Difference between Titleist and Mizuno irons

hypergolfhypergolf Members Posts: 1,222 ✭✭
Please describe your difference in feel between these two irons in general.

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  • manxytagmanxytag Members Posts: 522 ✭✭
    Titleist feel firmer to me but I also prefer the shape of Titleist.



    The feel stops me playing Titleist over Mizuno
  • DixieDDixieD Members Posts: 158
    Ohhhh this gonna be fun.
  • gibbyfangibbyfan Members Posts: 1,192 ✭✭
    In this case I think it comes down to the model you are looking at buying. Blade to blade, edge to Mizuno, ever so slightly. Cb to cb...draw for me. GI...draw as well.
  • texcromtexcrom ClubWRX Posts: 3,483 ClubWRX
    Titleist does have a firmer feel. Performance wise, I have found the AP2 series to be a more consistent product, as it is relatively unchanged over the last ten years.



    But nothing compares to the feel of a Mizuno blade.
    Titleist TS3 10.5 degree HZRDUS Black Smoke 6.0 70g Stiff 
    Titleist TS3 15 degree HZRDUS Black Smoke 6.0 70g Stiff
    Titleist 718 T-MB 3 iron Project X PXi 6.0
    Titleist 718 T-MB 4 iron Project X PXi 6.0
    Titleist 718 AP2 5 - 9 irons AMT Tour White S-300
    Titleist Vokey SM7 48-10F
    Titleist Vokey SM7 52-08F
    Titleist Vokey SM7 56-10S
    Titleist Vokey SM7 60-10S
    Odyssey O-works 2 Ball Red
    Titleist Pro V1X
    Additional - Titleist TS3 16.5 degree fairway wood, Titleist Vokey 60.12D wedge, Titleist 905R 10.5 degree YS6+ Stiff, Titleist 718 AP2 4 iron and pitching wedge, Taylormade R7 425 TP, Taylormade R7 TP Titanium 3 wood, Scotty Cameron Select Newport, Ping Anser 35 inch, Cleveland Designed By blade putter.

    GO VOLS!
  • ZTB481ZTB481 FtMillSC Members Posts: 15 ✭✭
    I love Mizuno blades, I have played MP14s, 29s, 30s, 32s, 33s, 37s, 60s, 67s, 68s and 69s. I currently have a set of Titleist 681s with Project X 6.0 shafts that are the sweetest feeling irons I have ever played. I thought I read somewhere where Titleist puts a hickory dowel in the hosel of the iron to improve feel .
  • cflo2382cflo2382 Members Posts: 326 ✭✭
    edited Jan 5, 2019 8:07am #7
    I just stripped and refinished a raw 3-PW set of 690.MBs and they are marshmallow melted butter soft.. I'm sure the Nippons in them help too!



    I hit them compared to the JXP 900 Tours (which I know aren't deemed the softest side of Mizuno) and the 690s were quite softer in my opinion.
    PING G410 w/ ACCRA TZ6 65 M5
    COBRA F9 Tour @ 16* w/ Tensei Pro Orange 80TX
    PING G410 X-Over 3 w/ GD AD-DI 105x
    Miura MC-501 4-PW w/ Modus3 120x
    Miura Raw Tour Milled 52* (bent to 51*), 1957 55* C-grind, Raw Tour Milled 58* (bend to 59*) w/ Modus3 120x
    SC Studio Select Newport 2 Mid Slant (Torched)
    ProV1x | Vessel Players 2.0 Stand - Black
  • PulledabillPulledabill Members Posts: 334 ✭✭
    I play Titleist and hit some Mizuno dwmos a month or so ago. The Mizunos had a much softer feel...suprisongly so. Im not a blade player, but when I nutted a few with the demo blades, not sure Ive ever felt a nice club.
  • Golf64Golf64 Go Habs Go! Ontario, CanadaMembers Posts: 7,721 ✭✭
    Titleist feels firmer and 'clickier' vs. Mizuno, plus there is a big diff. in price here. image/wink.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=';)' />
    All Mizuno bag for this year.
    ST-190 Driver, 3/5 wood
    919F 4-pw Nippon 105R
    S18 50, 54, 60
    Spider X putter
    TP5(2018)


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  • SwingManSwingMan SwingMan Members Posts: 6,800
    edited Jan 5, 2019 10:27am #10
    The question is too general to have any meaning.



