Odyssey/Toulon putters

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  • semarlorsemarlor Charlotte, NCMembers Posts: 613 ✭✭
    PeteW wrote:


    My apologies if this has been asked/answered before. Are these stroke lab shafts the same as those stability putter shafts that Barney Adams is pushing?




    It is not. Everything I've read says that it is all about the weighting that makes it different. Removing weight from the middle and pushing it to the club head and grip.
  • hef63303hef63303 Members Posts: 2,861 ✭✭


    So is it just the Azalea and Austin being offered LH?? The Vegas slant neck NEEDS to be offered in LH please!
    Atlanta, Azalea, Las Vegas, San Diego and Memphis. Vegas Slant neck is not.
  • hef63303 wrote:



    So is it just the Azalea and Austin being offered LH?? The Vegas slant neck NEEDS to be offered in LH please!
    Atlanta, Azalea, Las Vegas, San Diego and Memphis. Vegas Slant neck is not.


    Well this is the worst news of the day......
  • MSUIRONDAWGSMSUIRONDAWGS Members Posts: 748 ✭✭
    Another view of the Vegas...



  • Breezy-3-Breezy-3- Members Posts: 290 ✭✭
    The Las Vegas looks great! I’m sure fans of the 7 are excited to get one in hand and put it through its paces. As for me, id love to see a fully milled Toulon rendition of the 1w.
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  • Byrdman2230Byrdman2230 Members Posts: 308 ✭✭
    These putters definitely have my attention, but the price is pretty steep. I’m liking the Azalea and Vegas. I wish there was going to be a San Francisco in the lineup.
  • delmerdelmer ClubWRX Posts: 439 ClubWRX
    I'm contemplating adding an Azalea to my arsenal but I have to say I'm not a big fan of all the Odyssey branding they added.
  • drbonesvtdrbonesvt ClubWRX Posts: 8,084 ClubWRX
    I wish they would refinish in black
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  • delmerdelmer ClubWRX Posts: 439 ClubWRX
    drbonesvt wrote:


    I wish they would refinish in black




    I'm not a fan of the black finish. There's something about a painted finish on a putter that I just don't like.
  • leftygolfer15leftygolfer15 Dallas, Tx.Members Posts: 1,287 ✭✭
    Left-handed Vegas flow neck or we riot!
  • chris975dchris975d GeorgiaClubWRX Posts: 1,912 ClubWRX
    delmer wrote:


    I'm contemplating adding an Azalea to my arsenal but I have to say I'm not a big fan of all the Odyssey branding they added.




    I understand that, but as someone that is in the industry and sells golf equipment, the average golfer doesn't know, nor wants whatever a "Toulon" putter is. It's much easier for Callaway to co-brand Toulon's with Odyssey and build off the back of the brand recognition they've built with Odyssey than it is to try and not do so and try to create brand awareness for what is essentially a totally new brand in Toulon by itself.
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  • MSUIRONDAWGSMSUIRONDAWGS Members Posts: 748 ✭✭
    edited Jan 12, 2019 5:19pm #193
    chris975d wrote:

    delmer wrote:


    I'm contemplating adding an Azalea to my arsenal but I have to say I'm not a big fan of all the Odyssey branding they added.




    I understand that, but as someone that is in the industry and sells golf equipment, the average golfer doesn't know, nor wants whatever a "Toulon" putter is. It's much easier for Callaway to co-brand Toulon's with Odyssey and build off the back of the brand recognition they've built with Odyssey than it is to try and not do so and try to create brand awareness for what is essentially a totally new brand in Toulon by itself.




    Completely agree with this statement. We all have to remember, for the MOST part, WRX'ers are very particular(and ho's!) in what they like and want. Very detail driven and equipment geeks. This doesn't pertain to the average Joe that goes into a big box shop and buys something they pick up off the rack. They know "Odyssey" maybe because of watching Phil on TV and that's what may draw them in. Not the boutique branding with Toulon...And there are WAY more average Joe's than us, hence more revenue for Callaway.
  • chris975dchris975d GeorgiaClubWRX Posts: 1,912 ClubWRX

    chris975d wrote:

    delmer wrote:


    I'm contemplating adding an Azalea to my arsenal but I have to say I'm not a big fan of all the Odyssey branding they added.




    I understand that, but as someone that is in the industry and sells golf equipment, the average golfer doesn't know, nor wants whatever a "Toulon" putter is. It's much easier for Callaway to co-brand Toulon's with Odyssey and build off the back of the brand recognition they've built with Odyssey than it is to try and not do so and try to create brand awareness for what is essentially a totally new brand in Toulon by itself.




