LPGA Major at Augusta? Yes, No?

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Yes for me. I don`t see why the ladies don`t deserve a chance to play at such a prestigious place. I wouldn`t want to see a 6th major though. I think 5 is pushing it.
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  • GSDriverGSDriver Members Posts: 576 ✭✭
    I think it would be interesting, though they'd have to play members tees or shorter. Would they keep the greens near as fast as The Masters, that would be interesting if they did.
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  • GoGoErkyGoGoErky Members Posts: 1,060 ✭✭
    Some of the scores guys shoot on that course might not make it a fun follow watching LPGA on that course. I would imagine we would see a lot of men’s US open type scores and that doesn’t help the ladies grow the game
  • BrianMcGBrianMcG Members Posts: 2,221 ✭✭
    You can have any opinion, it's just never going to happen.



    How many majors does the lpga need. How bout we just make every week a major then.
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  • duffer987duffer987 Don't feed the Choo. Canadian in CaliforniaMembers Posts: 8,955 ✭✭
    edited Dec 7, 2018 #5
    GoGoErky wrote:


    Some of the scores guys shoot on that course might not make it a fun follow watching LPGA on that course. I would imagine we would see a lot of men's US open type scores and that doesn't help the ladies grow the game


    Nonsense. Not to patronize the LPGA players, but they could manage it purely through green speeds and tee boxes.

    I'd love to see Brooke rope a hard hook off the tee on 13 to set up going for the green in two, Charlie have her own Lyle-moment on 18, and Seo Young ace 16. It could be a heckuva event.



    And it doesn't need to be a 'major' just a really cool invitational tourney.
  • fredogolferfredogolfer Posts: 195 ✭✭
    It surprises me that everyone assumes 6th major or something along those lines. It could easily be a Women's PGA or US Women's Open.
  • GoGoErkyGoGoErky Members Posts: 1,060 ✭✭
    duffer987 wrote:

    GoGoErky wrote:


    Some of the scores guys shoot on that course might not make it a fun follow watching LPGA on that course. I would imagine we would see a lot of men's US open type scores and that doesn't help the ladies grow the game


    Nonsense. Not to patronize the LPGA players, but they could manage it purely through green speeds and tee boxes.

    I'd love to see Brooke rope a hard hook off the tee on 13 to set up going for the green in two, Charlie have her own Lyle-moment on 18, and Seo Young ace 16. It could be a heckuva event.



    And it doesn't need to be a 'major' just a really cool invitational tourney.




    I enjoy watching the lpga but when trying to grow the game I don’t think the avg golfer wants to watch even par golf. Whether it’s a major or not doesn’t matter. I don’t doubt they can manage the course via the right tee boxes and slowing the greens down but I don’t think we would seen the top 25 scores all be well under par. Iirc Wie won the US open at Pinehurst with a -2 and the next closest was +1 or 2. Imo that type of scoring doesn’t help showcase their talent.
  • ChronicSlicerChronicSlicer Members Posts: 909 ✭✭


    It surprises me that everyone assumes 6th major or something along those lines. It could easily be a Women's PGA or US Women's Open.




    Right, no need for a sixth or IMO a fifth even. Hosting a US Open would be cool.
  • duffer987duffer987 Don't feed the Choo. Canadian in CaliforniaMembers Posts: 8,955 ✭✭
    GoGoErky wrote:

    duffer987 wrote:

    GoGoErky wrote:


    Some of the scores guys shoot on that course might not make it a fun follow watching LPGA on that course. I would imagine we would see a lot of men's US open type scores and that doesn't help the ladies grow the game


    Nonsense. Not to patronize the LPGA players, but they could manage it purely through green speeds and tee boxes.

    I'd love to see Brooke rope a hard hook off the tee on 13 to set up going for the green in two, Charlie have her own Lyle-moment on 18, and Seo Young ace 16. It could be a heckuva event.



    And it doesn't need to be a 'major' just a really cool invitational tourney.




    I enjoy watching the lpga but when trying to grow the game I don't think the avg golfer wants to watch even par golf. Whether it's a major or not doesn't matter. I don't doubt they can manage the course via the right tee boxes and slowing the greens down but I don't think we would seen the top 25 scores all be well under par. Iirc Wie won the US open at Pinehurst with a -2 and the next closest was +1 or 2. Imo that type of scoring doesn't help showcase their talent.


    Fair enough. I just don't think viewers care, as long as they are not bludgeoned to death, whether it's 0, -5, or -15 for a winning total.