    Too many models, which differ in design and feel, to have a valid answer.



    You'd have to compare models.
    "My swing is so bad, I look like a caveman killing his lunch" - Lee Trevino

    Bag: Ping G400 Max/TPT Golf Series 17 ● Exotics EX10 Beta 4, 5 wd ● PXG 0317 4H/Tensei CK Pro Red 70 ● Mizuno 919F 5-GW/Accra i80 ● Ping Glide 2.0 Stealth 56ES, 60SS ●Evnroll ER8
  • bogeyprobogeypro The Original Bogeypro ClubWRX Posts: 3,233 ClubWRX
    SwingMan wrote:


    The question is too general to have any meaning.



    Too many models, which differ in design and feel, to have a valid answer.



    You'd have to compare models.




    This is exactly right.



    I’ve bounced between the two for years. I love them both. You really to pic a model and compare. I don’t think you can make broad comparisons about feel between the two. I’ve got some MB and ap2 that have felt like butter and I e hit some mp 25 that felt very clicky. It just depends on the model.
    Taylormade M6 w/ATMOS black ts 6x
    Taylormade M5 3 wood w/HZRDUS black 75 6.5
    Mizuno JPX 850 2 hybrid
    Mizuno MP 18 SC 3-pw
    Taylormade hi-toe 52-9 and 58-10 wedges
    Scotty Cameron Newport 
  • Bomber_11Bomber_11 Enjoy the Chase. ClubWRX Posts: 3,532 ClubWRX
    Blade to blade I'd give Mizuno an edge on feel and a slight edge on forgiveness.



    CB to CB or GI to GI or SGI to SGI they're neck and neck.



    I know Mizuno is really good on the upgraded shaft and grip options, not sure on Titleist.
    Ping G400 Max 9* w/ Tensei Pro Orange 60TX
    Callaway Rogue Sub Zero 15° w/ Tensei Pro White 70TX
    PXG 0311X 2i w/ KBS Tour Hybrid Prototype 105S+
    Mizuno JPX919 Tour 3-PW w/ DG Tour Issue X100
    Titleist Vokey SM7 50F/54S/60D w/ Pink DG S400
    Scotty Cameron Newport 2 Button Back
    Jones x Greyson Stand Bag

    Work. Play. Win. Repeat.
  • reider69reider69 Members Posts: 615 ✭✭
    A good golfer could use a comparable club from each company and get equal results. The reason you choose one over the other is feel and shape(looks) imo.
    Mizuno ST190 - Kuro Kage Silver Tini 70X
    Cobra BioCell+ - Matrix Ozik Red Tie 6Q3 X
    Cobra BioCell 3-4 Hybrid - Aldila Rogue Black 85 X
    Mizuno JPX 900 Forged 4-G, KBS C Taper Lite X
    Ping Glide Stealth 2.0 - 54 and 58 - Modus 105X
    Callaway Xforged - 64 degrees
    Lajosi DD201 Proto
  • VCGolfer79VCGolfer79 Members Posts: 197 ✭✭
    Mizuno is just in a different room when it comes to forging. Titleists look great but just don’t feel the same as a Mizuno. Will never play a different iron. Wouldn’t play Titleist irons if they were given to me. I do like Titleist woods though.
    Cobra Fly Z+ Aldila ATX Green
    M2 15° Aldila Rogue Silver
    Adams XTD Ti 18*
    Mizuno MP25 4&5 iron MP33 6-PW
    Mizuno MPT5 60 Cleveland 588 52 & 56
    Odyssey Tour Edition Black #5
  • Sir edward of putternutSir edward of putternut DARTH SMUG Members Posts: 1,365 ✭✭
    edited Jan 5, 2019 6:30pm #15
    Both perform to the ability of the dude swinging the club. However, mizuno feel better imo. The feel/sound of titleist is not as resonant since the 690s....the 710cb was also schmantastic in all categories.

