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It's coming out that Rory McIlroy, at this stage, only has two European Tour events on his schedule for next year. Surprisingly, they are events that he has not had much to do with over the last few years - The Scottish Open and the European Masters in Switzerland which is sponsored by Omega just like Rory.

 

The first thing that I take from that is that the Irish Open and Rory seem to be over for now. Given how much effort he seemed to put into it over the last few years, I can see why he would want to take a step back and concentrate on golf but giving up on playing it completely is an unusual one.

 

The second thing is surely, he won't get to a point where he has to give up his ET card. With the US season finished by August next year, how he could even envisage not managing another two events during September, October and November is beyond me.

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^^ When I saw the new schedule plus the fact he isn't hosting the Irish anymore I suspected he might ditch it to play the week before the Open instead.

 

I too am very surprised that Rory is seriously thinking about letting his ET membership lapse, the minimum commitment is so low given he is a cert for all majors and WGCs. I totally understand him doing whatever it takes to win majors but your point about him potentially not being able to find it in his schedule for 2 events, especially given how early the PGA Tour season finishes for the top guys, really surprises me. In fairness he does concede it's a little up in the air at the moment.

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I'm sure that schedule will fill up as the offseason goes along.

 

But part of me wonders - just a tiny bit - if he looks at what Tiger has gone through and says nah, thats not for me. I've made $150M (my guess - ~ $80M in career earnings and about that off?) in my career on and off the course, I'm 29, I'm happy with the way things are. Am I going to kill myself flying all over the world just to retain my Euro Tour card?

 

Not saying he's going to walk away from golf altogether. But if I made a list of young guys that I would say would be happy with what they've accomplished/made and might start focussing on life off the course? He'd at least be on the list.

 

Could be completely wrong though.

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He only has to play in 4 tournaments outside of the majors and WGC's, he'll play what he needs to

 

From the quotes it doesn't sound like he intends to do that though. Only 2 events scheduled in and no indication that he will add any, in fairness he does concede its a little up in the air at the moment.

 

He might regret it in later life if he disqualifies himself from being an Ryder Cup captain.

 

Time will tell.

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He only has to play in 4 tournaments outside of the majors and WGC's, he'll play what he needs to

 

From the quotes it doesn't sound like he intends to do that though. Only 2 events scheduled in and no indication that he will add any, in fairness he does concede its a little up in the air at the moment.

 

He might regret it in later life if he disqualifies himself from being an Ryder Cup captain.

 

Time will tell.

 

He will get in to the DP world's at the end of the season, so he only needs to add one more

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Guy seems lost imho. Pitty.

 

 

Why, because he's not obsessed and giving 110%, 365/24/7? I think Rory knows there is more to life.

Seems to me he is making choices based on the lifestyle he wants to live.

That's a guy who is anything but lost.

 

 

If anyone is lost, it's Jordan S.

 

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think it's disgusting that European players only join on ryder cup years, support your tour, should bring a rule in that unless a rookie, have to have been a member of that tour since the last ryder cup

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Guy seems lost imho. Pitty.

 

 

Why, because he's not obsessed and giving 110%, 365/24/7? I think Rory knows there is more to life.

Seems to me he is making choices based on the lifestyle he wants to live.

That's a guy who is anything but lost.

 

 

If anyone is lost, it's Jordan S.

 

Of course not, between giving 110%, 365/24/7 and playing like Rory right now there are a lot of options ;)

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Maybe Rory Jr. is on the way!

 

Also,

 

“I guess my thing is that I want to play against the strongest fields week-in and week-out and for the most part of the season that is in America. If I want to continue to contend in the majors and to continue my journey back towards the top of the game, then that’s what I want to do.

 

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I'm sure that schedule will fill up as the offseason goes along.

