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  • StanksStanks Everything I post is confrontational Members  1860WRX Points: 301Handicap: ?Posts: 1,860 Platinum Tees
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    Still have my tours. Still love them. Recently switched balls again to the TP5 (thank you liquidation of TM product!) and they seem to do well with my Tours.
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  • SwingManSwingMan SwingMan Members  6835WRX Points: 93Handicap: 9.8Posts: 6,835 Titanium Tees
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    russian7 wrote:
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    SwingMan wrote:
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    russian7 wrote:
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    Yeah 900F topline was too thick, launch was too low, feel was ok and the badges sucked, couple rounds and they would be all scratched and dinged looking horrible<br />
    <br />
    <br />
    Says Debbie Downer ... lol<br />
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    Hahahahaha I had them, i paid full retail an was so pumped then got disappointed LOL<br />
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    If you're talking 919F, I find they get better the more you play them. Launch? Even with too stiff shafts at 6.0 softstepped, mine get up there. Bought a second set in 5.0 hardstepped - don't feel the need to go after it and less dispersion. Oh, and they don't get dinged up. The only downside is the badge when it's wet - can collect mud on the edges - a slight rinse in the bucket is needed. Sound and feel get better as you get accustomed to them. Distance is more than PXG and more consistent -added a club's worth. They shine more on the course than range.
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  • jetmech879jetmech879 Members  1546WRX Points: 272Posts: 1,546 Platinum Tees
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    Second round with the 919 forged today. Much better results! I had them adjusted and installed my grips on them. They where 2° upright. I bent them to my specs of 1° flat. It made a huge difference! I was throwing darts with them today. I absolutely love the feel of these irons and think I'll be able to adjust to the longer blade length if the result stay the same. I hit some great shots and some awful ones. Even the bad ones ended up pretty darn good. Definitely an improvement over the 900 forged in every way imo.
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  • Chuck905Chuck905 Members  1608WRX Points: 331Handicap: 7Posts: 1,608 Platinum Tees
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    It’s a matter of personal taste.<br />
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    I finally had a chance to throughly examine the 919T at the store and personally, it looks ugly. <br />
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    The sole is fat or comparable to the 18SC, the top line ain’t pleasing and the back side is something else.<br />
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    Didn’t even bother hitting it.<br />
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    The 900T is plenty forgiving and the right amount of size for when the ground is soft. <br />
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    The MP18 blades is the best looking and feeling out of the Mizuno line .<br />
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    boycer11 wrote:
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    I'm not sure how people can say that the 919 tour look better the the mp 18 blades or mp69 etc. You people are on crack.<br />
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    Chuck905 wrote:
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    It’s a matter of personal taste.<br />
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    I finally had a chance to throughly examine the 919T at the store and personally, it looks ugly. <br />
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    The sole is fat or comparable to the 18SC, the top line ain’t pleasing and the back side is something else.<br />
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    Didn’t even bother hitting it.<br />
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    The 900T is plenty forgiving and the right amount of size for when the ground is soft. <br />
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    The MP18 blades is the best looking and feeling out of the Mizuno line .<br />
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    boycer11 wrote:
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    I'm not sure how people can say that the 919 tour look better the the mp 18 blades or mp69 etc. You people are on crack.<br />
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    Interesting. The 919T is the best looking iron I’ve ever seen. Compared to the 900T (I said the same about them when they came out) the 919 has a wider sole, thinner top line, and arguably better weight distribution. I’m not knocking the 900 by any means, just more in love with the 919.