    I actually think that titleist is better suited to the majority of golfers in most categories, while mizuno is better suited to those pimpin'



    Edit: i play mizunos....obviously image/wink.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=';)' />
    Mizuno mp-5(px 5.5, 4-pw)
    Adams Pro 19'
    Hogan 51,55
    Callaway 60 pm grind
    Byron Morgan 007
    Callaway EpicSZ 9.0
    Mizuno JPX 900 3w


  • premazipppremazipp Members Posts: 407 ✭✭
    edited Jan 5, 2019 6:56pm #16
    One is crap and one is Mizuno image/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />
    Driver: Adams 4G 12*
    Wood: Adams Fast 10 18*
    Hybrid: Ping Anser 20*
    Irons: Wishon 550M 5-PW
    Wedges: Scratch 8620 53
    */58*
    Putter: Bettinardi Queen Bee #6
  • texcromtexcrom ClubWRX Posts: 3,483 ClubWRX
    edited Jan 5, 2019 8:13pm #17
    VCGolfer79 wrote:


    Mizuno is just in a different room when it comes to forging. Titleists look great but just don’t feel the same as a Mizuno. Will never play a different iron. Wouldn’t play Titleist irons if they were given to me. I do like Titleist woods though.




    Haha! I’m guessing if someone handed you a box with a set of brand new 718 AP2’s, you’d take them!



    While Mizuno has a slightly softer feel, AP2’s are soft also. In a comparison, MP18 SC’s win in feel, but AP2’s are slightly more forgiving.



    Having owned and played MP14’s, 29’s, 30’s, 33’s, 60’s, 32’s, and 64’s over the years, I do understand your position though.
    Titleist TS3 10.5 degree HZRDUS Black Smoke 6.0 70g Stiff 
    Titleist TS3 15 degree HZRDUS Black Smoke 6.0 70g Stiff
    Titleist 718 T-MB 3 iron Project X PXi 6.0
    Titleist 718 T-MB 4 iron Project X PXi 6.0
    Titleist 718 AP2 5 - 9 irons AMT Tour White S-300
    Titleist Vokey SM7 48-10F
    Titleist Vokey SM7 52-08F
    Titleist Vokey SM7 56-10S
    Titleist Vokey SM7 60-10S
    Odyssey O-works 2 Ball Red
    Titleist Pro V1X
    Additional - Titleist TS3 16.5 degree fairway wood, Titleist Vokey 60.12D wedge, Titleist 905R 10.5 degree YS6+ Stiff, Titleist 718 AP2 4 iron and pitching wedge, Taylormade R7 425 TP, Taylormade R7 TP Titanium 3 wood, Scotty Cameron Select Newport, Ping Anser 35 inch, Cleveland Designed By blade putter.

    GO VOLS!
  • daleheaddalehead Members Posts: 1,461 ✭✭
    ZTB481 wrote:


    I love Mizuno blades, I have played MP14s, 29s, 30s, 32s, 33s, 37s, 60s, 67s, 68s and 69s. I currently have a set of Titleist 681s with Project X 6.0 shafts that are the sweetest feeling irons I have ever played. I thought I read somewhere where Titleist puts a hickory dowel in the hosel of the iron to improve feel .




    Titleist did the dowel thing on their Tour Model blades in the 80's. I don't think they've done it since.
  • RainShadowRainShadow Tucson AZ (for now)Members Posts: 3,689 ✭✭
    Golf64 wrote:


    Titleist feels firmer and 'clickier' vs. Mizuno, plus there is a big diff. in price here. image/wink.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=';)' />


