Piretti vs Toulon?

Totalee74Totalee74 Members Posts: 64
I have a toulon Columbus that is buttery soft, I purchased my first piretti, firenze, find it terribly firm and hate the feel, my question is Would be piretti blades be firm or more like the toulon ?

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  • pierso2pierso2 Shooters Shoot Members Posts: 2,605 ✭✭
    From my experience, piretti is just a firmer feel overall. I owned a CWII and a Bosa. I own a Toulon Madison, Indy, and Atlanta and they're all much softer feeling than the piretti putters I owned (hence why I sold them). Nothing wrong with Piretti but just felt very harsh and the higher pitched "ting" didn't feel right to me.
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  • Totalee74Totalee74 Members Posts: 64
    Thanks, that's the info I'm looking for, love the craftsmanship of the piretti, but can't get past the ting/feel
  • payerasjlpayerasjl Members Posts: 724 ✭✭
    the Toulon sound on my Portland is hands down the nicest i have had. And like all of us, ive ho´d many flatsticks.
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  • MedsonMedson Members Posts: 2,310 ✭✭
    Maybe Toulon milled their face more aggressively? I mean it’s the same metal after all.
  • Downtown_Brown_41Downtown_Brown_41 Members Posts: 557 ✭✭
    The Piretti is a firmer feel so it depends on the ball you use and personal preference. I play on really quick greens and love the firmer feel, too soft messes with my distance control
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  • Totalee74Totalee74 Members Posts: 64
    Would the blade pirettis feel any softer than the mallet? The firenze I have is almost unbearable feel wise
  • 5hort5tuff5hort5tuff Members Posts: 3,287 ✭✭
    edited Nov 23, 2018 #8
    I owned 2 CW2s. I never liked the feel of either of them. I also owned a centre shafted Teramo and thought it felt softer overall. Neither were for me.
    Post edited by Unknown User on
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  • KRW59KRW59 Hoarder Members Posts: 829 ✭✭
    Anyone saying the Piretti putters feel bad , are not making center contact.



    Either you are making contact on the upswing , low on the face...or...high on

    the face by using a forward press / delofting the 2* face to negative loft.



    I own numerous CW II , Potenza, Capri , and several mid mallet designs.

    Carbon , 303 stainless , solid copper , and GSS. They all have a solid

    soft feel. Depth of face milling has more influence on feel than design ,

    or material they are made of . Some of my deep milled are almost too soft.

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  • Golfer4LifeGolfer4Life Bob Parsons Bodyguard, Chump! ClubWRX Posts: 2,152
    edited Nov 22, 2018 #10
    Feel is subjective partner. Nobody is saying Piretti feels bad, just different.
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  • 5hort5tuff5hort5tuff Members Posts: 3,287 ✭✭
    edited Nov 23, 2018 #11
    KRW59 wrote:


    Anyone saying the Piretti putters feel bad , are not making center contact.



    Either you are making contact on the upswing , low on the face...or...high on

    the face by using a forward press / delofting the 2* face to negative loft.



    I own numerous CW II , Potenza, Capri , and several mid mallet designs.

    Carbon , 303 stainless , solid copper , and GSS. They all have a solid

    soft feel. Depth of face milling has more influence on feel than design ,

    or material they are made of . Some of my deep milled are almost too soft.




    Thank you for your valued opinion. You seem to be some sort of Piretti advocate around here. Maybe a bit biased. It's entirely possible that what i feel is "not great" is the feel you desire.



    Mine opinion is also valued.



    The CW2 didn't feel good to me. I'm not the first or last person to say that.
    Post edited by Unknown User on
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    WISHON 919 w. Hzrdus Red
    TAYLORMADE Issue Aeroburner w. Tensei Blue
    PING G25 w. Tensei Blue
    PING I200 w. AWT 2.0
    PING Glide 2.0 Stealth
    MannKrafted Carbon WB Rattler
    Xenon Copper Wide X
    SGC 902
  • payerasjlpayerasjl Members Posts: 724 ✭✭
    KRW59 wrote:


    Anyone saying the Piretti putters feel bad , are not making center contact.



