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  • BogeyPutt34BogeyPutt34 Members Posts: 64 ✭✭
    I apologize in advance if I’m repeating anything someone else has already said since I didn’t read through all of the replies.



    Where to begin....



    This year my intended approach to golf was to be a transition year and start doing things the “proper” way. So I understand your frustration in feeling like you’re just spinning your wheels and want to give up on a daily basis.



    There are three things I did this year that really helped me out more than anything I’ve ever done previously. The first was having someone record my swing so I could see what I was actually doing. As we all know feel and real are two completely different things most of the time.

    The second was focus on short game, 100 yards in was probably what I worked on more than anything else. I’ve always had issues with ball striking, mostly hitting behind the ball. This has helped me immensely. If I can’t go to the range I’ll chip balls into the couch.

    The last one was going to a grass range and never hit off a mat ever again. For myself, hitting off a mat was giving me inaccurate feedback and a false sense of hope for my ball striking abilities.



    I also have chronic back issues, several degenerating discs in my lower back. You just accept the fact that some days you’re going to be good, some not so good. Hope this helps
  • playaplaya Advanced Members Posts: 8,689 ✭✭
    edited November 2018
    Temple90 wrote:

    FourTops wrote:

    Temple90 wrote:


    I have attempted to start playing golf for the last three years and have just started taking it more seriously this past summer. I have been going to the driving range and taking lessons with a course pro.



    So far I have taken six lessons and I feel like my progress has been very slow. I understand that it will not be linear, but at times I feel like I am barely making any progress. For example, some lessons I am hitting awesome balls with minor form mistakes, but when I go to the range I can't hit a single ball well.

    So far i am only practicing with irons and find that I am struggling significantly with the longer irons.

    To add I have prior back issues (herniation) so my lower back is very tight. Makes for some discomfort during the swing, but never any pain.



    Anyone have any advice? I want to continue going, but it is discouraging feeling like I am not getting anywhere with it.




    OK. So when i first started playing the piano....it took me about 6 months to play basic scales without looking...and to a metronome. There were days that my progress reversed....the "I quit' days....then suddenly a break-through. But one thing I found was to NOT self-teach and get into bad habits because it's 100X harder to unwind. Find a teacher and just absorb...don't question every move.




    I have been taking lessons weekly. Unfortunately I do not think I am absorbing what is coming through.


    Taking some lessons is essential early in your golfing life, but the right teacher is crucial. No two teachers are the same, and they can't all be right with such opposing methods. I have seen some golfers destroyed by the wrong teachers, and it even happens on tour. My personal opinion is to go get lessons for the fundamentals (grip, set up, stance, ball position, posture etc) cause most teachers are pretty much in agreeance on this and it is so important, but after that have an open mind and go to you tube to cherry pick things you like and try to find a swing that suits your body type, age, talent, flexibility etc. Hogan always said the secret was in the dirt, meaning hard work and figuring it out yourself beats tips and quick fixes.
  • bladehunterbladehunter Today was a good day.... Advanced Members Posts: 24,231 ✭✭


    Golf isn't a sprint, but a marathon. It can't be forced or measured moment by moment. Even the pros speak often of being patient and letting opportunities come to them rather than forcing them to happen. Enjoy the journey. Stay dedicated and persistent and you will improve.




    best advice yet ...





    realize that it cannot be fast .... no chance... Once i got over this idea and just let whatever happened happen , i started to find "my swing'... its there... maybe great , maybe average ..but its there... but theres no shortcut to find it ... You have to earn it ... Thats part of what makes this game the greatest game ever invented by humans ....
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  • DFinchDFinch Advanced Members Posts: 1,330 ✭✭
    Temple90 wrote:


    I have attempted to start playing golf for the last three years and have just started taking it more seriously this past summer. I have been going to the driving range and taking lessons with a course pro.



    So far I have taken six lessons and I feel like my progress has been very slow. I understand that it will not be linear, but at times I feel like I am barely making any progress. For example, some lessons I am hitting awesome balls with minor form mistakes, but when I go to the range I can't hit a single ball well.

    So far i am only practicing with irons and find that I am struggling significantly with the longer irons.

    To add I have prior back issues (herniation) so my lower back is very tight. Makes for some discomfort during the swing, but never any pain.



