What's your take on napa putters?

ghoonkghoonk The HoarderMembers Posts: 215 ✭✭
Just picked one up in Borealis Black from a local seller 3 weeks back. Headcover was drier than a mummy, and it's taken me a while to get used to it. My gamer is a Miura MGP-03, but I'm growing oddly fond of this napa-style putter - 20 for 20 on an artificial 6' putting strip isn't bad for my level of play.



What seems to work for me is the relatively heavier head weight (the SS6 is 358g, while most other napa-style heads are in the 320-335g range)



As it stands, I've never seen anyone else game a napa putter in over 10 years of playing golf, and now I'm wondering how many of you guys do, and what you used to game before switching



Also, aside from the SS6, are there any other napa putters out there that don't break the bank? I've looked at the SC Napa (all below 350g, and $$$ with risk of eBay fakes) and the Wilson 8802 (nice and relatively cheap, would make a nice beater napa if it wasn't only 320g).
Srixon Z785 w/ stock Miyazaki Mahana (S) shaft
Srizon F65 3w (15*) w/ stock Miyazaki Kaula (S)
Srixon Z U85 20* driving iron
Miura MC501 4-PW w/ TT S300 AMT White (S) shaft
Miura 50*, 54*, 58* Forged black wedges w/ KBS Tour matt black wedge shafts
Bettinardi Studio Stock #8 putter
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  • bazinozbazinoz Members Posts: 499 ✭✭
    edited Nov 27, 2018 #2
    ghoonk wrote:


    As it stands, I've never seen anyone else game a napa putter in over 10 years of playing golf,




    Come over to Oz and have a round with me mate image/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />



    I love 8802/Napa styles. And you can pick them up in many weights from old and very light to newer and heavy.



    Btw - it's an 8802. Napa came a lot, lot later image/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />



    IMG-2143.jpg



    And if you are after 8802's that don't break the bank. Wilson like you mentioned (and there are many of them). Some of the newer Wilson Staff 8802's I believe are 350g+.



    Rife Bimini is nice and Odyssey #8 (I have a Black Series Tour Designs in the photo above, it's beautiful). And all the boutique makers will do an 8802 style. Unfortunately they are often a lot more $$ than their standard Anser or mallet styles. I think they see us classic blade lovers coming image/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />





    Edit - here's an older photo of some of mine. Details on the soles if you see a putter you like so you can look for one.



    IMG-1687.jpg



    And you can add Scotty Napa, Rife Bimini, Yes! Sophia and Odyssey #8 since that photo was taken.
  • ghoonkghoonk The Hoarder Members Posts: 215 ✭✭
    Holy smokes - that a sweet collection right there!



    Oz is a good 14 hours away from where I am right now (Dubai), but I'm from Singapore, so I might take you up on that offer when I'm back in Singapore middle of next year!



    So the 8802 came way before the 'napa' label was slapped onto it (by SC, I suspect). I really enjoy a more compact head, something like Miura's KM-008, but that's crazy expensive and hard to find these days, which is why I'm looking out for a Wilson 8802 or maybe one of the Designed by Cleveland Classic putters, but definitely something without a sightlight or alignment dot. I've spotted a few Designed by Cleveland Classic putters on eBay and am considering pulling the trigger on one to see what it's like



    How do you find the 8802 compared to the 'expensive' stuff (e.g. SC)? I've heard good things about the 8802, and if it's anywhere as good as the Studio Stock 6, I might just spring for it
    Srixon Z785 w/ stock Miyazaki Mahana (S) shaft
    Srizon F65 3w (15*) w/ stock Miyazaki Kaula (S)
    Srixon Z U85 20* driving iron
    Miura MC501 4-PW w/ TT S300 AMT White (S) shaft
    Miura 50*, 54*, 58* Forged black wedges w/ KBS Tour matt black wedge shafts
    Bettinardi Studio Stock #8 putter
  • dparkdpark Members Posts: 2,527 ✭✭
    Even before Wilson slapped the "8802" name on a putter, Macgregor had the Ironmaster line and those go back to the 30s.



