Srixon 585 4 iron vs Utility Options

JFM628JFM628 Members Posts: 99 ✭✭
I am about to place my order for a combo 585/785 set and was wondering what I should do with the 4 iron/22* slot in the bag.



I have not hit all the utilities out there but I have certainly read enough here about them. With this spot, its 215-220 yard spot in the bag and I am simply looking for forgiveness...don't need to work the ball...need to get it in the air and straight.



Am I picking anything up with the U85? Other utilities more forgiving? Crossover? Or is the difference minimal and I should just match the 585 4 iron.



Any thoughts would be helpful

Comments

  • morgan1819morgan1819 Official Member Members Posts: 961 ✭✭
    I can tell you that the U65 had a higher flight for me than the z565, which was nice for holding greens from the distances you are referencing. The 85 series might be different though, so you should probably try to hit them under the circumstances they will be used, if at all possible.

    Srixon Z 785 10.2 degrees. Accra TZ5 80
    Srixon Z 785 16.0 degrees. Accra TZ5 90
    Srixon Z U85 21.0 degrees. Accra TZ5 97
    Srixon Z Forged 4-PW. TI S400
    Cleveland RTX 4 raw 52, raw 58. TI S400
    Byron Morgan DH89

  • manima1manima1 Members Posts: 708 ✭✭
    If you are looking for forgiveness, no brainer go with a U45/U65/U85 in this spot.
    M5 9.0 - Kuro Kage Dual Core 80tx tipped 1"
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    zU45 18 degree - S400
    z745 4-9 - S400
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  • johnnyprojohnnypro Members Posts: 1,864 ✭✭
    I have 545 irons, 5 - PW but also play the Zu65 4 utility.

    GREAT club!
  • me05501me05501 Members Posts: 412
    I have Srixon i506 5-PW and I'm very happy with the U65 4/23 as my "four iron." It doesn't look all that much different from the 4i from my set, but there's a lot more weight down low and the top line is thicker. It really promotes confidence. The ball goes HIGH and straight.
  • JFM628JFM628 Members Posts: 99 ✭✭
    Thanks guys...each one of you confirmed my thoughts...I appreciate the responses.
  • jdcadkinjdcadkin Members Posts: 95 ✭✭
    In my experience U85 4 iron flies a touch higher than the 585. I'm loving my U85. Good forgiveness for the type of club and a monster off the tee.
    Ping G400 LST - Oban Revenge 5
    3w Ping G - Oban Revenge 6
    2h Ping G400 - Ping Tour 90
    4i Srixon U85 - Steelfiber FC90cw
    5-PW Srixon Z585 - Steelfiber FC90cw
    Ping Glide Stealth 2.0 50* SS & 56* ES
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  • beaneybeaney Members Posts: 227 ✭✭
    I have the z765 and went with the u65 in the 4 iron. I ordered mine with the same shaft as the irons.



    For me, the u65 works brilliantly and the distances blend perfectly.



    Good luck.
    Taylormade M2 2017
    Mizuno MX700 3W
    Titleist 909h 19*
    Srixon U65 23*
    Srixon Z765 5-PW
    Cleveland 588 RTXcb 50, 56, 60
    Scotty Cameron Futura 5.5m
  • tim583tim583 Members Posts: 334 ✭✭
    beaney wrote:


    I have the z765 and went with the u65 in the 4 iron. I ordered mine with the same shaft as the irons.



    For me, the u65 works brilliantly and the distances blend perfectly.



    Good luck.




    Do you guys hit this club off the deck? I understand it’s good off the tee and all.
  • beaneybeaney Members Posts: 227 ✭✭
    tim583 wrote:
    beaney wrote:


    I have the z765 and went with the u65 in the 4 iron. I ordered mine with the same shaft as the irons.



    For me, the u65 works brilliantly and the distances blend perfectly.



    Good luck.




    Do you guys hit this club off the deck? I understand it’s good off the tee and all.




    Absolutely. To be honest I mainly use it off the deck, going in to long par 4s. I just treat it exactly the same as the rest of the 765 set.
    Taylormade M2 2017
    Mizuno MX700 3W
    Titleist 909h 19*
    Srixon U65 23*
    Srixon Z765 5-PW
    Cleveland 588 RTXcb 50, 56, 60
    Scotty Cameron Futura 5.5m
  • CTJCTJ Members Posts: 121
    johnnypro wrote:


    I have 545 irons, 5 - PW but also play the Zu65 4 utility.

    GREAT club!




