Hogan Apex Plus to What

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Have played Ben Hogan Apex Plus irons (pre-2000 version with Apex 4 flex) for about 2 years now and am looking for something new. I dabbled with the P770s last year but did not like them. The Hogans are starting to show some age but hard to replicate their feel and control. Played with MP-64s this Spring but they were used and had significant wear and tear on the face. May get criticized but the Hogan's felt just as soft as the MP-64s.



Question is if anyone has had similar experience and found irons they enjoyed. Was considering some newer options like the 919 Forged or new Srixon line. I am also intrigued by the new Cobra Forged Tec Black irons. I am a steep iron player/digger and am pretty against bulky irons. In addition to newer clubs, any suggestions on older clubs are also welcomed (newer than Apex's). Also as a former Marine, I have wrestled with the idea of just getting PXG Gen 1's.

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  • shaolingolfershaolingolfer Members Posts: 113 ✭✭
    Apex Plus to me is all time best irons. I switch to Adam CB1 many years ago. For older iron, I think CB1 and Adam Xtd are quite similar in feel and look.



    PXG Gen 1 is a very good choice also.
    Titleist 10.5 TS2, Tensei Blue AV Stiff
    Callaway Xhot 3W
    Callaway Apex 2 Hybrid Matrix Red Tie Stiff
    Callaway Apex 4 Hybrid Matrix Red Tie Stiff
    Srixon Z765 5-P Modus 120 Stiff
    50, 54, 60 Ping Stealth Glide 2.0 AWT
    Taylor Made Spyder Blade
  • cgasuckscgasucks Members Posts: 2,191 ✭✭
    Those Apex Pluses are still nice clubs. I could see why their feel is hard to replicate as they're forged by Endo.
    10.5 deg Titleist 905R with stock UST Proforce V2 Shaft
    Titleist DCI 990 Irons (3-PW) with stock Dynamic Gold shafts in S300
    Taylormade ATV 54 deg & 58 deg wedges with stock KBS shafts
    Taylormade V-Steel 5W & 3W with Grafalloy Prolaunch Red shafts
    Ping Anser 2 Stainless Steel Putter
  • Nard_SNard_S Members Posts: 3,215 ✭✭
    1999 Apex MB is bodacious . You want comparable GI to Plus's, TM RAC MB is quite easy to get on with. Or Titleist 962B, a fine cast CB of that day.
  • RainShadowRainShadow Tucson AZ (for now)Members Posts: 3,686 ✭✭
    Srixon 745, 765 or 785 would be close I think.
    Ping G400 10.5 Hzrdus Yellow 75 6.0
    Rogue 17* Atmos Blue TS
    G 410 19* Tour 85 R
    Apex  23 & 26 Kuro Kage S
    Cobra Forged Tec Black 6-GW Modus 105s (In Play) / Srixon Z765 6-GW Modus 105s (Standing By)
    MackDaddy4 Black 54 S and RTX 3 Raw 58* 
     Bettinardi '16 BB1 / '16 Bettinardi Tiki /  '17 Studio Stock 8
    Chrome Soft / TP5/ Wilson Staff FG Tour
  • KRW59KRW59 Hoarder Members Posts: 856 ✭✭
    The Ben Hogan PTX irons would be the natural choice.



    Quality forged , V-sole for diggers , priced right



    Cobra King F9 10.5* / Fuji Speeder Evo IV  569-SR
    TEE EX10 Beta 16.5* / Fuji Platinum Speeder 5-SR
    TEE EX10 19* / Fuji Platinum Speeder 6-S
    TEE EX9 22* / Attas 4U 7-S.
    TEE EX9 25* / Attas 4U 7-X
    I have added about 10 grams of weight to all the fwy / hybrid
    shafts , using Sensicore inserts wrapped with lead tape.