    Anyone have any advice? I want to continue going, but it is discouraging feeling like I am not getting anywhere with it.




    We almost all struggle significantly with the longer irons. Jumping to long irons is a recipe for frustration.



    You have some sessions where you hit the ball well. That's progress. Focus on that. You are going to have periods of time where it feels hopeless. Golf is hard, made harder by the constant battle between conscious, technical thoughts and your natural, unconscious ability to swing a stick or throw a ball.
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  • nlk10010nlk10010 Advanced Members Posts: 301
    silver504 wrote:


    From my personal experience, I didn't see progress until I started playing more golf and spending less time at the range. I used to spend 2 to 4 hours at the range 2 to 3 times a week the first 5 years. I could not bring my range game to the course. Then I just started playing more golf and time practicing was on chipping and putting. I hope this helps. I know everyone is different.




    I couldn't agree more.



    OP: One thing I didn't see (maybe I missed it) is an answer to the question: What exactly is it that is frustrating you? By that I mean: Are you upset the shots you hit don't go far or look good, are you upset that you can't take your range game to the course, are you upset that you can't score well once on the course? What would "progress" look like to you?



    I heartily endorse the idea of more course, less range; my attitude used to be "I'll get my swing straight FIRST by doing just range, THEN I'll hit the course and go low". Doesn't work like that (or at least didn't for me): The range is quite a bit different than the course. The mats (if that's what they have) disguise fat shots and even moreso the mental approach to each shot is completely different. Patronize 9-hole or par-3 courses (I have some here which are $9/round and aren't very crowded). If you can hit the ball well THERE (e.g. when each shot counts) THEN you're making progress. Not that ranges are useless, you just have to know how to use them, IMO.



    Finally, a piece of advice that may get me hectored, but I used to refuse to hit woods or driver until I could "hit my irons right". Sound familiar? An instructor of no great renown (actually, at one of those county 9-holers) told me I was playing "p***y golf". He said it was a "completely different game" when your second shot is a short iron than it is when you hit the ball 120 yards off the tee and have another 150-200 to the green. He insisted that I start hitting a 5-wood, then graduate to a 3-wood then to a driver. Did I improve much? Well, many of the issues plaguing my swing in general reared their ugly heads with woods, but I COULD hit them much further than irons and my second shots weren't as much of a disaster. Just a thought.



    Good Luck.
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  • MountainGoatMountainGoat Advanced Members Posts: 1,500 ✭✭
    The whole point of the game, and its only cultural value, is to train you to deal with the frustrations of the game’s fundamental unfairness. It’s a metaphor for life and teaches you to face triumph and disaster with the same even temperament. Your score is largely irrelevant.
  • cb24cb24 Advanced Members Posts: 1,689 ✭✭


    This is a game that chews you up and spits you out, kicks your a** and takes no prisoners. Even Tiger is not immune. And yet for every 10 balls we put in the woods, for every f bomb we drop, every once in awhile we hit a cut 5 iron to 4 feet and walk up to the green imagining the “usually reserved Augusta crowd on its feet in appreciation”



    Now I understand that in your case, you might be aways away from ”cut 5 irons,” but simple, more modest goals can be your ”Augusta moment”. That might be ”hit an 8-iron 100 yards” or a pure contact with a 5 iron. When I was learning my dad said I couldn’t play on a course until I could hit a ball 150 yards. That became my big goal, and I can still remember the day that ball soared over the tire with the 150 painted on it.



    So keep working on it. For more instant results try a hybrid with a ball teed up about 1/4” just to get contact/ball flying. If it gets frustrating, take a break, head to the putting green, etc.



    And I think the most important thing: it’s ok to give up on any given day, as long you come back to try again. Enjoy the pursuit, I have for 19 years, and Im only 23.




    Good advice.



    OP, just know this is the most fun and frustrating game ever. I was down to a +2.5 with way too much timing and hand eye coordination. Once I stopped playing as much my handicap went back to around a 1. Then got injured and it started to balloon on me. I am getting back to full healthy and finally hitting the ball well and I am actually hitting with the right form. Wish I had listed when I started 9 years ago, but stick with solid funaamentals and practice the short game like crazy and you will be improving in no time.