 

But part of me wonders - just a tiny bit - if he looks at what Tiger has gone through and says nah, thats not for me. I've made $150M (my guess - ~ $80M in career earnings and about that off?) in my career on and off the course, I'm 29, I'm happy with the way things are. Am I going to kill myself flying all over the world just to retain my Euro Tour card?

 

Not saying he's going to walk away from golf altogether. But if I made a list of young guys that I would say would be happy with what they've accomplished/made and might start focussing on life off the course? He'd at least be on the list.

 

Could be completely wrong though.

 

Agree 100% with all of this. From reading the interview it sounded like he might add a few more tournaments later in the year beyond the two he's already committed to. Whether or not that's enough to keep his Euro Tour membership didn't sound like it would affect his decision process one way or the other.

 

As to the second part, he's been clear in interviews that he doesn't have being the greatest of all time as his goal, and he's mentioned Tiger's life under the microscope specifically in that context. I have heard him say that his goal is to retire as the greatest European golfer. If you look at the careers of Faldo and Seve I'd say that age 29 Rory is more than half way there. That's pretty freaking good for a 29 year old who seems to be very happy with his work/life balance.

 

Rory will be fine. Last year he broke a rib, got married, and changed equipment companies twice. That's an awful lot going on, and he was still pretty good (#7 in OWGR, #6 for the year in total SG on the PGA Tour). It wouldn't surprise me to see him have a big 2019.

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think it's disgusting that European players only join on ryder cup years, support your tour, should bring a rule in that unless a rookie, have to have been a member of that tour since the last ryder cup

Given your location that's a perfectly understandable position. I love the Euro PGA Tour. The thing I like best about it is that it's a true world Tour. And I think in some player's minds that's the worst thing about it. The travel can be brutal to play a full season on that Tour. The Rolex series has great purses but on average purse size on the PGA Tour is better and the vast majority of the PGA Tour schedule can fit within 3 time zones. For the higher ranked Euro players from where I'm at its totally understandable why they would make that decision.

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I'm sure that schedule will fill up as the offseason goes along.

 

But part of me wonders - just a tiny bit - if he looks at what Tiger has gone through and says nah, thats not for me. I've made $150M (my guess - ~ $80M in career earnings and about that off?) in my career on and off the course, I'm 29, I'm happy with the way things are. Am I going to kill myself flying all over the world just to retain my Euro Tour card?

 

Not saying he's going to walk away from golf altogether. But if I made a list of young guys that I would say would be happy with what they've accomplished/made and might start focussing on life off the course? He'd at least be on the list.

 

Could be completely wrong though.

 

I'm willing to wager he's made a lot more than that off the course

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If Rory is serious about his golf game and contending in major championships again, he needs to take the route DJ did. From where his tee shots end, he has to be one of the worst players I've ever seen. Also, since Billy Foster has split with Westwood, Rory should hire him. I believe an experienced caddie can make a huge difference.

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The bottom line is there is a TONNE of money in sports these days. A modern luxury that didn't exist not that long ago

 

So more and more players are adopting the "why kill yourself flying and traveling around constantly when you don't need to?" mentality

 

I get it. Travel blows with a young family, new marriage etc

 

If I am Rory I am focused on getting to 10 majors and getting a win at ANGC for the career grand slam. All else on the side is gravy

 

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If Rory is serious about his golf game and contending in major championships again, he needs to take the route DJ did. From where his tee shots end, he has to be one of the worst players I've ever seen. Also, since Billy Foster has split with Westwood, Rory should hire him. I believe an experienced caddie can make a huge difference.

 

Totally agree with the Billy Foster statement (even though you do have that badge as your avatar)

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Storm in a tea cup. Per usual Rory is going to get pilloried for speaking his mind and musing on this or that based on some journo question; this time it just happens to be his sched.

 

Basically he has said 2019 is planned through August and in that time he may only play in a couple European events, as he wants to spend more time matching up with the big boys at the big PGA tour events.

 

That is all. Seriously.

