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Guys that shoot under par. What clubs?

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BiggErnBiggErn  2703Members Posts: 2,703
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Just curious what clubs guys use that consistently shoot under par. This is geared toward guys that break par more times than not and I’ll limit the clubs down to just driver and irons.
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  • MtlJeffMtlJeff Montreal 28905Members Posts: 28,905
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    That break par more than they don't? That's gonna be a relatively small list.
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    Cobra King F9 w/Fujikura Atmos TS Black 7
    Cobra King F9 w/Matrix Black Tie 80
    Callaway Apex 20 w/Diamana D+ 95
    Ping G410 4-SW w/S300
    Callaway MD 2.0 60 PM grind w/S300
    Odyssey O-works Red Tank #7
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  • andrueandrue  1392Members Posts: 1,392
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    The man maketh the clubs image/wink.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=';)' />
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    Callaway Rogue Driver.
    Callaway Big Bertha OS Hybrids (3/4/5)
    Callaway Big Bertha OS Irons (6/7/8/9/PW/AW/SW)
    Callaway 60* Sureout wedge
    Callaway 64* Sureout wedge
    Ghost Spider Si 72 Putter
    Callaway Super Soft Yellow (White in winter).
  • cb24cb24  1715Members Posts: 1,715
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    5 years ago, When I was actually playing really well (for me) and I was in the +2 handicap range I was playing a set of mizuno mp68 irons. Sold those for AP2s and never have brought my game back. I went thru 8 sets of irons over the 3 years after I sold the Mizunos and finally settled on a set of Srixon z965s. I think those under par days are coming back, my birdies are going up as my proximity to the hole is going thru the roof and it’s leading to confidence across my game.



    My big advice to anyone who to score well, find something you are comfortable and confident with and stick with it and don’t even think about getting another set. Once I started to feel comfortable and trust that these Srixons were the right clubs for me then my scores started getting lower
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  • SuperbritSuperbrit  572Members Posts: 572
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    BiggErn wrote:


    Just curious what clubs guys use that consistently shoot under par. This is geared toward guys that break par more times than not and I’ll limit the clubs down to just driver and irons.




    Just go to the WITB section in the menu, there are loads of guys in there that regularly shoot under par
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    Taylormade M5 9.0* (down to 7.5)
    Taylormade M6 Rocket 14
    3 wood
    Taylormade M6 18* 5 wood
    Adams DHY 21*
    Honma TW717V irons 5-PW
    Honma TW forged 50*
    Cleveland RTX4 RAW 54/60*
    Machine putter

  • bogeyprobogeypro The Original Bogeypro AL 3332ClubWRX Posts: 3,332
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    I’d agree with cb24. Find some clubs you trust and go play. Doesn’t matter what they are...game improvement, players, etc..
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    Titleist TS3 8.5 evenflow white
    Titleist TS2 15* evenflow white 
    Titleist TS3 19 hybrid evenflow white
    Titleist 718 AP2 4-pw kbs tour
    Vokey SM7 52/58 wedges 
    Scotty Cameron Futura 5.5m
  • md1mmd1m  798Members Posts: 798
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    When I take a lesson (which I don't do nearly enough), my instructor can take whatever club I have in my bag and stripe it.
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    Clubs are fluid
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  • SASpeederSASpeeder SASpeeder  86Members Posts: 86
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    Not shooting under par quite as regularly anymore but still gaming the same equipment.