    Good Luck OP
  • Tanner25Tanner25 Advanced Members Posts: 6,121 ✭✭
    edited December 2018
    Great, advice from sixytsomeping. enjoy the game. Golf is a great escape from the daily grind. On the technical side, what clubs are you using? There's a big difference between Cleveland Launcher HB irons and TM P790.
  • LifeStoryLifeStory Advanced Members Posts: 292 ✭✭
    jslane57 wrote:


    Try not to evaluate yourself on every single shot. Let the bad happen. Let the good happen. Are you getting enough practice time in to where you go to your next lesson ready to learn more, or are you covering the same thing over and over? Maybe space your lessons out a bit, no need to pay an instructor to watch you practice. I liked the Tiger gif, I remember seeing that on TV. If Tiger can give himself a pass, maybe we should all be able to do the same...




    lol welcome to golf.
  • FourTopsFourTops Banned Posts: 1,676
    edited December 2018
    What I often do is count "good shots" regardless of score. A good shot can mean all kinds of things, but IMO for beginners it's a shot you hit decently towards your intended target. It can be any shot...even putts. I suggest keeping track of good shots and see your progress. The nice part about this is you can still shoot 104, but maybe you had 30% good shots vs. 25% shooting 99 the last round. There's always good shots with bad outcomes...count those. If you strike the ball well on a par 3 but miss the green, count the well-struck ball as a good shot. Don't penalize yourself with the score.
  • ClambakeClambake Advanced Members Posts: 602 ✭✭
    "Beginner frustrated with golf"? LOL. You could really put "Beginner/Intermediate/Advanced/Pro frustrated at golf (Please circle one)" and you cover pretty much anyone who has ever played this game.



    Golf is endlessly complicated and difficult, requiring the player to use almost every muscle in their body with microsecond timing, most shots played from varying conditions in varying weather. It is a difficult game, and one that vexes even the world's best athletes. Think of this for a moment: No one has every heard of golf before, and someone told you that you are going to hit a tiny ball with a 3 to 4 foot long stick and in only 4 or sometimes 3 swings of that stick you'll knock that ball into a tiny hole in the ground a quarter mile away. You'd say that's impossible - no one could ever do that! Yet almost every one of us has, at some point, played shots that equal the best in the world and accomplished that impossible task. And the best in the world have all played shots about as bad as ours at times. That's what makes this such a great game. It constantly changes and challenges us, and we will never conquer it but we can occasionally sniff at perfection when playing it.



    I think you'll find that if you shift your attitude about learning and playing the game to one where you embrace and enjoy the process of learning and getting better instead of trying to focus so much on the outcome, especially as a beginner, you'll enjoy the game much more. Probably most of us have been down the rabbit hole of focusing so much on the result and our bad shots, and when one instead enjoys the process of incremental improvement (even with the occasional step backwards), the game rewards one in ways that are tough to describe to non-golfer. Enjoy the journey more than the destination.
  • andrueandrue Advanced Members Posts: 1,092 ✭✭
    Clambake wrote:
    And the best in the world have all played shots about as bad as ours at times.
    Yeah. I remember a couple of years ago watching golf and one of the pros hit a nasty slice into a pond. Peter Aliss' commentary was priceless. "Ooh, what a shocker!" image/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />
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  • designpunkdesignpunk Advanced Members Posts: 118
    Temple90 wrote:


    I have attempted to start playing golf for the last three years and have just started taking it more seriously this past summer. I have been going to the driving range and taking lessons with a course pro.



    So far I have taken six lessons and I feel like my progress has been very slow. I understand that it will not be linear, but at times I feel like I am barely making any progress. For example, some lessons I am hitting awesome balls with minor form mistakes, but when I go to the range I can't hit a single ball well.

    So far i am only practicing with irons and find that I am struggling significantly with the longer irons.

    To add I have prior back issues (herniation) so my lower back is very tight. Makes for some discomfort during the swing, but never any pain.



    Anyone have any advice? I want to continue going, but it is discouraging feeling like I am not getting anywhere with it.




    Learn to make good contact with a chip. Even if it's in the garden. Then progress to a longer chip, a pitch etc.



    Trying to stripe a 5 iron before you can hit a clean pitch is just going to be painful.



