Titleist backorder 8.5 heads?...

Anyone heard anything about Titleist having a backorder on ts3 8.5 heads? I placed an order a couple of weeks ago and called to inquire about delivery and was told buy the person I bought it from that they were running short of them. Just trying to figure out if the salesman is telling the truth or just forgot to place the order. I only ask because I check this forum religiously and it seems I would have heard something if that was the case.

Where are you based?

I'm in Scotland and ordered my TS3 a week and a half before the release date and was told that they were on back order already for them and that my club would arrive two and a half weeks later than the release date but then it turned up a week and a half earlier than that. I trust the information that I was given, I've known the Pro who ordered it since we were juniors playing golf at the same club every day.

Where are you based?

 

I'm in Scotland and ordered my TS3 a week and a half before the release date and was told that they were on back order already for them and that my club would arrive two and a half weeks later than the release date but then it turned up a week and a half earlier than that. I trust the information that I was given, I've known the Pro who ordered it since we were juniors playing golf at the same club every day.

Based in Florida. Thanks for the info. I’m just a little antsy because this is the last weekend I’ll be able to play a lot before the time changes and I wanted my driver before then. Patience is a virtue right?

In the present era of high launch, low spin drivers, have you ever thought they never made that many 8.5 heads in the first place? Only guys with insanely high swing speeds (120+ MPH) can benefit a driver head with a loft that low.

I've been waiting a month on my 9.5.

I ordered a TS3 8.5 with evenflow T1100 X (lefty) on 10/19 and haven't heard anything from my local store and Titleist is normally VERY FAST. I am going up there in a few minutes to find out whats going on.

It makes sense. They usually make a ton of 9.5 and 10.5 heads first to stock shelves and then the 8.5 heads come later.

In the present era of high launch, low spin drivers, have you ever thought they never made that many 8.5 heads in the first place? Only guys with insanely high swing speeds (120+ MPH) can benefit a driver head with a loft that low.

Yeah, but during a fitting, the 8.5 is going to give the highest ballspeed and since that's what folks are looking for with these, that is the head that people are going to be tempted with.

In the present era of high launch, low spin drivers, have you ever thought they never made that many 8.5 heads in the first place? Only guys with insanely high swing speeds (120+ MPH) can benefit a driver head with a loft that low.

Lol. Plenty of 105 guys with AoA of +4 can play low loft. 10 deg actual loft plus +4 AoA is a 3 wood.

In the present era of high launch, low spin drivers, have you ever thought they never made that many 8.5 heads in the first place? Only guys with insanely high swing speeds (120+ MPH) can benefit a driver head with a loft that low.

 

Lol. Plenty of 105 guys with AoA of +4 can play low loft. 10 deg actual loft plus +4 AoA is a 3 wood.

Thanks for saying what I was about to say Blade.

I was fitted into an 8.5. My swing speed is 109mph. Angle of attack is between +3 and +4. I was in 9.5 but fitter suggested trying an 8.5. Ball speed was exactly the same but the ball flight was much more controlled, nothing floating too much.

Where are you based?

 

I'm in Scotland and ordered my TS3 a week and a half before the release date and was told that they were on back order already for them and that my club would arrive two and a half weeks later than the release date but then it turned up a week and a half earlier than that. I trust the information that I was given, I've known the Pro who ordered it since we were juniors playing golf at the same club every day.

 

Based in Florida. Thanks for the info. I’m just a little antsy because this is the last weekend I’ll be able to play a lot before the time changes and I wanted my driver before then. Patience is a virtue right?

I was similar with weather and course conditions, etc. Then when it arrived, I had pulled some ligaments in my wrist anyway so I have had it out for 10 holes before i thought it wasn't worth it because it was just making my wrist worse.

I’m at 107 and 8.5 works great for me. 9.5 was a hair high. 8.5 seems to be the perfect mix of carry and roll.

I'm at 107 and 8.5 works great for me. 9.5 was a hair high. 8.5 seems to be the perfect mix of carry and roll.

We must be exceptions as opposed to the rule! Haha.

It makes sense. They usually make a ton of 9.5 and 10.5 heads first to stock shelves and then the 8.5 heads come later.

A review of Titleist staff tour players TS selections shows: There are more than twice as many TS3's in play as TS2's; the most popular loft is 9.5*; the second most popular loft is 10.5*; there are as many 11.5*'s in play as 8.5*'s (only 5 out of 33 TS3's in play are 8.5*), and one of those is indicated in the D4 (+.75) SureFit position (Jimmy Walker).

It makes sense. They usually make a ton of 9.5 and 10.5 heads first to stock shelves and then the 8.5 heads come later.