    I game 8802-style putter too. I prefer the lighter heads (320g) as they have more feel for my putting style. Also strongly prefer the "gun blue" finishes vs any of the chromed finishes just because they "feel" softer (you really can't feel the difference but they "sound" softer and that is a whole different topic)



    I have a DBAP (Designed by Arnold Palmer) which is the same putter headshape, but Wilson renamed it the 8802 when Arnie split from Wilson in 1963. This putter is just too light for my tastes with a C9 swingweight. The heavier, modern 8802 style putters also don't work because they feel so heavy that I can't get the putterhead moving back smoothly.
    Old stuff:
    1962 Tommy Armour AT2W Driver
    1953 Macgregor M65W EOM 3 wood
    1978 H&B PowerBilt Citation 4 wood
    1984 Ben Hogan Apex PC 2-E
    1968 Wilson Dual Wedge
    1964 Acushnet O-SET M6S Bullseye Putter

    New stuff
    Cobra ZL 10.5 driver
    Adams 5050 16 fairway wood
    Adams A2P 20* hybrid
    Titleist 716 MB irons 4-PW
    Callaway Mack Daddy wedges 52, 56, 60
    Scotty Cameron Pro Platinum Napa
  • ghoonkghoonk The Hoarder Members Posts: 215 ✭✭
    dpark wrote:


    Even before Wilson slapped the "8802" name on a putter, Macgregor had the Ironmaster line and those go back to the 30s.



    I game 8802-style putter too. I prefer the lighter heads (320g) as they have more feel for my putting style. Also strongly prefer the "gun blue" finishes vs any of the chromed finishes just because they "feel" softer (you really can't feel the difference but they "sound" softer and that is a whole different topic)



    I have a DBAP (Designed by Arnold Palmer) which is the same putter headshape, but Wilson renamed it the 8802 when Arnie split from Wilson in 1963. This putter is just too light for my tastes with a C9 swingweight. The heavier, modern 8802 style putters also don't work because they feel so heavy that I can't get the putterhead moving back smoothly.




    Interesting - the SS6 was the first 8802-style i tried which worked for me. I can't say for sure if it's the swingweight or the stability that I like, but I've historically not done well with 340g putters in other head styles. There's a nice Made by Cleveland Classic new old stock on ebay now which I might just purchase just to see how it plays out
    Srixon Z785 w/ stock Miyazaki Mahana (S) shaft
    Srizon F65 3w (15*) w/ stock Miyazaki Kaula (S)
    Srixon Z U85 20* driving iron
    Miura MC501 4-PW w/ TT S300 AMT White (S) shaft
    Miura 50*, 54*, 58* Forged black wedges w/ KBS Tour matt black wedge shafts
    Bettinardi Studio Stock #8 putter
  • Rob McHughRob McHugh Rob ClubWRX Posts: 976 ClubWRX
    My Aussie mate Baz has a lovely collection of blades. You can't go wrong with a 8802 style head - I promise it will improve anyone's stroke. The SS6 is a nice stick with the beautiful fly milling but a tad heavy for me. That Cleveland Ben Crenshaw is a good solid putter.



    Good luck there are many great blades out there and Nicklaus, Palmer, Locke et al sank lots of putts with them! :-)



    Rob
  • ghoonkghoonk The Hoarder Members Posts: 215 ✭✭
    This 8802 bug is really starting to bite. Been reading up and there's all kinds of stuff out there, from the BeCu versions to the BeNi versions, and then there are copper variants. My dad gave me his old Ping BeCu anser style putter some time back (it's back in Singapore) and I recall how soft it felt at impact. Only thing I didn't like about it was the weight (too light), but there must be napa variants out there!