    Driver:Taylor M2 9.5” 2016 model with Diamana BF 60TX shaft

    Irons: Miura CB1008 with KBS $Taper S+ shafts
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  • farmerfarmer  8276Members Posts: 8,276
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    I doubt that club choice is as big a factor as quality of strike.
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  • JoelsimJoelsim  1352Members Posts: 1,352
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    In my case that’d be magic clubs.
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    Driver: Ping G400 10.5 Reg Ping Alta 44.5”
    Fairway: Cobra King Ltd Black 5 Wood Aldila Rogue Stiff
    Hybrid: Titleist 818 H1 23 Hybrid Regular Tensei Blue
    Irons: Ping G400 4-UW (#4 at power spec loft)
    Wedges: Callaway Mack Daddy Jaws 60W Low and Mack Daddy 4 64S, Cleveland CBX 2 54 Rotex 
    Putters: Bettinardi Studio Stock #3 (Jumbo Lamkin), Bettinardi Studio Stock #28 Slotback (Winn Dri-Tac), Bettinardi Queen Bee #9 (Winn Dri-Tac), Odyssey Toulon Stroke Lab Palm Beach (Winn Dri-Tac),  Cleveland Huntington Beach #10 (Winn Dri-Tac), Piretti Forza (Piretti Fat Grip), Piretti Matera Elite (Piretti Fat Grip), Piretti Cottonwood II (Piretti Fat Grip).
  • BiggErnBiggErn  2703Members Posts: 2,703
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    farmer wrote:
    I doubt that club choice is as big a factor as quality of strike.




    Obviously anyone who shoots under par will be having a lot of quality strikes with whatever clubs they prefer to use.
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  • mikpgamikpga www.mikedeitersgolf.com  7422Members Posts: 7,422
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    Just look at what the PGA Tour & Web.com Tour players are playing...
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  • "THE GREEK""THE GREEK"  84Members Posts: 84
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    I don't shoot under more often than not, but i shoot under about 20% of the time. I play g400 lst driver with hzrdus black 75 gram in extra stiff. The irons are Bridgestone j15 cb 3-p with x100 shafts.
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  • GolfChannelGolfChannel Orlando, Florida 2276Members Posts: 2,276
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    The only thing that matters is that the clubs are properly fit. When I was playing off a +3, I was playing TA EVO Forged Blades. I have spent the last year trying to find “that” set (I still use my EVO’s for my home practice setup), but I think I have found it with my Callaway Apex CF16’s after gaming the following this year in my search:



    Mizuno JPX900 Forged

    Ping S55’s

    Ping i200’s

    Titleist 716AP2’s

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    Driver: Ping G410 Plus w/Tensei Orange
    3 Wood: Titleist TS2 w/HZRDUS Smoke
    Hybrid: Titleist 718 H2 w/Atmos Blue TS 
    Irons: Ping iBlade Nippon AWT 2.0 Stiff
    Wedges: Callaway MD3 50, 54, and 58
    Putter: Original Odyssey White Hot XG No. 7
    Ball: Bridgestone XS
  • tgoodspe1991tgoodspe1991 New England 921Members Posts: 921
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    Any clubs. I've played them all "searching" for an even better score but they're all the same. I've shot consistently under par with any range of muscleback irons through to chunky cavity backs. I've had great rounds with AP2, Cobra KING Forged Tour, Nike VR Pro blades, Miura Baby Blades, AP1, Callaway MB, etc... You name it I've probably tried it and I've equally shot under par or over par with it too.



    I do always tend to gravitate back to Titleist woods though. For me I think it's just a looks and confidence thing. I've hit great shots with any OEM's metal wood range but Titleist always ends up being a fixture in that range of my bag.



    I've come to accept you can never buy a better game, but I still enjoy trying all the new stuff as a side hobby almost. Which is why you'll always see some new stuff from me on the classifieds! image/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />



    EDIT: I should also state I'm currently a +3.1 and at my best years ago I was nearly a +5.
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    “Golf is deceptively simple and endlessly complicated; it satisfies the soul and frustrates the intellect. It is at the same
    time rewarding and maddening – and it is without a doubt the greatest game mankind has ever invented."
    - Arnold Palmer
  • md1mmd1m  798Members Posts: 798
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    mikpga wrote:


    Just look at what the PGA Tour & Web.com Tour players are playing...