    Do the utility irons gap into the Z 545 set? I was noticing that with respect to the Z 585 and utilities, there are only 2 degrees difference between the 585 6 iron and the 5 iron in the utility iron. I know that the shafts are longer in the utility irons, but the potential gapping issues concerned me.
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    Titleist 818 H2, 21 (set to 20) and 23 (set to 24) degree Hybrids, Even Flow Blue, 6.0
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  • anthanth From the Land Down Under Members Posts: 2,773 ✭✭
    No gapping issues between my 23 degrees U45 and 25 degrees Z765 5 iron
    Callaway Rogue 10.5
    Callaway BB Alpha 816 16
    Srixon Z H45 19 Hybrid
    Srixon Z U45 23 Utility
    Srixon Z 765/965 5 - PW
    TaylorMade Milled Grind 50 & 54
    TaylorMade Milled Grind Hi Toe 58
    TaylorMade Spider Tour Red
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  • MrFlapjackMrFlapjack Members Posts: 2,597 ✭✭
    Wish the utilities had a vsole. Hit down on your irons...except for your utility irons, dont hit down on those.
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    Srixon Z545 5-AW (SF i110 stiff) (Testing Cleveland CBX 7-PW, and Nike Vapor Fly 4-6 irons)
    RTX 3.0 - 54 and 58 (SF i125 stiff) (Testing Cleveland CBX wedges 48, 52, 56 bent to 50, 54, 58)
    YES Milly - 100gm TLP. (Testing Ping Ketsch Mid)
  • Dreamer99Dreamer99 Members Posts: 89
    Do these Srixon utility irons perform out of the rough or is a hybrid a better option?
  • anthanth From the Land Down Under Members Posts: 2,773 ✭✭
    I carry both a 23 utility iron and a 19 degree hybrid. If the lie is not ideal I tend to favour the hybrid
    Callaway Rogue 10.5
    Callaway BB Alpha 816 16
    Srixon Z H45 19 Hybrid
    Srixon Z U45 23 Utility
    Srixon Z 765/965 5 - PW
    TaylorMade Milled Grind 50 & 54
    TaylorMade Milled Grind Hi Toe 58
    TaylorMade Spider Tour Red
    TaylorMade TP5
  • steetyjsteetyj Members Posts: 124
    Are you guys going with the stock graphite shaft? Or a steel shaft to match the rest of your irons?
    Ping G15 10.5* w/ UST Axivcore Tour Red Stiff
    TEE XCG7 4 Wood w/ Exotics Fuel Tour 70 Stiff
    Adams Super 9031 20* stiff
    Adams Super 9031 23* stiff
    Ping G5 5-UW w/ AWT stiff
    Vokey Spin Milled 54*
    Vokey Spin Milled 58*
    Ping Karsten TR Anser 2
  • anthanth From the Land Down Under Members Posts: 2,773 ✭✭
    I have graphite. It plays lighter than my irons but I don’t mind that. You get used to it
    Callaway Rogue 10.5
    Callaway BB Alpha 816 16
    Srixon Z H45 19 Hybrid
    Srixon Z U45 23 Utility
    Srixon Z 765/965 5 - PW
    TaylorMade Milled Grind 50 & 54
    TaylorMade Milled Grind Hi Toe 58
    TaylorMade Spider Tour Red
    TaylorMade TP5
  • beaneybeaney Members Posts: 227 ✭✭
    I went with the same shaft as the irons, simply because it helped the feeling and distances match.
    Taylormade M2 2017
    Mizuno MX700 3W
    Titleist 909h 19*
    Srixon U65 23*
    Srixon Z765 5-PW
    Cleveland 588 RTXcb 50, 56, 60
    Scotty Cameron Futura 5.5m
  • oneleftnutoneleftnut Members Posts: 2
    I’m in the same boat. I’m looking on doing 5-7 Z585 and 8-PW in Z785. I notice the U85 4 iron is 23 degrees and the Z585 5 iron is 24 degrees. Potential gaping issue there or will that U85 play the same as a Z585 4 iron which is 22 degrees? Just different flight?
  • Chuck905Chuck905 Members Posts: 1,144 ✭✭
    edited Nov 30, 2018 #20
    If you are a strong iron or aspiring player, go with the 5 iron set.



    Skip the 23* utility and go right to the 20*/3 U45/65/85. You can always bend it weak to 21* afterwards plus, it will look better with less offset and the 1* of bounce will help.



    I sold my 23* U45 because the 5 iron 565 was going just as far. Threw the 4 iron back in and custom ordered the 3 iron at the time and went to the 18* bent to 17* U45



    I also have no issues hitting the 18* of the fairway or rough.



    I am a strong iron game player.


    oneleftnut wrote:


    I’m in the same boat. I’m looking on doing 5-7 Z585 and 8-PW in Z785. I notice the U85 4 iron is 23 degrees and the Z585 5 iron is 24 degrees. Potential gaping issue there or will that U85 play the same as a Z585 4 iron which is 22 degrees? Just different flight?
    Epic SZ 10*, Tensei White 75
    Epic SZ Strong 3 Wood, 13.5*
    U45 17*, Recoil 110
    3-PW Mizuno MP18 Blades
    Mizuno T7s 54-8 SW and 58-12 LW
    Odyssey RX9
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