    And if you're coach hasn't improved you in 6 weeks, I'd get another, or just watch youtube videos etc.
  • shoot4parshoot4par Life's A Course ClubWRX Charter Members Posts: 127
    edited December 2018
    Keep this in mind.... it takes 1000 conscious, "correct" swings to implement a single swing thought. Evaluate your practice and progress based on the metric. Also evaluate whose teaching you. Are they helping you progress? Do they have proven success?
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  • RobertBaronRobertBaron Advanced Members Posts: 721 ✭✭
    Temple90 wrote:


    For example, some lessons I am hitting awesome balls with minor form mistakes, but when I go to the range I can't hit a single ball well.




    That’s golf for ya! (You’ll kinda get used to it. Rather, you’ll accept that it will happen)




    So far i am only practicing with irons and find that I am struggling significantly with the longer irons.




    Sounds like you need to bring only 1 club with you to practice and it should be a PW or a 9 iron. Practice with that 1 club until you develop a consistent swing that finds the center of the face. Once you feel comfortable with that 1 club, move on to the next or skip 1 ahead. So go from PW to 8 iron and same thing. Work the next club like you did the last then move on.



    It’ll take time. Months probably of consistent, constructive practice before you’re able to hit the whole bag with some level of consistency. But don’t get too discouraged if you can’t get to the long irons. They’re generally the hardest clubs for most ams to hit. If I were just starting out like you all over again, knowing what I know now, I wouldn’t even bag anything over a 6i until you’re scoring in the low-mid 90s with regularity. Then move onto a 5 when you’re in the high 80s. Then a 4. But for the most part, you’re probably better off with hybrids by this point. The game is hard enough as it is.


    Anyone have any advice? I want to continue going, but it is discouraging feeling like I am not getting anywhere with it.




    Well like others have said, it takes time and practice. Lots of time and practice. And lessons and study. In the early stages of learning it’s important to have a good eye watching you swing because if you don’t, you’ll probably discover some bad habits like flipping to get the ball in the air. Also video your swing frequently and compare it to swings you see of pros on YouTube. You don’t have to emulate a swing perfectly, but it’s good way to measure set up, swing plane, impact positions, shoulder turn.



    But really it just takes time. And honestly, golf is probably one of the most difficult sports to learn. I’ve been playing probably 30 years now, and it can still be incredibly frustrating. You just can’t give in and give up. You’ll have your ups and downs, but I think for most golfers it’s more about the journey than the destination.
  • Man_O_WarMan_O_War Advanced Members Posts: 2,662 ✭✭
    find a good teacher in your area...stick with them. It will save you wasted time and money if you consider you will be playing for life.

    This coming from a self taught player who was once a +1
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  • wmblake2000wmblake2000 Advanced Members Posts: 5,434 ✭✭
    Seems like a bunch of people have commented but op has vanished
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  • FourTopsFourTops Banned Posts: 1,676


    Seems like a bunch of people have commented but op has vanished




    Ultimately it's really not a true question from some. I follow my threads to the point of boring people to keyboard-tears.
  • KMeloneyKMeloney Advanced Members Posts: 4,713 ✭✭
    Has the OP come back to this thread since starting it?
  • FourTopsFourTops Banned Posts: 1,676
    Answer.....QUIT. OY VEY! Like we need another complainer who backs up the course?
  • JustsomeguyJustsomeguy Advanced Members Posts: 928
    Maybe a week isn't enough time to deduce a quitter.

    Besides- who could quit this game? Are we not all born masochists?
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  • Temple90Temple90 Members Posts: 21
    I have not vanished! I have been practicing and really appreciate all of the comments. My biggest issue was that I was swinging down on the ball (too steep) instead of through the ball.

    I was on the fence of too steep vs okay downswing and had days where I could hit some decent shots and other days where I topped the ball hit off the toe or completely missed. Since practicing shallowing out my downswing I have been able to hit some better shots, but it is by far the hardest part of golf for me.

    What I do now is practice on my patio with soft balls and a turf piece.



