    Ancient clubs in today's age.
  • 518TitleistX518TitleistX NYSGA Champion Advanced Members Posts: 1,350 ✭✭
    Ive got 3 shafts that im going to test out in the ST190G head.

    Tensei Pro Orange 70Tx

    Atmos Black 6x tipped .5"

    A'hina Ion 60X



    The winner will get the spot in the bag. ive hit the Atmos Black in it already and it seemed very solid. would like to get on a Flightscope or Trackman to get real numbers and see what the real winner ends up being.
    Mizuno ST190G 7* Atmos Black TS 6x
    Titleist 917F2 13.5* D+80TX
    Titleist 818H2 19* Speeder HYB 8.8X
    Mizuno 919Tour PX LZ 6.5 5-9i
    Mizuno S18 44*, 49* 54*, 59*
    Scotty Cameron Newport Beach

    WITB Link
  • KParksKParks Members Posts: 56 ✭✭
    Anyone had any experience with the fairway woods yet?



    Looking at getting some new stuff for the top of the bag and thinking to give these a go but thought I'd see what others had found out so far first as well (as well as any comparisons to other stuff out there if you've got opinions!).



    Probably will get a 3 wood and a 5 wood cause I've yet to find a hybrid that really agrees with me.
  • SUMM1TSUMM1T Advanced Members Posts: 852 ✭✭
    KParks wrote:
    Anyone had any experience with the fairway woods yet?



    Looking at getting some new stuff for the top of the bag and thinking to give these a go but thought I'd see what others had found out so far first as well (as well as any comparisons to other stuff out there if you've got opinions!).



    Probably will get a 3 wood and a 5 wood cause I've yet to find a hybrid that really agrees with me.




    The ST190 TS is giving me some great numbers. Ball speeds are super high. The profile will suit the player who hits their fairway woods high and spin a little too much. It has a deeper profile which some may consider harder to hit off the deck. Looks great at address, sits open a little and the sound is good. All in all, it should be something that everyone tries.
  • reider69reider69 Advanced Members Posts: 572 ✭✭
    I was fitted for the ST190 today. I liked the sound and feel of the 190 over the 190G so we went that route. Wind was blowing directly into our face but managed to hit some long shots. Tried 5 different shafts and landed on the Kuro Kage 70x, tipped an inch and set with toe up. 8.5 degrees of loft. I played 18 in the cold and wind yesterday( 3rd round of 2019) and my back was very sore today but I was hitting 115 mph swing speed. I felt much slower than normal so I was pleased with that number. I hit a bunch of the face today and was still carrying good distances into the wind. This driver is much much more forgiving than my F7. Shots not hit in middle also felt much better than the F7. I love the look, feel and sound of this driver. Now that I have been properly fit for the first time ever for a driver I am going to work hard to dial in my swing to this setup. No more tinkering. As a side note the fitter gave me two 2-packs of the new balls to try. Excited to let those babies fly as soon as I get my driver. I was told 5 days at the longest for wait time. Side note #2 my CTLX shaft snapped on my 8 iron while practicing on mats a few weeks ago. Mizuno paid for shipping both ways and fixed it free of charge with brand new NDMC grip. A week turnaround. Shaft was on a 2.5 year old iron and not even Mizunos fault.....this is 3rd ctaper shaft I have snapped. I love Mizuno!
    Cobra F7 - Matrix Ozik Black Tie M4 70 X
    Cobra BioCell+ - Matrix Ozik Red Tie 6Q3 X
    Cobra BioCell 3-4 Hybrid - Aldila Rogue Black 85 X
    Mizuno JPX 900 Forged 4-G, KBS C Taper Lite X
    Ping Glide Stealth 2.0 - 54 and 58 - Modus 105X
    Callaway Xforged - 64 degrees
    Lajosi DD201 Proto
  • Nixhex524Nixhex524 ClubWRX Charter Members Posts: 3,917 ClubWRX
    Got my 190G out today for the first time on the course... It was playing firm in the fairways so roll was plentiful. I am sure that contributed but I was in places i have never been on this course before and it seemed like point and shoot until I started to get tired at the end. I was extremely skeptical of what this driver would do on the course after some terrible shots at the range earlier in the week... It more than performed for me and was seriously impressive distance wise. Misses on the toe were punished but still got some decent distance... but out of the middle and this thing is a rocket launcher... I am seriously impressed, I don't know what else to say really. Stoked.
    Mizuno ST190G 9* Fujikura Atmos black 6s TS
    Titleist 915f 15.75* Fujikura Speeder Evo 757 TS
    Titleist 816 H1 19* Fujikura Motore Speeder 8.8 TS
    Bridgestone J15CB 4-P DG X100
    Titleist SM6 52/58 S200/Spinner
    Scotty Cameron NP2 '16
    Srixon Z Star XV
  • Micrys2Micrys2 Advanced Members Posts: 436
    Quick question for everyone who has ordered the Driver lately. Is this thing back ordered? I was wanting to be fit at 2 different clubfitters and neither one had any heads. What gives?
  • reider69reider69 Advanced Members Posts: 572 ✭✭
    Micrys2 wrote:


    Quick question for everyone who has ordered the Driver lately. Is this thing back ordered? I was wanting to be fit at 2 different clubfitters and neither one had any heads. What gives?


    I was fit two days ago and fitter had both heads and all the shafts. They told me I would have driver in 5 business days at the latest. That doesnt sound like there is a supply issue.
    Cobra F7 - Matrix Ozik Black Tie M4 70 X
    Cobra BioCell+ - Matrix Ozik Red Tie 6Q3 X
    Cobra BioCell 3-4 Hybrid - Aldila Rogue Black 85 X
    Mizuno JPX 900 Forged 4-G, KBS C Taper Lite X
    Ping Glide Stealth 2.0 - 54 and 58 - Modus 105X
    Callaway Xforged - 64 degrees
    Lajosi DD201 Proto
  • Micrys2Micrys2 Advanced Members Posts: 436
    Doesn’t sound like it. Maybe I just went to the wrong fitter, LOL.



    Thanks
  • blackngold_bloodblackngold_blood Golf Ball Whacker Guy Advanced Members Posts: 899 ✭✭
    To those that have seen and hit both the 190 and the 190g, are they the same head shape? Or is one deeper faced and a smaller profile?



    Thanks

    Mark
    WITB

    Work in progress and will be updated after St. Andrews!!


    Ball: OnCore Elixr
  • BlackM00NlightBlackM00Nlight Advanced Members Posts: 3,142 ✭✭


    To those that have seen and hit both the 190 and the 190g, are they the same head shape? Or is one deeper faced and a smaller profile?



    Thanks

    Mark




    I’m impatiently waiting to find one to demo in Iowa!
    Nike Vapor Fly 10.5 Tensei Blue 55 X
    Nike Vapor Fly 15 Tensei Blue 65F X
    [font=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]Nike Vapor Pro Combo 2-A wedge AMT X100 (plus 1/2" 3 up)[/font]
    [font=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]Nike Engage Dual Sole 58 DG S400 (plus 1/2" 3up)[/font]
    [font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Nike Origin B1-01 [/font][font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]35" put[/font][font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]ter[/font]
    [font=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]Nike RZN Tour Platinum[/font]
    [font=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]Nike TW 71 White/Pure Platinum[/font]
    [font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Nike TW 71 Wolf Grey/University Red[/font]
    [font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Nike TW 15 University Red/Black[/font]

    [font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Nike TW 15 Metallic Silver/Black[/font]
    [font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Nike TW 15 Black/University Red[/font]
    [font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Nike TW 15 Midnight Navy/Black[/font]
    [font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Nike Lunar Vapor Storm Black/Solar Red[/font]
    [font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Nike Performance Cart IV Black/Silver[/font]
    [font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Nike Vapor Fly Umbrella[/font]
    [font=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]Bag Boy [/font]Tri-Swivel II Push-Cart Black
  • mpmz71mpmz71 Members Posts: 75 ✭✭


    To those that have seen and hit both the 190 and the 190g, are they the same head shape? Or is one deeper faced and a smaller profile?



    Thanks

    Mark




    They are similar in size but slightly different in shape. If I remember correctly, the G is a little more round/symmetrical. The 190 is slightly more tear drop shaped. You really have to stare to see the difference. I can't comment on the face difference.
  • blackngold_bloodblackngold_blood Golf Ball Whacker Guy Advanced Members Posts: 899 ✭✭
    edited March 15



    To those that have seen and hit both the 190 and the 190g, are they the same head shape? Or is one deeper faced and a smaller profile?



    Thanks

    Mark




    I’m impatiently waiting to find one to demo in Iowa!




    If I remember correctly THansen on here is a Mizuno dealer. He has a place in Fort Dodge with 2 aboutGolf simulators. I haven't made it down there yet this winter but I will hopefully soon.
    WITB

    Work in progress and will be updated after St. Andrews!!


    Ball: OnCore Elixr
Sign In or Register to comment.