    Cobra Forged Tec Black / 28* 6 iron thru 49.5* GW / 4.5* gapping
    Recoil 780 Es Smac wrap F3 / GW shaft internally weighted to 95 grams

    King Black Wedges / 54* versatile/ Recoil 95 F3 shaft weighted to 110 grams
    58* versatile / Recoil 110 F4 shaft weighted to 125 grams ( heat shrink tube )

    Piretti Savona 2 Elite《Murdered》or 1/1 GSS High Toe Potenza II

    Flask - Crown Black
  • AutomaticTwoDownAutomaticTwoDown Two down after two, time to get to work Members Posts: 431 ✭✭
    Just grab another set from the electronic bay dot com. You’ll pay no more than $150.
  • James the Hogan FanJames the Hogan Fan Members Posts: 443 ✭✭
    edited Nov 7, 2018 #8
    I play the ’99 apex blade, with a backup set of apex edge pros. If those are a little too like-for-like, I found a mizuno MP-30 at my local range to try from the loaner bucket and hit it; felt softer than about anything else I’d ever hit, but I had just made an iron purchase and couldn’t afford another one.
    Golfing in Finland!
  • bfp9bfp9 Members Posts: 7 ✭✭
    Nard_S wrote:
    1999 Apex MB is bodacious . You want comparable GI to Plus's, TM RAC MB is quite easy to get on with. Or Titleist 962B, a fine cast CB of that day.




    This is what I did. I had 2006 Hogan Blades that I loved. They started to brown pretty significantly in the center - transitioned to 2005 TM RAC MBs 3-PW with the same shafts and I found them to actually be better and I enjoy them more than any other club I have hit. I’ve got OG Nike Blades, PXG Gen 1s, Hogan Blades, and the TMs and I play the TMs every time. The rest are either wall candy or getting sold. The PXGs were a huge let down to me in feel and performance. I too got the Hero discount which made it worth the shot - I won’t be trying any other PXG irons I don’t think.
  • zedzed Members Posts: 458 ✭✭
    Wilson V6 - trust me
    Ping G400 SFT 10 deg
    Titleist 915D2 16.5 deg
    Srixon Tour Hybrid 19 deg
    Srixon H65 22 deg
    Wilson Staff FG Tour V6 4-PW (Nippon 950 GH)
    Hogan TK Wedges 49/53/57
    Lajosi DD201 Long Neck Carbon Steel
  • Nard_SNard_S Members Posts: 3,215 ✭✭
    bfp9 wrote:

    Nard_S wrote:
    1999 Apex MB is bodacious . You want comparable GI to Plus's, TM RAC MB is quite easy to get on with. Or Titleist 962B, a fine cast CB of that day.




    This is what I did. I had 2006 Hogan Blades that I loved. They started to brown pretty significantly in the center - transitioned to 2005 TM RAC MBs 3-PW with the same shafts and I found them to actually be better and I enjoy them more than any other club I have hit. I’ve got OG Nike Blades, PXG Gen 1s, Hogan Blades, and the TMs and I play the TMs every time. The rest are either wall candy or getting sold. The PXGs were a huge let down to me in feel and performance. I too got the Hero discount which made it worth the shot - I won’t be trying any other PXG irons I don’t think.




    Carried the RAC's for many years, hands down best mix of traditional forged feel/performance and GI forgiveness I've come across. Still have them just moved on from shafts of my set.
  • SuperbritSuperbrit Members Posts: 464 ✭✭
    For newer models



    Mizuno MP-18 SC's or MMC's (yes my clubs)

    Srixon 7 series (there all pretty much the same)

    Titleist CB's





    Older models

    Callaway X forged, the last model, 2013 i think

    Cleveland 588 CB's

    Adams CB1's

    Titleist TS3 8.5*
    Titleist 915F 16.5*
    Titleist 816 19*
    Titleist AP3/AP2/MB Irons 4- PW
    Titleist SM7 Black 52/58*
    Scotty Cameron California fastback

  • mongo54mongo54 Members Posts: 38 ✭✭
    I played Hogan Apex for about 10 years until I decided it was time for a new set of sticks. I went with Mizuno MPH since they felt similar and had virtually the same look from the topline on down. Switch was seamless. Flight was a bit higher but I wanted that.
    Callaway Rogue
    Taylormade 3w
    Callaway Epic hybrid
    Callaway Rogue 5 wood
    Mizuno MPH 5-PW
    Vokey 50,56
    Scotty Cameron Red X2
  • dfrautschdfrautsch Members Posts: 2
    I played a mix set of Hogan Apex Plus (5,6,7) and Apex (8,9,E) for almost 10 years.

    This past February I replaced that set with a split set of Mizuno MP-18's.

    The MP-18 MMC's shape really reminds me of the Apex Plus, and the feel is amazing. Strongly recommended.

    The Mizuno PW shape still looks goofy compared to the Apex/Apex Plus Equalizer.

