Is the 4i on it’s last leg?

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  • GolfTurkeyGolfTurkey Members Posts: 542 ✭✭
    edited Dec 7, 2018 #32


    I am a low handicapper who plays a four hybrid. Makes total sense. Easier to hit, more consistent and forgiving. Higher launch to hold greens...



    Take the ego out of play and a hybrid makes more sense in all forms in my opinion.




    This is or was my thinking exactly and for whatever reason i burned way too much money trying to find a hybrid I could hit. Wood style hybrids, iron style hybrids, nothing worked.



    I would happily game 14 Alien Wedges if it lowered my scores and I had a 9 wood for a while. I picked up a little speed and changed my swing a bit and became terribly inconsistent with the 9W. I duff my 4 iron sometimes but at least I duff it pretty straight. I struck hybrids and the 9W more consistently solid but direction could be appalling. Earlier this year I missed a par 3 with my 9W pin high left...by 68 yards!
  • pheenomz4774pheenomz4774 Members Posts: 894 ✭✭
    bodhi555 wrote:
    Don't think so, it might end up with a different number on the bottom, but don't see it going anywhere.




    This. There will mostly always be a 38” 22-24 degree loft iron in most players bags. As for what number it says on the bottom, who knows?
    Back to all Ping...
    G400 Driver 9.0°
    G30 3 Wood 15.5°, G 5 Wood 18.5°
    i210 4 - PW
    Glide 50°/54° SS, 58° ES
    Sigma 2 Valor (B.ig U.gly M.allet)
  • ChipNRunChipNRun Members Posts: 1,173 ✭✭
    Pheenom may be channeling club designer Tom Wishon on this. Wishon has the 24/38 rule: The average golfer can't hit an iron shot off the deck with a club that has less than 24° loft and more than a 38-inch shaft.



    In my three wedge set-up (see below), sometimes I carry a 4W, a 4H and a 4i. My old Calla X20 Tour 4i was good as a driving iron on really tight holes, and on longish par 3 holes where a 4H could fly the green.



    On my new TE CB Pro irons, I'm still working on consistency with the 22° 4i. With a hollow iron head, this 4i goes about 190 yds. off a tee, and about 180 off the deck. This bumps into the low end of my 4H yardage.



    In my former four wedge set-up, I would often vary 4i or 4H depending upon the course I was playing. On tighter courses, especially those with a couple of short par 4s from ****, I would choose the 4i as a driving iron. I gave up a little distance without the 4H, but avoided directional disasters on tight holes.



    On wider open courses, the more versatile 4H would go in the bag.



    For fellow golfers... when the 4i is iffy but sometimes really good, consider softstepping the shaft to help out with launch. Or, a hybrid shaft (if .370" parallel tip hosel) or a graphite shaft can do the same.



    A veteran clubsmith told me that, years ago, he would always softstep the 2i and 3i shafts without telling his customers.
    What's In The Bag *...

    Driver: Calla XR16 Pro 10.5° (set open) / Fuji Evolution II TS Speeder 665 R-flex 63 gr.
    FWs: Tour Edge XRail 4W + 7W / GraphiteDesign G60 R-flex 60 gr.
    or Calla Alpha 815, set 16° + 20° / Fuji Motore Speeder 665 R-flex 62 gr.
    Hybrid: Cobra FlyZ 3H 19° + 4H 22° / Matrix VLCT Altus Lite flex 73 gr.
    Irons: Tour Edge CB Pro Tungsten 4i - PW** / KBS Tour 90 R-flex 95 gr. (As of 21 Nov 2018)
    Wedge: Calla MD3 48°/8.SS + 54°/12.WS +
    MD.PM 60°/10 / KBS Tour R-flex 110 gr. |
    Putter: Slotline Inertial SL-583F / 34" w. SuperStroke 2.0 MidSlim grip
    Bag: Sun Mountain Three 5 stand bag
    Ball: Calla SuperSoft
    * Either 7W or 3H left out, depending on course.
    ** Wedges: 46°and 48°are competing for bag space.
  • @_the_crook@_the_crook Members Posts: 609 ✭✭
    current set:



    3i, 21*, 38.75,

    4i, 23.5*, 38.25,



    sometimes a 20* hybrid makes sense though I'd rather hit the irons.
    currently playing:
    Steelhead III , FT-5 - D
    Warbirds, 3+, 4
    Hogan BH-5, 3-PW
    Wilson DynaPowered SW
    Ping Anser
    it works

    when I need a change, there are 12 bags full to choose from .
  • Matt97GTMatt97GT Members Posts: 450 ✭✭
    I probably used my 4 iron more for punching out from trees or when blocked than actually full shots.