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  • Chuck905Chuck905 Members  1608WRX Points: 331Handicap: 7Posts: 1,608 Platinum Tees
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    I totally understand where you are coming from and respect your point of view.<br />
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    Looks are definitely important but performance that matches your swing and ground conditions trumps.<br />
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    Personally the width of the sole is too wide for precision but this would equate to forgiveness to others. <br />
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    The cavity design, I’m not sure if they are trying to move the center of the sweet spot towards the toe? <br />
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    This wouldn’t work for my swing as my sweet spot is closer to the heel. I also need more clubhead rotation which is why I prefer a blade. If I need the stability, the 900T is more than suffice. I’m guessing 919T a sweet spot towards the toe would lead to pushes like the 18SC when one would lack clubhead rotation thru impact.<br />
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    I will say that I like the look of less offset and that Mizuno went to “standard lengths” being an extra 1/4” from previous releases but they still kept the PW at 63* lie, 64* would of been preferred for off the rack play in North America.<br />
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    Chuck905 wrote:
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    It’s a matter of personal taste.<br />
    <br />
    I finally had a chance to throughly examine the 919T at the store and personally, it looks ugly. <br />
    <br />
    The sole is fat or comparable to the 18SC, the top line ain’t pleasing and the back side is something else.<br />
    <br />
    Didn’t even bother hitting it.<br />
    <br />
    The 900T is plenty forgiving and the right amount of size for when the ground is soft. <br />
    <br />
    The MP18 blades is the best looking and feeling out of the Mizuno line .<br />
    <br />
    boycer11 wrote:
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    I'm not sure how people can say that the 919 tour look better the the mp 18 blades or mp69 etc. You people are on crack.<br />
    <br />
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    Interesting. The 919T is the best looking iron I’ve ever seen. Compared to the 900T (I said the same about them when they came out) the 919 has a wider sole, thinner top line, and arguably better weight distribution. I’m not knocking the 900 by any means, just more in love with the 919.<br />
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    SwingMan wrote:
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    russian7 wrote:
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    SwingMan wrote:
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    russian7 wrote:
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    Yeah 900F topline was too thick, launch was too low, feel was ok and the badges sucked, couple rounds and they would be all scratched and dinged looking horrible<br />
    <br />
    <br />
    Says Debbie Downer ... lol<br />
    <br />
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    Hahahahaha I had them, i paid full retail an was so pumped then got disappointed LOL<br />
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    If you're talking 919F, I find they get better the more you play them. Launch? Even with too stiff shafts at 6.0 softstepped, mine get up there. Bought a second set in 5.0 hardstepped - don't feel the need to go after it and less dispersion. Oh, and they don't get dinged up. The only downside is the badge when it's wet - can collect mud on the edges - a slight rinse in the bucket is needed. Sound and feel get better as you get accustomed to them. Distance is more than PXG and more consistent -added a club's worth. They shine more on the course than range.<br />
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    Love the PX 5.0 hardstepped. I find that shaft can take a lot and the Rifles only feel ‘boardy’ if you play them too stiff. Have never hardstepped a 5.0. How do you like them and can you feel a substantial difference vs the 6.0?
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  • SwingManSwingMan SwingMan Members  6835WRX Points: 93Handicap: 9.8Posts: 6,835 Titanium Tees
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    dmeeksDC wrote:
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    SwingMan wrote:
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    russian7 wrote:
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    SwingMan wrote:
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    russian7 wrote:
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    Yeah 900F topline was too thick, launch was too low, feel was ok and the badges sucked, couple rounds and they would be all scratched and dinged looking horrible<br />
    <br />
    <br />
    Says Debbie Downer ... lol<br />
    <br />
    <br />
    Hahahahaha I had them, i paid full retail an was so pumped then got disappointed LOL<br />
    <br />
    <br />
    If you're talking 919F, I find they get better the more you play them. Launch? Even with too stiff shafts at 6.0 softstepped, mine get up there. Bought a second set in 5.0 hardstepped - don't feel the need to go after it and less dispersion. Oh, and they don't get dinged up. The only downside is the badge when it's wet - can collect mud on the edges - a slight rinse in the bucket is needed. Sound and feel get better as you get accustomed to them. Distance is more than PXG and more consistent -added a club's worth. They shine more on the course than range.<br />
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    Love the PX 5.0 hardstepped. I find that shaft can take a lot and the Rifles only feel 'boardy' if you play them too stiff. Have never hardstepped a 5.0. How do you like them and can you feel a substantial difference vs the 6.0?<br />
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    I was not clear in the post above - I have the PX LZ Tour 5.0 graphite hardstepped, and 6.0 softstepped.<br />
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    Truthfully, I can not yet feel the difference. It may take more range sessions. The first time I hit the 6.0, I said Ruh, roh ... had a tough time launching them with range balls. Took them to course right out of the box and hit them well - added a club + and launch was high mid. Couldn't be happier BUT thought the mental side of the 6.0 had me going after them more than I should. If they did not work, then I thought, heck, I'll reshaft with Accra Constant Weight 85 or 95. So purchased the 5.0 ... with both set's 7i, I still tended to go after the 6.0 with dispersion on the range, while the 5.0 tended to be tighter. Need to get on Trackman and pick up numbers but the 7i with the 6.0 was giving me 5900 spin, carry of over 150, and speed of 80 mph - decent numbers. My instructor said the CPMs measuring from the butt were 306 - which he said were above 10 cycles too stiff - I have no idea. But I do know the butt and tip of the PX LZ are stiff while the mid is soft - so it may be a shaft design thing.