    Some people chase Pokemon. I'm now hunting down 8802/napa putters - I must capture them all!
    Srixon Z785 w/ stock Miyazaki Mahana (S) shaft
    Srizon F65 3w (15*) w/ stock Miyazaki Kaula (S)
    Srixon Z U85 20* driving iron
    Miura MC501 4-PW w/ TT S300 AMT White (S) shaft
    Miura 50*, 54*, 58* Forged black wedges w/ KBS Tour matt black wedge shafts
    Bettinardi Studio Stock #8 putter
  • joker21joker21 Members Posts: 419
    there is the heavy putter by boccieri that makes one called the m4-l. It's 375 grams
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  • ghoonkghoonk The Hoarder Members Posts: 215 ✭✭
    joker21 wrote:


    there is the heavy putter by boccieri that makes one called the m4-l. It's 375 grams




    This one? https://www.ebay.com/itm/Used-Boccieri-Golf-Heavy-Putter-M4-L-34-RH/183549053437?hash=item2abc6049fd:g:19YAAOSwT4Za9g0l:rk:3:pf:0



    Looks pretty nice, but my head fails to get around sight lines on these napas. Admittedly, I do like the empty circle that SC puts on their napas image/wink.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=';)' />
    Srixon Z785 w/ stock Miyazaki Mahana (S) shaft
    Srizon F65 3w (15*) w/ stock Miyazaki Kaula (S)
    Srixon Z U85 20* driving iron
    Miura MC501 4-PW w/ TT S300 AMT White (S) shaft
    Miura 50*, 54*, 58* Forged black wedges w/ KBS Tour matt black wedge shafts
    Bettinardi Studio Stock #8 putter
  • bazinozbazinoz Members Posts: 499 ✭✭
    ghoonk wrote:


    Holy smokes - that a sweet collection right there!



    Oz is a good 14 hours away from where I am right now (Dubai), but I'm from Singapore, so I might take you up on that offer when I'm back in Singapore middle of next year!



    So the 8802 came way before the 'napa' label was slapped onto it (by SC, I suspect). I really enjoy a more compact head, something like Miura's KM-008, but that's crazy expensive and hard to find these days, which is why I'm looking out for a Wilson 8802 or maybe one of the Designed by Cleveland Classic putters, but definitely something without a sightlight or alignment dot. I've spotted a few Designed by Cleveland Classic putters on eBay and am considering pulling the trigger on one to see what it's like



    How do you find the 8802 compared to the 'expensive' stuff (e.g. SC)? I've heard good things about the 8802, and if it's anywhere as good as the Studio Stock 6, I might just spring for it




    ghook, whenever you are near Brissy mate, give me a call image/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />



    dpark is correct about the lineage. But somehow they never got referred to as ironmasters, just 8802's over the past decades.



    And you are correct in your post above about there being 1000's of variants. Just about every putter maker does an 8802/Napa variant.

    Do a search on 8802 on GolfWrx putter forums. There's been a few threads listing all the models people can think of. It gets very, very long.



    I have 4 or 5 Wilson versions. The 8802 is my favorite over the 8813 and 8882. The original is also my preferred over the newer "Staff" version. But that's probably because like dpark I also seem to putt better with a lighter putter. And to this chopper/hacker they are every bit as good putting-wise as a scotty or betti or whatever. I'm not too sure whether the amount of $$ paid for a putter corresponds much with how well it plays. But having said that, I have 4 scotty's, a Lajosi, a Betti, a Yamada and other boutiques. That's just the Ho in me.



    Of all my putters, I have an ancient Old Master W802 that is as good or better than all my others. I still "game" it more than my Napa, although it is very light.

    I actually have 2 of them. One left with it's original dings, scrapes and beautiful patina. The other one I've highly polished and is a gorgeous golden colour.

    You can see them 2nd & 3rd left bottom row in the 2nd pic next to another old fave - a Titleist Acushnet heel-shafted flange putter (with the sound slot).



    Those Cleveland DB's are very well regarded. I'm on the lookout for one myself.



    Another favorite as I said above is the Odyssey Black #8. Lot heavier being more recent. And nowhere near the price of the boutique makes.

    And don't forget the Ping Tess. I have shop-tried one of the newer Sigma Tess putters and it went straight to the top of my Xmas wish list. Not sure I have enough browny-points with the missus.



    Lajosi (over here in Oz) makes gorgeous putters. His LP808 is his take on the Napa. Usually around the 350g mark I think. You can probably ask him for heavier if you wish. And with the exchange rate of the Aussie $ at the moment I think they are very competitive price-wise. It's another one on my hit list.



