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Cruisin1966Cruisin1966 Calgary, AB 1023WRX Points: 264Handicap: WIPClubWRX Posts: 1,023 ClubWRX
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I just picked up some of the new Cobra MB's. I ordered them with the Modus3 105 stiff shafts. I've had some wrist and elbow issues this year, so rather than spending a whole bunch more on graphite shafts, I'd like to try some inserts. I was told that Golftown can't get any, so I'm looking for options (in Canada) for ordering some, Prosofts over Sensicore without getting bent over on cost.



Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Driver: TBD
Fairway: Taylormade M3 3HL w/ Diamana ZF 80TX
Hybrid: Srixon H85 w/ ProjectX Hzrdus Black 85S
Irons: Miura CB57 4-PW w/ Fujikura Pro 115s
Wedges: Artisan 51º, 56º, 61º
Putter: Artisan 0117

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  • p3gap3ga  647WRX Points: 87Handicap: 9Members Posts: 647 Golden Tee
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    Value Golf should be able to set you up: www.valuegolf.com/ Look under clubmaking supplies in the pull down menus.



    Recommend the installation tool, makes the job much easier.



    They made a nice difference for me; hope they help you as well.
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  • Big BenBig Ben  9301WRX Points: 483Handicap: 5Members Posts: 9,301 Titanium Tees
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    Just bought a set with the tool for my new Cobra CB’s as well. I hope they help they would be awesome!
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    Irons: 19' Cobra CB's
    Drivers: Titleist TS3 & Cobra F9
    Fairway: Titleist 917F2
    Hybrid: A-Grind
    2 iron: Ping Rapture
    Wedges: Ping Gorge 2.0 Stealth's
    Putter: Evnroll 9.1
    Balls: ProV1
  • p3gap3ga  647WRX Points: 87Handicap: 9Members Posts: 647 Golden Tee
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    Cruisin, in addition to the Pro Softs, look into the Theraband resistance trainer, there's a bunch of threads on the forum about it. Big help with tendon issues. Start with the light or medium band and work your way up (yes, leave the man card at the door).



    Use religiously for a few minutes each day to strengthen the muscles & increase flexibility.
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  • Cruisin1966Cruisin1966 Calgary, AB 1023WRX Points: 264Handicap: WIPClubWRX Posts: 1,023 ClubWRX
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    Thanks folks. I was looking at ValueGolf, it's just the shipping is ridiculous if you want it sooner than three weeks.



    I'll look into the Theraband resistance trainer as well.
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    Driver: TBD
    Fairway: Taylormade M3 3HL w/ Diamana ZF 80TX
    Hybrid: Srixon H85 w/ ProjectX Hzrdus Black 85S
    Irons: Miura CB57 4-PW w/ Fujikura Pro 115s
    Wedges: Artisan 51º, 56º, 61º
    Putter: Artisan 0117

  • dunndunn  6362WRX Points: 162Handicap: 5Members Posts: 6,362 Titanium Tees
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    Just get 5/8 backer rod at home depot, same stuff



    Get a roll of 50ft for like $5



    Cut em into strips....used both and its same
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  • Cruisin1966Cruisin1966 Calgary, AB 1023WRX Points: 264Handicap: WIPClubWRX Posts: 1,023 ClubWRX
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    dunn wrote:


    Just get 5/8 backer rod at home depot, same stuff



    Get a roll of 50ft for like $5



    Cut em into strips....used both and its same




    Interesting. Definitely worth a try if the local Home Depo has any
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    Driver: TBD
    Fairway: Taylormade M3 3HL w/ Diamana ZF 80TX
    Hybrid: Srixon H85 w/ ProjectX Hzrdus Black 85S
    Irons: Miura CB57 4-PW w/ Fujikura Pro 115s
    Wedges: Artisan 51º, 56º, 61º
    Putter: Artisan 0117