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  • nofxnate28nofxnate28 Members  40WRX Points: 7Posts: 40 Bunkers
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    Saw that the jpx fli hi is going to be from 4-7 iron.
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    nofxnate28 wrote:
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    Saw that the jpx fli hi is going to be from 4-7 iron.<br />
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    Some will not be happy on no 3 iron. I just need a 5.
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    Used my buddies combo set today the same setup as mine but he got 4-6 919F an 7-PW Tours.<br />
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    Thoughts..<br />
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    Not as forgiv8ng as my forged tec blacks, the forged are fairly long but still require a good strike, the tours really need to be hit pure, off center hits you lose fair amount. Looks in both are very nice all around. Good turf interaction too.<br />
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    I was mainly hitting cuts I wasn't used to the minimal offset and most shots went right and it was harder for me to turn them over. I just think for what they are I get all of the same things out of my cobras but even more forgiveness and maybe a hair more length as well
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    Warrick wrote:
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    nofxnate28 wrote:
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    Saw that the jpx fli hi is going to be from 4-7 iron.<br />
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    Some will not be happy on no 3 iron. I just need a 5.<br />
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    me for example... :-(
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    I took the MMC/MB combo out for a run yesterday (played all season), have to say I am preferring the 919T. The mid irons are really not any less forgiving, and look better. The scoring irons look great and offer a bit more help than the MB's.<br />
    <br />
    Spring is a long way off, but exited to have these in the bag for 2019. I will most likely add a JPX Fli-Hi #5 when they release, and put the MP Fli-Hi back with the original combo set.
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  • jetmech879jetmech879 Members  1546WRX Points: 272Posts: 1,546 Platinum Tees
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    SecondShot wrote:
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    Warrick wrote:
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    nofxnate28 wrote:
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    Saw that the jpx fli hi is going to be from 4-7 iron.<br />
    <br />
    <br />
    Some will not be happy on no 3 iron. I just need a 5.<br />
    <br />
    me for example... :-(<br />
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    And me! That doesn't make any sense at all. I thought they where jpx pro driving irons? Between the forged and hot metal, what is the need for another 4-7 option. I'm not sure I believe that there won't be a stronger opinion than a 4 iron.
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    jetmech879 wrote:
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    SecondShot wrote:
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    Warrick wrote:
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    nofxnate28 wrote:
    <br />
    Saw that the jpx fli hi is going to be from 4-7 iron.<br />
    <br />
    <br />
    Some will not be happy on no 3 iron. I just need a 5.<br />
    <br />
    me for example... :-(<br />
    <br />
    <br />
    And me! That doesn't make any sense at all. I thought they where jpx pro driving irons? Between the forged and hot metal, what is the need for another 4-7 option. I'm not sure I believe that there won't be a stronger opinion than a 4 iron.<br />
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    Or the 4 might be 19*.
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    Warrick wrote:
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    I took the MMC/MB combo out for a run yesterday (played all season), have to say I am preferring the 919T. The mid irons are really not any less forgiving, and look better. The scoring irons look great and offer a bit more help than the MB's.<br />
    <br />
    Spring is a long way off, but exited to have these in the bag for 2019. I will most likely add a JPX Fli-Hi #5 when they release, and put the MP Fli-Hi back with the original combo set.<br />
    <br />
    Curious, why did you go with MMC instead of SC?