    This seems to be the concensus among folks I play with.
    Ping G400 10.5 Hzrdus Yellow 75 6.0
    Rogue 17* Atmos Blue TS
    G 410 19* Tour 85 R
    Apex  23 & 26 Kuro Kage S
    Cobra Forged Tec Black 6-GW Modus 105s (In Play) / Srixon Z765 6-GW Modus 105s (Standing By)
    MackDaddy4 Black 54 S and RTX 3 Raw 58* 
     Bettinardi '16 BB1 / '16 Bettinardi Tiki /  '17 Studio Stock 8
    Chrome Soft / TP5/ Wilson Staff FG Tour
  • SwingBladeSwingBlade SoCalMembers Posts: 879 ✭✭
    Generally there are simply too many variables in a question like this. However, I think I can comfortably say that at the players club level, there are certain aspects of feel and turf interaction that would cause me and a number of others to generally favor a Mizzy. But there are other factors that cause many to prefer Titleist irons.
    Cobra King F9 Tour Length Speedback 10.5 ATMOS TS Blue 6S 44.25” D5 14g/6g wts
    Cobra King F9 Speedback 4W & 6W ATMOS TS Blue 7S D3
    Miura CB57 4-PW KBS Tour Black Pearl S D5-D7
    Miura K-grind 52, 56, 60, & 64 KBS Wedge S D8
    Scotty Circle T Red Dot 350g Newport 2 (A006794)
    Bushnell Hybrid GPS Rangefinder (2019)
    Pro V1X

    Backup/travel: '18 M3 440, M1/M2 FW's, MP-64's and Vokey WedgeWorks 52F, 56V & 60V
  • bogeyprobogeypro The Original Bogeypro ClubWRX Posts: 3,233 ClubWRX
    You mention turf interaction... I actually feel that since the 716 line, Titleist has the edge. That pre worn sole they put on is excellent. The jpx has similar, but not the mp. I a Dudley think the 716 cb was the best cb they made. The new ones are two piece gave and body... didn’t feel as good. The 718 ap2 feel great. The mp18 is amazing feel, but the sc has the added forgiveness. My biggest complaint with the latest Mizuno irons is the thicker square top lines. I prefer the thinner more rounded look of the Titleist this year.



    Like others have said, it’s personal preference more than anything. Purely subjective.
    Taylormade M6 w/ATMOS black ts 6x
    Taylormade M5 3 wood w/HZRDUS black 75 6.5
    Mizuno JPX 850 2 hybrid
    Mizuno MP 18 SC 3-pw
    Taylormade hi-toe 52-9 and 58-10 wedges
    Scotty Cameron Newport 
  • dparkdpark Members Posts: 2,527 ✭✭
    Since 2000, I have played with the following forged blades: 1999 Hogan Apex, Titleist 681, MP-32, Titleist 680, Titleist 716, MP-14, MP-68



    My gamers for the past 2 years have been the 716s. I think they are the most versatile forged blade out there. I recently picked up the 68s and have been playing with them for a couple of weeks now. With the PX5.5 shafts, they mercilessly kicked the MP-14s to the curb (DG-S300) and I sold them on the BST this week.



    Whether the 68s become my gamers is TBD, but they are some really nice irons. I hit the MP-18s at the last demo day of the year a couple of months ago and wasn't impressed with them.



    Looks: classic musclebacks look great from both companies

    Feel: TBH, I think the shaft has more to do with the "feel" than the head. Right now I think the 68s with PX5.5 feel better than the 716s with Steelfiber i95s. But they also feel WAY better than the MP-14s with DG-S300.

    Workability: This is where (for me) the 716s are just flat-out shine. I can work them left and right, high and low. In the few rounds I have played with the 68s, I am not seeing the same level of workability with the 68s. Solid shots are bliss with the 68s. Maybe it is the sole design (the 716s and the 68s are very different), maybe it's the shaft, but right now I am unable to achieve the same level of workability with the 68s



    I am really tempted to buy another set of PX5.5s and stick them into a set of 716s heads I have as backups...



    YMMV
    Old stuff:
    1962 Tommy Armour AT2W Driver
    1953 Macgregor M65W EOM 3 wood
    1978 H&B PowerBilt Citation 4 wood
    1984 Ben Hogan Apex PC 2-E
    1968 Wilson Dual Wedge
    1964 Acushnet O-SET M6S Bullseye Putter

    New stuff
    Cobra ZL 10.5 driver
    Adams 5050 16 fairway wood
    Adams A2P 20* hybrid
    Titleist 716 MB irons 4-PW
    Callaway Mack Daddy wedges 52, 56, 60
    Scotty Cameron Pro Platinum Napa
  • Aviador NavalAviador Naval equus mortuus non caedis Members Posts: 1,103 ✭✭
    If talking pure muscleback offerings, Titleist fit my eye better and Mizuno feel just a bit better. Lately I've chosen Titleist. If Mizuno could find somebody to design a decent looking 9i and PW, I might go that direction.