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  • dunndunn  6362WRX Points: 162Handicap: 5Members Posts: 6,362 Titanium Tees
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    It's used for concrete gaps and painting....all of ours carry it



    I use wd-40 to slide it down
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  • Cruisin1966Cruisin1966 Calgary, AB 1023WRX Points: 264Handicap: WIPClubWRX Posts: 1,023 ClubWRX
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    dunn wrote:


    It's used for concrete gaps and painting....all of ours carry it



    I use wd-40 to slide it down




    I haven't checked, but frequently items available in the US are not necessarily available Canada.
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    Driver: TBD
    Fairway: Taylormade M3 3HL w/ Diamana ZF 80TX
    Hybrid: Srixon H85 w/ ProjectX Hzrdus Black 85S
    Irons: Miura CB57 4-PW w/ Fujikura Pro 115s
    Wedges: Artisan 51º, 56º, 61º
    Putter: Artisan 0117

  • SAM_PGASAM_PGA PGA Professional Knoxville, TN 670WRX Points: 149Members Posts: 670 Golden Tee
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    That 5/8" backer rod looks almost identical to the ProSoft inserts. I use the inserts and its additional tool to curb tendonitis, as well as the TheraBand that I use religiously. Important that both inserts are closed cell foam which is more resistant to rusting out your shafts. It's my understanding that the Sensi-Core inserts were NOT closed cell and the trapped moisture in the foam had a tendency to rust the steel shaft out faster than normal oxidation.



    IMO get the box of backer rod from Amazon but buy the installation tool from Value Golf.
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    T200 #4-5 (1º Weak) & T100 #6-9 - AMT Tour White S300 HS1


    SM8 RAW Finish     46.10F   50.12F @ 51º   56.12D   60.08M @ 61º - AMT Tour White S400      

     
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  • gioguy21gioguy21 NJ 8091WRX Points: 1,343Handicap: +1.6 (1194646)Members Posts: 8,091 Titanium Tees
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    hey guys -- any idea what this does to swingweighting? how far does it go down the shaft you figure (obviously don't need exact measurements)?
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    Epic Flash SZ / 9* (set D/S) / Fujikura Pro 2.0 TS 6X tipped 1.50"
    Epic Flash SZ / 3+ (set -1/N) / HZRDUS Smoke Black 75g 6.5 tipped 2"
    Epic CF17 3i / Tensei PW Hybrid 100TX
    Apex MB Chrome / 3-PW / Modus 130 X
    MD4 Chrome / 52, 56, 60 / DG 115 S200 (for now)
    Piretti Tour 801R / 35.5"

  • Stuart_GStuart_G New Hampshire 24636WRX Points: 1,379Members Posts: 24,636 Titanium Tees
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    gioguy21 wrote:


    hey guys -- any idea what this does to swingweighting? how far does it go down the shaft you figure (obviously don't need exact measurements)?




    The prosofts have no real effect on swing weight.
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    Stuart G. wrote:

    gioguy21 wrote:


    hey guys -- any idea what this does to swingweighting? how far does it go down the shaft you figure (obviously don't need exact measurements)?




    The prosofts have no real effect on swing weight.
    thank you sir
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    Epic Flash SZ / 9* (set D/S) / Fujikura Pro 2.0 TS 6X tipped 1.50"
    Epic Flash SZ / 3+ (set -1/N) / HZRDUS Smoke Black 75g 6.5 tipped 2"
    Epic CF17 3i / Tensei PW Hybrid 100TX
    Apex MB Chrome / 3-PW / Modus 130 X
    MD4 Chrome / 52, 56, 60 / DG 115 S200 (for now)
    Piretti Tour 801R / 35.5"

  • SAM_PGASAM_PGA PGA Professional Knoxville, TN 670WRX Points: 149Members Posts: 670 Golden Tee
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    gioguy21 wrote:


    hey guys -- any idea what this does to swingweighting? how far does it go down the shaft you figure (obviously don't need exact measurements)?