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    jetmech879 wrote:
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    SecondShot wrote:
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    Warrick wrote:
    <br />
    nofxnate28 wrote:
    <br />
    Saw that the jpx fli hi is going to be from 4-7 iron.<br />
    <br />
    <br />
    Some will not be happy on no 3 iron. I just need a 5.<br />
    <br />
    me for example... :-(<br />
    <br />
    <br />
    And me! That doesn't make any sense at all. I thought they where jpx pro driving irons? Between the forged and hot metal, what is the need for another 4-7 option. I'm not sure I believe that there won't be a stronger opinion than a 4 iron.<br />
    <br />
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    I saw this on the Mizuno custom order sheet. I thought it was weird but definitely no option for a 3 iron on there.
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    Warrick wrote:
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    I took the MMC/MB combo out for a run yesterday (played all season), have to say I am preferring the 919T. The mid irons are really not any less forgiving, and look better. The scoring irons look great and offer a bit more help than the MB's.<br />
    <br />
    Spring is a long way off, but exited to have these in the bag for 2019. I will most likely add a JPX Fli-Hi #5 when they release, and put the MP Fli-Hi back with the original combo set.<br />
    <br />
    Curious, why did you go with MMC instead of SC?<br />
    <br />
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    stronger lofts to match my900F set, had the MB's bent one strong. I actually just liked them better also, not sure why.
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    RobS14526 wrote:
    <br />
    jetmech879 wrote:
    <br />
    SecondShot wrote:
    <br />
    Warrick wrote:
    <br />
    nofxnate28 wrote:
    <br />
    Saw that the jpx fli hi is going to be from 4-7 iron.<br />
    <br />
    <br />
    Some will not be happy on no 3 iron. I just need a 5.<br />
    <br />
    me for example... :-(<br />
    <br />
    <br />
    And me! That doesn't make any sense at all. I thought they where jpx pro driving irons? Between the forged and hot metal, what is the need for another 4-7 option. I'm not sure I believe that there won't be a stronger opinion than a 4 iron.<br />
    <br />
    <br />
    Or the 4 might be 19*.<br />
    <br />
    <br />
    That's a very good point.
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  • russian7russian7 Members  2662WRX Points: 122Posts: 2,662 Titanium Tees
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    On the course for me was way different than the launch monitor I'm getting some weird Turf interaction with my friends set and I can't seem to make that great of contact or get the ball to do anything other than thin or cut...<br />
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    Right now after two rounds with my friends set that is the same specs as what I ordered for the most part im not impressed.<br />
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    My cobras seem quite a bit more forgiving easier to work the ball both ways and they are longer.<br />
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    I am going to get my actual set out in the next couple weeks but as of right now I don't see them being able to beat my cobras but thats just me ...
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    I got a quick 9 in this afternoon, put the 919T back in, oh yeah, these are the ticket, turf interaction is sublime.
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    Warrick wrote:
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    I got a quick 9 in this afternoon, put the 919T back in, oh yeah, these are the ticket, turf interaction is sublime.<br />
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    Yeah I think it will just take time they're completely different then my cobras so they may be amazing but I just have to get used to them and since I'm gambling for good amounts of money when I play... well I don't know if I will give them enough time or not
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    I don’t really understand why so many are moving to these over a fli-hi and mp18 combo set. The 18’s are not at all hard to hit from the 6 or 7 down. So, what exactly are you gaining in the 919t. I.e. why does it even exist?
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    denvergolf wrote:
    <br />
    I don't really understand why so many are moving to these over a fli-hi and mp18 combo set. The 18's are not at all hard to hit from the 6 or 7 down. So, what exactly are you gaining in the 919t. I.e. why does it even exist?<br />
    <br />
    <br />
    hit them and see.<br />
    <br />
    to me I was these are ok with the mp18s.<br />
    for me the Tours were love on second round(first round they sent me a set out of spec).