    The Srixon PW shape is better, but I couldn't deny the MP-18's performance.
  • RogerinNewZealandRogerinNewZealand Members Posts: 2,355 ✭✭
    More of the same, i got a nice set 18 months ago.

    Also mainly use MP37 and just bought Ping i15 set to test !
    2019 May

    Ping [email protected] 10.5
    Tee 16.5
    Tm V Steel @ 18
     
    Mizuno MP 63 DGR300 at D4

    Vokey SM5 50 08 F Old SM at 54 and SM6 58S 10

    Titleist Scotty Mid Slant Pro Platinum at 34 and a Half!

  • first teefirst tee Members Posts: 224 ✭✭
    Stay with Hogans! PTx are really nice clubs for a really nice price. And they will build to your specs.
  • LaymanMLaymanM Cincinnati, OHMembers Posts: 2,123 ✭✭
    Srixon z745 z765 z785 would be a natural choice
    PING G410 9* PX Evenflow Black 75 6.0
    PING G410 LST 3w PX Evenflow Black 85 6.0
    PING G410 5w PX Evenflow Black 85 6.0
    PING G410 4-PW AWT 2 0 stiff
    PING Stealth Glide 2.0 50ss/54ss/58ss
    PING Sigam G Tyne
  • JagpilotohioJagpilotohio 45+ inch drivers are evil. Columbus, OHMembers Posts: 7,224 ✭✭
    There is no choice here for a Hogan guy.



    You must at least try the PTx. They are essentially a modernized version of the Apex plus.



    I’ve been playing them 2 1/2 years. Great sticks. They have a 2 club demo program. $20 bucks for two weeks, postage included both ways.
    9.5* Cobra LTD, Old school Grafalloy Blue, 43.5"
    14* Cally 815 alpha fuji 665 X 42"
    16* Cally 815 alpha fuji 665 X, 41.5" (set to 17*)
    19* Titleist 816 H2 fuji 8.8X TS 40.0"
    4-7 2016 Hogan PTx, KBS Tour V, 120X.  
    Ping i210 8 & 9 Proto 125 F5 hardstepped 1x.
    Ping glide 2 46-12, 50-12, 54-14 (at 55) stealth, Vokey SM6 60M (61). Wedges Recoil Proto 125 F5
    33.5" Ghost spider slant neck.
    Srixon Z-star XV
    Jones Trouper Bag
  • Jeri6gtJeri6gt Friday Hacker Members Posts: 271
    Lightly used Apex Edge Pros ��
    All Titliest all the time

    915 D2 10.5 S blue board
    915F 16.5 S blue board
    910F 19 S Kali
    718 TMB 4 PXi 6.0
    714 AP2 5-9 PX 5.5
    SM6 46, 50 PX 6.0(8iron)
    SM5 54, 58 PX 6.5(8iron)
    Scotty Newport 2
    ProV1x
  • ZigzogZigzog Members Posts: 170 ✭✭
    Good timing, I had exactly the same clubs and just changed as they were totally worn out.



    Was a hard thing to do as I had used them for the past 7 years, but I tried pretty much everything out there - P790 and i500 I did not feel in control; not enough control or spin and just went too far.



    I did not need more distance, but wanted more help with off centre hits - recently got myself some P760; love them so far - they do go very high for me - so I can stop a 4 iron on a dime image/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />
    [font=trebuchet ms,helvetica,sans-serif]Taylormade M3 Driver 9.5 - Graphite Design AD Di - 6S
    Callaway Epic SZ 3 Wood - Graphite Design AD Di - 7S

    PXG - 19 - 0317 X Hybrid - Fujikura 72 S

    Wilson V6 - 4 - GW - DG - S300 AMT

    Callaway Mack Daddy 4 - 56 and 60

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  • LaymanMLaymanM Cincinnati, OHMembers Posts: 2,123 ✭✭
    I would just think about refinishing the apex plus. Endo forging does feel fantastic! I always loved my set.
    PING G410 9* PX Evenflow Black 75 6.0
    PING G410 LST 3w PX Evenflow Black 85 6.0
    PING G410 5w PX Evenflow Black 85 6.0
    PING G410 4-PW AWT 2 0 stiff
    PING Stealth Glide 2.0 50ss/54ss/58ss
    PING Sigam G Tyne
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