Wedges

boycer11boycer11 ClubWRX Posts: 3,490 ClubWRX
Which would you buy and why? Compare feel and forgiveness?



Kyoei kk

Miura tour wedge

Vega raw

Vokey forged



Anything else?

Ping G400 max tensei orange pro
Callaway epic flash sz 3 wood
Ping g400 5 wd rogue black 7s
ping g410 tensei hybrid
Epon 705 5-aw limited black kbs flt matte black/Callaway Apex 2019 combo
miura limited black tour 2018 54/58
taylormade jdm itsy bitsy spider
ping hoofer
tp5x
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  • Swisstrader98Swisstrader98 Members Posts: 3,538 ✭✭
    I would say Epon but as much as I love their irons, couldn’t get along w their wedges.
  • boycer11boycer11 ClubWRX Posts: 3,490 ClubWRX
    edited Nov 25, 2018 #3


    I would say Epon but as much as I love their irons, couldn’t get along w their wedges.




    Haha, I also had some epon tours and I didn't get along with them.
    Ping G400 max tensei orange pro
    Callaway epic flash sz 3 wood
    Ping g400 5 wd rogue black 7s
    ping g410 tensei hybrid
    Epon 705 5-aw limited black kbs flt matte black/Callaway Apex 2019 combo
    miura limited black tour 2018 54/58
    taylormade jdm itsy bitsy spider
    ping hoofer
    tp5x
  • Kingcat990Kingcat990 European Tailored Golf Socks Members Posts: 3,847 ✭✭
    Vega and Kyoei and the same thing. As well as Yururi.



    So which is it? Fell or forgiveness?
    Wyoming Cowboys
  • boycer11boycer11 ClubWRX Posts: 3,490 ClubWRX
    edited Nov 25, 2018 #5
    Kingcat990 wrote:


    Vega and Kyoei and the same thing. As well as Yururi.



    So which is it? Fell or forgiveness?




    Why not both feel and forgiveness? Why settle. Really a wedge doesnt need to be that forgiving.
    Ping G400 max tensei orange pro
    Callaway epic flash sz 3 wood
    Ping g400 5 wd rogue black 7s
    ping g410 tensei hybrid
    Epon 705 5-aw limited black kbs flt matte black/Callaway Apex 2019 combo
    miura limited black tour 2018 54/58
    taylormade jdm itsy bitsy spider
    ping hoofer
    tp5x
  • 8iron1758iron175 Members Posts: 96
    Miura tour wedge...incredible wedge
  • Kingcat990Kingcat990 European Tailored Golf Socks Members Posts: 3,847 ✭✭
    boycer11 wrote:

    Kingcat990 wrote:


    Vega and Kyoei and the same thing. As well as Yururi.



    So which is it? Fell or forgiveness?




    Why not both feel and forgiveness? Why settle. Really a wedge doesnt need to be that forgiving.




    Very true. Of what you have listed, the Kyoei KK's looks pretty awesome. I think with your choices, the forgiveness is a wash. They're all blade style wedges, so it really comes down to your preference of bounce and loft combos to best suit your courses and swing characteristics
    Wyoming Cowboys
  • ian-500ian-500 Members Posts: 741 ✭✭
    Liking the Epon Tours at the moment. What didn't you like about them?
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    Adams XTD 18* + Matrix White Tie x.
    Adams Pro 23 Tour Issue + Tour AD UT95x
    Adams DHY Pro 27 + UST Irod 105x.
    Adams XTD Forged Tour Issue 6i - GW + UST Recoil Prototype 125F5.
    Callaway PM19 54/58 + KBS Hi-Rev.
    SeeMore SB1, Accra FX300, Garsen.
  • boycer11boycer11 ClubWRX Posts: 3,490 ClubWRX
    edited Nov 27, 2018 #9


    Liking the Epon Tours at the moment. What didn't you like about them?




    I tended to hit them fat I believe. I cant remember what shafts were in them. I was not fit for them and only had them for about a week. I believe it was the standard tour, not the s.



    Maybe I should give the tour-s a try. I did order the black miura tour.



    Ping G400 max tensei orange pro
    Callaway epic flash sz 3 wood
    Ping g400 5 wd rogue black 7s
    ping g410 tensei hybrid
    Epon 705 5-aw limited black kbs flt matte black/Callaway Apex 2019 combo
    miura limited black tour 2018 54/58
    taylormade jdm itsy bitsy spider
    ping hoofer
    tp5x
  • TherealpatgilesTherealpatgiles Members Posts: 336 ✭✭
    boycer11 wrote:



    Liking the Epon Tours at the moment. What didn't you like about them?