    Completely agree with this statement. We all have to remember, for the MOST part, WRX'ers are very particular(and ho's!) in what they like and want. Very detail driven and equipment geeks. This doesn't pertain to the average Joe that goes into a big box shop and buys something they pick up off the rack. They know "Odyssey" maybe because of watching Phil on TV and that's what may draw them in. Not the boutique branding with Toulon...And there are WAY more average Joe's than us, hence more revenue for Callaway.




    Yes. I often wish everyone on enthusiast's sites like this could work in the golf industry with us some time and see what it's really like on this side. Then GolfWRXers would understand why manufacturers market the way they do, why there's not more forged blade offerings or sub-400cc driver heads, why most drivers sit with a closed face, why offset exists, etc. The extreme enthusiasts of most all hobbies are so far removed from the average participant in that hobby that they really can't relate at all. The golfing public as a whole has zero idea what a Toulon is or who makes it. By co-branding with Odyssey, it gets some instant brand awareness that equates to a sense of quality. Instead of having to sell every single potential customer on the Toulon story, just show them that it's a high end/luxury Odyssey. MUCH easier sell. And I sell Odyssey, so I know. LOL.
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  • delmerdelmer ClubWRX Posts: 439 ClubWRX
    chris975d wrote:


    chris975d wrote:

    delmer wrote:


    I'm contemplating adding an Azalea to my arsenal but I have to say I'm not a big fan of all the Odyssey branding they added.




    I understand that, but as someone that is in the industry and sells golf equipment, the average golfer doesn't know, nor wants whatever a "Toulon" putter is. It's much easier for Callaway to co-brand Toulon's with Odyssey and build off the back of the brand recognition they've built with Odyssey than it is to try and not do so and try to create brand awareness for what is essentially a totally new brand in Toulon by itself.




    Completely agree with this statement. We all have to remember, for the MOST part, WRX'ers are very particular(and ho's!) in what they like and want. Very detail driven and equipment geeks. This doesn't pertain to the average Joe that goes into a big box shop and buys something they pick up off the rack. They know "Odyssey" maybe because of watching Phil on TV and that's what may draw them in. Not the boutique branding with Toulon...And there are WAY more average Joe's than us, hence more revenue for Callaway.




    Yes. I often wish everyone on enthusiast's sites like this could work in the golf industry with us some time and see what it's really like on this side. Then GolfWRXers would understand why manufacturers market the way they do, why there's not more forged blade offerings or sub-400cc driver heads, why most drivers sit with a closed face, why offset exists, etc. The extreme enthusiasts of most all hobbies are so far removed from the average participant in that hobby that they really can't relate at all. The golfing public as a whole has zero idea what a Toulon is or who makes it. By co-branding with Odyssey, it gets some instant brand awareness that equates to a sense of quality. Instead of having to sell every single potential customer on the Toulon story, just show them that it's a high end/luxury Odyssey. MUCH easier sell. And I sell Odyssey, so I know. LOL.




    I understand the golf business pretty well. I could get around the Odyssey branding but they just couldn't resist throwing a plastic medallion on a beautifully milled putter could they? They did the same thing with the new PM grind wedge. Got it 97% correct and then just had to throw a little piece of plastic on the back.
  • chris975dchris975d GeorgiaClubWRX Posts: 1,912 ClubWRX
    delmer wrote:
    chris975d wrote:


    chris975d wrote:

    delmer wrote:


    I'm contemplating adding an Azalea to my arsenal but I have to say I'm not a big fan of all the Odyssey branding they added.




    I understand that, but as someone that is in the industry and sells golf equipment, the average golfer doesn't know, nor wants whatever a "Toulon" putter is. It's much easier for Callaway to co-brand Toulon's with Odyssey and build off the back of the brand recognition they've built with Odyssey than it is to try and not do so and try to create brand awareness for what is essentially a totally new brand in Toulon by itself.




    Completely agree with this statement. We all have to remember, for the MOST part, WRX'ers are very particular(and ho's!) in what they like and want. Very detail driven and equipment geeks. This doesn't pertain to the average Joe that goes into a big box shop and buys something they pick up off the rack. They know "Odyssey" maybe because of watching Phil on TV and that's what may draw them in. Not the boutique branding with Toulon...And there are WAY more average Joe's than us, hence more revenue for Callaway.




