Steve Stricker testing the New Callaway Flash driver

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  • grm24grm24 Western PAMembers Posts: 3,015 ✭✭
    Callaway used the green colorway on the Razr Fit Xtreme drivers from 4-5 years back.



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  • GSDriverGSDriver Members Posts: 580 ✭✭
    grm24 wrote:


    Callaway used the green colorway on the Razr Fit Xtreme drivers from 4-5 years back.



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    Still have a Tour Authentic RF Xtreme, was an impressive driver in its day.
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  • GSDriverGSDriver Members Posts: 580 ✭✭
    gripandrip wrote:


    Why? With the Rogue supposedly better than the current EPIC (why else would they bring it out... image/stink.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':stink:' /> ), why bring out another version of the old model? Is the sliding weight in the back that much in demand that they were losing sales with the non-sliding weight Rogue? I've never played a driver with the sliding weight... never saw the need, but that's just me.



    I have a older, "inferior" Epic Sub Zero. Wouldn't trade it for a Rogue... I prefer the EPIC SZ.




    IIRC the Rogue was introduced to improve 'forgiveness' as apparently some didn't find the Epic forgiving enough. I still play my Epic, didn't care for Rogue look at address so never bothered to hit one, but I will definitely be giving the Flash a test drive.
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  • pcs11pcs11 Members Posts: 1,151 ✭✭
    grm24 wrote:


    Callaway used the green colorway on the Razr Fit Xtreme drivers from 4-5 years back.



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    That thing was awesome. Also, it was one of the nicest looking drivers at address.
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  • BRM569BRM569 Hi Members Posts: 382 ✭✭
    I have an Epic Flash SZ head in my hands if anyone is interested in more pictures image/dntknw.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':dntknw:' />
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  • BRM569BRM569 Hi Members Posts: 382 ✭✭
    Double Gee wrote:

    3 Jack Par wrote:

    gripandrip wrote:


    Why? With the Rogue supposedly better than the current EPIC (why else would they bring it out... image/stink.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':stink:' /> ), why bring out another version of the old model? Is the sliding weight in the back that much in demand that they were losing sales with the non-sliding weight Rogue? I've never played a driver with the sliding weight... never saw the need, but that's just me.



    I have a older, "inferior" Epic Sub Zero. Wouldn't trade it for a Rogue... I prefer the EPIC SZ.


    The idea behind the Flash is more than just adding a sliding weight to an Epic SZ. The big difference is suppose to be the technology in the face. People who have tested it are claiming ~4 mph gains in ball speed. I haven't hit it, so I can't attest to the accuracy of these reports, but I'm interested to try it. Also, unless I'm mistaken, the Rogue line was supposed to be the replacement for the XR line, not the Epic. I believe the retail price for the Epic line wasn't dropped last year when the Rogue was introduced.




    Surely with the rules and regs about driver performance, how can extra mph be achieved?

    I understand extra speed away from centre but these claims from any manufacturers must be taken with a pinch of salt, surely ?






    It's all about "variable face thickness" with the Flash face. I've seen the back of it, it looks like a lumpy mess and seems to have no rhyme or reason as to why its thicker or thinner is some spots compared to others but Callaway basically told an IBM Watson (artificial intelligence) type super computer to develop a face the achieves the maximum ball speed across all areas of the face...and that's how we now have the "Flash Face"
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  • radimanradiman Members Posts: 4,638 ✭✭
    BRM569 wrote:


    I have an Epic Flash SZ head in my hands if anyone is interested in more pictures image/dntknw.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':dntknw:' />




    Uh, yes please? image/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />



    I would love to see a good quality pic of the crown and maybe even the face straight on to get an idea how deep it is. If it isn't too much trouble that is.
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  • SwingBluesSwingBlues We are the Old Dark Navy Blues Members Posts: 3,437 ✭✭
    BRM569 wrote:


    I have an Epic Flash SZ head in my hands if anyone is interested in more pictures image/dntknw.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':dntknw:' />




    Is the **** in weight in your EF SZ the same as in the Rogue SZ? What about the sliding weight, same back end as the Epic GBB? Can you check and compare them?
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  • BRM569BRM569 Hi Members Posts: 382 ✭✭
    Here you go. Let me know if there is another shot you want.



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  • radimanradiman Members Posts: 4,638 ✭✭
    BRM569 wrote:


    Here you go. Let me know if there is another shot you want.







