Softest, most forgiving players cavity iron?

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  • moorebaseballmoorebaseball Members Posts: 251 ✭✭
    jasonp87 wrote:


    Maltby TE forged. You wont get a softer more forgiving CB.



    From your list though. The mp18 will be softest. I didnt find the 919T to be soft at all. The 718ap2 are a good middle ground for feel and forgiveness.



    Havent hit the 760s.




    Hopefully I can find a place nearby to hit these. I am not sold on the irons I mentioned unless they live up to my expectations. I just see these irons mentioned quite a bit. I am happy I am receiving so many comments for other clubs. I am on a search for the softest most forgiving cavity back....no matter the brand.
  • moorebaseballmoorebaseball Members Posts: 251 ✭✭
    jaymay82 wrote:


    OP, have you tried the JPX 919 Forged?



    For me hitting the 7 iron on the 919 Forged, and the MP-18 SC, I got an average of 5-8 yards more vs. the SC.



    Feel-wise, even with the boron infusion, I felt like both were equally as soft.




    I have not hit them yet, but I am definitely planning on giving them a rip. Are the lofts stronger on the 919s?
  • moorebaseballmoorebaseball Members Posts: 251 ✭✭



    Ping i210. Very forgiving and as soft a cast club as you can find. I'm obviously biased, but I purchased them because I think they have all the players iron qualities I wanted in the most forgiving package.




    Do these clubs have quite a bit of offset?


    Not in the P-7. They do have noticeably more in the 6-3. Just depends how much offset bothers you. Guys on tour play full sets as well as just the long irons.



    Also, if you’re buying new, these are quite a bit cheaper than the mizuno, Titleist, and TaylorMade options. Not sure about the Srixon.




    I will add them to the list.
  • HaberHaber Members Posts: 119 ✭✭




    Ping i210. Very forgiving and as soft a cast club as you can find. I'm obviously biased, but I purchased them because I think they have all the players iron qualities I wanted in the most forgiving package.




    Do these clubs have quite a bit of offset?


    Not in the P-7. They do have noticeably more in the 6-3. Just depends how much offset bothers you. Guys on tour play full sets as well as just the long irons.



    Also, if you’re buying new, these are quite a bit cheaper than the mizuno, Titleist, and TaylorMade options. Not sure about the Srixon.




    I will add them to the list.




    I play these in 4-p and when I have an off day and my swing isn't on I sure am glad to have the forgiveness these bring to the table.
  • sfdoddsysfdoddsy Members Posts: 1,322 ✭✭
    If you want soft and forgiving it would be hard to go past PXG.



    With the current discounts on the Gen 1 irons they are also the same or less than those mentioned.
    Callaway Fusion Matrix
    Cobra F6 Baffler
    Ping G400 hybrid
    PXG irons
    PXG & Miura wedges
    Edel E3 putter
  • TherealpatgilesTherealpatgiles Members Posts: 320 ✭✭
    I have to believe anything epon would fit your bill. I have the 503s and they're butter soft. I assume the af tour cb are similar in feel. I do have a set of j15cb and they are also super soft.
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    Nike vapor pro combo 3 iron
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  • moorebaseballmoorebaseball Members Posts: 251 ✭✭


    Vega vdc-01 In raw. ( black ). You can name all you want. That's the king of soft and forgiving. You can't feel the ball come off the face of that forging.




    How will that black finish hold up?
  • moorebaseballmoorebaseball Members Posts: 251 ✭✭
    Any other irons I should be hitting?
  • JagpilotohioJagpilotohio 45+ inch drivers are evil. Columbus, OHMembers Posts: 7,222 ✭✭


    Any other irons I should be hitting?




    Hogan PTx. Best irons I’ve ever played. Forged titanium face welded to a forged steel body.



    They have a nice 2 club demo program since they are factory direct only. $20 gets you a mid and a short iron to try for two weeks. Send them back with a prepaid shipping tag when you’re done. If you like them, order a set. I knew after 10 minutes of hitting them on the driving range I was ordering a set. I’ve been playing them 30 months now.



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  • WidespreadPanicWidespreadPanic Wizard in the Corner Members Posts: 4,826 ✭✭
    edited Nov 9, 2018 #41
    Add p770 to the list. I never thought I would be considering buying a TM iron, but they’re worth a look. My list...

    SC18,Z765,900T,P770,X Forged
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    Cobra F7 15.5*
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    Mizuno MP18 Fli Hi 4i
    Mizuno MP18 SC 5-PW
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  • Slingin' PancakesSlingin' Pancakes Roger Klarvin Members Posts: 4
    elwhippy wrote:


    Mizuno will be the softest. Srixon a close second. I imagine the TM will be most forgiving. AP2s are very blade like in their performance. P760 goes very high and straight with DG 105 and 120 shafts.