Just an FYI general response to the loft debate developing, and not a direct response to the above.

 

A review of Titleist staff tour players TS selections shows: There are more than twice as many TS3's in play as TS2's; the most popular loft is 9.5*; the second most popular loft is 10.5*; there are as many 11.5*'s in play as 8.5*'s (only 5 out of 33 TS3's in play are 8.5*), and one of those is indicated in the D4 (+.75) SureFit position (Jimmy Walker).

I play my ts3 in d4 because it makes it look more square to me.

Weren’t there usually more D3 heads in okay over D2 heads in the past.

I think the back order is great indicator that these new drivers are going to be great for Titleist.

It makes sense. They usually make a ton of 9.5 and 10.5 heads first to stock shelves and then the 8.5 heads come later.

Just an FYI general response to the loft debate developing, and not a direct response to the above.

 

A review of Titleist staff tour players TS selections shows: There are more than twice as many TS3's in play as TS2's; the most popular loft is 9.5*; the second most popular loft is 10.5*; there are as many 11.5*'s in play as 8.5*'s (only 5 out of 33 TS3's in play are 8.5*), and one of those is indicated in the D4 (+.75) SureFit position (Jimmy Walker).

 

I play my ts3 in d4 because it makes it look more square to me.

 

Weren't there usually more D3 heads in okay over D2 heads in the past.

 

I think the back order is great indicator that these new drivers are going to be great for Titleist.

The numbers are trending substantially in favor of the "3" model on tour currently.

I was fit yesterday for a TS3 8.5 turned down to D1, swing speed right at 100 with a positive AOA

It makes sense. They usually make a ton of 9.5 and 10.5 heads first to stock shelves and then the 8.5 heads come later.

Just an FYI general response to the loft debate developing, and not a direct response to the above.

 

A review of Titleist staff tour players TS selections shows: There are more than twice as many TS3's in play as TS2's; the most popular loft is 9.5*; the second most popular loft is 10.5*; there are as many 11.5*'s in play as 8.5*'s (only 5 out of 33 TS3's in play are 8.5*), and one of those is indicated in the D4 (+.75) SureFit position (Jimmy Walker).

Part of the reason is so that they can get the face angle they want. Play a higher loft and open it up ( loft down ) to an open angle. The second reason is that most pros hit down or level on their driver. You won’t see many +4-5 AoA guys on tour . Most are -2 to 0. So the higher loft plays more actual. Vs a guy with a positive AoA.

It makes sense. They usually make a ton of 9.5 and 10.5 heads first to stock shelves and then the 8.5 heads come later.

Just an FYI general response to the loft debate developing, and not a direct response to the above.

 

A review of Titleist staff tour players TS selections shows: There are more than twice as many TS3's in play as TS2's; the most popular loft is 9.5*; the second most popular loft is 10.5*; there are as many 11.5*'s in play as 8.5*'s (only 5 out of 33 TS3's in play are 8.5*), and one of those is indicated in the D4 (+.75) SureFit position (Jimmy Walker).

 

I play my ts3 in d4 because it makes it look more square to me.

 

Weren’t there usually more D3 heads in okay over D2 heads in the past.

 

I think the back order is great indicator that these new drivers are going to be great for Titleist.

Either hat or they spin a ton and guys need the lower loft to try to keep it under control.

Disclaimer - I haven’t hit this head so I have no clue. And I’m not a titleist hater. I loved the 917 model. It did not have more spin than TM for me. And I spin everything.

It makes sense. They usually make a ton of 9.5 and 10.5 heads first to stock shelves and then the 8.5 heads come later.

Just an FYI general response to the loft debate developing, and not a direct response to the above.

 

A review of Titleist staff tour players TS selections shows: There are more than twice as many TS3's in play as TS2's; the most popular loft is 9.5*; the second most popular loft is 10.5*; there are as many 11.5*'s in play as 8.5*'s (only 5 out of 33 TS3's in play are 8.5*), and one of those is indicated in the D4 (+.75) SureFit position (Jimmy Walker).

 

Part of the reason is so that they can get the face angle they want. Play a higher loft and open it up ( loft down ) to an open angle. The second reason is that most pros hit down or level on their driver. You won't see many +4-5 AoA guys on tour . Most are -2 to 0. So the higher loft plays more actual. Vs a guy with a positive AoA.

It makes sense. They usually make a ton of 9.5 and 10.5 heads first to stock shelves and then the 8.5 heads come later.

Just an FYI general response to the loft debate developing, and not a direct response to the above.