    No, might look at what the players not under contract are playing. But tour players are not comparable to 99.99% of the people here.
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    Clubs are fluid
  • tgoodspe1991tgoodspe1991 New England 921Members Posts: 921
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    md1m wrote:

    mikpga wrote:


    Just look at what the PGA Tour & Web.com Tour players are playing...




    No, might look at what the players not under contract are playing. But tour players are not comparable to 99.99% of the people here.




    Then look at the LPGA Tour. In overall distance and swing speed they are far more comparable to most people on this website.



    In their bags you'll see a larger range of club head sizes, lighter weight shafts, more hybrids, etc.



    They could crush most of us any day of the week, yet we still go out and demand XX-Flex shafts and 16* 2-irons, lol.
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    “Golf is deceptively simple and endlessly complicated; it satisfies the soul and frustrates the intellect. It is at the same
    time rewarding and maddening – and it is without a doubt the greatest game mankind has ever invented."
    - Arnold Palmer
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  • extrastiffextrastiff  931Members Posts: 931
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    andrue wrote:


    The man maketh the clubs image/wink.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=';)' />


    This.



    Peter Finch shooting 3 under over 9 with noodle-shaft old charity clubs

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    g410 lst 9* | tensei white80tx  /  g400 15.5* | addi 9x  /  p790 19* | x100  /  p730 4-p | x100  /  sm7 52*8, 56*10 | x100  /  hi-toe 62*4 | x100  / spider x







  • animalgolfsanimalgolfs  2045Members Posts: 2,045
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    Know a guy that's on his 3rd set of Eye 2's since '83



    He plays a game that I'm unfamiliar with...i heard he shot 61 last month
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    Sunday Bag with 9
  • sdandreasdandrea Steve  2554Members Posts: 2,554
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    I know a number of scratch players with GI irons and 4 or 5 headcovers in their bags. Whatever works.
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    • Cobra FMax SuperLite 12*
    • Cobra Baffler M Speed 5w
    • Cobra FMax Superlite 5h-GW
    • PING Eye 2 +no+ SW
    • Scotty Fastback
  • extrastiffextrastiff  931Members Posts: 931
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    sdandrea wrote:


    I know a number of scratch players with GI irons and 4 or 5 headcovers in their bags. Whatever works.




    When i see a set of irons with just enough headcovers to stop a noisy bag, im actually convinced that person is good.
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    g410 lst 9* | tensei white80tx  /  g400 15.5* | addi 9x  /  p790 19* | x100  /  p730 4-p | x100  /  sm7 52*8, 56*10 | x100  /  hi-toe 62*4 | x100  / spider x







  • pinestreetgolfpinestreetgolf  3505Members Posts: 3,505
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    Sure, individual skill is paramount, but the difference between 72 and 70 could very well come down to equipment. I can't hit a driver without a ton of offset, and my trusty G10 has a massive amount of it. I've only shot four sixties rounds in my life so I'm not the guy the OP is referring to here, but everyone always talks in binary like equipment is either irrelevant or super-important. Like everything else in golf, its player dependent. Sure, there are guys who can shoot great scores with anything but there are also guys (especially on the putting green) who can't.
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    Wilson Triton 10.5 Rogue 125 msi 60 X-Flex
    Adams Tight Lies Aldila RIP Beta 80 S-Flex cut to 42"
    j40 DPC 3-PW x100 SL
    Vokey SM7 50, 55, 60 s300
    Edel Putter
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    Sure, individual skill is paramount, but the difference between 72 and 70 could very well come down to equipment. I can't hit a driver without a ton of offset, and my trusty G10 has a massive amount of it. I've only shot four sixties rounds in my life so I'm not the guy the OP is referring to here, but everyone always talks in binary like equipment is either irrelevant or super-important. Like everything else in golf, its player dependent. Sure, there are guys who can shoot great scores with anything but there are also guys (especially on the putting green) who can't.