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  • Chuck905Chuck905 Members  1608WRX Points: 331Handicap: 7Posts: 1,608 Platinum Tees
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    Dumbfounded and skeptical as well on the 919T.<br />
    <br />
    I own the 18MB which is very easy to hit and the 900T are my GI. I game a 3-PW in both sets.<br />
    <br />
    The 919T are a GI in disguise with such a fat sole and toe bias design.<br />
    <br />
    What I see at address on the 3 iron is a thin top line, little offset but a fat sole and rear that is awfully visible.<br />
    <br />
    denvergolf wrote:
    <br />
    I don’t really understand why so many are moving to these over a fli-hi and mp18 combo set. The 18’s are not at all hard to hit from the 6 or 7 down. So, what exactly are you gaining in the 919t. I.e. why does it even exist?<br />
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  • WarrickWarrick ClubWRX  11635WRX Points: 1,386Handicap: 7Posts: 11,635 ClubWRX
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    Chuck905 wrote:
    <br />
    Dumbfounded and skeptical as well on the 919T.<br />
    <br />
    I own the 18MB which is very easy to hit and the 900T are my GI. I game a 3-PW in both sets.<br />
    <br />
    The 919T are a GI in disguise with such a fat sole and toe bias design.<br />
    <br />
    What I see at address on the 3 iron is a thin top line, little offset but a fat sole and rear that is awfully visible.<br />
    <br />
    denvergolf wrote:
    <br />
    I don't really understand why so many are moving to these over a fli-hi and mp18 combo set. The 18's are not at all hard to hit from the 6 or 7 down. So, what exactly are you gaining in the 919t. I.e. why does it even exist?<br />
    <br />
    <br />
    <br />
    Why dumfounded that someone might like something different from you. The 919T are easier to hit than the 18 MB's. Why does it even exist? How about another option from Mizuno. We get it, you don't like them, and don't understand where they fit. No one is forcing you to buy a set.<br />
    <br />
    I love it when people refer to a true MB as "very easy" to hit.
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  • russian7russian7 Members  2662WRX Points: 122Posts: 2,662 Titanium Tees
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    Warrick wrote:
    <br />
    Chuck905 wrote:
    <br />
    Dumbfounded and skeptical as well on the 919T.<br />
    <br />
    I own the 18MB which is very easy to hit and the 900T are my GI. I game a 3-PW in both sets.<br />
    <br />
    The 919T are a GI in disguise with such a fat sole and toe bias design.<br />
    <br />
    What I see at address on the 3 iron is a thin top line, little offset but a fat sole and rear that is awfully visible.<br />
    <br />
    denvergolf wrote:
    <br />
    I don't really understand why so many are moving to these over a fli-hi and mp18 combo set. The 18's are not at all hard to hit from the 6 or 7 down. So, what exactly are you gaining in the 919t. I.e. why does it even exist?<br />
    <br />
    <br />
    <br />
    Why dumfounded that someone might like something different from you. The 919T are easier to hit than the 18 MB's. Why does it even exist? How about another option from Mizuno. We get it, you don't like them, and don't understand where they fit. No one is forcing you to buy a set.<br />
    <br />
    I love it when people refer to a true MB as "very easy" to hit.<br />
    <br />
    <br />
    Im a +1 an the 919 Tours are NOT easy to hit haha, you dont hit it flush center and you know and they punish you. Great irons but I dont even think the forged are that forgiving for the design for my swing but thats just my opinion, as I said in the other post my cobras are more forgiving than both IMO
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  • WidespreadPanicWidespreadPanic Wizard in the Corner Members  4909WRX Points: 220Handicap: 0.4Posts: 4,909 Titanium Tees
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    JPX are modern design, MP’s are classic. Shocker: some people prefer one over the other.