    Either you are making contact on the upswing , low on the face...or...high on

    the face by using a forward press / delofting the 2* face to negative loft.



    I own numerous CW II , Potenza, Capri , and several mid mallet designs.

    Carbon , 303 stainless , solid copper , and GSS. They all have a solid

    soft feel. Depth of face milling has more influence on feel than design ,

    or material they are made of . Some of my deep milled are almost too soft.




    thats just wrong. feel is subjective and if the "bad" or "not as nice as X" feel was due to bad contact then that same bad contact would show up on whatever other putter you tried.
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  • 20six20six Members Posts: 560 ✭✭
    I love the feel of the CWII -- and the performance is even better.
  • cardoustiecardoustie haha, we don't play for 5's Members Posts: 11,652 ✭✭
    My matera is ultra melty buttery
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  • Totalee74Totalee74 Members Posts: 64
    Does the matera still have the ping sound?
  • McGolfMcGolf Members Posts: 74 ✭✭
    The Piretti blade IMO will feel more firm where the larger models will feel and sound softer.
  • ZachSvecZachSvec ClubWRX Posts: 109 ClubWRX
    Looking into the elite matera after seeing Tony Finau use his for a while and really like the look of it. Wondering if anyone has/had one and can give me any opinions on it what you like or didnt etc would be my first piretti after playing scotty pretty exclusivley for a while
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  • Wizzo1Wizzo1 Members Posts: 92 ✭✭
    edited Dec 3, 2018 #18
    KRW59 wrote:


    Anyone saying the Piretti putters feel bad , are not making center contact.



    Either you are making contact on the upswing , low on the face...or...high on

    the face by using a forward press / delofting the 2* face to negative loft.



    I own numerous CW II , Potenza, Capri , and several mid mallet designs.

    Carbon , 303 stainless , solid copper , and GSS. They all have a solid

    soft feel. Depth of face milling has more influence on feel than design ,

    or material they are made of . Some of my deep milled are almost too soft.
    KRW59,I like all the negative comments. To me it means these unhappy Piretti owners will buy high and sell low! I have 7 Pirettis (2 Cortino 2's,2 Cottonwood II's,2 Potenza 2's and a Cortino LN) I love the sound and feel of all of them.Always looking for more!
  • cmrl1986cmrl1986 Members Posts: 2,354
    edited Dec 3, 2018 #19
    My stainless 801r is extremely soft. It has the deep face milling and it's almost too soft for my liking..almost...lol. The ball comes off the blade soft and responsive. You won't find a better putter for the price 2nd hand. I say that because I wouldn't pay the $1500 price tag for my 801r new, but they can be had for half, sometimes even a third of that price on the bst or eBay.
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  • KRW59KRW59 Hoarder Members Posts: 829 ✭✭
    edited Dec 3, 2018 #20
    A few from my collection.....

    Post edited by Unknown User on
    Cobra King F9 10.5* / Fuji Speeder Evo IV  569-SR
    TEE EX10 Beta 16.5* / Fuji Platinum Speeder 5-SR
    TEE EX10 19* / Fuji Platinum Speeder 6-S
    TEE EX9 22* / Attas 4U 7-S.
    TEE EX9 25* / Attas 4U 7-X
    I have added about 10 grams of weight to all the fwy / hybrid
    shafts , using Sensicore inserts wrapped with lead tape.

    Cobra Forged Tec Black / 28* 6 iron thru 49.5* GW / 4.5* gapping
    Recoil 780 Es Smac wrap F3 / GW shaft internally weighted to 95 grams

    King Black Wedges / 54* versatile/ Recoil 95 F3 shaft weighted to 110 grams
    58* versatile / Recoil 110 F4 shaft weighted to 125 grams ( heat shrink tube )

    Piretti Savona 2 Elite《Murdered》or 1/1 GSS High Toe Potenza II

    Flask - Crown Black
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