    But the OP is asking about guys that consistently can hit <72, and i dont believe equipment would change that. As long as they are fit to the player, im pretty positive + handi's will stay +. I dont shoot under much but i switching to different brands, shapes, models, years, would not add 4 strokes to my game all of a sudden.As long as they are fit. me and others i play with are always exchanging clubs to test out, mess around. I don't usually hit these shots much worse than my own equip.
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    g410 lst 9* | tensei white80tx  /  g400 15.5* | addi 9x  /  p790 19* | x100  /  p730 4-p | x100  /  sm7 52*8, 56*10 | x100  /  hi-toe 62*4 | x100  / spider x







  • BiggErnBiggErn  2703Members Posts: 2,703
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    extrastiff wrote:


    Sure, individual skill is paramount, but the difference between 72 and 70 could very well come down to equipment. I can't hit a driver without a ton of offset, and my trusty G10 has a massive amount of it. I've only shot four sixties rounds in my life so I'm not the guy the OP is referring to here, but everyone always talks in binary like equipment is either irrelevant or super-important. Like everything else in golf, its player dependent. Sure, there are guys who can shoot great scores with anything but there are also guys (especially on the putting green) who can't.


    But the OP is asking about guys that consistently can hit <72, and i dont believe equipment would change that. As long as they are fit to the player, im pretty positive + handi's will stay +. I dont shoot under much but i switching to different brands, shapes, models, years, would not add 4 strokes to my game all of a sudden.As long as they are fit. me and others i play with are always exchanging clubs to test out, mess around. I don't usually hit these shots much worse than my own equip.






    I was just curious about the topic. I’m not looking for input on my equipment based on what a very good player on here may use. Obviously you can look at tour pros and see what they use but I was just curious what a good recreational golfer who plays a couple times a week or in local events is using.
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  • extrastiffextrastiff  931Members Posts: 931
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    BiggErn wrote:

    extrastiff wrote:


    Sure, individual skill is paramount, but the difference between 72 and 70 could very well come down to equipment. I can't hit a driver without a ton of offset, and my trusty G10 has a massive amount of it. I've only shot four sixties rounds in my life so I'm not the guy the OP is referring to here, but everyone always talks in binary like equipment is either irrelevant or super-important. Like everything else in golf, its player dependent. Sure, there are guys who can shoot great scores with anything but there are also guys (especially on the putting green) who can't.


    But the OP is asking about guys that consistently can hit <72, and i dont believe equipment would change that. As long as they are fit to the player, im pretty positive + handi's will stay +. I dont shoot under much but i switching to different brands, shapes, models, years, would not add 4 strokes to my game all of a sudden.As long as they are fit. me and others i play with are always exchanging clubs to test out, mess around. I don't usually hit these shots much worse than my own equip.






    I was just curious about the topic. I’m not looking for input on my equipment based on what a very good player on here may use. Obviously you can look at tour pros and see what they use but I was just curious what a good recreational golfer who plays a couple times a week or in local events is using.


    For sure I was not trying to troll.. My equip in my signature that y i didnt mention, sorry!



    Im really in to the baffler stuff for whatever reason. and the PX hazrdus black shaft. Im creepily into that model actually, i want a set for irons.
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    g410 lst 9* | tensei white80tx  /  g400 15.5* | addi 9x  /  p790 19* | x100  /  p730 4-p | x100  /  sm7 52*8, 56*10 | x100  /  hi-toe 62*4 | x100  / spider x







  • BiggErnBiggErn  2703Members Posts: 2,703
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    extrastiff wrote:
    BiggErn wrote:

    extrastiff wrote:


    Sure, individual skill is paramount, but the difference between 72 and 70 could very well come down to equipment. I can't hit a driver without a ton of offset, and my trusty G10 has a massive amount of it. I've only shot four sixties rounds in my life so I'm not the guy the OP is referring to here, but everyone always talks in binary like equipment is either irrelevant or super-important. Like everything else in golf, its player dependent. Sure, there are guys who can shoot great scores with anything but there are also guys (especially on the putting green) who can't.