    Maybe I'm wrong and the PGA has ruined the viewers expectations of what wins events, but if you have some classic shots made on those classic holes, the overall total matters less IMHO.
  • dcmidnightdcmidnight Marshals, BST Volunteer Mods Posts: 11,533 mod
    Its a no for me. I love seeing Augusta once a year, its part of what makes it special - to me. Once a year, for one week I get to see how great that place is. Now you want to throw another tournament there? Nope. Its one course I dont *want* to see on tv more.



    Besides, the greens, the lighting quick runoff areas, the creek banks - *all* that stuff would have to be dialed down. And then, you're not playing Augusta. You're playing "Augusta".



    No thanks.
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  • duffer987duffer987 Don't feed the Choo. Canadian in CaliforniaMembers Posts: 8,955 ✭✭
    dcmidnight wrote:


    Its a no for me. I love seeing Augusta once a year, its part of what makes it special - to me. Once a year, for one week I get to see how great that place is. Now you want to throw another tournament there? Nope. Its one course I dont *want* to see on tv more.



    Besides, the greens, the lighting quick runoff areas, the creek banks - *all* that stuff would have to be dialed down. And then, you're not playing Augusta. You're playing "Augusta".



    No thanks.


    Don't watch. "Problem" solved.
  • dcmidnightdcmidnight Marshals, BST Volunteer Mods Posts: 11,533 mod
    Awh man, I'm sorry. I thought the thread title was "LPGA Major at Augusta? Yes, No?" not "Only post here if you agree with yes".



    Sorry, I misread that.
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  • bmurphbmurph Posts: 454 ✭✭
    edited Dec 7, 2018 #13
    dcmidnight wrote:


    Its a no for me. I love seeing Augusta once a year, its part of what makes it special - to me. Once a year, for one week I get to see how great that place is. Now you want to throw another tournament there? Nope. Its one course I dont *want* to see on tv more.



    Besides, the greens, the lighting quick runoff areas, the creek banks - *all* that stuff would have to be dialed down. And then, you're not playing Augusta. You're playing "Augusta".



    No thanks.




    Assuming they play from appropriate tees, you believe they'd need to further scale back the course to make it playable for an LPGA event?



    Edit - to answer OP, I'd love to see it
  • BrianMcGBrianMcG Members Posts: 2,221 ✭✭
    I think our club championship should be at Augusta. I'm going to make a few calls.
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  • duffer987duffer987 Don't feed the Choo. Canadian in CaliforniaMembers Posts: 8,955 ✭✭
    edited Dec 7, 2018 #15
    dcmidnight wrote:


    Awh man, I'm sorry. I thought the thread title was "LPGA Major at Augusta? Yes, No?" not "Only post here if you agree with yes".



    Sorry, I misread that.


    It is Yes | No. I was just providing a simple solution for you.

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    There are some other interesting points here, but that particular bone of contention is really quite straight forward to resolve.
  • davep043davep043 Members Posts: 3,010 ✭✭
    edited Dec 7, 2018 #16
    It was interesting to see the women play their US Open in 2014 at Pinehurst #2, a week after the men. Similarly, it would be interesting to see the women play a major at Augusta.



    But really, why would the members at Augusta want to allow that to happen? They already surrender a big part of their very short season to the Masters, why would they give up more? They really have nothing at all to gain.
  • ChronicSlicerChronicSlicer Members Posts: 909 ✭✭
    bmurph wrote:

    dcmidnight wrote:


    Its a no for me. I love seeing Augusta once a year, its part of what makes it special - to me. Once a year, for one week I get to see how great that place is. Now you want to throw another tournament there? Nope. Its one course I dont *want* to see on tv more.



    Besides, the greens, the lighting quick runoff areas, the creek banks - *all* that stuff would have to be dialed down. And then, you're not playing Augusta. You're playing "Augusta".



    No thanks.




    Assuming they play from appropriate tees, you believe they'd need to further scale back the course to make it playable for an LPGA event?



    Edit - to answer OP, I'd love to see it




    Playing from the "members" tee`s the course plays 6,365 yds, I`m not sure why that would be such an issue.
  • ChronicSlicerChronicSlicer Members Posts: 909 ✭✭
    davep043 wrote:


    It was interesting to see the women play their US Open in 2014 at Pinehurst #2, a week after the men. Similarly, it would be interesting to see the women play a major at Augusta.



    But really, why would the members at Augusta want to allow that to happen? They already surrender a big part of their very short season to the Masters, why would they give up more? They really have nothing at all to gain.




    Which is why it likely won`t happen. Unless they played a week after the guys did, like you mentioned.
  • ShilgyShilgy Members Posts: 11,287 ✭✭



    It surprises me that everyone assumes 6th major or something along those lines. It could easily be a Women's PGA or US Women's Open.