    The inserts are about 7 or 8" in length and the tool inserts them so they're centered with the bottom hand more or less and have a net-zero effect on a SW scale. I'd be surprised if they register any weight on my gram scale too.
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    TS3 9.5º - UST LinQ Purple 6X     TS3 16.5º - UST LinQ Purple 7X     818 H2 21º - Recoil Proto Hybrid 85F5
    T200 #4-5 (1º Weak) & T100 #6-9 - AMT Tour White S300 HS1


    SM8 RAW Finish     46.10F   50.12F @ 51º   56.12D   60.08M @ 61º - AMT Tour White S400      

     
    Special Select Newport 2 - 34"


  • JagpilotohioJagpilotohio 45+ inch drivers are evil. Columbus, OH 7270WRX Points: 579Handicap: 1.8Members Posts: 7,270 Titanium Tees
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    gioguy21 wrote:


    hey guys -- any idea what this does to swingweighting? how far does it go down the shaft you figure (obviously don't need exact measurements)?




    Out of curiosity I just tried to weigh one on my electronic kitchen scale. As Sam said, It didn’t even register. The insert is 8.5 inches long. The tool is 1 foot long



    The tool leaves the top of the insert 3.5 inches from the end of the shaft. The bottom of the insert is 12 inches from the end of the shaft.



    What you are really paying for is the tool. The foam obviously costs almost nothing. I imagine if you are handy and creative you could make your own insert tool.



    I prefer sensicores for ease of insertion and removal, but they have been discontinued. I bought a couple packs when I found out.



    I imagine at some point true temper may market a new type of dampening product.
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    14* Cally 815 alpha fuji 665 X 42"
    16* Cally 815 alpha fuji 665 X, 41.5" (set to 17*)
    19* Titleist 816 H2 fuji 8.8X TS 40.0"
    4-7 2016 Hogan PTx, KBS Tour V, 120X.  
    Ping i210 8 & 9 Proto 125 F5 hardstepped 1x.
    Ping glide 2 46-12, 50-12, 54-14 (at 55) stealth, Vokey SM6 60M (61). Wedges Recoil Proto 125 F5
    33.5" Ghost spider slant neck.
    Srixon Z-star XV
    Jones Trouper Bag
  • CwebbCwebb  6028WRX Points: 328Members Posts: 6,028 Titanium Tees
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    sampga1976 wrote:

    gioguy21 wrote:


    hey guys -- any idea what this does to swingweighting? how far does it go down the shaft you figure (obviously don't need exact measurements)?




    The inserts are about 7 or 8" in length and the tool inserts them so they're centered with the bottom hand more or less and have a net-zero effect on a SW scale. I'd be surprised if they register any weight on my gram scale too.




    They weigh 1-1.5g, but they will not register on a gram scale if we just rest it on there. Place it inside something else...like a shaft, then weigh it on the scale
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  • dunndunn  6362WRX Points: 162Handicap: 5Members Posts: 6,362 Titanium Tees
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    I just use foam, WD 40 twist it down and use wooden dowel to gently slide it down farther....dont think it's all that critical....its dampening a vibration through hollow steel...



    Have used pro softs, sensicore and backer rod and its same to me.....the water and rust thing I am not to worried about...I made my inserts a lil shorter than pro soft



    There is nothing special about pro soft foam.....



