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  • jt2gtjt2gt Posts: 544 ✭✭
    Or....pick one up on the Classifieds -- BTW, I have a killer M10 with chocolate patina finish at a great price posted. image/biggrin.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':D' />
  • kmbeankmbean Members Posts: 918 ✭✭
    edited Sep 11, 2017 #6813
    I sent two of my Machines in for some custom work in May17 and paid half deposit. Dave quoted me 6 weeks lead time. I've emailed him a few times now to check the status and have not heard anything back. Now I'm out both of my Machines plus I have half the deposit for the work on my credit card. I guess I can dispute that but this is really pissing me off. Talked to Dave on the phone and everything regarding my work order. Not sure where to go from here
  • AnserAnser ClubWRX Posts: 2,207 ✭✭
    kmbean wrote:


    I sent two of my Machines in for some custom work in May17 and paid half deposit. Dave quoted me 6 weeks lead time. I've emailed him a few times now to check the status and have not heard anything back. Now I'm out both of my Machines plus I have half the deposit for the work on my credit card. I guess I can dispute that but this is really pissing me off. Talked to Dave on the phone and everything regarding my work order. Not sure where to go from here




    Police Department



    At this point, they're a mail fraud operation. I wish it weren't that way and I'd like to get one from the source but no way I'd give them a dollar at the moment.
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  • MedsonMedson Members Posts: 2,310 ✭✭
    This is getting really sad.
  • BYKBYK Members Posts: 1,602 ✭✭
    How can you take new orders if you have customers out there who have already paid you and haven't received their orders?
    Yadi for President
  • AnserAnser ClubWRX Posts: 2,207 ✭✭
    BYK wrote:


    How can you take new orders if you have customers out there who have already paid you and haven't received their orders?




    I'd ask how can anyone submit an order knowing this info
    TM M4 D-Type 9.5 - Tour AD IZ 7s
    TM M4 3HL, 5 HL, Tour AD IZ 7s
    Cleveland Hibore Xli 3,4,5
    TM 790 6-AW, Project X LZ 6.0
    Cleveland RTX 54/58
    TaylorMade HiToe 64
    Evnroll ER-5, Evnroll ER-2.1
  • evoviiiyouevoviiiyou evoviiiyou Members Posts: 1,987 ✭✭
    Anser wrote:

    BYK wrote:


    How can you take new orders if you have customers out there who have already paid you and haven't received their orders?




    I'd ask how can anyone submit an order knowing this info




    I was very fortunate and Dave was awesome with my build before whatever happened. It's easily my favorite putter I own and hopefully it will all work out for Machine in the near future! Just to much talent, demand and beauty for golf if this company goes away. Good luck everyone I really feel for all the misfortune!

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    Mizuno JPX 919F 4-9/ Nippon SPO S/ PURE Wrap BLK
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  • MaddMaxxMaddMaxx Members Posts: 660 ✭✭
    Small business in a competitive area is very difficult to manage and it takes more than a great product to survive.

    If they dont have the business side down they will never succeed no matter how much raw talent they have.

    It will be a succession of open and closing shop and making as much money as possible.
  • shearsj4988shearsj4988 Members Posts: 11
    edited Sep 24, 2017 #6820
    SwingBlues wrote:

    Medson wrote:


    I bought a Machine straight up on eBay. No problem.



    I wouldn't trust anyone who promises custom work.




    I don't know about that, look at Byron at Bryon Morgan, I don't hear any issues with his putters. Plus hes a great bloke to deal with directly and his putters 1st class, top notch. Mind you, it been a while since I bought my custom Channel Island from the man himself. Its still in my house, won't move that on. There are still other great putter companies that can be trusted, MACHINE is still in re-hab, I guess.