    I got fitted for Miz, Titleist, and Srixon and found the Srixon to be the softest. Having said that don't go by what people say on here...it's all subjective. Hit them all and go by your personal feel and data. Everyone's swing is different and different clubs suit different people!
  • bladehunterbladehunter Today was a good day.... Members Posts: 25,827 ✭✭



    Vega vdc-01 In raw. ( black ). You can name all you want. That's the king of soft and forgiving. You can't feel the ball come off the face of that forging.




    How will that black finish hold up?




    Is better than most. But the face will wear immediately. It’s a raw iron. The backside willl hold up better than others I’ve seen though. Just wear spots on the face will go to raw after first round or two. I preferred this. But I know some don’t. No black finish out there that the face holds to black.
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  • JoeHatesSnowJoeHatesSnow Members Posts: 316 ✭✭
    If you are looking for the softest and most forgiving, I agree that Maltby TE Forged is your answer.
  • 300_Straight300_Straight Members Posts: 955 ✭✭
    Wilson V6 Tour is also a great feeling iron from what I've heard. Never personally tested it, though.



    Any Srizon 7 or 9 series irons are very soft, as are most Mizunos, Callaway X Forged, etc. I don't know any of the exotic brands.
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  • smoky25smoky25 Members Posts: 1,029 ✭✭


    Any other irons I should be hitting?




    If you can get your hands on a set of 2011 Callaway Legacy Blacks (Stenson model) try them. There's a reason he still plays this model. Softest forged cavity backs I've ever played. I have 2 sets "just in case." And no you can't have my backup set.
  • i*windowsi*windows Members Posts: 2,159 ✭✭
    lots of options, the Wilson c300 forged feel great to me, what about New Level Golf, who are getting a bit of attention lately, look very nice and are supposed to feel great.
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    Odyssey O-Works Jailbird Mini.
  • chisagchisag Members Posts: 2,934 ✭✭
    ... I seem to be the only one on this forum that keeps singing the praises for Cobra's Amp Forged/Fly Z+/Forged Tour irons. Excellent soft feel, mid size head, workable and very forgiving for a players iron. I have played all 3 versions and would still be playing them had I not fund the P790's, although I still play my Forged Tours several times a season.
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    Adams LS 19* ... Kuro Kage Black 75s
    TaylorMade UDi 18* 2 iron... HZRDUS Black 85hy
    Taylor Made P790 4 iron ... Recoil 95
    5-pw TaylorMade P760 ... Recoil Prototype 95's
    SM6 52* F Grind /SM7 D Grind 58* ... Recoil 110s
    Bobby Grace 6330 ... 33.5"
  • BirdieBobBirdieBob PXG Members Posts: 4,053 ✭✭


    Any other irons I should be hitting?






    Yes, anything PXG.....filled front cavity, blade looking iron with the softest feel of any iron.

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  • mizunoMX25mizunoMX25 Members Posts: 250 ✭✭
    I've played Mizuno's forever. I recently decided I wanted to try something new. I had my eye on the Srixon Z785's as they felt just as soft as Mizuno to me. I ended up with 718 AP2's because I got a good deal on them and they were my 3rd favorite. I haven't regretted my decision thus far. I can work the ball either way and I kind of like having those traditional distances. You know if you hit the shot you aimed to hit it's gonna go the distance you want it to go. Of course that could be said for any of these clubs except maybe the TM. The 790 had horrible hot spots for me. The AP2 isn't as soft as Mizuno but still has a nice forged feel and enough forgiveness for my needs, I'd say a little better than SC and a little worse than MMC. Although to be fair the MP18SC's are NOTICEABLY softer feeling than the MMC. The MMC is still very nice, but the SC's are like butter. But with that extra softness you give up some forgiveness.
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    TM Burner 3W
    Callaway OptiForce 5W
    818H1 3H 21*
    Srixon Z785 5-PW Aerotech i110 S
    Titleist Vokey 52F (Bent to 50)
    Callaway 54/58 PM Grind 2019
    Scotty Cameron Newport / Machine M2A
  • moorebaseballmoorebaseball Members Posts: 251 ✭✭




    Vega vdc-01 In raw. ( black ). You can name all you want. That's the king of soft and forgiving. You can't feel the ball come off the face of that forging.




    How will that black finish hold up?




    Is better than most. But the face will wear immediately. It's a raw iron. The backside willl hold up better than others I've seen though. Just wear spots on the face will go to raw after first round or two. I preferred this. But I know some don't. No black finish out there that the face holds to black.




    They look gorgeous. I will be hitting them next week along with 20 other irons I have on the list now hahaha.
  • tmax77tmax77 Members Posts: 1,013 ✭✭
    chisag wrote:


    ... I seem to be the only one on this forum that keeps singing the praises for Cobra's Amp Forged/Fly Z+/Forged Tour irons. Excellent soft feel, mid size head, workable and very forgiving for a players iron. I have played all 3 versions and would still be playing them had I not fund the P790's, although I still play my Forged Tours several times a season.