    If talking CB/AP type clubs, Titleist is light years ahead imo. It's as if Titleist truly believes that multi-material and such can improve the performance of a club and put some effort into doing so while Mizuno believe it is simply something they must offer to remain relevant so they cobble something together before the company picnic.
    917 D2 9.5
    Rotating pool of ineffective and unsatisfying options
    818 H1 19
    818 H1 23 or T-MB 4i
    718 CB/MB 5-P
    50-12, 54F, 58D
    Old Laguna 1.5
  • hypergolfhypergolf Members Posts: 1,222 ✭✭


    If talking pure muscleback offerings, Titleist fit my eye better and Mizuno feel just a bit better. Lately I've chosen Titleist. If Mizuno could find somebody to design a decent looking 9i and PW, I might go that direction.



    If talking CB/AP type clubs, Titleist is light years ahead imo. It's as if Titleist truly believes that multi-material and such can improve the performance of a club and put some effort into doing so while Mizuno believe it is simply something they must offer to remain relevant so they cobble something together before the company picnic.




    There is a Titleist demo day coming near to my location. Will try out the AP2 and compare with my current MP60.
  • RogerinNewZealandRogerinNewZealand Members Posts: 2,356 ✭✭
    Just before i joined

    Golfwrx i bought 681 irons locally. They hooked badly because of lite shafts.

    Nice. Not clicky.

    Bought 710mb instant clicky!! Sold bought Wilson FG62.. nice!

    Today i have Hogan Apex Plus with original rp rifles

    And thats my winner.



    I look ford to buying both 716 and 718 and MP4 or MP5 in a few years. I genuinely think the Titleist forgings got softer from 716 on.

    Cheers Roger
    2019 May

    Ping [email protected] 10.5
    Tee 16.5
    Tm V Steel @ 18
     
    Mizuno MP 63 DGR300 at D4

    Vokey SM5 50 08 F Old SM at 54 and SM6 58S 10

    Titleist Scotty Mid Slant Pro Platinum at 34 and a Half!

  • stryperstryper Members Posts: 3,186 ✭✭
    Golf64 wrote:


    Titleist feels firmer and 'clickier' vs. Mizuno, plus there is a big diff. in price here. image/wink.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=';)' />




    Especially when you factor in no upcharge for a nice selection of premium shafts/grips.
    Titleist 917D2, w/UST Mamiya Elements Chrome 7F4T
    Titleist 915Fd, w/Aldila Rogue Black 80-2.8-S
    18* KZG U Iron, w/UST Proforce V2 100-S
    Mizuno MP-18 MMC Fli-Hi 4-5, w/UST Recoil 95 F4
    Mizuno MP-18 MMC 6-P, w/UST Recoil 95 F4
    Titleist Vokey SM5 52-08 F, 56-10 S
    Callaway Sure Out 64
    Odyssey O-Works Tank #7
  • hypergolfhypergolf Members Posts: 1,222 ✭✭
    stryper wrote:

    Golf64 wrote:


    Titleist feels firmer and 'clickier' vs. Mizuno, plus there is a big diff. in price here. image/wink.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=';)' />




    Especially when you factor in no upcharge for a nice selection of premium shafts/grips.




    Just clarifying. You are talking about Mizunos not having up charge right?
  • stryperstryper Members Posts: 3,186 ✭✭
    hypergolf wrote:

    stryper wrote:

    Golf64 wrote:


    Titleist feels firmer and 'clickier' vs. Mizuno, plus there is a big diff. in price here. image/wink.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=';)' />




    Especially when you factor in no upcharge for a nice selection of premium shafts/grips.




    Just clarifying. You are talking about Mizunos not having up charge right?