    As a long time customer of MACHINE & Dave, it really saddens me to hear like things have not improved. I thought the last post by Dave indicated he's corrected himself and coming back. But it sounds like the emails are still unanswered and the trust is still not there. $1,200 is a LOT to spend on a customised putter so I have empathy for that poster. For now, I would not do any customs from MACHINE either until I hear things are back to normal - order put thought, order delivered on time.



    It been about a year now since I last settled with Dave. Back then I too waited for more than a year for my meager customization but I will say, Dave made up for the delay with some goodies & for that I am grateful and have no quam but it really rips my heart to see such a great company with such great innovation to be where they are now... kinda makes me puke when you see lesser, crappy companies that are still floating around.



    My 2c & good luck to all.






    Yeah its pretty crappy. I haven't put in a dispute with PayPal yet because i do really want my custom GSS Adjuster. A part of me still has hope in humanity, and during the order process Dave struck me as a intelligent person. I gotta believe he'll come through. Last i heard from him was a email which entail his ongoing issues and a offer of a putter out of his vault as a token of gratitude for the wait. I requested a Damascus Art putter and thats the last i heard from him. Fingers crossed. Does any know if he's still in the Irving, TX area? I'm only a few hours away from Irving. Wouldn't mind tracking him down and meeting face to face.
  • SwingBluesSwingBlues We are the Old Dark Navy Blues Members Posts: 3,437 ✭✭


    Yeah its pretty crappy. I haven't put in a dispute with PayPal yet because i do really want my custom GSS Adjuster. A part of me still has hope in humanity, and during the order process Dave struck me as a intelligent person. I gotta believe he'll come through. Last i heard from him was a email which entail his ongoing issues and a offer of a putter out of his vault as a token of gratitude for the wait. I requested a Damascus Art putter and thats the last i heard from him. Fingers crossed. Does any know if he's still in the Irving, TX area? I'm only a few hours away from Irving. Wouldn't mind tracking him down and meeting face to face.




    Wow, a putter from his vault? You know, I think you're like me, we don't want free stuff, we just want what we paid for and hopefully he will come thru - I gotta believe in Dave. Have you tried calling him on his cell? I would not count on email. But I did post here on this thread and Dave responded back then - when hes a sponsor here but that was a year + ago and things have come to light as to what was happening with his company...



    Also, if you're a few hours, I would take the drive down and see wassup down there but I would scour back to at least a few pages, hes moved his business apparently and there was a few posts about it here. Good luck and let us know whats happening.



    Sad. Great company and ideas, to be let down by p*ss poor management.
    Callaway Epic Flash SubZero 9*, Fujikura Ventus 6-S finished 44.5"
    Honma 737 13* 3 wood, Vizard A 50S shaft
    Taylormade UDI 2 iron, 18* KBS C-Taper Lite

    Taylormade P790 4-PW, Nippon Modus 3 105 with ProSoft inserts, Grip Master Perforated leather grips
    Ben Hogan 2018 Equalizer 48* and 52* Forged wedges
    Nike Engage Toe Sweep 56* wedge
    Directed Force Reno "2.05" with BGT Stability shaft (Presse V tweaked)


    Ball: Srixon XV
    Swing: PPGS, a Surgite !!!
  • choeppnerchoeppner MACHINE Putters Sponsors, Charter Members Posts: 10,298
    Hey Guys,



    I will try and help as much as I can as I took a sabbatical from Machine.



    Please email me at [email protected] with your questions/concerns and I will do my best to help.



    Thank you in advance



    Chris
    Machine_DLR_Header_Logo02.jpg



    Please feel free to contact me at:
    [email="[email protected]?subject=MACHINE%20Putters"][email protected][/email]
  • SwingBluesSwingBlues We are the Old Dark Navy Blues Members Posts: 3,437 ✭✭
    choeppner wrote:


    Hey Guys,



    I will try and help as much as I can as I took a sabbatical from Machine.



    Please email me at [email protected] with your questions/concerns and I will do my best to help.