    And the Betti's are also top notch. I think they have 2 or 3 different 8802/Napa styles (SS6 and BB2 are both this style. Think there is another one as well).
  • bazinozbazinoz Members Posts: 499 ✭✭
    Rob McHugh wrote:


    My Aussie mate Baz has a lovely collection of blades. You can't go wrong with a 8802 style head - I promise it will improve anyone's stroke. The SS6 is a nice stick with the beautiful fly milling but a tad heavy for me. That Cleveland Ben Crenshaw is a good solid putter.



    Good luck there are many great blades out there and Nicklaus, Palmer, Locke et al sank lots of putts with them! :-)



    Rob






    Thanks Rob. High praise indeed.



    And not forgetting Lefty-Phil gamed a Yonex Super ADX Forged. Not many better putters than him in his prime. I have a RH Yonex in my collection.

    Just find it waaaay too shiny and bright in our Queensland sun. It's for use on cloudy days image/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />
  • ghoonkghoonk The Hoarder Members Posts: 215 ✭✭
    @bazinoz



    I completely forgot that Bettinardi had the BB2- I'll have to take a look at it!



    I just pulled the trigger on this: : https://www.ebay.com/itm/Designed-by-Cleveland-Classic-Putter-New-Old-Stock-Rare-Black-Crome/113381222912?ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649 so i'll share my 2 cents when/if it finally arrives



    Personal experience with the 'big boys' like Taylormade have recenlty been disappointing. Build quality couldn't be worse - I've had paint chip off my TM Spider Tour center shafted a couple of rounds after purchasing, and a weird white ring is starting to form around the face insert. Compared to the boutique brands and less techy putters (like an 8802 style - what tech?! image/laugh.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':lol:' />), these new putters really fall short on quality, hence I'm staying away from anything produced these days with a face insert.



    So, thanks to you guys, i'm currently eyeing



    A Bettinardi BB2

    An Odyssey Black #8



    and checking out Lajosi



    p.s. how do you guys hide your putters from your significant other?
    Srixon Z785 w/ stock Miyazaki Mahana (S) shaft
    Srizon F65 3w (15*) w/ stock Miyazaki Kaula (S)
    Srixon Z U85 20* driving iron
    Miura MC501 4-PW w/ TT S300 AMT White (S) shaft
    Miura 50*, 54*, 58* Forged black wedges w/ KBS Tour matt black wedge shafts
    Bettinardi Studio Stock #8 putter
  • bazinozbazinoz Members Posts: 499 ✭✭
    edited Nov 28, 2018 #13
    ghoonk wrote:


    p.s. how do you guys hide your putters from your significant other?




    I'll gladly share any and all information I know about golf and a whole range of other things.



    But I'd want paying big bucks to divulge that nugget image/wink.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=';)' />
  • DrJACOBDrJACOB Members Posts: 170 ✭✭
    I have a collection of Left handed 8802/DBAP putters that is just less than 20 or so. I have gamed them all however my best results are with a Bettinardi BB2 with Copper insert (345/350g). This will be the best quality insert putter with a modern weight. The Yonex ADX like Mickelson played way back is on the light side (Graphite shaft) however it works well for me on supper fast greens for some reason. As mentioned above the finish is shinny on sunny days can be a draw back.



    One last one that I would throw out there is the Odyssey PT-82. It has an insert and line for alignment but I think it is the most forgiving of this style. Guess I like Mickelson because he has won with all these on tour. LOL
    TM M1 10.5 with Graphite Design Tour AD DI 8X
    Ping Stretch 13* with Graphite Design Tour AD DI 7X
    Titlesit 910H 19*
    Miura Bades 4-PW
    Miura Wedges 51,55,59
    Callaway PM 64
    BB2 or at least one of my 8802 style putters
  • cardoustiecardoustie haha, we don't play for 5's Members Posts: 11,860 ✭✭
    I have a used SC Napa limited I'd let go. I gamed it for a year so many would want to refinish if they are not bagging it



    I think my fitter may have a miura blade putter in his cabinet.