    I tended to hit them fat I believe. I cant remember what shafts were in them. I was not fit for them and only had them for about a week. I believe it was the standard tour, not the s.



    Maybe I should give the tour-s a try. I did order the black miura tour.




    I just got a 50(bent to 48) 54 60 of the epon tours. I kept them same lll of my vokeys. Hope they were worth the money.
    Taylormade m5 9 ad gp 7x
    Epon af901 19 modus 120
    Nike vapor pro combo 3 iron
    Epon af 503 4-w modus 120s
    Epon tour 50 55 60 modus w
    Epon i33 rose gold putter
  • TzoidTzoid Members Posts: 1,674 ✭✭
    edited Nov 27, 2018 #11
    I tried the Fourteen RM-22 Raw back in January and although I liked the look the feel fell short of my Scratch Forged wedges. The bounce options

    with most Japanese companies is always a challenge for me. I like bounce on my SW and less on my LW .
    Texan stranded in "The Peoples Republic of Maryland"
    Ping G400 Max Driver Aldila Rogue Silver 110 M.S.I. 60
    Ping G400 3 Wood Aldila Rogue Silver 110 M.S.I. 70
    Ping G25 20 & Anser 23 Hybrid
    ONOFF KURO 2015 4-PW N.S Pro Modus3 Tour 120S
    Scratch 50 54 58 Forged Wedges Nippon WV 115 Shafts
    Scotty Cameron Newport 2 Studio Stainless
    Ping Vault 2.0 Dale Anser Custom
    Titleist Pro V-1X
  • Jack PearsallJack Pearsall Members Posts: 3,351 ✭✭
    Epon for JP.
    Taylormade SLDR TP 430 10*
    Taylormade Aeroburner 15*
    Taylormade SLDR 19*
    Mizuno MP FliHi 21* 24*
    Mizuno MP-15 5-PW
    Mizuno MP T7 52* 58*
    Scotty Cameron TeI3 Newport Longneck
  • boycer11boycer11 ClubWRX Posts: 3,490 ClubWRX


    Epon for JP.




    Which ones? And what shafts?
    Ping G400 max tensei orange pro
    Callaway epic flash sz 3 wood
    Ping g400 5 wd rogue black 7s
    ping g410 tensei hybrid
    Epon 705 5-aw limited black kbs flt matte black/Callaway Apex 2019 combo
    miura limited black tour 2018 54/58
    taylormade jdm itsy bitsy spider
    ping hoofer
    tp5x
  • repernareperna Members Posts: 256 ✭✭
    ive been using vegas for a couple years now. really like them...but getting the urge to move on to something else! i cant imagine anything feeling much softer than the vegas though
  • Swisstrader98Swisstrader98 Members Posts: 3,538 ✭✭
    Epon 705 wedge for my 50 degree and Callaway for 56/60. Played w my 50 today in 40 degree weather and it was deadly. Looking for a replacement for the callaways starting next season.
  • ian-500ian-500 Members Posts: 741 ✭✭
    reperna wrote:


    ive been using vegas for a couple years now. really like them...but getting the urge to move on to something else! i cant imagine anything feeling much softer than the vegas though




    Royal Collection.
    Cobra F9 8* + Fujikura Speeder TR757x.
    Adams XTD 18* + Matrix White Tie x.
    Adams Pro 23 Tour Issue + Tour AD UT95x
    Adams DHY Pro 27 + UST Irod 105x.
    Adams XTD Forged Tour Issue 6i - GW + UST Recoil Prototype 125F5.
    Callaway PM19 54/58 + KBS Hi-Rev.
    SeeMore SB1, Accra FX300, Garsen.
  • JI3JI3 OrlandoMembers Posts: 150 ✭✭
    Epon Tour Wedges are lovely.

    The F grind for gap wedge is excellent for full shot.

    The N grind for sand wedge is versatile which is both good for full shots and delicate chip shots around the green.

    The O grind for lob wedge is just perfect for opening up and creating flop shots and bunker shots.