    Thank you in advance



    Chris




    Appreciate it Chris! We missed you! We also miss dave as well...thank you so much for helping the guys...
    Callaway Epic Flash SubZero 9*, Fujikura Ventus 6-S finished 44.5"
    Honma 737 13* 3 wood, Vizard A 50S shaft
    Taylormade UDI 2 iron, 18* KBS C-Taper Lite

    Taylormade P790 4-PW, Nippon Modus 3 105 with ProSoft inserts, Grip Master Perforated leather grips
    Ben Hogan 2018 Equalizer 48* and 52* Forged wedges
    Nike Engage Toe Sweep 56* wedge
    Directed Force Reno "2.05" with BGT Stability shaft (Presse V tweaked)


    Ball: Srixon XV
    Swing: PPGS, a Surgite !!!
  • wcbjrwcbjr Members Posts: 2,780 ✭✭
    edited Sep 28, 2017 #6824
    Came here for pictures, left without pictures. Good luck!
  • MaddMaxxMaddMaxx Members Posts: 660 ✭✭
    I guess they could take pictures of their un-fulfilled order forms.

    Lots of pics early in the thread.
  • Scottie68Scottie68 Members Posts: 803 ✭✭
    Trying to get some info from MACHINE direct, but no reply, so maybe someone here can help...



    I'm looking to convert an M2A Converter from a plumbers neck to a center shaft. Does anyone know if they sell necks only (without need to send to them), and if so, idea on cost?



    Sorry to post this in the pics thread, but seems to be the place to discuss all things MACHINE.



    Thanks in advance, Scott
  • Etiger83Etiger83 Members Posts: 1,339 ✭✭
    You used to be able to buy necks on shafts (no heads) but not sure if you still can with everything going on
  • choeppnerchoeppner MACHINE Putters Sponsors, Charter Members Posts: 10,298
    Hello,



    Are you meaning the Modular Center Shaft Hosel?



    Also - Working on the Pictures thru Photobucket.



    Thanks



    -Chris
    Machine_DLR_Header_Logo02.jpg



    Please feel free to contact me at:
    [email="[email protected]?subject=MACHINE%20Putters"][email protected][/email]
  • Scottie68Scottie68 Members Posts: 803 ✭✭
    choeppner wrote:
    Hello,



    Are you meaning the Modular Center Shaft Hosel?



    Also - Working on the Pictures thru Photobucket.



    Thanks



    -Chris


    Sorry for de-railing the thread.

    Chris - I sent you an email.
  • TheCompleteHackerTheCompleteHacker Members Posts: 159 ✭✭
    edited Nov 14, 2017 #6830
    Anybody see that the value of Machines on ebay is in massive decline? I thought about picking one up, but was worried about their authenticity. Now that I look at the DLR site though, it appears that the back drop for the ebay images is identical. Only issue is, a lot of these appear to have finish flaws or questionable mods. (I.E. a welded on plumbers neck, when there is clearly a machined hole in the sole for an interchangeable neck.) Any chance these are authentic and DLR is just trying to unload surplus stock to generate funds?
    [font=comic sans ms,cursive]Current Equipment[/font]
    [font=comic sans ms,cursive]Driver: Adams 9032LS - GD Tour AD YSQ & Adams 9064LD 6.5* - Matrix Radix 6[/font]
    [font=comic sans ms,cursive]Fwy: R15 - DVS 85R[/font]
    [font=comic sans ms,cursive]DI: (Looking for a Replacement)[/font]
    [font=comic sans ms,cursive]Uty: Mizuno MP Fli Hi 21* & 24*[/font]
    [font=comic sans ms,cursive]Irons: 07 X Forged 6.5 SS1 5-Pw[/font]
    [font=comic sans ms,cursive]Wedges: SM4 52/8 & SM5 58/4[/font]
    [font=comic sans ms,cursive]Putter: Yes! Stephanie - Winn Excel Jumbo[/font]
  • Ngjg21Ngjg21 Members Posts: 834 ✭✭
    I believe they are authentic--the primary seller (not sure if I can use the username or not) is a legitimate Machine dealer.