    I am about 4 months and 9 lessons in. I'm sticking with it!
  • Temple90Temple90 Members Posts: 21
    Also wanted to add that I really appreciate everyones' advice and honesty. This forum is the best. I have received a lot of really good info here.
  • llewol007llewol007 4KidsGolfer ClubWRX Charter Members Posts: 3,354 ClubWRX
    Change your Mindset or else you will never be happy. Yes it is a frustrating game and will not come overnight. Stick with it. I would say hit up you tube and get your short game as solid as it can be while you are building your full swing. There are enough great instructors of the short game that if you work on that half of the game on your own, you are cutting your learning time by days and weeks. Keep going.
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  • andrueandrue Advanced Members Posts: 1,092 ✭✭
    edited January 6
    Your swing will eventually sort itself out. It took me a year but I wasn't as assiduous as you sound about practising, plus I didn't bother with many lessons at first and tried to tough it out on my own. I remember the grief of not being able to make decent contact with the ball reliably and it wasn't fun.



    Of course there's still a big gap between where I am now (nearly always make good contact with the ball) and where I'd like to be (the ball usually goes roughly where I intend it to) but when you can reliably get the ball off the ground and a useful distance away from where it was the game becomes more fun. It can still be frustrating but I think at that point you're past the worst of it. I just keep reminding myself that golf is going to be my retirement hobby so I don't want to have it all worked out too soon. Need to have something to work on over the remaining decades of my life image/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />
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    Remember it’s a skill game, you will see a lot of stuff about you need X, Y, Z but in reality you need to get out there, learn some of the basics and then see how you can push them.
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  • rangersgoalierangersgoalie Advanced Members Posts: 1,729 ✭✭
    Temple90 wrote:


    I have attempted to start playing golf for the last three years and have just started taking it more seriously this past summer. I have been going to the driving range and taking lessons with a course pro.



    So far I have taken six lessons and I feel like my progress has been very slow. I understand that it will not be linear, but at times I feel like I am barely making any progress. For example, some lessons I am hitting awesome balls with minor form mistakes, but when I go to the range I can't hit a single ball well.

    So far i am only practicing with irons and find that I am struggling significantly with the longer irons.

    To add I have prior back issues (herniation) so my lower back is very tight. Makes for some discomfort during the swing, but never any pain.



    Anyone have any advice? I want to continue going, but it is discouraging feeling like I am not getting anywhere with it.




    Are you really not making any progress? Or just not as quickly as you feel you are capable of?

    Some of the toughest students I’ve had are people who played really well, and left the game to work or raise families. They come back and it’s still very prominent in their mind how good they WERE, not who they are today. If you can start every week trying to improve from where you honestly are, and improve from there, even in small increments, you are making progress.



    Sometimes improvement can simply be understanding something better, and will not show immediate results



    In a nutshell,mthe game sucks, it’s hard, frustrating, and rarely makes sense........it’s why so many love it!, and drink after they play!
  • GSDriverGSDriver Advanced Members Posts: 551 ✭✭
    Remember this fact, golf is hard.



    Have to set realistic goals, based on your commitment to improvement and what you want out of the game.



    When starting out, it's easiest to improve. The better you get (lower your handicap) the harder it is to shave strokes.



    The average male handicap is something like 17, with less than 20% (going off memory, so might not be spot on) being single digit handicaps, so give yourself some time....then again, there's always TopGolf if run out of patience.
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  • Temple90Temple90 Members Posts: 21
    Thanks for the advice. I went in for another lesson and am finally starting to make progress on flattening out my downswing. I was swinging from outside in so there would be some good swings followed by slices and completely missing the ball.

    What I am focusing on now is keeping my back elbow tight to my body during downswing and keeping it from internally rotating. When it internally rotates I come down on the ball. I was able to hit about 35/50 balls much better after focusing on the rear elbow. I think that is making me shallow out my swing and also hit from the inside.

    Now to keep practicing and improve on that.
  • glkglk send it in jerome Advanced Members Posts: 3,229 ✭✭
    As a beginner (and actually at pretty much any level), consider doing one arm swings, both righty and lefty. Short, only need to go back to club shaft parallel. Trains what the arms/body/shoulders should do in the release.



    After hitting the ball can put other arm on club and both should be straight. Can do them supported at first - example, gently hold your trail elbow with your lead hand.



    Here's one example of just right arm.