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  • Payton1020Payton1020 Cincinnati, Ohio 2073WRX Points: 175Handicap: 12.5Members Posts: 2,073 Platinum Tees
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    Backer rod and PSI are not the same stuff. Just saying.
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    ADAMS Super S 15* & 18* Matrix HD Radix SVI
    WILSON STAFF 20° Fybrid RS UST Mamiya VTS
    GOLFSMITH P2 4-PW, GW, SW, LW True Temper Formula 1 stepless


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  • gioguy21gioguy21 NJ 8091WRX Points: 1,343Handicap: +1.6 (1194646)Members Posts: 8,091 Titanium Tees
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    Payton1020 wrote:


    Backer rod and PSI are not the same stuff. Just saying.
    please, as a 12 cap, please discern for us the difference in feel from one over the other --



    no one said the same. they said they're DA*N close -- and honestly, if you can't tell a difference, who cares?
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    Epic Flash SZ / 9* (set D/S) / Fujikura Pro 2.0 TS 6X tipped 1.50"
    Epic Flash SZ / 3+ (set -1/N) / HZRDUS Smoke Black 75g 6.5 tipped 2"
    Epic CF17 3i / Tensei PW Hybrid 100TX
    Apex MB Chrome / 3-PW / Modus 130 X
    MD4 Chrome / 52, 56, 60 / DG 115 S200 (for now)
    Piretti Tour 801R / 35.5"

  • jj9000jj9000  2725WRX Points: 447ClubWRX Posts: 2,725 ClubWRX
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    You guys are thinking way too much.



    Get foam.



    Jam foam down shaft from butt-end. ****, a clothes hanger will work to install.



    Put on grip.



    Play golf.
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  • NessismNessism To measure is to know...  19311WRX Points: 1,411Members Posts: 19,311 Titanium Tees
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    The tool helps speed up assembly because it helps make sure the insertion depth is consistent from shaft to shaft and it keeps the foam from bunching up. Well worth the money in my opinion.
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  • Albatross85Albatross85 Tiger is the GOAT St. Louis, MO 2958WRX Points: 216Handicap: +2.1Members Posts: 2,958 Titanium Tees
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    Nessism wrote:


    The tool helps speed up assembly because it helps make sure the insertion depth is consistent from shaft to shaft and it keeps the foam from bunching up. Well worth the money in my opinion.
    Agreed. I think i gave $20 for the tool several years back. I've used it on 4-5 iron sets and countless wedges. Well worth the money. The inserts are dirt cheap
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    • Titleist TS2 13.5* - Tensei Pro White 70TX
    • Ping G410 19* H - GD AD IZ 95X
    • Adams Idea Pro Tour Prototype 23* - Aldila Proto By You 80X
    • Adams CMB/MB2 5-p - PX LZ 6.5 
    • Wilson FG Tour V4 50* - PX LZ 6.5 
    • Mizuno T7 55.09  - PX LZ 6.5 35.5"
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    • Odyssey Stroke Lab Black Bird of Prey
    • Bridgestone Tour B XS


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  • Cruisin1966Cruisin1966 Calgary, AB 1023WRX Points: 264Handicap: WIPClubWRX Posts: 1,023 ClubWRX
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    Inserts acquired (with tool) and dropped off with grips and irons for install. I'll let you know how I think they feel once I've hit them
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    Driver: TBD
    Fairway: Taylormade M3 3HL w/ Diamana ZF 80TX
    Hybrid: Srixon H85 w/ ProjectX Hzrdus Black 85S
    Irons: Miura CB57 4-PW w/ Fujikura Pro 115s
    Wedges: Artisan 51º, 56º, 61º
    Putter: Artisan 0117

  • dunndunn  6362WRX Points: 162Handicap: 5Members Posts: 6,362 Titanium Tees
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    jj9000 wrote:


    You guys are thinking way too much.



    Get foam.



    Jam foam down shaft from butt-end. ****, a clothes hanger will work to install.



    Put on grip.



    Play golf.
    exactly....
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  • 5hort5tuff5hort5tuff  3471WRX Points: 204Members Posts: 3,471 Titanium Tees
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    I just bought some backer rod. I'll try it out this winter. I have used sensicore inserts for the last bunch of years. Thwy are much more expensive and harder to find. They also rust put the shafts pretty good...



    I plan to just jam them in to a consistent depth. No tool.