    Awesome. Thanks a lot! Love the look at address. So much better than the Rogue SZ.
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  • gripandripgripandrip Members Posts: 962 ✭✭
    BRM569 wrote:

    Double Gee wrote:

    3 Jack Par wrote:

    gripandrip wrote:


    Why? With the Rogue supposedly better than the current EPIC (why else would they bring it out... image/stink.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':stink:' /> ), why bring out another version of the old model? Is the sliding weight in the back that much in demand that they were losing sales with the non-sliding weight Rogue? I've never played a driver with the sliding weight... never saw the need, but that's just me.



    I have a older, "inferior" Epic Sub Zero. Wouldn't trade it for a Rogue... I prefer the EPIC SZ.


    The idea behind the Flash is more than just adding a sliding weight to an Epic SZ. The big difference is suppose to be the technology in the face. People who have tested it are claiming ~4 mph gains in ball speed. I haven't hit it, so I can't attest to the accuracy of these reports, but I'm interested to try it. Also, unless I'm mistaken, the Rogue line was supposed to be the replacement for the XR line, not the Epic. I believe the retail price for the Epic line wasn't dropped last year when the Rogue was introduced.




    Surely with the rules and regs about driver performance, how can extra mph be achieved?

    I understand extra speed away from centre but these claims from any manufacturers must be taken with a pinch of salt, surely ?






    It's all about "variable face thickness" with the Flash face. I've seen the back of it, it looks like a lumpy mess and seems to have no rhyme or reason as to why its thicker or thinner is some spots compared to others but Callaway basically told an IBM Watson (artificial intelligence) type super computer to develop a face the achieves the maximum ball speed across all areas of the face...and that's how we now have the "Flash Face"




    I guess I will have to hit this and check it out. Thanks for all the insight. I got to agree with a few other posters that the color scheme is a bit "busy". (Nothing against the North Star fans! ... image/derisive.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':derisive:' /> )
  • Kenny Lee PuckettKenny Lee Puckett Members Posts: 3,460 ✭✭
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  •  SwooshLT SwooshLT Members Posts: 6,991 ✭✭
    BRM569 wrote:


    Here you go. Let me know if there is another shot you want.









    Thank you for the pics! This looks amazing.....says sub zero on head; will there be a std head?
  • BRM569BRM569 Hi Members Posts: 382 ✭✭
    SwooshLT wrote:

    BRM569 wrote:


    Here you go. Let me know if there is another shot you want.









    Thank you for the pics! This looks amazing.....says sub zero on head; will there be a std head?




    Yes, both now have the sliding weight.



    One thing to note is the SZ head came with a heavier weight for the track system. Not sure exactly of what it weighs but can throw it on a gram scale later.
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  • WarrickWarrick ClubWRX Posts: 10,246 ClubWRX
    That is a good looking head, fairly subtle at address. If the shape is right and it performs, anything else can be dealt with.
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  • BRM569BRM569 Hi Members Posts: 382 ✭✭
    SwingBlues wrote:

    BRM569 wrote:


    I have an Epic Flash SZ head in my hands if anyone is interested in more pictures image/dntknw.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':dntknw:' />




    Is the **** in weight in your EF SZ the same as in the Rogue SZ? What about the sliding weight, same back end as the Epic GBB? Can you check and compare them?




    I don't have my Rogue in front of me at the moment but the front weights are at least cosmetically different. They may be able to swap, but not sure. I had the Epic SZ (no sliding weight) so I can't easily compare as I don't have that driver any more but they sure do look similar.
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  • Stout1Stout1 Members Posts: 19
    Looks very pear... dare I say Titleistlike from address. Have an Epic sub zero that is working for me, but that profile is pleasing to the eye for sure. May have to test versus all the other new stiff in spring.
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  • NokeNoke Members Posts: 2,083 ✭✭
    BRM569 wrote:

    Double Gee wrote:

    3 Jack Par wrote:

    gripandrip wrote:


    Why? With the Rogue supposedly better than the current EPIC (why else would they bring it out... image/stink.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':stink:' /> ), why bring out another version of the old model? Is the sliding weight in the back that much in demand that they were losing sales with the non-sliding weight Rogue? I've never played a driver with the sliding weight... never saw the need, but that's just me.



    I have a older, "inferior" Epic Sub Zero. Wouldn't trade it for a Rogue... I prefer the EPIC SZ.