 

A review of Titleist staff tour players TS selections shows: There are more than twice as many TS3's in play as TS2's; the most popular loft is 9.5*; the second most popular loft is 10.5*; there are as many 11.5*'s in play as 8.5*'s (only 5 out of 33 TS3's in play are 8.5*), and one of those is indicated in the D4 (+.75) SureFit position (Jimmy Walker).

 

Part of the reason is so that they can get the face angle they want. Play a higher loft and open it up ( loft down ) to an open angle. The second reason is that most pros hit down or level on their driver. You won't see many +4-5 AoA guys on tour . Most are -2 to 0. So the higher loft plays more actual. Vs a guy with a positive AoA.

I agree with you on all points. And I'll add, tour players by and large are not chasing ultra low long drive spin. Rather, spin in the 2500 rpm range is common.

Exactly. Spin is control.

1700/17 at 120mph is about as useful as a topflite ball into a green from 200. No way on earth to predict what it will do.

In the present era of high launch, low spin drivers, have you ever thought they never made that many 8.5 heads in the first place? Only guys with insanely high swing speeds (120+ MPH) can benefit a driver head with a loft that low.

It makes sense. They usually make a ton of 9.5 and 10.5 heads first to stock shelves and then the 8.5 heads come later.

Just an FYI general response to the loft debate developing, and not a direct response to the above.

 

A review of Titleist staff tour players TS selections shows: There are more than twice as many TS3's in play as TS2's; the most popular loft is 9.5*; the second most popular loft is 10.5*; there are as many 11.5*'s in play as 8.5*'s (only 5 out of 33 TS3's in play are 8.5*), and one of those is indicated in the D4 (+.75) SureFit position (Jimmy Walker).

 

Part of the reason is so that they can get the face angle they want. Play a higher loft and open it up ( loft down ) to an open angle. The second reason is that most pros hit down or level on their driver. You won’t see many +4-5 AoA guys on tour . Most are -2 to 0. So the higher loft plays more actual. Vs a guy with a positive AoA.

I agree with this I see a lot more 9.5 and 10.5 heads on tour compared to 7.5 and 8 degrees now a days. Myself I used to have a +3-4 aoa and now 2 seasons later I was on trackman 2 weeks ago and Im zero to -1 aoa. Ive migrated to 9.5 and 10degree heads from 7.5 and 8 degrees, my driving accuracy has greatly improved. 25-2800 rpm at 167-170mph ballspeed is much easier to control.

Turning up the loft on an 8.5 head closes the face, which I like. So even us slower swingers can use the lower lofted heads. I just scored a cheap 8.5* 917D3 head for that exact reason.

Turning up the loft on an 8.5 head closes the face, which I like. So even us slower swingers can use the lower lofted heads. I just scored a cheap 8.5* 917D3 head for that exact reason.

Have you been able to compare the 917 vs TS2 TS3?

Turning up the loft on an 8.5 head closes the face, which I like. So even us slower swingers can use the lower lofted heads. I just scored a cheap 8.5* 917D3 head for that exact reason.

Have you been able to compare the 917 vs TS2 TS3?

I have.

I played 917 d3 before this ts3. Both in 8.5.

Looks: Honestly, prefer the head shape on the ts3. It has a little more toe and makes it easier to aim, for me. I like the sound and color of the ts3 better.

Performance: I think the ts3 is longer than the 917. I feel like it’s finally equal to the TM and callaways. Ball speeds are about the same for me, but the ts3 has better launch conditions, which equal more distance.

Not to thread jack, but if anyone is interested, I just got delivered an 8.5* TS2 driver and 13.5* TS2 fairway. After ordering, I wanted to actually move to a 10.5* and 15* but apparently it was too late as they were already in production.

I'm looking for anyone willing to do an even TS2 head swap of my lower lofted versions for your higher lofted versions. If interested just PM me!

In the present era of high launch, low spin drivers, have you ever thought they never made that many 8.5 heads in the first place? Only guys with insanely high swing speeds (120+ MPH) can benefit a driver head with a loft that low.

There are more factors than swing speed that determine your driver loft.

In the present era of high launch, low spin drivers, have you ever thought they never made that many 8.5 heads in the first place? Only guys with insanely high swing speeds (120+ MPH) can benefit a driver head with a loft that low.

 

There are more factors than swing speed that determine your driver loft.

Exactly. Take Dustin Johnson and Bubba Watson. Both guys have some of the highest swing speed on Tour.

Bubba Watson = 7.6* (according to PING's website)

Dustin Johnson = 10.5* (although he might have lofted down with the new M3/M4 series)

That's 3* between the two with relatively equal swing speeds. Bubba tends to release more into impact while DJ holds on and leads with the handle.