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  • Lincoln_ArcadiaLincoln_Arcadia We're supposed to be having fun here...yeah, right. Advanced Members Posts: 543
    Temple90 wrote:
    I have attempted to start playing golf for the last three years and have just started taking it more seriously this past summer. I have been going to the driving range and taking lessons with a course pro.



    So far I have taken six lessons and I feel like my progress has been very slow. I understand that it will not be linear, but at times I feel like I am barely making any progress. For example, some lessons I am hitting awesome balls with minor form mistakes, but when I go to the range I can't hit a single ball well.

    So far i am only practicing with irons and find that I am struggling significantly with the longer irons.

    To add I have prior back issues (herniation) so my lower back is very tight. Makes for some discomfort during the swing, but never any pain.



    Anyone have any advice? I want to continue going, but it is discouraging feeling like I am not getting anywhere with it.




    3 years is nothing. Most people see real improvements after 5 years. It’s all in the swing. Once you get a decent swing, your scores will drop right away. At the very least, you will at least feel like you’re playing golf as opposed to paddling the ball down the fairways.



    Keep working on your swing and swing speed. The longer you hold off improving your swing the longer it will take for you to improve.
  • Temple90Temple90 Members Posts: 21
    I have taken about 7 lessons and I can barely make contact with the ball anymore and every time I do make contact it is off the very toe of the club.

    I know what i'm doing wrong, but can stop doing it wrong. I am also having a hard time slowing down my swing. If I get a full back swing it is hard to slow down my swing.

    In an attempt to try to hit from center of face of club, I also started topping the ball, so now I have two issues to fix.



    All of these issues stem from the fact that I am pulling down and across through the ball so my arms are closer to my body and club face is further from ball then when I started.



    At least now I understand exactly what I am doing wrong so that I can focus on correcting it.
  • KMeloneyKMeloney Advanced Members Posts: 4,713 ✭✭
    Did you ever say with whom you're taking lessons?
  • BB28403BB28403 Advanced Members Posts: 2,723 ✭✭
    Temple90 wrote:
    I have taken about 7 lessons and I can barely make contact with the ball anymore and every time I do make contact it is off the very toe of the club.

    I know what i'm doing wrong, but can stop doing it wrong. I am also having a hard time slowing down my swing. If I get a full back swing it is hard to slow down my swing.

    In an attempt to try to hit from center of face of club, I also started topping the ball, so now I have two issues to fix.



    All of these issues stem from the fact that I am pulling down and across through the ball so my arms are closer to my body and club face is further from ball then when I started.



    At least now I understand exactly what I am doing wrong so that I can focus on correcting it.




    Are you working on any golf related fitness by chance? Perhaps your body struggles to stay in Posistion
  • DFinchDFinch Advanced Members Posts: 1,330 ✭✭
    Temple90 wrote:


    I have taken about 7 lessons and I can barely make contact with the ball anymore and every time I do make contact it is off the very toe of the club.

    I know what i'm doing wrong, but can stop doing it wrong. I am also having a hard time slowing down my swing. If I get a full back swing it is hard to slow down my swing.

    In an attempt to try to hit from center of face of club, I also started topping the ball, so now I have two issues to fix.



    All of these issues stem from the fact that I am pulling down and across through the ball so my arms are closer to my body and club face is further from ball then when I started.



    At least now I understand exactly what I am doing wrong so that I can focus on correcting it.




    When you say you know what you're doing wrong, is that your analysis or your instructor?



    Going from toe strikes to thin shots suggest it's a posture thing, not a "arms too close to the body" thing. That would be easy to test by simply standing slightly closer.



    Toe shots can be caused by standing too far away or an out to in swing, but early extension or raising the handle on the downswing are more common.



    Work on impact with smaller swings. Get a solid setup position (check everything). Don't slow down a full swing, smoothly accelerate a partial swing. Work on it until you find the center again. Then slowly add length.
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  • Temple90Temple90 Members Posts: 21
    KMeloney wrote:


    Did you ever say with whom you're taking lessons?




    I am taking lessons with a course pro. They seem to be helping, but I think I am just overthinking each swing at this point.

    BB28403 wrote:

    Temple90 wrote:
    I have taken about 7 lessons and I can barely make contact with the ball anymore and every time I do make contact it is off the very toe of the club.