    Right, no need for a sixth or IMO a fifth even. Hosting a US Open would be cool.
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    It surprises me that everyone assumes 6th major or something along those lines. It could easily be a Women's PGA or US Women's Open.




    Right, no need for a sixth or IMO a fifth even. Hosting a US Open would be cool.




    Nothing cool about Augusta in the middle of Summer.
  • jholzjholz Members Posts: 1,296 ✭✭
    Whether moving an existing major or just having another tournament in the schedule, I think it would be fine to have the LPGA play at Augusta. I don't see where the objection to this idea comes from. Then again, I am not - nor am I anywhere close - to being a member of ANGC.



    If there were a ladies event there, I think it would boost interest and viewership. If nothing else it would be another chance to see the course on TV. It would also be a neat point of comparison between the ladies and the men - how they play the course differently (or not) and so forth.
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  • JagpilotohioJagpilotohio 45+ inch drivers are evil. Columbus, OHMembers Posts: 7,142 ✭✭
    I’m honestly shocked at the ignorance of some of these comments.



    To think the ladies can’t shoot respectable scores when it’s set up at a reasonable yardage is laughable.



    The green complexes are bordering on insane for modern day green speeds, but certainly top LPGA players can shoot par or better there.
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  • GoGoErkyGoGoErky Members Posts: 1,060 ✭✭
    davep043 wrote:


    It was interesting to see the women play their US Open in 2014 at Pinehurst #2, a week after the men. Similarly, it would be interesting to see the women play a major at Augusta.



    But really, why would the members at Augusta want to allow that to happen? They already surrender a big part of their very short season to the Masters, why would they give up more? They really have nothing at all to gain.




    As well as the new women’s amatuer event next year.
  • AWinfortheAgesAWinfortheAges Posts: 181 ✭✭
    Not an LPGA Major, but a Women's Golf Major. Maybe invite the top 10 from (LPGA, KLPGA, JLPGA, LET) and fill the next 60 spots from the Rolex rankings. Or just top 100 Rolex rankings.



    Held bi-annually and the year prior to or year after the Olympics (assuming they keep golf).



    Place it in rotation with some other great and historic courses (Pebble, Medina, etc.), but ensure that Augusta Nat is on the rotation every 4 or 8 years.
  • Chris122Chris122 Banned Posts: 611 ✭✭
    An unequivocal 'No'.



    Reasons? Primarily because I no longer enjoy the Augusta Invitational because of the tricked-up nature of the golf course,AN management love to quote selected snippets from Jones to justify the 'improvements' that have been made,in reality they have created something that looks as synthetic as a video game.

    Then there will be the inevitable comparisons between men and women playing there,comparisons are especially odious in that context and an event held there would smack of the LPGA trying to emulate,catch up with or surpass the PGA Tour,really quite unnecessary because they have a brilliant platform to work from which in several respects offers a better viewing experience.

    Another major seems a bit silly,too many (like the Masters itself...not a proper major) and they lose their value.

    With the number of great courses available perhaps geography might be more of a consideration,to take the LPGA to somewhere new and different rather than marching over old ground.
  • aknowaknow Members Posts: 96
    Good idea. The LPGA is far more interesting than the PGA driver/1/2 wedge -23 tour anyway. The LPGA needs deep pocket sponsors.
  • CorgiCorgi Posts: 134 ✭✭
    edited Dec 8, 2018 #27
    Shilgy wrote:




    It surprises me that everyone assumes 6th major or something along those lines. It could easily be a Women's PGA or US Women's Open.




    Right, no need for a sixth or IMO a fifth even. Hosting a US Open would be cool.
    AN is closed in the summer.


    They are basically shut down after the Masters. At least they used to be.That would limit the available time frame considerably.
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  • LeoLeo99LeoLeo99 Members Posts: 3,925 ✭✭


    I’m honestly shocked at the ignorance of some of these comments.



    To think the ladies can’t shoot respectable scores when it’s set up at a reasonable yardage is laughable.



    The green complexes are bordering on insane for modern day green speeds, but certainly top LPGA players can shoot par or better there.




    I don't think they can.
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    I don't think women's golf could hold up to the expectations for dress at AN.
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    Populist . . . click bait . . . nonsense.
  • mallratmallrat Members Posts: 2,869 ✭✭
    No but not because they don’t deserve it.



    I say give them their own course and let them make it what the Masters is. Create their own history at Cypress or Pine Valley or NGL or LA country club
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