    Correct...in that respect, Mizuno wins by a mile.
    Titleist 917D2, w/UST Mamiya Elements Chrome 7F4T
    Titleist 915Fd, w/Aldila Rogue Black 80-2.8-S
    18* KZG U Iron, w/UST Proforce V2 100-S
    Mizuno MP-18 MMC Fli-Hi 4-5, w/UST Recoil 95 F4
    Mizuno MP-18 MMC 6-P, w/UST Recoil 95 F4
    Titleist Vokey SM5 52-08 F, 56-10 S
    Callaway Sure Out 64
    Odyssey O-Works Tank #7
  • uwhockey14uwhockey14 Members Posts: 258 ✭✭
    ZTB481 wrote:


    I love Mizuno blades, I have played MP14s, 29s, 30s, 32s, 33s, 37s, 60s, 67s, 68s and 69s. I currently have a set of Titleist 681s with Project X 6.0 shafts that are the sweetest feeling irons I have ever played. I thought I read somewhere where Titleist puts a hickory dowel in the hosel of the iron to improve feel .




    They did with the 681's and the 681 T's because that's what Tiger liked and it did make them feel awesome but I have a couple sets of 681's without the Dowel in them and they feel awesome as well....



    maybe someone on here knows the answer to this but the Titleist forged Irons in the time of the 681's, like the 690's, 680's and 670's all had a much better feet to them than their Irons from 2005 on, not sure if the forging house changed or what.... IMO the pre-2005 era of Titleist Forgings was the golden age!
    Titleist 913D2/D3 (8.5) Stiff Diamana
    Titleist 906F2 15* Aldila NV Stiff
    Cleveland LDi 21*
    Titleist 681 4-PW (Project X 5.5)
    Mizuno MP T-Series Forged Wedges (56,60)
    Cobra Greg Norman (U-Model) Putter "Boss of the moss"
    Ping Hoofer (Wisconsin Badgers)
    Driver Cover (Black Lab)
    3-Wood Cover (USA knit pom pom)
    Putter Cover (Team USA 2016 Ryder Cup)
  • dparkdpark Members Posts: 2,527 ✭✭
    uwhockey14 wrote:

    ZTB481 wrote:


    I love Mizuno blades, I have played MP14s, 29s, 30s, 32s, 33s, 37s, 60s, 67s, 68s and 69s. I currently have a set of Titleist 681s with Project X 6.0 shafts that are the sweetest feeling irons I have ever played. I thought I read somewhere where Titleist puts a hickory dowel in the hosel of the iron to improve feel .




    They did with the 681's and the 681 T's because that's what Tiger liked and it did make them feel awesome but I have a couple sets of 681's without the Dowel in them and they feel awesome as well....



    maybe someone on here knows the answer to this but the Titleist forged Irons in the time of the 681's, like the 690's, 680's and 670's all had a much better feet to them than their Irons from 2005 on, not sure if the forging house changed or what.... IMO the pre-2005 era of Titleist Forgings was the golden age!




    I believe the 681s were forged by Hoffman (which is now closed down), but not sure about the rest of them. And I agree with you that the 68x irons did feel great (I played the 681s and 680s) and that "something" went amiss when they started the 7xx line of irons. But they got it right with the 716s. Closest iron to the 681 IMHO. Haven't hit the 718s so I can't comment there.
    Old stuff:
    1962 Tommy Armour AT2W Driver
    1953 Macgregor M65W EOM 3 wood
    1978 H&B PowerBilt Citation 4 wood
    1984 Ben Hogan Apex PC 2-E
    1968 Wilson Dual Wedge
    1964 Acushnet O-SET M6S Bullseye Putter

    New stuff
    Cobra ZL 10.5 driver
    Adams 5050 16 fairway wood
    Adams A2P 20* hybrid
    Titleist 716 MB irons 4-PW
    Callaway Mack Daddy wedges 52, 56, 60
    Scotty Cameron Pro Platinum Napa
  • gambitgambit Members Posts: 4,184 ✭✭
    Mizuno's, typically, are softer but their pw in the past has looked terrible. Not an issue if you use a typical wedge for that. Wasn't a fan of their boron plated stuff. Titleist has the name. Clubs look good, but feel is a tad clickier. Performance from both are great. All about preference.
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