    The bounce on each of the wedges are just enough to be effective without being too chunky.
    Cobra F9 Speedback 7.5° - Mitsubishi Chemical Tensei Pro Orange 60 45" / Elite Y360S Grip
    Cobra KING LTD Black 13.5° - Mitsubishi Chemical Fubuki Tour 73 43" (tipped 1") / Star Sidewinder Grip STD
    Cobra KING F6 Baffler 17.5° - Project X HZRDUS Black 75 42" (tipped 1") / Star Sidewinder Grip STD
    Cobra KING F7 Hybrid 17.5° - Graphite Design Tour AD DI Hybrid 85 41" / Star Sidewinder Grip STD
    Epon AF-903 18° - Graphite Design Tour AD DI Hybrid 95 39.75" / Elite Y360S Grip
    Epon AF-Tour CB 4~PW - Oban CT-115 S+ / Iomic Sticky 1.8
    Epon Tour Wedge - F Grind 50°/10°, N Grind 54°/10°, O Grind 60°/9° - Oban CT-115 S+ / Iomic Sticky 1.8
    EVNROLL ER7 - Breakthrough Golf Technology Stability EI GJ 1.0 34" (75g Counter Balanced) / Garsen Tour Proto Grip
    Taylormade TP5X
    Epon Dead or Alive Stand Bag
    Footjoy Pure Touch Limited Glove / GFore Competition Stripe Onyx Glove

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    Callaway Apex UT 18° - Aerotech SteelFiber i95 40" / Star Sidewinder Grip STD
    Srixon Z745 4~PW - Nippon N.S.Pro Modus³ TOUR120 / Star Sidewinder Grip STD
    Titleist Vokey SM6 F Grind 50°/12°, SM6 F Grind 54°/14°, SM6 K Grind 60°/12° - Dynamic Gold / Star Sidewinder Grip STD
    Bettinardi BB1F - 34" / Flat Cat Solution Grip STD
  • TherealpatgilesTherealpatgiles Members Posts: 336 ✭✭
    JI3 wrote:


    Epon Tour Wedges are lovely.

    The F grind for gap wedge is excellent for full shot.

    The N grind for sand wedge is versatile which is both good for full shots and delicate chip shots around the green.

    The O grind for lob wedge is just perfect for opening up and creating flop shots and bunker shots.

    The bounce on each of the wedges are just enough to be effective without being too chunky.




    ive only hit mine once but i agree. theyre fabulous wedges.
    Taylormade m5 9 ad gp 7x
    Epon af901 19 modus 120
    Nike vapor pro combo 3 iron
    Epon af 503 4-w modus 120s
    Epon tour 50 55 60 modus w
    Epon i33 rose gold putter
  • sirukumasirukuma Members Posts: 252 ✭✭
    Fourteen FH-Forged V1. Just picked up a 54 & 58 in Tokyo late last year to replace my older RM-22s. LOVE these wedges. Feel, spin and distance control is as good as I have ever played.
  • aussiebaussieb Lefty Boomers Posts: 811 ✭✭
    Vega's are some really good wedges. I really liked the feel of my VW-04 and VW-06, but they wore out pretty fast. Raw wedges just look so good behind the ball and not glaring up in the sun or in bunkers makes life easier. Prefer the MD Forged now which has the right aspect of bounce, sole and feel equally soft. In fact, the 60 reminds me of a 1018 Scratch I still have.
    Mizuno ST 190 9.5*, Accra Tour Zx475 M5, 44.5" Epic SZ 15*, GD Quattrotech 8X, 42.5" Ping G400 19*, GD DI-95X, 40.5" Srixon U65 18*, GD DI-105X, 40" Callaway Apex MB 4-P, Pro Modus 130X Calllaway MD Forged 52, 56, 60* Pro Modus Wedge 125 Toulon San Diego 33.5" 2017 Srixon XV
  • cflo2382cflo2382 Members Posts: 359 ✭✭
    edited Jan 10, 2019 7:46pm #21
    I've recently switched to the Miura 2018 Milled Tour wedges and I really like them. Excellent feel, easy to hit different shots with, and I am huge fan of the simple/clean look.. I've only had limited time with them, maybe 3-4 rounds, but they have performed well and have been surprisingly easy to get used to/dialed in. Looking forward to a full season with them!



    EDIT: I should add that I have gamed Vokeys for years (SM5, SM6, and SM7) prior to the switch.
    Post edited by Unknown User on
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    Miura 1957 51y, 55c, 60y w/ SPBx
    SC Studio Select Newport 2 Mid Slant
    ProV1x | Vessel Players 2.0 Stand
  • 3_Putt_Par3_Putt_Par Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion man. Members Posts: 879 ✭✭
    sirukuma wrote:


    Fourteen FH-Forged V1. Just picked up a 54 & 58 in Tokyo late last year to replace my older RM-22s. LOVE these wedges. Feel, spin and distance control is as good as I have ever played.