    I can hit it pretty good, but the new 818 hybrid is just easier.
  • mukstermukster Is this the year? North of the 49thMembers Posts: 3,478 ✭✭
    I have both 4H and 4 iron. I specifically got my 4i in the Z585 vs. my irons in the z765s, as I wanted as much forgiveness in it as possible. When it gets sloppy up here, I put in the 4 hybrid. It is an old Nickent, but it has a nice enough Proforce V2 shaft. It seems to perform better in the wet conditions.

    My 4 iron has been good and especially in the light of my recent swing changes, it will stay in the bag. I went for a wedge lesson and this has translated to all my irons, include No. 4.
    Callaway XR16 driver, 9 degrees, Diamana S+ shaft
    Callaway Epic Subzero 13.5, Mitsubishi Fubuki Z 65
    Mizuno ST180 5 wood, Tensei Blue shaft
    Nickent 3D 3 hybrid, generic shaft
    Srixon Z765 5-PW irons, KBS Tour V shafts
    Cleveland CBX 50* wedge
    Hogan Equalizer 54* wedge
    Mizuno S18 58* wedge
    Nike Method Core Drone 2.0 putter
  • anthanth From the Land Down Under Members Posts: 2,763 ✭✭
    GolfTurkey wrote:



    I am a low handicapper who plays a four hybrid. Makes total sense. Easier to hit, more consistent and forgiving. Higher launch to hold greens...



    Take the ego out of play and a hybrid makes more sense in all forms in my opinion.




    This is or was my thinking exactly and for whatever reason i burned way too much money trying to find a hybrid I could hit. Wood style hybrids, iron style hybrids, nothing worked.



    I would happily game 14 Alien Wedges if it lowered my scores and I had a 9 wood for a while. I picked up a little speed and changed my swing a bit and became terribly inconsistent with the 9W. I duff my 4 iron sometimes but at least I duff it pretty straight. I struck hybrids and the 9W more consistently solid but direction could be appalling. Earlier this year I missed a par 3 with my 9W pin high left...by 68 yards!




    Yep definitely the hybrid’s fault



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    Callaway Rogue 10.5
    Callaway BB Alpha 816 16
    Srixon Z H45 19 Hybrid
    Srixon Z U45 23 Utility
    Srixon Z 765/965 5 - PW
    TaylorMade Milled Grind 50 & 54
    TaylorMade Milled Grind Hi Toe 58
    TaylorMade Spider Tour Red
    TaylorMade TP5
  • GolfTurkeyGolfTurkey Members Posts: 542 ✭✭
    anth wrote:

    GolfTurkey wrote:



    I am a low handicapper who plays a four hybrid. Makes total sense. Easier to hit, more consistent and forgiving. Higher launch to hold greens...



    Take the ego out of play and a hybrid makes more sense in all forms in my opinion.




    This is or was my thinking exactly and for whatever reason i burned way too much money trying to find a hybrid I could hit. Wood style hybrids, iron style hybrids, nothing worked.



    I would happily game 14 Alien Wedges if it lowered my scores and I had a 9 wood for a while. I picked up a little speed and changed my swing a bit and became terribly inconsistent with the 9W. I duff my 4 iron sometimes but at least I duff it pretty straight. I struck hybrids and the 9W more consistently solid but direction could be appalling. Earlier this year I missed a par 3 with my 9W pin high left...by 68 yards!




    Yep definitely the hybrid's fault



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    Absolutely, a hybrid once sat in the same bag as the 9W and infected it! At least the 9W miss somewhat resembled a golf shot, unlike my typical hybrid line drive tunnel-boring hook or push.



    And doesn't matter whose fault it is. I can continue to burn money and waste practice time on clubs that suit me better in theory or use those that I hit better with a tighter dispersion that lead to lower scores in practice.
  • WardmanWardman Members Posts: 180 ✭✭
    just ordered a 4i, taking out the 4 hybrid.
    EvenFlow Black Cobra F8+ Driver
    EvenFlow Black Ping G 3W
    EvenFlow Black Ping 3 and 4 G Hybrid
    KBS Tour 90 Stiff Ping iE1 5-U
    KBS Wedge Shaft Ping Glide 2.0 56 and 58 degree
    Bettinardi Queen B 9 Putter
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