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Does a goofy golf hole in one still count as a hole in one?

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Every golfers worst nightmare. You make your first hole in one and there is something quirky about it that makes you question whether it's real. For most people this probably happens when they make an ace playing alone. For me, it happened in a goofy winter tournament setup......<br />
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The annual Turkey Shoot.....a no pressure, mostly drinking event, where the pros get to have some fun in setting up the layout. What this entails is setting up most of the course to play backwards (example, play from 13 tee back to 12 green, or play a par 5 spread across multiple holes). So we get to what is our 16th hole of the day.....makeshift teebox setup behind the 9th green, hitting over a pond to the 18th green....157 yards. I knew I hit a good shot right at the flag but thought it might have been a little long (couldn't see the hole from the tee).....my playing partners looked around and sure enough my ball was in the hole........let the screaming and bourbon shots ensue. <br />
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Now i'm faced with the tough question. Was this a real hole in one??? My playing partners definitely say yes, I'm inclined to say yes, but there were a few rumblings in the clubhouse about it not being legit.
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  • BrianMcGBrianMcG Members  2377WRX Points: 670Posts: 2,377 Platinum Tees
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    It makes a great story regardless.
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  • b.heltsb.helts Members  3236WRX Points: 724Posts: 3,236 Titanium Tees
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    Of course it is a hole in one. Congrats!!
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  • rcb1586rcb1586 Members  402WRX Points: 98Handicap: 10Posts: 402 Greens
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    I'd be counting it. <br />
    http://www.usgolfregister.org/faq<br />
    https://www.usga.org...dx=148&Rule=100<br />
    The USGA® recommends that a hole-in-one be considered valid:<br />
    If made at a hole with a temporary tee and/or putting green in use, even if the Committee did not specifically define the teeing ground with tee-markers; the length of the hole at the time should be stated on any certificate.
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  • Lefty96Lefty96 Members  243WRX Points: 173Posts: 243 Fairways
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    Of course it is. Sure its not how your course is normally set up, but it was how the course was set up that day. You aced a 157 yard par three. Would you question it if it happened at a course that wasn't your home course? It just happened on a "different" course. Congrats man!
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  • jslane57jslane57 Members  3929WRX Points: 27Handicap: <5Posts: 3,929 Titanium Tees
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    Heck yeah! That is better than a regular hole in one as you've got to actually tell the whole story and show how the course was set up. This is a great passive brag thread:)
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  • pdhoffpdhoff ClubWRX  97WRX Points: 25Handicap: 3Posts: 97 Fairways
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    jslane57 wrote:
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    Heck yeah! That is better than a regular hole in one as you've got to actually tell the whole story and show how the course was set up. This is a great passive brag thread:)<br />
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    Haha. You got me on the passive brag.<br /><br />
    rcb1586 wrote:
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    I'd be counting it.<br />
    http://www.usgolfregister.org/faq<br />
    https://www.usga.org...dx=148&Rule=100<br />
    The USGA® recommends that a hole-in-one be considered valid:<br />
    If made at a hole with a temporary tee and/or putting green in use, even if the Committee did not specifically define the teeing ground with tee-markers; the length of the hole at the time should be stated on any certificate.
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    This is awesome. Thanks!
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  • larrybudlarrybud Rochester Hills, MIMembers  11599WRX Points: 486Handicap: 3.4Posts: 11,599 Titanium Tees
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    Your buddies only say "yes" because they want a free drink.<br />
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    I wouldn't count it for myself, only that I would want the round of golf to be a legit round. Was the round played according to the rules of golf?
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  • pdhoffpdhoff ClubWRX  97WRX Points: 25Handicap: 3Posts: 97 Fairways
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    larrybud wrote:
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    Your buddies only say "yes" because they want a free drink.<br />
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    I wouldn't count it for myself, only that I would want the round of golf to be a legit round. Was the round played according to the rules of golf?<br />
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    Shamble format, but yes everything else about it was legit. I think the USGA rule that rcb1586 posted pretty much settles it. Don't get me wrong, I'd still like to card a no questions asked HIO as soon as possible to put any discussion to rest.
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    So gap wedge or lob? Nice 3 foot draw or the classic baby fade?<br />
    Congratulations! I am in the close but no cigar contingent.
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  • KnightPSKnightPS Members  291WRX Points: 51Handicap: 7.3Posts: 291 Greens
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    At 157 yards, its certainly a hole in one.<br />
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    In High School one of our assistant coaches aced a 165 yard par 3. The catch was that it was an absolute horrible golf shot that only flew about 90 yards before it bounced and rolled up and into the cup. Took the wind out of his celebration and he was almost embarrassed to describe it in the team room. I would much rather have your story than his.
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  • FergusonFerguson Members  5925WRX Points: 3,380Handicap: 7.0Posts: 5,925 Titanium Tees
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    Great story and I'm glad you made the shot.<br />
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    This description says it all - "makeshift tee box setup behind the 9th green, hitting over a pond to the 18th green"<br />
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    My conclusions: <br />
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    Anything "makeshift" does not constitute an official golf hole.<br />
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    You must ask yourself - will another golfer one week from now, one year from now or 10 years from now be able to replicate your shot from the contrived 157 yards from a makeshift tee box ? <br />
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    The answer to this question and the "main" question, "did you make a hole-in-one" share the same answer.<br />
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    The answer is, no.