The Euro tour has seriously back-loaded its 2019 schedule with loads of National opens from mid Aug to mid Oct, plus a few other bigger events. He can easily meet the requirement then.

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If Rory is serious about his golf game and contending in major championships again, he needs to take the route DJ did. From where his tee shots end, he has to be one of the worst players I've ever seen. Also, since Billy Foster has split with Westwood, Rory should hire him. I believe an experienced caddie can make a huge difference.

 

Totally agree with the Billy Foster statement (even though you do have that badge as your avatar)

 

Ultimately, it comes down to the player, his commitment and execution but having one of the best caddies out there can only help. Also, Rory is his generations Colin"Rabbit Ears"Montgomery! You can see him getting visibly annoyed with spectator-jabs all too easy.

 

On a side note, been a supporter of Utd. before Sir Alex and Big Ron. It pains me to see what's happening now.

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If I am Rory I am focused on getting to 10 majors and getting a win at ANGC for the career grand slam. All else on the side is gravy

 

Dear RORS. Go work with Crenshaw and become a die speed putter. Go work with a new wedge expert so your iron game from inside 150 matches your driver prowess

 

That is what he should be focusing on and, with his talent, that is what he should be achieving. At his best, he is that good. As thing stand though, he is not going to do it. Quoting himself from 2013, he seems to be "brain dead" at the moment. At the end of last year, he talked about taking stock of his first 10 years on tour and preparing for the next 10 years of his career. The first year of that decade has been a B minus according to him, that is generous. One win coming from way back when no pressure was on should have been a launchpad for a great year, instead what we got was him at best getting in his own way or at worst implosions any time he got near the lead.

 

He was in winning positions in Abu Dhabi, Dubai, Augusta, Wentworth and even had a decent chance at Carnoustie. A player of his talent should not be letting that many chances go begging.

 

If the reduction of his European schedule results in his golf improving, I am all for it. That said most of his good finishes this year where on the European Tour, without them I wonder what his current ranking would look like.

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If Rory is serious about his golf game and contending in major championships again, he needs to take the route DJ did. From where his tee shots end, he has to be one of the worst players I've ever seen. Also, since Billy Foster has split with Westwood, Rory should hire him. I believe an experienced caddie can make a huge difference.

 

Totally agree with the Billy Foster statement (even though you do have that badge as your avatar)

 

Ultimately, it comes down to the player, his commitment and execution but having one of the best caddies out there can only help. Also, Rory is his generations Colin"Rabbit Ears"Montgomery! You can see him getting visibly annoyed with spectator-jabs all too easy.

 

On a side note, been a supporter of Utd. before Sir Alex and Big Ron. It pains me to see what's happening now.

 

Really? Examples?

I've seen him get annoyed at slow play, but putting him on the same level as Monty for spectator interaction? That's a new one.

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If Rory is serious about his golf game and contending in major championships again, he needs to take the route DJ did. From where his tee shots end, he has to be one of the worst players I've ever seen. Also, since Billy Foster has split with Westwood, Rory should hire him. I believe an experienced caddie can make a huge difference.

 

Totally agree with the Billy Foster statement (even though you do have that badge as your avatar)

 

Ultimately, it comes down to the player, his commitment and execution but having one of the best caddies out there can only help. Also, Rory is his generations Colin"Rabbit Ears"Montgomery! You can see him getting visibly annoyed with spectator-jabs all too easy.

 

On a side note, been a supporter of Utd. before Sir Alex and Big Ron. It pains me to see what's happening now.

 

Well you are from Oregon so your still closer to Manchester than most of their other supporters :taunt:

 

People keep saying get rid of moaninho, i say keep him!! :D

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And I think in some player's minds that's the worst thing about it.

 

Agreed. These guys now seem to all live/train/play in the US a large % of their year. I understand that some of them feel an obligation to support the ET. And I respect that. But I'm also OK if they dont want to go through all that travel - especially the ones with young families. And dont give me the "boo hoo, these guys all fly private anyway" nonsense. The travel sucks and is brutal on your body, I dont care how you are flying. Its miserable.