    Yes. I often wish everyone on enthusiast's sites like this could work in the golf industry with us some time and see what it's really like on this side. Then GolfWRXers would understand why manufacturers market the way they do, why there's not more forged blade offerings or sub-400cc driver heads, why most drivers sit with a closed face, why offset exists, etc. The extreme enthusiasts of most all hobbies are so far removed from the average participant in that hobby that they really can't relate at all. The golfing public as a whole has zero idea what a Toulon is or who makes it. By co-branding with Odyssey, it gets some instant brand awareness that equates to a sense of quality. Instead of having to sell every single potential customer on the Toulon story, just show them that it's a high end/luxury Odyssey. MUCH easier sell. And I sell Odyssey, so I know. LOL.




    I understand the golf business pretty well. I could get around the Odyssey branding but they just couldn't resist throwing a plastic medallion on a beautifully milled putter could they? They did the same thing with the new PM grind wedge. Got it 97% correct and then just had to throw a little piece of plastic on the back.




    We are talking about Callaway when it's all said and done. And if we know anything about Callaway, it's that they will put a plastic badge on virtually everything!
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  • KonkliferKonklifer Thinkin' of a master plan... location, location.Members Posts: 7,813 ✭✭
    edited Jan 12, 2019 7:14pm #197
    I don't know if I'll buy it, but I'm glad the Vegas has a flow neck and not a slant. I was initially in love with the 7s but, after a while, felt the slant neck was too slanty. I like the flow of the flow neck much better.
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  • Ed SettleEd Settle #InsideTMAG ClubWRX Posts: 6,047 ClubWRX
    edited Jan 13, 2019 2:06pm #198
    delmer wrote:

    drbonesvt wrote:


    I wish they would refinish in black




    I'm not a fan of the black finish. There's something about a painted finish on a putter that I just don't like.




    Be careful, let’s no confuse anyone. Odyssey’s are painted, Toulon’s are not. Black Pearl is a chemical process, not paint.
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  • MedsonMedson Members Posts: 2,310 ✭✭
    My only complaint is Vegas’ alignment aid. Too busy.



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  • Carolina Golfer 2Carolina Golfer 2 Members Posts: 9,103 ✭✭
    chris975d wrote:

    chris975d wrote:

    delmer wrote:


    I'm contemplating adding an Azalea to my arsenal but I have to say I'm not a big fan of all the Odyssey branding they added.




    I understand that, but as someone that is in the industry and sells golf equipment, the average golfer doesn't know, nor wants whatever a "Toulon" putter is. It's much easier for Callaway to co-brand Toulon's with Odyssey and build off the back of the brand recognition they've built with Odyssey than it is to try and not do so and try to create brand awareness for what is essentially a totally new brand in Toulon by itself.




    Completely agree with this statement. We all have to remember, for the MOST part, WRX'ers are very particular(and ho's!) in what they like and want. Very detail driven and equipment geeks. This doesn't pertain to the average Joe that goes into a big box shop and buys something they pick up off the rack. They know "Odyssey" maybe because of watching Phil on TV and that's what may draw them in. Not the boutique branding with Toulon...And there are WAY more average Joe's than us, hence more revenue for Callaway.




    Yes. I often wish everyone on enthusiast's sites like this could work in the golf industry with us some time and see what it's really like on this side. Then GolfWRXers would understand why manufacturers market the way they do, why there's not more forged blade offerings or sub-400cc driver heads, why most drivers sit with a closed face, why offset exists, etc. The extreme enthusiasts of most all hobbies are so far removed from the average participant in that hobby that they really can't relate at all. The golfing public as a whole has zero idea what a Toulon is or who makes it. By co-branding with Odyssey, it gets some instant brand awareness that equates to a sense of quality. Instead of having to sell every single potential customer on the Toulon story, just show them that it's a high end/luxury Odyssey. MUCH easier sell. And I sell Odyssey, so I know. LOL.


    This is so spot on. And even guys who work in our pro shop that aren't geeks, think I'm buying some cheap or fake brand when they see a Toulon or Evnroll box show up. It takes quite a bit of education to get them to realize it. Even then most are still skeptical.
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  • delmerdelmer ClubWRX Posts: 439 ClubWRX
    edited Jan 13, 2019 3:50pm #201
    Ed Settle wrote:

    delmer wrote:

    drbonesvt wrote:


    I wish they would refinish in black




    I'm not a fan of the black finish. There's something about a painted finish on a putter that I just don't like.




    Be careful, let's no confuse anyone. Odyssey's are painted, Toulon's are not. Black Pearl is a chemical process, not paint.