    I'm in Canada
    Ping G400 LST 11* Oban Revenge 65x
    Ping G400 5w 16.5* Oban Kiyoshi White 65s
    Ping G25 7w 20* Fubuki Tour 73x
    Ping G25 4h 23* Diamana White 92s
    Callaway Apex 5h 26* Mitsu KK 80s
    Ping s55 6-PW Fujikura mci 100s
    Vokey sm2 50* 54* 59* 64* DG s400 Onyx
    Piretti Matera Elite (torched)
  • cardoustiecardoustie haha, we don't play for 5's Members Posts: 11,860 ✭✭
    I used to have a YES putter in the Napa shape .. fantastic putter w great roll and feel
    Ping G400 LST 11* Oban Revenge 65x
    Ping G400 5w 16.5* Oban Kiyoshi White 65s
    Ping G25 7w 20* Fubuki Tour 73x
    Ping G25 4h 23* Diamana White 92s
    Callaway Apex 5h 26* Mitsu KK 80s
    Ping s55 6-PW Fujikura mci 100s
    Vokey sm2 50* 54* 59* 64* DG s400 Onyx
    Piretti Matera Elite (torched)
  • ghoonkghoonk The Hoarder Members Posts: 215 ✭✭
    bazinoz wrote:

    ghoonk wrote:


    p.s. how do you guys hide your putters from your significant other?




    I'll gladly share any and all information I know about golf and a whole range of other things.



    But I'd want paying big bucks to divulge that nugget image/wink.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=';)' />




    Lol I can imagine! That’s a special skill that takes years to acquire!
    Srixon Z785 w/ stock Miyazaki Mahana (S) shaft
    Srizon F65 3w (15*) w/ stock Miyazaki Kaula (S)
    Srixon Z U85 20* driving iron
    Miura MC501 4-PW w/ TT S300 AMT White (S) shaft
    Miura 50*, 54*, 58* Forged black wedges w/ KBS Tour matt black wedge shafts
    Bettinardi Studio Stock #8 putter
  • ghoonkghoonk The Hoarder Members Posts: 215 ✭✭
    cardoustie wrote:


    I have a used SC Napa limited I'd let go. I gamed it for a year so many would want to refinish if they are not bagging it



    I think my fitter may have a miura blade putter in his cabinet.



    I'm in Canada




    Ooooh, what would you happen to be asking for it?
    Srixon Z785 w/ stock Miyazaki Mahana (S) shaft
    Srizon F65 3w (15*) w/ stock Miyazaki Kaula (S)
    Srixon Z U85 20* driving iron
    Miura MC501 4-PW w/ TT S300 AMT White (S) shaft
    Miura 50*, 54*, 58* Forged black wedges w/ KBS Tour matt black wedge shafts
    Bettinardi Studio Stock #8 putter
  • ghoonkghoonk The Hoarder Members Posts: 215 ✭✭
    cardoustie wrote:


    I have a used SC Napa limited I'd let go. I gamed it for a year so many would want to refinish if they are not bagging it



    I think my fitter may have a miura blade putter in his cabinet.



    I'm in Canada
    Srixon Z785 w/ stock Miyazaki Mahana (S) shaft
    Srizon F65 3w (15*) w/ stock Miyazaki Kaula (S)
    Srixon Z U85 20* driving iron
    Miura MC501 4-PW w/ TT S300 AMT White (S) shaft
    Miura 50*, 54*, 58* Forged black wedges w/ KBS Tour matt black wedge shafts
    Bettinardi Studio Stock #8 putter
  • bazinozbazinoz Members Posts: 499 ✭✭
    edited Nov 28, 2018 #20
    cardoustie wrote:


    I used to have a YES putter in the Napa shape .. fantastic putter w great roll and feel




    Think that is the Yes! Sophia.



    It's the 8802 variant for them. I have one too. Bottom right 2nd pic.


    cardoustie wrote:


    I have a used SC Napa limited I'd let go. I gamed it for a year so many would want to refinish if they are not bagging it



    I think my fitter may have a miura blade putter in his cabinet.