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  • BarfolomewBarfolomew #worstWRXer Members  1964WRX Points: 422Posts: 1,964 Platinum Tees
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    Yeah sounds good cause that was the set up.<br />
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    At least your first was a pure shot...beating the hole! Mine was a horrible skull shot bouncing off everything like a pin ball before going in so I still haven't hit the perfect shot in my book.... well done!
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    If Tiger or Phil would have had a hole-in-one during their playoff on the hole from the putting green, would it have counted? Absolutely.
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  • DavePelz4DavePelz4 A golf course in the Chicago area.ClubWRX  25475WRX Points: 2,681Handicap: 2 ManyPosts: 25,475 ClubWRX
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    First, congrats! Any hole played with 1 shot is a hole in 1. So when they put your name up on the plaque, what will be the hole designation for your ace?
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  • Lefty96Lefty96 Members  243WRX Points: 173Posts: 243 Fairways
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    I am honestly surprised so many people are being so negative about it. He hit from where the tee blocks were set up to the designated green and it when in the hole. That is how the hole was supposed to be played that day. It was a par 3. Its not like the tee was 20 yards away from the green. Its not like he said "Hey should I try to hit the 18th green from here?" and it went in. No, that was how the course was set up that day and he aced the hole. I am actually pretty disappointed in the brashness of the nay-sayers.
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    What if you were new player and never had a par before? If you would have carded a par would you question if your par was legit? I don't think it matter what you scored, you played from the tees as marked for the day and completed the hole following the rules of golf. Good Ace to me.
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  • wildcatdenwildcatden China Cat Sunflower Members  1281WRX Points: 679Posts: 1,281 Platinum Tees
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    I say YES it is a hole-in-one unless it bounced off the clown's nose. Then no.
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    Lefty96 wrote:
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    I am honestly surprised so many people are being so negative about it. He hit from where the tee blocks were set up to the designated green and it when in the hole. That is how the hole was supposed to be played that day. It was a par 3. Its not like the tee was 20 yards away from the green. Its not like he said "Hey should I try to hit the 18th green from here?" and it went in. No, that was how the course was set up that day and he aced the hole. I am actually pretty disappointed in the brashness of the nay-sayers.<br />
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    I'm not surprised by the negativity in the least. The great thing about this type of hole in one is it helps easily identify the stuffed shirts in the crowd.
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  • FergusonFerguson Members  5925WRX Points: 3,380Handicap: 7.0Posts: 5,925 Titanium Tees
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    Lefty96 wrote:
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    I am honestly surprised so many people are being so negative about it. He hit from where the tee blocks were set up to the designated green and it when in the hole. That is how the hole was supposed to be played that day. It was a par 3. Its not like the tee was 20 yards away from the green. Its not like he said "Hey should I try to hit the 18th green from here?" and it went in. No, that was how the course was set up that day and he aced the hole. I am actually pretty disappointed in the brashness of the nay-sayers.<br />
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    "So many people" ????<br />
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    It was only me and LARRYBUD who didn't acquiesce.
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  • wkuo3wkuo3 RELEASE Members  4370WRX Points: 386Posts: 4,370 Titanium Tees
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    Where is my drink ticket ? Or, where is the open bar ?
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  • clp34vmpclp34vmp Cancel that mead Members  303WRX Points: 118Handicap: 7.7Posts: 303 Greens
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    I vote with the hole in one crew. There was a tee box set up 157 yards from a pin, you played hole as it was specifically designated to be played that day, and you played it one shot. That's a hole in one as far as I'm concerned. Although getting one of those plaques you can buy in the pro shop with your name, the date, and a picture of the hole it occurred on might be kind of difficult in this case.
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  • FairwayFredFairwayFred Sponsors  4433WRX Points: 649Posts: 4,433 Titanium Tees
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    Absolutely 100% a hole in one.
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  • golfgirlrobingolfgirlrobin Northern CaliforniaMembers  2396WRX Points: 445Handicap: 2.0Posts: 2,396 Platinum Tees
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    I’m generally a hardas* about stuff like this and whether it counts, but I’d definitely call it legit. You play the course as you find it.
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    The course is set up how it's set up....if you hit the ball in the hole in one shot.....it counts
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    b.helts wrote:
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    Of course it is a hole in one. Congrats!!<br />
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    Certainly! Congratulations!<br />
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    Absolutely 100% a hole in one.<br />
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    Yep and Congrats!
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    I'll have a Fresca! Good job!
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    Yes it counts, congrats.
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    Does buying a quick-pick lotto number...and you win...count as a goofy get-rich scheme?
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  • zonadubzonadub Members  342WRX Points: 105Posts: 342 Greens
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    Ferguson wrote:
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    Great story and I'm glad you made the shot.<br />
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    This description says it all - "makeshift tee box setup behind the 9th green, hitting over a pond to the 18th green"<br />
    <br />
    <br />
    My conclusions: <br />
    <br />
    Anything "makeshift" does not constitute an official golf hole.<br />
    <br />
    You must ask yourself - will another golfer one week from now, one year from now or 10 years from now be able to replicate your shot from the contrived 157 yards from a makeshift tee box ? <br />
    <br />
    <br />
    The answer to this question and the "main" question, "did you make a hole-in-one" share the same answer.<br />
    <br />
    The answer is, no.<br />
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    They can set up the course the same way in following years, 1 year, 10 years and players will have the opportunity to replicate your ace. . 157 yards in 1 shot is a hole in one. <br />
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    So yes, the answer to both questions is yes.
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