listing of the rarest/most collectible vintage clubs? (website/WRX thread link)

Can anyone point me in the direction of a website or thread on here that talks about which models and vintage of persimmon and irons are most collectible and or rare/desirable? I've gleaned a bit here and there from individual threads on a specific oem here and there, but was wondering if there was something or somewhere that had a lot of that information in one place. Thanks

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  • rex235rex235 ClubWRX Posts: 3,966 ClubWRX
    Orange-



    It's been a few years, but this is Mike Doherty's work.



    http://www.advancedballstriking.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=202&t=1272
  • SteveNZSteveNZ Members Posts: 632
    rex speaks the truth. Between there and here, you will find all you need.
  • OrangeGravyOrangeGravy WAMembers Posts: 1,138 ✭✭
    rex235 wrote:


    Orange-



    It's been a few years, but this is Mike Doherty's work.



    http://www.advancedb...hp?f=202&t=1272




    Thanks Rex
  • xgolfxxgolfx Members Posts: 1,074 ✭✭
    In my opinion, the

    Doherty list is out of date. There are too many MacGregor store clubs on the list. Rember , at that time, when a mistake was made on a head, a cheaper grip and shaft was installed to make a store line item. Specifically, Armour and Suggs woods were rejected after comparison to the specs demanded of the top line for those signatures.



    If rare is defined as quality , store clubs are not rare



    CHARLEY PENNA
  • rex235rex235 ClubWRX Posts: 3,966 ClubWRX
    Charley-



    No one questions you possess more than common knowledge about MacGregor clubs, and the game in general for nearly 80 years.



    That's why you remain "two books easy".



    If you choose not to do it, no one else will.



    It's Doherty's POV, and one has to give him his due on putting the knowledge and history of golf equipment out there.



    It may not be a contemporary look, but it is a look.
  • BIG STUBIG STU Members Posts: 11,166 ✭✭
    I noticed something interesting briefly going through some of the stuff. there is a Macgregor Driver stamped on the bottom with TP as in Toney Penna but the "T" is shaped like a golf tee and the P is as a regular P. I have never seen that stamped on a Macgregor club like that. Now I do have a Toney Penna blonde driver with that stamp on the bottom like that but no model number or Oil Hardened or Handmade. Only TP driver I have ever seen without the model number stamped on it
    Driver: Homna G1-X Homna stock Regular shaft
    FW Adams Tight Lies 16* Diamana Reg
    Irons 3 thru 9 KZG Kyoei Forged CB 1st generation Swing Science 400 Graphite Senior flex
    PW Cleveland Special 588 45* bent to 47* Stock Cleveland Steel Shaft
    SW Cleveland 588 56* DG Sensicore S-300 ( old dependable)
    Putter- 1997 Scotty Cameron Santa Fe Bulls Eye fluted shaft rusty and lead taped as heck named "Rusty"
    Bag-- Jones Classic non stand
    Founding Father of Outlaw Golf Association member #1---- Play what you want **** the USGA & R&A
    Redneck Hippie Golf When the Tailgate drops the BS Stops
    Vintage
    Toney Penna Model 1 Aldila HM-40
    3&4 woods Macgregor DX Keyhole steel TT R
    Irons 2 thru 9 1954 Hogan Precision TT green or 1980 Macgregor VIP 3 thru PW Hogan Apex #2 shafts " The famous Bastardized Macs"
    PW Hogan White Cameo 50* Hogan Apex Wedge
    SW Macgregor LRA 56* S-400 DJ Special-- Will rotate out when old dependable does not behave
    Putter ( subject to change) Lil David 8802
    Bag Old School Power Bilt orange mini staff
  • xgolfxxgolfx Members Posts: 1,074 ✭✭
    Show me a picture please



    CHARLEY PENNA
  • rex235rex235 ClubWRX Posts: 3,966 ClubWRX
    Stu-



    Just the "TP" by itself? No Oil Hardened? "Super Eye O Matic" soleplate?



    Please show us a photo.
  • OrangeGravyOrangeGravy WAMembers Posts: 1,138 ✭✭
    rex235 wrote:


    Stu-



    Just the "TP" by itself? No Oil Hardened? "Super Eye O Matic" soleplate?



    Please show us a photo.




    Hey Rex and/or Charley,



    I have a Driver, 2w, 4w that match the description of the MacGregor Tourney RT2W Velocitized woods in Mike Doherty's publication you linked me to with one exception. Instead of RT2W, the stamp above the sole plate is PT25W. Do either of you have any idea what the PT25W means? I see that there are Penna Tourney woods (PT2W/PT1W) that translate to Penna Tour/Tourney, 1 Pro-Pel shaft, but I don't see anything with a PT25W anywhere.
  • rex235rex235 ClubWRX Posts: 3,966 ClubWRX
    Orange-



    According to the Kaplan Compilation of MacGregor catalogs-



    The PT Series is listed on page 4 of the 1958 MacGregor Professional Catalog.



    PT25W is specifically listed in the lower right hand corner of the page.
  • OrangeGravyOrangeGravy WAMembers Posts: 1,138 ✭✭
    rex235 wrote:


    Orange-



    According to the Kaplan Compilation of MacGregor catalogs-



    The PT Series is listed on page 4 of the 1958 MacGregor Professional Catalog.



    PT25W is specifically listed in the lower right hand corner of the page.




    That's a nice book. Thanks
  • SteveNZSteveNZ Members Posts: 632

    rex235 wrote:


    Orange-



    According to the Kaplan Compilation of MacGregor catalogs-



    The PT Series is listed on page 4 of the 1958 MacGregor Professional Catalog.



    PT25W is specifically listed in the lower right hand corner of the page.




    That's a nice book. Thanks




    So what does the code PT25W signify, out of interest? Other than it's a wood, obviously :-)
  • OrangeGravyOrangeGravy WAMembers Posts: 1,138 ✭✭
    SteveNZ wrote:


    rex235 wrote:


    Orange-



    According to the Kaplan Compilation of MacGregor catalogs-



    The PT Series is listed on page 4 of the 1958 MacGregor Professional Catalog.



    PT25W is specifically listed in the lower right hand corner of the page.




    That's a nice book. Thanks




    So what does the code PT25W signify, out of interest? Other than it's a wood, obviously :-)




    1958, longer at 44"(also making effective lie angle flatter), Pro-Pel 2 shaft, fancy 2 tone grip, Rosewood stain, larger insert. It's the OEM catalog, so it's just the product description. It's not going to say anything about where it might stand in the vintage world. They're pretty nice looking though. I haven't hit them yet. I got them for free, so can't complain!
  • rex235rex235 ClubWRX Posts: 3,966 ClubWRX
    Orange-



    Vintage or otherwiise-



    It would help if you posted a photo.
  • OrangeGravyOrangeGravy WAMembers Posts: 1,138 ✭✭
    rex235 wrote:


    Orange-



    Vintage or otherwiise-



    It would help if you posted a photo.




    I'll post some this weekend, maybe tomorrow. I also got a Mac DX 5w and an old Wilson 4300 3w with no insert, gray shaft with 2 yellow bands, cool old leather grip.



    The PT25W's are in ok shape. The driver is a bit rough, but the 2w/4w are in better shape structurally.
  • OrangeGravyOrangeGravy WAMembers Posts: 1,138 ✭✭
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