    I know what i'm doing wrong, but can stop doing it wrong. I am also having a hard time slowing down my swing. If I get a full back swing it is hard to slow down my swing.

    In an attempt to try to hit from center of face of club, I also started topping the ball, so now I have two issues to fix.



    All of these issues stem from the fact that I am pulling down and across through the ball so my arms are closer to my body and club face is further from ball then when I started.



    At least now I understand exactly what I am doing wrong so that I can focus on correcting it.




    Are you working on any golf related fitness by chance? Perhaps your body struggles to stay in Posistion




    I am really into fitness and do a lot of woodchoppers and similar exercises that translate over into a golf swing. I do have a tight lower back which can cause issues.
  • Temple90Temple90 Members Posts: 21
    DFinch wrote:

    Temple90 wrote:


    I have taken about 7 lessons and I can barely make contact with the ball anymore and every time I do make contact it is off the very toe of the club.

    I know what i'm doing wrong, but can stop doing it wrong. I am also having a hard time slowing down my swing. If I get a full back swing it is hard to slow down my swing.

    In an attempt to try to hit from center of face of club, I also started topping the ball, so now I have two issues to fix.



    All of these issues stem from the fact that I am pulling down and across through the ball so my arms are closer to my body and club face is further from ball then when I started.



    At least now I understand exactly what I am doing wrong so that I can focus on correcting it.




    When you say you know what you're doing wrong, is that your analysis or your instructor?



    Going from toe strikes to thin shots suggest it's a posture thing, not a "arms too close to the body" thing. That would be easy to test by simply standing slightly closer.



    Toe shots can be caused by standing too far away or an out to in swing, but early extension or raising the handle on the downswing are more common.



    Work on impact with smaller swings. Get a solid setup position (check everything). Don't slow down a full swing, smoothly accelerate a partial swing. Work on it until you find the center again. Then slowly add length.




    Thank you for the advice. My problem is an in to out downswing which leads to my hands being significantly closer to my body on the downswing then when I set up behind the ball. Sorry if I worded that confusingly. In an attempt to fix that issues I developed other issues like topping the ball. Hoping to get both of these issues taken care of.
  • glkglk send it in jerome Advanced Members Posts: 3,229 ✭✭
    My experience with course pros is that teaching is secondary to running the course/pro shop. Maybe 7 lessons in and frustrated says to consider changing instructors.

    Mark Sheftic is in the Philly area - teaches out of Merion in Ardmore. I really recommend him. He is the teaching pro and that is his focus - instruction. Along with his father, Ted,

    they have developed and sell the pressure board - he is coming out with a junior version in the near future and is now testing prototypes.



    Here is his website and you can see some of his video on the pressure board under that tab. http://myteachingpro.com/marksheftic/Home.aspx
  • KMeloneyKMeloney Advanced Members Posts: 4,713 ✭✭
    Temple90 wrote:


    I am taking lessons with a course pro. They seem to be helping, but I think I am just overthinking each swing at this point.




    You've said that already. Do you just not want to reveal his name or something?



    Like glk said, Sheftic is fantastic. Your guy may be fantastic, too -- it's just that no one can say, because we don't know who it is.
  • SparklehorseSparklehorse Members Posts: 34
    edited February 6
    If I could start all over again, I would have concentrated on learning the short game first with chipping and short pitches just improving my club/ball contact , then working my way up slowly to quarter, half, full swings.
  • BB28403BB28403 Advanced Members Posts: 2,723 ✭✭
    I heard a quote someone made the other day , something like this

    “In Golf the Golf Course is designed to beat you, you are meant to lose. Knowing that before you begin helps a lot. Do the best you can everyday! Just don’t beat yourself up because you can never beat the course”
  • Temple90Temple90 Members Posts: 21
    BB28403 wrote:


    I heard a quote someone made the other day , something like this

    “In Golf the Golf Course is designed to beat you, you are meant to lose. Knowing that before you begin helps a lot. Do the best you can everyday! Just don’t beat yourself up because you can never beat the course”




    That's a great quote! very accurate.
  • sbarksbark Advanced Members Posts: 224
    Jimmy Ballard method.....one swing , takes most of the body part hinges out of the equation



    Get the right elbow in front of the hip
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