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    PING G25 w. Tensei Blue
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  • cristphotocristphoto  3646WRX Points: 279Members Posts: 3,646 Titanium Tees
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    I would suggest getting the tool since the way it works is to pull the foam down the shaft. Using a dowel as a ramrod will cause the foam to bind up. I don’t know how critical this is for the damping effect but why scrimp on a fairly cheap tool? Years ago I had Ping irons with the Cushin insert and the Cushin seemed to be at about the same depth as the Prosofts after being installed with the special tool. Thus there may be research showing best insertion depth to maximize damping. I bought my first order of prosofts and the tool maybe 8-10 years ago. The tool will last a lifetime unless you loose it. As to the inserts themselves they are cheap enough from the supplier that my guess is they are an off-the-shelf product like the backer rod that’s often mentioned.
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  • dunndunn  6362WRX Points: 162Handicap: 5Members Posts: 6,362 Titanium Tees
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    That's what wd 40 is for and slight twisting motion.....I've done it so many times they don't bind up (I can feel it if it starts too).......but maybe a first timer would have problems.......you can prolly make a tool pretty easily tho.......I had a hard time with the tool so tool (would tear foam) why I do it way I do
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    gioguy21 wrote:

    Payton1020 wrote:


    Backer rod and PSI are not the same stuff. Just saying.
    please, as a 12 cap, please discern for us the difference in feel from one over the other --



    no one said the same. they said they're DA*N close -- and honestly, if you can't tell a difference, who cares?




    Try inserting BR down a shaft and get back to me. Not being a dick, I found out for myself. PSI is porous, BR is not.
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    ADAMS Super S 15* & 18* Matrix HD Radix SVI
    WILSON STAFF 20° Fybrid RS UST Mamiya VTS
    GOLFSMITH P2 4-PW, GW, SW, LW True Temper Formula 1 stepless


    ODYSSEY Tri-Ball SRT

    OGIO Grom 14 way stand bag
  • Big BenBig Ben  9301WRX Points: 483Handicap: 5Members Posts: 9,301 Titanium Tees
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    I inserted mine today using the tool. It takes one or two to dial in the technique but I can see right away this is this the way to go. I personally wouldn’t bother with the home brew for the cost of this small project. I have however wondered if the spray insulation stuff wouldn’t be kinda epic filling a small length down the shaft. It would take some thinking but darn it would be a very thorough fill. I have no idea how dense and heavy it might be however. I guess I could weigh a little pile.
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    Irons: 19' Cobra CB's
    Drivers: Titleist TS3 & Cobra F9
    Fairway: Titleist 917F2
    Hybrid: A-Grind
    2 iron: Ping Rapture
    Wedges: Ping Gorge 2.0 Stealth's
    Putter: Evnroll 9.1
    Balls: ProV1
  • 4rheel4rheel OC, California 2172WRX Points: 328Members Posts: 2,172 Platinum Tees
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    What shafts were you using before OP? The Modus 105 are much easier on the joints then x100. I went from x100 to the Fuji Pro95 TS x-flex and recently went to the Modus 105x since I missed steel. So far no issues and will play the 105x until I develop wrist and tennis elbow issues. Planning on prosoft (or the 5/8 backer rod) on my next grip change.
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  • Cruisin1966Cruisin1966 Calgary, AB 1023WRX Points: 264Handicap: WIPClubWRX Posts: 1,023 ClubWRX
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    I played the KBS c-taper 120S before. I'm getting older and later in the round I know I'm getting tired. I have some graphite shafts, but I'm not sold on the feel. So, I was looking for the dampening effect of the prosofts as well as adding the lighter weight. And, well, I like to try different things.
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    Driver: TBD
    Fairway: Taylormade M3 3HL w/ Diamana ZF 80TX
    Hybrid: Srixon H85 w/ ProjectX Hzrdus Black 85S
    Irons: Miura CB57 4-PW w/ Fujikura Pro 115s
    Wedges: Artisan 51º, 56º, 61º
    Putter: Artisan 0117

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