    What shaft did you get them with? Interested in hearing feedback about the stock NS Pro T-114W wedge shaft option that they made especially for these clubs. I have these on my short list for possible replacements to my 60* this year.
    9* Ping G400 Max w/ Tour AD GP 7
    14.5* PRGR EGG HD w/ P9003
    18* Titleist 917F2 w/ Diamana BF 80
    24* Honma TW-U w/ Vizard IB 105
    5-PW Callaway Legacy Black (2011) w/ Modus3 125
    52/08 OnOff 2015 Kuro Forged Wedge Black Finish
    56/12 Ping Glide 2.0 Stealth w/ Modus3 125
    60/08 Fourteen RM 21 w/ Modus 125 Wedge
    Ever rotating 3 Putting implement of humiliation
  • 4rheel4rheel OC, CaliforniaMembers Posts: 1,864 ✭✭
    No love for Vokey Cold Forged wedges? Those feel way better than Vokey SM7 I bagged for a little bit.
  • ian-500ian-500 Members Posts: 741 ✭✭
    Just re-shafted my Epon Tour 52 with an Accra Tour 110i TiMesh today. Just beautiful feeling at the range today. Matches well with my OnOff irons. Hopefully having my 56 shafted with the Accra SPI Tour TiMesh late next week. Love it.
    Cobra F9 8* + Fujikura Speeder TR757x.
    Adams XTD 18* + Matrix White Tie x.
    Adams Pro 23 Tour Issue + Tour AD UT95x
    Adams DHY Pro 27 + UST Irod 105x.
    Adams XTD Forged Tour Issue 6i - GW + UST Recoil Prototype 125F5.
    Callaway PM19 54/58 + KBS Hi-Rev.
    SeeMore SB1, Accra FX300, Garsen.
  • freehbfreehb Members Posts: 839
    Can’t kick out the 213 for 7 years now...want to try the tourspin but it’s like with the 3HT...no reason to fix what ain’t broke...
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    Spoon Roddio F7s
    Cleek Roddio F7s
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  • sirukumasirukuma Members Posts: 252 ✭✭
    3_Putt_Par wrote:

    sirukuma wrote:


    Fourteen FH-Forged V1. Just picked up a 54 & 58 in Tokyo late last year to replace my older RM-22s. LOVE these wedges. Feel, spin and distance control is as good as I have ever played.




    What shaft did you get them with? Interested in hearing feedback about the stock NS Pro T-114W wedge shaft option that they made especially for these clubs. I have these on my short list for possible replacements to my 60* this year.


    Sorry - didn't catch this question earlier.... I play DG AMT in my irons and have been a DG wedge shaft player for years -- found out Fourteen does build these with DG wedge shafts. Just need to look around to find a dealer. I found a place in Tokyo that had both the DG or NS Pro. I went with the DG and I've been very happy with them.
  • sirukumasirukuma Members Posts: 252 ✭✭
    4rheel wrote:


    No love for Vokey Cold Forged wedges? Those feel way better than Vokey SM7 I bagged for a little bit.




    Was actually using Vokey cold forged before I switched to the Fourteen I mentioned above. The Vokey's were nice - but I like the feel around the greens on touch shots even better with the Fourteen. When I first started using the Cold Forged Vokeys, I had several members ask where/how I got them. Few months later on one of my regular trips to Japan, I had a shopping list from everyone of what they wanted. I ended up hauling back a bunch with me --- I remember when I hit customs in US. Officer asked me where I was coming from and what was in the box. I told him golf wedges from Japan and he replied - "Oh, Japan forgings. They're the bomb. Welcome back, enjoy them!" Clearly a fan. Often wondered if he reads this forum.
  • Bimmer1Bimmer1 Members Posts: 2,546 ✭✭
    I received this yesterday. Great gift from a good friend.
  • boycer11boycer11 ClubWRX Posts: 3,490 ClubWRX
    Bimmer1 wrote:


    I received this yesterday. Great gift from a good friend.




    Looks great. What shaft you going to put in it? Let us know how it performs.
    Ping G400 max tensei orange pro
    Callaway epic flash sz 3 wood
    Ping g400 5 wd rogue black 7s
    ping g410 tensei hybrid
    Epon 705 5-aw limited black kbs flt matte black/Callaway Apex 2019 combo
    miura limited black tour 2018 54/58
    taylormade jdm itsy bitsy spider
    ping hoofer
    tp5x
  • Bimmer1Bimmer1 Members Posts: 2,546 ✭✭
    boycer11 wrote:

    Bimmer1 wrote:


    I received this yesterday. Great gift from a good friend.




    Looks great. What shaft you going to put in it? Let us know how it performs.




    I haven’t decided yet but am leaning towards a Nippon Modus wedge shaft.
  • K13K13 Members Posts: 109 ✭✭
    Kingcat990 wrote:


    Vega and Kyoei and the same thing. As well as Yururi.



    So which is it? Fell or forgiveness?




    Did not realize this.



    How do you mean? Forged in the same house? Or literally the same, just stamped with different branding?
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