    Just a theory, but I think the primary reason many of these are being sold for cheaper prices is because they reflect overstock from the shop. Many are being sold as used, so I would guess they were used for fittings, etc. Many don't come with covers, and good luck getting extra weights, etc. at this point. Again, just a theory.
  • bladehunterbladehunter Today was a good day.... Members Posts: 25,058 ✭✭
    edited Nov 15, 2017 #6832


    Anybody see that the value of Machines on ebay is in massive decline? I thought about picking one up, but was worried about their authenticity. Now that I look at the DLR site though, it appears that the back drop for the ebay images is identical. Only issue is, a lot of these appear to have finish flaws or questionable mods. (I.E. a welded on plumbers neck, when there is clearly a machined hole in the sole for an interchangeable neck.) Any chance these are authentic and DLR is just trying to unload surplus stock to generate funds?




    there have always been garage and ART putters from machine that feature welded necks..... welded up weight ports etc... I had a steam punk with a welded longneck, and welded on flange with welded up weight ports...Hand stamping etc.... Ive seen the ones your talking about on ebay... they are 100% legit and a great value ...
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  • TheCompleteHackerTheCompleteHacker Members Posts: 159 ✭✭



    Anybody see that the value of Machines on ebay is in massive decline? I thought about picking one up, but was worried about their authenticity. Now that I look at the DLR site though, it appears that the back drop for the ebay images is identical. Only issue is, a lot of these appear to have finish flaws or questionable mods. (I.E. a welded on plumbers neck, when there is clearly a machined hole in the sole for an interchangeable neck.) Any chance these are authentic and DLR is just trying to unload surplus stock to generate funds?




    there have always been garage and ART putters from machine that feature welded necks..... welded up weight ports etc... I had a steam punk with a welded longneck, and welded on flange with welded up weight ports...Hand stamping etc.... Ive seen the ones your talking about on ebay... they are 100% legit and a great value ...




    Bladehunter -



    I know that they've done the welded items, but typically with their welded necks I've never seen the recess milled into the sole for the neck ****. These just look like they were done as an after thought.
    [font=comic sans ms,cursive]Current Equipment[/font]
    [font=comic sans ms,cursive]Driver: Adams 9032LS - GD Tour AD YSQ & Adams 9064LD 6.5* - Matrix Radix 6[/font]
    [font=comic sans ms,cursive]Fwy: R15 - DVS 85R[/font]
    [font=comic sans ms,cursive]DI: (Looking for a Replacement)[/font]
    [font=comic sans ms,cursive]Uty: Mizuno MP Fli Hi 21* & 24*[/font]
    [font=comic sans ms,cursive]Irons: 07 X Forged 6.5 SS1 5-Pw[/font]
    [font=comic sans ms,cursive]Wedges: SM4 52/8 & SM5 58/4[/font]
    [font=comic sans ms,cursive]Putter: Yes! Stephanie - Winn Excel Jumbo[/font]




  • Anybody see that the value of Machines on ebay is in massive decline? I thought about picking one up, but was worried about their authenticity. Now that I look at the DLR site though, it appears that the back drop for the ebay images is identical. Only issue is, a lot of these appear to have finish flaws or questionable mods. (I.E. a welded on plumbers neck, when there is clearly a machined hole in the sole for an interchangeable neck.) Any chance these are authentic and DLR is just trying to unload surplus stock to generate funds?




    there have always been garage and ART putters from machine that feature welded necks..... welded up weight ports etc... I had a steam punk with a welded longneck, and welded on flange with welded up weight ports...Hand stamping etc.... Ive seen the ones your talking about on ebay... they are 100% legit and a great value ...




    Bladehunter -



    I know that they've done the welded items, but typically with their welded necks I've never seen the recess milled into the sole for the neck ****. These just look like they were done as an after thought.