    But the OP is asking about guys that consistently can hit <72, and i dont believe equipment would change that. As long as they are fit to the player, im pretty positive + handi's will stay +. I dont shoot under much but i switching to different brands, shapes, models, years, would not add 4 strokes to my game all of a sudden.As long as they are fit. me and others i play with are always exchanging clubs to test out, mess around. I don't usually hit these shots much worse than my own equip.






    I was just curious about the topic. I’m not looking for input on my equipment based on what a very good player on here may use. Obviously you can look at tour pros and see what they use but I was just curious what a good recreational golfer who plays a couple times a week or in local events is using.


    For sure I was not trying to troll.. My equip in my signature that y i didnt mention, sorry!



    Im really in to the baffler stuff for whatever reason. and the PX hazrdus black shaft. Im creepily into that model actually, i want a set for irons.






    All good. I didn’t take it that you were.
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  • NRJyzrNRJyzr Minnesota, USA 6843Members Posts: 6,843
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    I've played with a few guys who were scratch or a bit better, the bags vary quite a bit. One played R9 TP B, irons and a SLDR, another played old TM Tour Preferred blades from the 80s, with a component driver. Another had full Titleist bag, complete with 690 blades. If they're lower trajectory players, might see a hybrid or two.



    Kind of all over the place. image/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />
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    The Ever Changing Bag!

    Driver: Golden Ram TW805, Precision 6.5, 43.25"
    3w:  Golden Ram 16*, Precision 6.5, 42"
    2i:  Mizuno Pro, DGS300
    3-PW:  Mizuno MP-37, DGS300
    2-PW:  Golden Ram Tour Grinds, Dynamic S
    GW:  Dynacraft forged 52*, DGS400 (not carried with Golden Rams)
    SW:  Wilson Staff PMP 58*
    Putter: Cleveland Huntington Beach #1 35"
    Balls: in no particular order... Wilson Staff FG Tour, Duo Urethane/Professional, or 50 Elite, Srixon ZStar, Snell MTB Black, Vice Pro Lime... will trot out Maxfli HT-100 or Elite 90 from time to time

    Driver Substitutes: Golden Ram TW801 or TW802, DGS300
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  • JagpilotohioJagpilotohio 45+ inch drivers are evil. Columbus, OH 7259Members Posts: 7,259
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    Agree with tgood. It really doesn’t matter much. You just have to like the clubs and get used to them.



    I’ve been as low as +2 and currently 1.2 with extremely poor putting since I started wearing glasses for distance a few years ago. . I Can’t read anything anymore but I still hit 12+ greens in regulation on average and shoot par or better about 30% of the time.



    I played Mizuno MSX Midsize cavity back irons with custom Daiwa graphite shafts from 1993 until 2015. Those XX Daiwa graphites were eventually just too stiff and I looked for a new set. I found my Hogan’s 3 years ago. Love at first swing. Loved the look, the shape, the feel. Since then I’ve been using Hogan PTx with KBS TourV in 120x. Various ping and vokey wedges. Now using glide 2’s and a vokey 60m lob wedge.



    Driver has varied over time. Big Bertha in the 90’s. 400 and 460 Cleveland titanium launchers in the 2000’s until 3 years ago. Cobra LTD to 917 d3 and back to LTD this summer. I’m still using an original Grafalloy Blue in my LTD that I used in my 460 launcher since 2006. I know the shaft like an old glove. It works for me. I have back ups in the basement in case it breaks.



    I believe the most important thing, besides being fit properly with the correct shafts and lie angles, is to love the look and feel of your clubs and committ 100% to them for a significant period of time. It is so important to simply GET USED TO YOUR CLUBS.