    I'm in Canada




    We want pictures please Sir. image/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />
  • craz-ecraz-e Members Posts: 4,063 ✭✭
    love the 8802 head shape, although I have also been eyeing up the Miura KM-008 putter as well. Never seem to see many Bettinardi SS6 putters pop up for sale as that's another one I am considering
    Driver = Ping G410 Plus even flow black 6.0
    5 Wood = Taylormade Burner

    Irons = Miura 1957 Baby Blades Project X LZ 6.0 (4-PW)
    Wilson Staff FG59 DG S300's (4-PW)
    Titleist 718 MB Project X LZ 6.0 (4-PW)
    Wedges = Titleist Vokey SM6 52*, 56* and 60*

    = Taylormade 64* Hi-Toe
    Putter = Wilson Staff 8882
    Ball = Titleist AVX
  • Misc1600Misc1600 ClubWRX Posts: 915 ClubWRX
    What’s difference in a TP Mills 1 vs a 8802
  • ghoonkghoonk The Hoarder Members Posts: 215 ✭✭
    craz-e wrote:


    love the 8802 head shape, although I have also been eyeing up the Miura KM-008 putter as well. Never seem to see many Bettinardi SS6 putters pop up for sale as that's another one I am considering




    I have thing for the 008 at the moment as well, but that thing retailed at 450 and prices are now almost double that. It's crazy. I'll be checking them out at Torque Golf when I'm back in Singapore in early Feb image/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />
    Srixon Z785 w/ stock Miyazaki Mahana (S) shaft
    Srizon F65 3w (15*) w/ stock Miyazaki Kaula (S)
    Srixon Z U85 20* driving iron
    Miura MC501 4-PW w/ TT S300 AMT White (S) shaft
    Miura 50*, 54*, 58* Forged black wedges w/ KBS Tour matt black wedge shafts
    Bettinardi Studio Stock #8 putter
  • dparkdpark Members Posts: 2,527 ✭✭
    Here is my "family pic" of my 8802-style putters... Yeah, they can be a little addicting...



    Old stuff:
    1962 Tommy Armour AT2W Driver
    1953 Macgregor M65W EOM 3 wood
    1978 H&B PowerBilt Citation 4 wood
    1984 Ben Hogan Apex PC 2-E
    1968 Wilson Dual Wedge
    1964 Acushnet O-SET M6S Bullseye Putter

    New stuff
    Cobra ZL 10.5 driver
    Adams 5050 16 fairway wood
    Adams A2P 20* hybrid
    Titleist 716 MB irons 4-PW
    Callaway Mack Daddy wedges 52, 56, 60
    Scotty Cameron Pro Platinum Napa
  • ghoonkghoonk The Hoarder Members Posts: 215 ✭✭
    you guys are unreal. image/swoon.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':swoon:' />
    Srixon Z785 w/ stock Miyazaki Mahana (S) shaft
    Srizon F65 3w (15*) w/ stock Miyazaki Kaula (S)
    Srixon Z U85 20* driving iron
    Miura MC501 4-PW w/ TT S300 AMT White (S) shaft
    Miura 50*, 54*, 58* Forged black wedges w/ KBS Tour matt black wedge shafts
    Bettinardi Studio Stock #8 putter
  • NotZoroNotZoro Members Posts: 41 ✭✭
    Another 8802/napa style blade you can find on the cheap are the Walter Hagens...either his namesake model or the Gentle Ben by Crenshaw. You can find them in various condition on auction sites, so you might get lucky and find a mint one, or possibly one that can be refinished. Either way, they're worth it, especially if they come with the original stepped & fluted shaft. They're definitely on the lighter side, compared to more modern models, but once you get used to it, you might find, as I do, that distance control for anything over 15' is better.