    I just bought one from fast_greens and met him and he said he's an authorized dealer, works with Dave at DLR a few days a week, and also works at Clubfinders Golf Shop. He even helped me with a hosel I was looking for, so all seemed legit to me.
  • NoCautionNoCaution Members Posts: 150 ✭✭


    I just bought one from fast_greens and met him and he said he's an authorized dealer, works with Dave at DLR a few days a week, and also works at Clubfinders Golf Shop. He even helped me with a hosel I was looking for, so all seemed legit to me.




    He's legit, and I wouldn't have any qualms about ordering from his eBay. However, I had him facilitate a custom putter over the summer and it was the absolute WORST experience ever. It took nearly 3 months to get everything I was owed, including multiple mistakes and forgotten items (I still don't have the correct medallion screws). By the time I got the blank medallion I originally was promised, I was so utterly sick of dealing with his sh*tty communication that I didn't even bother to bring up the fact that it DOESN'T match the putter (as he promised it would).



    Don't get me wrong though; The putter itself is a thing of stunning beauty, and Dave continues to do great work, but until he hires someone with actual customer service skills to run his business, he's doomed.



    I have no doubt that you get what you see from those eBay listings, but if you dare to ask for anything even slightly custom... BEWARE!
    I'd certainly hate to be left out of the "WITB signature" thingy, so...

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    Cobra F8 3 Wood 14.5° - Hzrdus Black 65 6.0, 3/4 inch short
    Cobra F8 4 Hybrid 22° - UST Recoil 780 ES Smacwrap Black F4, 1/2 inch short
    Taylormade P790 5-AW Irons - KBS Tour FLT 120 S, 1/4 inch short
    Edel 54°, 58°, and 62° Wedges - KBS Hi-Rev, with various mods and adjustments
    Custom Black Machine M20 Putter - Matte Black Shaft and Skull Edition Superstroke Pistol GT Tour Grip
    Bridgestone B330 RX Balls (or e6 if I start to lose too many that day)
    Ogio Silencer bag for riding/pushcart or Jones Original bag for carrying
    Bagboy Triswivel II for my fat @$$ to walk more
    All clubs besides putter have MCC +4 standard grips, with the "Align" version on driver and fairway
    Custom VW GTI plaid seat headcovers and towel
    Asher Death Wish glove, obnoxious purple pants with a bright green belt, and a pentagram ball marker to irritate the old men who take everything WAY too seriously
  • kmbeankmbean Members Posts: 918 ✭✭
    Yeah I still don't have my two putters I sent him in May-17 after multiple promises. Originally quoted a 6-8 week turnaround time.
  • Etiger83Etiger83 Members Posts: 1,339 ✭✭
    kmbean wrote:


    Yeah I still don't have my two putters I sent him in May-17 after multiple promises. Originally quoted a 6-8 week turnaround time.




    Have you reached out to Chris on here? He posted a few posts above yours and I think he is still sort of affiliated with Machine and maybe could help.



    Hate to see what this has become as I've owned a few machines (bought well before the troubles started and were both great experiences) as Dave was pumping out IMHO the best and most innovative custom works available
  • kmbeankmbean Members Posts: 918 ✭✭
    Yes I contracted Chris over the summer. He said Dave would be contacting me and they would make it right. Still not right
  • CarlSpackler910D3CarlSpackler910D3 Connect-I-CutClubWRX Posts: 593 ClubWRX

    Little thread revival. Don't care that the business is most likely done for Dave. I know I just tried selling this but decided to keep it in the bag for a while. Anyone else still have some cool Machine putters?

    -Justin

    TM M3 460
    TM M6 3w
    TM M6 Hybrid
    Cobra King Forged Tour 4-AW
    TM Milled Grind 58*

    Putters
    Lajosi Damascus Bayzie HSM
    Lajosi DD201 WBX
    Scotty Cameron TeI3 Newport
    Machine Proto M2A
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