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Who? The guy looks like he is in a constant state of constipation.

 

He hates golf!

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The bottom line is there is a TONNE of money in sports these days. A modern luxury that didn't exist not that long ago

 

So more and more players are adopting the "why kill yourself flying and traveling around constantly when you don't need to?" mentality

 

I get it. Travel blows with a young family, new marriage etc

 

If I am Rory I am focused on getting to 10 majors and getting a win at ANGC for the career grand slam. All else on the side is gravy

 

Dear RORS. Go work with Crenshaw and become a die speed putter. Go work with a new wedge expert so your iron game from inside 150 matches your driver prowess

 

 

 

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      Bettinardi Waste Management putter covers - 2024 Waste Management Phoenix Open
       
       
       
       
       
       

       
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    • 2024 AT&T Pebble Beach Pro-Am - Discussion and Links to Photos
      Please put and questions or comments here
       
       
       
       
       
      General Albums
       
      2024 AT&T Pebble Beach Pro-Am - Tuesday #1
       
       
       
       
       
       
      WITB Albums
       
      Justin Thomas - WITB - 2024 AT&T Pebble Beach Pro-Am
      Nick Hardy - WITB - 2024 AT&T Pebble Beach Pro-Am
      Seamus Power - WITB - 2024 AT&T Pebble Beach Pro-Am
      Adam Hadwin - WITB - 2024 AT&T Pebble Beach Pro-Am
      Kurt Kitayama - WITB - 2024 AT&T Pebble Beach Pro-Am
      Byeong Hun An - WITB - 2024 AT&T Pebble Beach Pro-Am
      Nicolai Hojgaard - WITB - 2024 AT&T Pebble Beach Pro-Am
      Sam Burns - WITB - 2024 AT&T Pebble Beach Pro-Am
      Brandon Wu - WITB - 2024 AT&T Pebble Beach Pro-Am
      JT Poston - WITB - 2024 AT&T Pebble Beach Pro-Am
      Nick Dunlap - WITB - 2024 AT&T Pebble Beach Pro-Am
      Alex Smalley - WITB - 2024 AT&T Pebble Beach Pro-Am
      Pau Gasol WITB (2x NBA Champion, 6x All-Star) – 2024 AT&T Pebble Beach Pro-Am
      Josh Allen WITB (NFL Quarterback, Buffalo Bills) – 2024 AT&T Pebble Beach Pro-Am
      Matt Kuchar - WITB - 2024 AT&T Pebble Beach Pro-Am
      JJ Spaun - WITB - 2024 AT&T Pebble Beach Pro-Am
      Jordan Spieth - WITB - 2024 AT&T Pebble Beach Pro-Am
      Adam Svensson - WITB - 2024 AT&T Pebble Beach Pro-Am
      Adam Scott (mini) - WITB - 2024 AT&T Pebble Beach Pro-Am
      Taylor Moore - WITB - 2024 AT&T Pebble Beach Pro-Am
       
       
       
       
      Pullout Albums
       
      Ping putters - 2024 AT&T Pebble Beach Pro-Am
      TaylorMade putters - 2024 AT&T Pebble Beach Pro-Am
      Pebble Beach Golf Links (holes 7 & 8) – 2024 AT&T Pebble Beach Pro-Am
      Odyssey putters - 2024 AT&T Pebble Beach Pro-Am
      Lucas Glover going to test black Srixon ZX5 & ZX7 irons - 2024 AT&T Pebble Beach Pro-Am
      Justin Thomas wrist training aid - 2024 AT&T Pebble Beach Pro-Am
      Stephen Sweeney's Putting Ballistic putting training aid - 2024 AT&T Pebble Beach Pro-Am
      Chris Kirk club changes - 2024 AT&T Pebble Beach Pro-Am
       
       
       
       
       
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