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  • denvergolfdenvergolf Castle Pines, COMembers  1711WRX Points: 524Handicap: 1.2Posts: 1,711 Platinum Tees
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    Warrick wrote:
    <br />
    Chuck905 wrote:
    <br />
    Dumbfounded and skeptical as well on the 919T.<br />
    <br />
    I own the 18MB which is very easy to hit and the 900T are my GI. I game a 3-PW in both sets.<br />
    <br />
    The 919T are a GI in disguise with such a fat sole and toe bias design.<br />
    <br />
    What I see at address on the 3 iron is a thin top line, little offset but a fat sole and rear that is awfully visible.<br />
    <br />
    denvergolf wrote:
    <br />
    I don't really understand why so many are moving to these over a fli-hi and mp18 combo set. The 18's are not at all hard to hit from the 6 or 7 down. So, what exactly are you gaining in the 919t. I.e. why does it even exist?<br />
    <br />
    <br />
    <br />
    Why dumfounded that someone might like something different from you. The 919T are easier to hit than the 18 MB's. Why does it even exist? How about another option from Mizuno. We get it, you don't like them, and don't understand where they fit. No one is forcing you to buy a set.<br />
    <br />
    I love it when people refer to a true MB as "very easy" to hit.<br />
    I have no dislike whatsoever, and they are tour proven. They have 6 sets of irons out right now, and the 919 tour seems like a weird fit to me, as in they already have that niche covered. And, no, the MP18 are not difficult to hit.<br />
    <br />
    It doesn't mean I won't own a set either <img src='http://www.golfwrx.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />
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    TaylorMade SIM TI, 15*, MRC Tensei Pro White - 80TX
    Callaway UT 3i, PX 6.0
    TaylorMade P7-TW, 4i-PW, DGTI X100
    Callaway Jaws MD5 raw 52S, 56S, 60T, DG TI S400
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  • doublehansdoublehans Members  671WRX Points: 76Posts: 671 Golden Tee
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    denvergolf wrote:
    Warrick wrote:
    <br />
    Chuck905 wrote:
    <br />
    Dumbfounded and skeptical as well on the 919T.<br />
    <br />
    I own the 18MB which is very easy to hit and the 900T are my GI. I game a 3-PW in both sets.<br />
    <br />
    The 919T are a GI in disguise with such a fat sole and toe bias design.<br />
    <br />
    What I see at address on the 3 iron is a thin top line, little offset but a fat sole and rear that is awfully visible.<br />
    <br />
    denvergolf wrote:
    <br />
    I don't really understand why so many are moving to these over a fli-hi and mp18 combo set. The 18's are not at all hard to hit from the 6 or 7 down. So, what exactly are you gaining in the 919t. I.e. why does it even exist?<br />
    <br />
    <br />
    <br />
    Why dumfounded that someone might like something different from you. The 919T are easier to hit than the 18 MB's. Why does it even exist? How about another option from Mizuno. We get it, you don't like them, and don't understand where they fit. No one is forcing you to buy a set.<br />
    <br />
    I love it when people refer to a true MB as "very easy" to hit.<br />
    I have no dislike whatsoever, and they are tour proven. They have 6 sets of irons out right now, and the 919 tour seems like a weird fit to me, as in they already have that niche covered. And, no, the MP18 are not difficult to hit.<br />
    <br />
    It doesn't mean I won't own a set either <img src='http://www.golfwrx.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />
    <br />
    <br />
    I think its easier to answer if you flip the question and ask why they need the mp18s when they already had the 900s (and now the 919s). when the mp18s came out, all player types could find sthg that worked out of the jpx line.<br />
    <br />
    if you assume the MPs are the main line of mizuno then the JPXs can seem redundant. but if you assume the JPX is mizunos main line of clubs then it all makes a lot more sense. they make the JPX as their max engineered clubs, the JPX are the what mizuno sees as the leading edge in club design. and then they keep the MPs around because they have a loyal following.<br />
    <br />
    i think of it as this, the mp is the club mizuno HAS to produce for the bottom line, so many of their loyalists are traditionalists. but mizuno doesnt just want to be boxed into that reputation. so the jpx are the clubs mizuno WANTS to make, the clubs that push less traditional design and max out engineering more. if they were to choose one line for performance, its the jpx. but for longterm customers (and $$$) they have to make the MPs too.
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