    The idea behind the Flash is more than just adding a sliding weight to an Epic SZ. The big difference is suppose to be the technology in the face. People who have tested it are claiming ~4 mph gains in ball speed. I haven't hit it, so I can't attest to the accuracy of these reports, but I'm interested to try it. Also, unless I'm mistaken, the Rogue line was supposed to be the replacement for the XR line, not the Epic. I believe the retail price for the Epic line wasn't dropped last year when the Rogue was introduced.




    Surely with the rules and regs about driver performance, how can extra mph be achieved?

    I understand extra speed away from centre but these claims from any manufacturers must be taken with a pinch of salt, surely ?






    It's all about "variable face thickness" with the Flash face. I've seen the back of it, it looks like a lumpy mess and seems to have no rhyme or reason as to why its thicker or thinner is some spots compared to others but Callaway basically told an IBM Watson (artificial intelligence) type super computer to develop a face the achieves the maximum ball speed across all areas of the face...and that's how we now have the "Flash Face"




    Now this is what I want to know (and I'm sure we will soon). If the Flash Face is a departure from typical variable thickness face designs and actually works better, it could be an important tech advance.
  • radimanradiman Members Posts: 4,638 ✭✭
    It does look very FT Tour-ish. Now, I can't wait to hold it in hand. It's times like this that I worked in the golf industry to get this kind of insider access.
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  • BRM569BRM569 Hi Members Posts: 382 ✭✭
    radiman wrote:


    It does look very FT Tour-ish. Now, I can't wait to hold it in hand. It's times like this that I worked in the golf industry to get this kind of insider access.




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  • buckeyeflbuckeyefl Members Posts: 5,363 ✭✭
    Looks like a much more pleasing shape that the last two releases.
  • tyorke1tyorke1 Members Posts: 2,176 ✭✭
    looks good
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  • gpleonardgpleonard New Smyrna Beach, FloridaMembers Posts: 1,221 ✭✭
    Count me a looking forward to trying out the Epic Flash. Like everything I have seen and read. Our club has a Demo Day in late January and the Epic Flash is hopefully going to be there.
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  • 4rheel4rheel OC, CaliforniaMembers Posts: 1,797 ✭✭
    radiman wrote:


    It does look very FT Tour-ish. Now, I can't wait to hold it in hand. It's times like this that I worked in the golf industry to get this kind of insider access.




    Which isn't a bad thing in my book. FT-tour was one of the last Callaway drivers I liked.
  • bigeasybigeasy Bigeasy Members Posts: 1,158 ✭✭


    I know color is subjective but ****, black, green and yellow? Yikes.
    Just a matter of time before the custom colors are available.
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  • ajs72287ajs72287 Members Posts: 182 ✭✭
    BRM569 wrote:


    Here you go. Let me know if there is another shot you want.





    These pics are excellent...thanks for giving the rest of us a sneak peak!!
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  • dmb3535dmb3535 Members Posts: 329 ✭✭
    not loving the color. thought they were supposed to be all black when I saw this



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  • cardoustiecardoustie haha, we don't play for 5's Members Posts: 11,652 ✭✭
    Am i the only one that finds limited success w sliding weights, I know the new Ping driver will have one as well



    The older TM models with weights heel and toe had more effect on ball flight . .for me at least
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  • radimanradiman Members Posts: 4,638 ✭✭
    dmb3535 wrote:


    not loving the color. thought they were supposed to be all black when I saw this



    https://golfweek.com/2018/12/04/callaway-epic-flash-epic-flash-sub-zero-on-usga-conforming-list/




    All of the USGA conforming list pics are black and white.
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  • bama11bama11 JD$ Members Posts: 517 ✭✭
    edited Dec 6, 2018 #61
    cardoustie wrote:


    Am i the only one that finds limited success w sliding weights, I know the new Ping driver will have one as well



    The older TM models with weights heel and toe had more effect on ball flight . .for me at least
    For myself , the sliding weight helped me dial in my perfect shot shape. I normally play a slight draw and occasionally a nasty snap hook rears it's ugly head at least twice per round, with the sliding weight, I was able to after considerable time on the range find the perfect spot for the weight.

    The driver I was using was the Big Bertha, I believe the 2014 model, I never could get the Epic dialed in, mostly because it just felt too light.

    I am excited that the Flash SubZero has the sliding weight, I need help with spin control and the Flash SubZero should do the trick.

    Sorry for the long reply.
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