What does a pro golfer owe the media?

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  • NevinWNevinW Las VegasClubWRX Posts: 1,111 ClubWRX
    20 years ago I would have agreed that it was important that players really try to communicate and cooperate with the media, but so much today is hyperventilation and sensationalism with very little effort to obtain the truth before running with the story that I have to say that I don't blame players for being extremely guarded in their dealings with them.
  • jmkenn0jmkenn0 Members Posts: 674 ✭✭
    In sports especially, the media was how you got most of the stories even 10 years. Now I can basically watch as much golf/football/basketball as I have time for, find replays, etc. The product really is what's no the field (course), so the media is basically left with an audience that is people frothing at the mouth to talk about sports, while the rest of us just watched it on TV.



    They all long for the day they can be grantland rice, jim murray, etc, but that ship has sailed. We don't need flowing prose to describe something that's on TV and we can witness it with our own two eyes.
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  • IVMIVM Posts: 454 ✭✭
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    It used to be that the pro needed the media for exposure and that was why they gave so many interviews. Today with social media it is probably not so important . But the sponsors still require the pro to get exposure either through interviews or by advertising .

    The pro owes the media for exposure that the quotes in the newspaper gives the player although this can be a two way street when the media want a quote on something that the pro doesn’t want to talk about but they need a comment .
  • tideridertiderider Members Posts: 1,483 ✭✭
    what, exactly, is a golfer supposed to say when they don't play well? ... what, precisely, was phil supposed to say, other than 'we played worse than they did, hence they won'? ... yes, they owe their time, and they should put some thought into it ... but i'm reminded of an interview bobby knight gave shortly after an IU win against an opponent ... "coach, what was the difference tonight?" ... "well, leslie, i don't know that there was a difference ... you know, sometimes, one team just makes more shots before the clock runs out" ....



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  • new2g0lfnew2g0lf Members Posts: 3,309 ✭✭
    Politics aside, the media has lost a lot of credibility in the electronic era. Everyone claims to be an influencer, blogger, reporter, etc and hardly anyone of them are qualified or understand the fundamentals of journalistic integrity. Even among the top golf reporters in the field we see hack stories written strictly for click bait, facts are an annoyance and the whole game is to be the first one to report the story no matter how inaccurate it is.



    Given that why would any pro golfer owe anything to the media? It used to be reporters had a relationships with athletes, especially the local guys. They would get exclusives in exchange for some common courtesy of giving the guy a heads up if there was some negative talk going on.



    If I was a pro golfer I'd do what was minimally required by the PGA Tour and nothing else. I'd give one word answers or non-substantive answers as there's no benefit today to being friendly with the press.
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  • MadGolfer76MadGolfer76 Admiration is the state furthest from understanding. Members Posts: 19,847 ✭✭
    Are they even obliged at all to talk to the media? Always wondered what would happen if a player snubbed them entirely.
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  • GolfChannelGolfChannel Orlando, FloridaMembers Posts: 1,640 ✭✭
    Are they even obliged at all to talk to the media? Always wondered what would happen if a player snubbed them entirely.




    Assuming they would be fined by the Tour.
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  • deadsolid...shankdeadsolid...shank ClubWRX Posts: 14,616 ClubWRX
    Listening to some of the questions they get asked, I have to admire their restraint. The people who said there is no such thing as a stupid question have never listened to reporters.
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  • Golfer4LifeGolfer4Life Bob Parsons Bodyguard, Chump! ClubWRX Posts: 2,152
    Ferguson wrote:


    Phil owes us an explanation about his "lackluster play" as a "veteran leader" in the Ryder Cup, the "sudden" removal of Bones from the bag, the "thought process" behind the putting incident at the US OPEN, and his "alleged" dealings with insider trading.



    Other than that, I'm good.




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  • SullGolfSullGolf Members Posts: 8,746 ✭✭
    By default Phil doesn't owe anyone in the media anything.



    However, he has been pretty opinionated and outspoken after the previous two Ryder Cups. And the media took his back and helped him get some of the team changes he wanted to see. I think he "owes" the media the same level of outspokenness this time around, even though it may not be to his advantage now. He should speak out about his experiences on the team this year, with the same candor as he spoke in 2014 when complaining about Tom Watson.
  • NaptimeNaptime Members Posts: 599 ✭✭
    At some level the pros owe their bank accounts to the media. Without TV broadcast income the purses would be a lot less. Without the golf writers most of them would be largely anonymous and their endorsement deals would be lighter.
  • OldTomMorrisOldTomMorris Members Posts: 2,084 ClubWRX
    Interesting post-round comments from Phil regarding the Ryder Cup particularly in terms of the venue setup but given what he said he should never have been picked.



    The setup was no secret and neither is Phil's style of play so why was Phil selected for this match?
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  • smashdnsmashdn Let's cut them trees down. Posts: 935 ✭✭
    I like Amanda Balionis' interviews.



    I don't think that it is necessarily that she is an awesome interviewer but that given what she is asking and has at her disposal, giant screen to replay shots, you at least get a look inside the head of a pro golfer regarding what they are thinking facing certain shots.



    Plus she is good looking. She could interview an eggplant and I would likely watch.
  • dlygrissedlygrisse Members Posts: 13,013 ✭✭
    edited Oct 5, 2018 #46
    He owes them a presser. He will be asked questions. He might answer them candidly or he might say “no comment”.



    The media made these guys rich and famous so they really just owe the media an opportunity to be put on the spot. If we don t like the answer then we can judge as fans. LOL it’s not a grand jury.

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  • josh21120josh21120 Members Posts: 34
    SullGolf wrote:
    By default Phil doesn't owe anyone in the media anything.