    Too many people on this site actually seem to think there is a significant difference between different irons of the same category. There isn’t. All the top irons perform essentially the same anymore if they are fit to you. You can’t buy a game. I know that doesn’t fit many people’s mindset on this site, but changing irons constantly is absolutely hurting your scoring.
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    9.5* Cobra LTD, Old school Grafalloy Blue, 43.5"
    14* Cally 815 alpha fuji 665 X 42"
    16* Cally 815 alpha fuji 665 X, 41.5" (set to 17*)
    19* Titleist 816 H2 fuji 8.8X TS 40.0"
    4-7 2016 Hogan PTx, KBS Tour V, 120X.  
    Ping i210 8 & 9 Proto 125 F5 hardstepped 1x.
    Ping glide 2 46-12, 50-12, 54-14 (at 55) stealth, Vokey SM6 60M (61). Wedges Recoil Proto 125 F5
    33.5" Ghost spider slant neck.
    Srixon Z-star XV
    Jones Trouper Bag
  • cradd10cradd10  1307Members Posts: 1,307
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    I don't shoot under more often than not, but i shoot under about 20% of the time. I play g400 lst driver with hzrdus black 75 gram in extra stiff. The irons are Bridgestone j15 cb 3-p with x100 shafts.




    This is why I hate playing in every Member/guest. Guy shoots under par 20% of time and is a 4 handicap.
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    M5 Syngery Proto 75
    M5 3wd Hzdrus blk 6.5
    X2Hot Pro 18°
    Hogan PTX Tour V 120x
    Vokey SM6 50,55,60
    Edel E-2
  • pinestreetgolfpinestreetgolf  3505Members Posts: 3,505
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    Agree with tgood. It really doesn’t matter much. You just have to like the clubs and get used to them.



    I’ve been as low as +2 and currently 1.2 with extremely poor putting since I started wearing glasses for distance a few years ago. . I Can’t read anything anymore but I still hit 12+ greens in regulation on average and shoot par or better about 30% of the time.



    I played Mizuno MSX Midsize cavity back irons with custom Daiwa graphite shafts from 1993 until 2015. Those XX Daiwa graphites were eventually just too stiff and I looked for a new set. I found my Hogan’s 3 years ago. Love at first swing. Loved the look, the shape, the feel. Since then I’ve been using Hogan PTx with KBS TourV in 120x. Various ping and vokey wedges. Now using glide 2’s and a vokey 60m lob wedge.



    Driver has varied over time. Big Bertha in the 90’s. 400 and 460 Cleveland titanium launchers in the 2000’s until 3 years ago. Cobra LTD to 917 d3 and back to LTD this summer.



    I believe the most important thing, besides being fit properly with the correct shafts and lie angles, is to love the look and feel of your clubs and committ 100% to them for a significant period of time. It is so important to simply GET USED TO YOUR CLUBS.



    Too many people on this site actually seem to think there is a significant difference between different irons of the same category. There isn’t. All the top irons perform essentially the same anymore if they are fit to you. You can’t buy a game. I know that doesn’t fit many people’s mindset on this site, but changing irons constantly is absolutely hurting your scoring.




    If this is true wouldn’t changing a good players clubs hurt their score? Or do only bad players need to be used to their clubs?



    I agree with this post btw. I totally disagree with the “a good player is just as good with anything” crowd. Usually the people in that crowd are not good players. It’s just as important, good or bad, especially in wind or soggy conditions.
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    Wilson Triton 10.5 Rogue 125 msi 60 X-Flex
    Adams Tight Lies Aldila RIP Beta 80 S-Flex cut to 42"
    j40 DPC 3-PW x100 SL
    Vokey SM7 50, 55, 60 s300
    Edel Putter
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  • Grip It & Rip It 82Grip It & Rip It 82  177Members Posts: 177
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    For me to shoot under par the clubs I would need would have to be vodka clubs......only way I think I'd be able to not overthink every shot
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