    I'm a recovering putter-ho that's tried a lot of styles, from Spalding T.P. Mills #4, Ping B-60 Isopur, Ping Anser Milled #5, Cameron Newport 2, TaylorMade Spider Counter balanced, SeeMore OneCS, Odyssey Black Series #6, Odyssey 2-Ball White Hot & DX, Odyssey WhiteHot #9...ok, you get the point. But of all these excellent models, none have performed as well, felt as good or looked as pleasingly simple as my three 8802/napa style blades; the Hagen Gentle Ben, a Designed by Cleveland and an Odyssey Black Series #8. These are the last three putters I've acquired (all 2nd hand) and I only wish I'd tried them before spending so much time & $ on all the rest. I was foolishly under the impression that they're way too unforgiving & require far too much precision, considering they lacked the high MOI, heel-toe weighting, alignment aids, face insert technology etc etc. - but low and behold, I simply putt much better with this older and far simpler blade design. Only reason I decided to give them a try was after I stumbled upon some YouTube videos of Ben Crenshaw casually, smoothly sweeping putts as if he was just rolling balls out of his hand. First time I gave a blade a try, I kept that image of his syrupy stroke in my mind & it just felt free, mindless & natural. Not surprisingly, I thought less & less about my stroke or setup & started sinking more putts & when they didn't drop, most were left at tap in range. Here's wishing you'll find the same if not more success. cheers
  • ghoonkghoonk The Hoarder Members Posts: 215 ✭✭
    funny you mention that - i've noticed that as well. You can't strangle an 8802 and expect it to putt well. Light touch, take it back slowly, and let the shoulders do the work with a firm follow-through. After putting 30 balls with my SS6, I can putt with my Acushnet bullseye, SC AC3 flanged bullseye, Anser, Miura MGP-M3, MGP-NM1 (wife's), Betti BB1F, and even the TM Spider Tour center shafted



    The nice thing about your recommendation is that they are probably priced like the Acushnet Bullseyes that I picked up years ago for $25 to $50 a pop, depending on condition. Nothing too much to get fussed about the condition, but yeah, the fluted shafts are hard to beat. My super vintage bullseye putter is far softer to putt with compared to the Scotty American Classic III flanged which, in comparison to the bullseye and SS6, looks like quasimodo!
    Srixon Z785 w/ stock Miyazaki Mahana (S) shaft
    Srizon F65 3w (15*) w/ stock Miyazaki Kaula (S)
    Srixon Z U85 20* driving iron
    Miura MC501 4-PW w/ TT S300 AMT White (S) shaft
    Miura 50*, 54*, 58* Forged black wedges w/ KBS Tour matt black wedge shafts
    Bettinardi Studio Stock #8 putter
  • bazinozbazinoz Members Posts: 499 ✭✭
    dpark wrote:


    Here is my "family pic" of my 8802-style putters... Yeah, they can be a little addicting...







    Lovely family portrait.



    And all smiling nicely too image/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />
  • dparkdpark Members Posts: 2,527 ✭✭
    bazinoz wrote:

    dpark wrote:


    Here is my "family pic" of my 8802-style putters... Yeah, they can be a little addicting...







    Lovely family portrait.



    And all smiling nicely too image/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />




    Thank you.



    They're good kids overall. Some misbehave a bit at times, but with a "timeout" in a dark closet for a few months and their disposition improves image/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />
    Old stuff:
    1962 Tommy Armour AT2W Driver
    1953 Macgregor M65W EOM 3 wood
    1978 H&B PowerBilt Citation 4 wood
    1984 Ben Hogan Apex PC 2-E
    1968 Wilson Dual Wedge
    1964 Acushnet O-SET M6S Bullseye Putter

    New stuff
    Cobra ZL 10.5 driver
    Adams 5050 16 fairway wood
    Adams A2P 20* hybrid
    Titleist 716 MB irons 4-PW
    Callaway Mack Daddy wedges 52, 56, 60
    Scotty Cameron Pro Platinum Napa
  • DrJACOBDrJACOB Members Posts: 170 ✭✭
    Misc1600 wrote:


    What’s difference in a TP Mills 1 vs a 8802




    The overall size of the putter head (Length mostly) is smaller on an 8802. The "One" will have some extra weight in the heel behind shaft/neck. The 8802 is a true heel shafted putter. Other differences however these are the biggest to notice.



    Both look similar in that they have weight behind the entire face (angled flange) and a flat post. There is typically lots of toe hang. Looking from above similar at address.
    TM M1 10.5 with Graphite Design Tour AD DI 8X
    Ping Stretch 13* with Graphite Design Tour AD DI 7X
    Titlesit 910H 19*
    Miura Bades 4-PW
    Miura Wedges 51,55,59
    Callaway PM 64
    BB2 or at least one of my 8802 style putters
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