    However, he has been pretty opinionated and outspoken after the previous two Ryder Cups. And the media took his back and helped him get some of the team changes he wanted to see. I think he "owes" the media the same level of outspokenness this time around, even though it may not be to his advantage now. He should speak out about his experiences on the team this year, with the same candor as he spoke in 2014 when complaining about Tom Watson.




    He did speak of this year’s team and leadership, as well as his poor performance.
  • puttingmattputtingmatt puttingmatt Members Posts: 5,037 ✭✭
    Here's the thing, A year from now, everyone will say Europe won !

    And a week from now , no one will remember what Reamer and Hack said,


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  • bladehunterbladehunter Today was a good day.... Members Posts: 25,060 ✭✭


    Listening to some of the questions they get asked, I have to admire their restraint. The people who said there is no such thing as a stupid question have never listened to reporters.




    Bingo. That’s why I love an old school tiger interview. Love it. He cuts some reporters off at the knees. Yes I watch interviews of certain people. I enjoy the mental battle from media to player. Stenson , Woods , Spieth , Mickelson , Dustin Johnson. All masters at that craft.



    Yes I said DJ. He rarely if ever responds to a question directly. Almost always a rambling left field statement involving lots of idunos , and uhhhh, and I just dos. Love that he makes them work and gives them nothing. At least until Paulina came along. Lol
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    Listening to some of the questions they get asked, I have to admire their restraint. The people who said there is no such thing as a stupid question have never listened to reporters.




    There's no such thing as a stupid question, just stupid people that ask questions.
  • ea19ea19 future hall of famer Posts: 394 ✭✭
    I think they owe it to comment. The media is our conduit to them - they should comment and speak to the fans, and the typical way is through the media. We are the paying public, watching public, paying the salary so yes, I think they owe it.



    I also think Phil - as a leader and someone who did not do super well - it would be nice to hear his perspective.



    No one is forcing him to comment on specific things or personal things but I do think he / they should comment. They do a ton of press and hype before the event - to get us to attend, watch, be invested in the outcome. The 'leaders' have gone pretty radio silent.
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  • DestroyerDestroyer Posts: 329 ✭✭
    he needs to go beast mode "i am here cause the pga told me to be here" image/taunt.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':taunt:' />
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  • BrockPSUBrockPSU Members Posts: 243 ✭✭
    Patrick Reed and his family owe everyone on the planet to stay far far far far far far far far far far far away from any type of media.
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    Destroyer wrote:


    he needs to go beast mode "i am here cause the pga told me to be here" image/taunt.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':taunt:' />




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  • umassgolferumassgolfer Posts: 770 ✭✭
    BrockPSU wrote:


    Patrick Reed and his family owe everyone on the planet to stay far far far far far far far far far far far away from any type of media.




    Respectfully disagree. I would pay to see a bi-weekly update on what kind of nonsense they're brainwashing themselves into believing.
  • Dave230Dave230 Posts: 3,748 ✭✭
    edited Oct 5, 2018 #57
    Everybody loves to give out about the media but take it away and people would complain it wasn't there. The players are playing for prizes like $15m jackpots now, the least they can do is answer a few questions in a genuine and honest way.



    Golfers owe it to media, a good golf writer will broadcast their greatest moments in a way they can always look back on with pride. Have to take the rough with the smooth.



    Rory McIlroy has had plenty of comments in the media spun in all sorts of directions but is well respected in the press room. His interview with Paul Kimmage in the Sunday Independent last year was an example of good journalism benefiting a player.
  • SNIPERBBBSNIPERBBB Hit Ball Hard Members Posts: 2,070 ✭✭
    Unless you really got something you want to say, everybody should take a page from Bill Bellicheck' pressers...Might improve the questions and reduce inane nonsense we have to endure.
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  • OldTomMorrisOldTomMorris Members Posts: 2,084 ClubWRX
    edited Oct 7, 2018 #59



    Listening to some of the questions they get asked, I have to admire their restraint. The people who said there is no such thing as a stupid question have never listened to reporters.




    Bingo. That's why I love an old school tiger interview. Love it. He cuts some reporters off at the knees. Yes I watch interviews of certain people. I enjoy the mental battle from media to player. Stenson , Woods , Spieth , Mickelson , Dustin Johnson. All masters at that craft.



    Yes I said DJ. He rarely if ever responds to a question directly. Almost always a rambling left field statement involving lots of idunos , and uhhhh, and I just dos. Love that he makes them work and gives them nothing. At least until Paulina came along. Lol




    Love it, really?!



    Tiger in his prime was completely horrible with the media not even directly answering some of the most softball questions ever. He was the face of golf and off the course he was often awful. He basically gave fans zero insight. Tiger 2.0 is thankfully much more interesting but not quite the same player.



    For the record I think the work his foundation does is amazing and Tiger doesn't get enough credit for it.



    Funny when he wanted to make his big apology post fire hydrant he suddenly wanted the media's help and he got it with wall to wall coverage of his press conference.



    Just a few simple direct answers its not that difficult. I'm not expecting players to spill their guts on everything, in fact in the era of oversharing I don't really want that.



    Most of the interviews are completely boring but there is genuine interest in certain matters ie. US Ryder Cup
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  • ItsjustagameItsjustagame Members Posts: 1,262 ✭✭
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    Entertainers (including athletes) and politicians can't survive and make their millions without the media. They love em when it's positive attention and hate it when it's negative.
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  • umassgolferumassgolfer Posts: 770 ✭✭
    I think I take umbrage with the term "owe" in this conversation. I appreciate hearing all the inside scoops, gossip, etc. when the media shares them. But the term "owe" implies some sense of expectation or entitlement .



    Just because they are public figures by their choice of profession does not mean we as fans should expect any minimum level of accessibility. It's not like they're public officials voted into office and charged with the task of protecting or serving our society.
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