    Are you sure about that? Based on the overspray it sure looks like it's a sprayed finish to me. It looks a lot like graphite black Cerkote.
  • Ed SettleEd Settle #InsideTMAG ClubWRX Posts: 6,047 ClubWRX
    delmer wrote:

    Ed Settle wrote:

    delmer wrote:

    drbonesvt wrote:


    I wish they would refinish in black




    I'm not a fan of the black finish. There's something about a painted finish on a putter that I just don't like.




    Be careful, let's no confuse anyone. Odyssey's are painted, Toulon's are not. Black Pearl is a chemical process, not paint.




    Are you sure about that? Based on the overspray it sure looks like it's a sprayed finish to me. It looks a lot like graphite black Cerkote.




    Yes, I am 100%. The new finish is Charcoal PVD a process not paint. The same as the other finishes on the other Toulon’s. What you are seeing isn’t overspray it is where the head is held for the dipped in the tank. Hope that helps.
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  • delmerdelmer ClubWRX Posts: 439 ClubWRX
    Ed Settle wrote:

    delmer wrote:

    Ed Settle wrote:

    delmer wrote:

    drbonesvt wrote:


    I wish they would refinish in black




    I'm not a fan of the black finish. There's something about a painted finish on a putter that I just don't like.




    Be careful, let's no confuse anyone. Odyssey's are painted, Toulon's are not. Black Pearl is a chemical process, not paint.




    Are you sure about that? Based on the overspray it sure looks like it's a sprayed finish to me. It looks a lot like graphite black Cerkote.




    Yes, I am 100%. The new finish is Charcoal PVD a process not paint. The same as the other finishes on the other Toulon's. What you are seeing isn't overspray it is where the head is held for the dipped in the tank. Hope that helps.




    There is no dipping in a tank for a PVD process. Looks exactly like it would if they were applying a coating like CeraKote.
  • Ed SettleEd Settle #InsideTMAG ClubWRX Posts: 6,047 ClubWRX
    I misspoke about PVD being dipped in this finish. But that doesn’t mean that it isn’t held in a fixture for the PVD process. No where in Toulon’s web site and brochures does it ever talk about their finishes being paint.
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  • redrage22redrage22 Members Posts: 39 ✭✭
    Rolled the Vegas flow neck this morning....they cannot take my money soon enough. Have played quite a few # 7's over the years but they always had an insert. The looks and feel of the milling was incredible. The Exo # 7 Mini wasn't bad if you wanted to save a few bucks.
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  • WarrickWarrick ClubWRX Posts: 10,332 ClubWRX
    redrage22 wrote:


    Rolled the Vegas flow neck this morning....they cannot take my money soon enough. Have played quite a few # 7's over the years but they always had an insert. The looks and feel of the milling was incredible. The Exo # 7 Mini wasn't bad if you wanted to save a few bucks.




    what is the head size like on the Vegas, smaller #7 profile?
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  • redrage22redrage22 Members Posts: 39 ✭✭
    Warrick wrote:

    redrage22 wrote:


    Rolled the Vegas flow neck this morning....they cannot take my money soon enough. Have played quite a few # 7's over the years but they always had an insert. The looks and feel of the milling was incredible. The Exo # 7 Mini wasn't bad if you wanted to save a few bucks.




    what is the head size like on the Vegas, smaller #7 profile?




    I want to say smaller than the current O-Works Black/Red line....but it could also be the finish making it appear smaller.
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  • PowerCobra98PowerCobra98 Members Posts: 341 ✭✭
    So much talk about the Vegas. I want some talk/info about the Palm Beach.
  • WarrickWarrick ClubWRX Posts: 10,332 ClubWRX


    So much talk about the Vegas. I want some talk/info about the Palm Beach.






    That is most likely the way I go if I do a Toulon, looks so good with the flow neck.
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  • RodrigoNicelyRodrigoNicely Members Posts: 724 ✭✭
    I’ve loved Toulon putters but they really hurt my heart not making a lefty Vegas slant neck. I don’t want them to go the way of cameron and offer little to noptions for lefties.
  • Kirch17Kirch17 Members Posts: 99 ✭✭
    redrage22 wrote:


    Rolled the Vegas flow neck this morning....they cannot take my money soon enough. Have played quite a few # 7's over the years but they always had an insert. The looks and feel of the milling was incredible. The Exo # 7 Mini wasn't bad if you wanted to save a few bucks.
    Stroke lab shaft?
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