    Those three cobras are very sneaky good...often overlooked
    Under construction....
  • puttingmattputtingmatt puttingmatt Members Posts: 5,093 ✭✭
    Compare the X Forged to others, great iron, soft feel , played Mizuno blades for decades, the X Forged are the closest in feel.


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  • geochitowngeochitown Members Posts: 1,668 ✭✭
    Obligatory mention of maxfli revolution black dots



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  • jonn443jonn443 Jonnystx Members Posts: 4,596 ✭✭
    Played Mizuno for 10 years+, Endo forging through Bridgestone (J15cb) was noticeably softer then my 53s,64s, and MP4s. I love Mizzy but Bridgestone defeated them quite handedly. You may find some Boutique irons that are as soft but it will not be easy.
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    XTD 19*/ Fubuki Ax
    DWS 24*/ VS Proto
    J15 CB 5-PW/ Modus 3 125S
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  • dunndunn Members Posts: 6,361 ✭✭
    edited Nov 10, 2018 #56

    jasonp87 wrote:


    Maltby TE forged. You wont get a softer more forgiving CB.



    From your list though. The mp18 will be softest. I didnt find the 919T to be soft at all. The 718ap2 are a good middle ground for feel and forgiveness.



    Havent hit the 760s.




    Hopefully I can find a place nearby to hit these. I am not sold on the irons I mentioned unless they live up to my expectations. I just see these irons mentioned quite a bit. I am happy I am receiving so many comments for other clubs. I am on a search for the softest most forgiving cavity back....no matter the brand.
    go look at JDM clubs like Vegas, on off, epon, etc....



    They make more forgiving cavity backs that are forged....even some SGI ones that are forged......more so than domestic market



    Everyone gonna have different opinion on softest and most forgiving but JDM will have way more options especially those on larger side of CB's



    And they use soft metals for most part



    You do also know that soft and forgiveness kinda contradict each other.....more mass behind ball better the feel...more perimeter weighting to help forgiveness takes mass away from behind the ball......always a compromise
  • dunndunn Members Posts: 6,361 ✭✭
    jonn443 wrote:


    Played Mizuno for 10 years+, Endo forging through Bridgestone (J15cb) was noticeably softer then my 53s,64s, and MP4s. I love Mizzy but Bridgestone defeated them quite handedly. You may find some Boutique irons that are as soft but it will not be easy.
    I had cpl sets of J15 and didnt think they were softer than my mizzys.....all perspective and gonna change a hundred ways between peeps....
  • moorebaseballmoorebaseball Members Posts: 251 ✭✭
    i*windows wrote:


    lots of options, the Wilson c300 forged feel great to me, what about New Level Golf, who are getting a bit of attention lately, look very nice and are supposed to feel great.




    I have heard great things about New Level Golf. They are on my list of irons to hit. They are making great looking irons and wedges in my opinion. I cannot wait to see how these perform!
  • moorebaseballmoorebaseball Members Posts: 251 ✭✭
    jonn443 wrote:


    Played Mizuno for 10 years+, Endo forging through Bridgestone (J15cb) was noticeably softer then my 53s,64s, and MP4s. I love Mizzy but Bridgestone defeated them quite handedly. You may find some Boutique irons that are as soft but it will not be easy.




    Any new Bridgestone irons I should be hitting? The J15 cbs are great looking irons!
  • moorebaseballmoorebaseball Members Posts: 251 ✭✭
    dunn wrote:


    jasonp87 wrote:


    Maltby TE forged. You wont get a softer more forgiving CB.



    From your list though. The mp18 will be softest. I didnt find the 919T to be soft at all. The 718ap2 are a good middle ground for feel and forgiveness.



    Havent hit the 760s.




    Hopefully I can find a place nearby to hit these. I am not sold on the irons I mentioned unless they live up to my expectations. I just see these irons mentioned quite a bit. I am happy I am receiving so many comments for other clubs. I am on a search for the softest most forgiving cavity back....no matter the brand.
    go look at JDM clubs like Vegas, on off, epon, etc....



    They make more forgiving cavity backs that are forged....even some SGI ones that are forged......more so than domestic market



    Everyone gonna have different opinion on softest and most forgiving but JDM will have way more options especially those on larger side of CB's



    And they use soft metals for most part



    You do also know that soft and forgiveness kinda contradict each other.....more mass behind ball better the feel...more perimeter weighting to help forgiveness takes mass away from behind the ball......always a compromise




    I will be hitting Vega and Epon in my fitting. They look like great irons!
  • grm24grm24 Western PAMembers Posts: 3,095 ✭✭
    geochitown wrote:


    Obligatory mention of maxfli revolution black dots Forged feel with a nickel coated casting
    This +100
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