Apex 16 to Apex 19 worth the upgrade???

WeritoK2WeritoK2 Members Posts: 153 ✭✭
Hi guys, been playing the Apex cf16 since they came out and love them, my set is really beat up now after these past years of play and now I have to make a choice....



Either getting the new Apex 19 combo or going for a mint set of Apex 16 combo that I’m getting quite a good deal for!



Price for the new Apex is quite steep and I don’t want to spend that much money on a new model that may perform the same as the current.



I’d like to hear your thoughts on the matter!



Thanks!

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  • balls_deepballs_deep Members Posts: 581 ✭✭
    Tech wise... not as much as you'd probably read. My new set of irons is 14 years old and I score the same as my fitted ones from 2017. If you know the shaft fit just go for the Apex 16 combo. I really liked the feel of the Apex Pro 16.
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  • JagpilotohioJagpilotohio 45+ inch drivers are evil. Columbus, OHMembers Posts: 7,227 ✭✭
    I think the cf16 is one of the best clubs made in this century.



    With that said, I never liked the 16 pro that much.



    Go for the 19 combo set. They look sweet and they’ve had 3 years to mess with them.
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  • andrieddleandrieddle Members Posts: 1,798 ✭✭
    I would go 19 for the looks, but since you mentioned performance, I don't think there will be much to it......
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  • MickVinerMickViner BrisbaneMembers Posts: 18 ✭✭
    I went back to my CF 16/Pro combo from a new set i got fit for with a more pleasing topline, only thing i felt with the 16 Apex combo was the top lines where too big a difference to be a combo like the Mizuno's but i cant argue with the results, i look forwrd to trying the 19's but enjoying the 16 combo too much right now to be fussed
  • cmatthews77cmatthews77 Members Posts: 821 ✭✭
    If you’re grooves are already worn on the CF16 or you’re just itching for something new I think they’re a worthwhile replacement the little bit I hit them. I may be mistaken with more testing but it seemed I was getting a touch more spin than I did with the CF16 but it was probably just that day as there’s no reason they’d spin more.



    Side by side blind test you’d probably not notice any difference.
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  • CaseyDanCaseyDan Members Posts: 796 ✭✭
    I played the CF16’s off and on for the last two years and I think the CF19’s are an upgrade. The feel is softer and the sound is more solid as well. I also think they frame the ball mich better. More of a players club look at address. Of course, all in my opinion.



    Distance was equal, but For me, feel is a top priority so it was worth the upgrade and my order has been placed.
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  • CaddiesFaultCaddiesFault Golf Professional Members Posts: 808 ✭✭
    You probably wont get many, if any, good answers for another month. Very few ppl have hit or have the 19's yet. I hit the pro 7i for about 5 minutes and it was sweet, but I couldnt tell you the difference though without some actual testing. It was more spinny than the Rogue Pro, that I can say for sure. Its also probably a little longer than the Apex 16 pro due to the micro-sphere thing.
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  • JasonPetermannJasonPetermann Members Posts: 382 ✭✭
    I hit both the Apex and the Apex Pro yesterday. They feel great. I preferred the feel of the pro, but honestly, neither was that much difference in feel to me over the Rogue Pro I am playing. The looks of the Pro were nicer that the Rogue Pro. Apex and Rogue Pro are pretty much the same size. I played the Apex 16 and the Apex Pro in the past. The 2019 models to me are nicer looking, but perform the same for me.



    I will wait for them to end up on CPO and probably get a set of Apex Pro later in the year just because.



    All that said, I think the Rogue Pros were the most underrated club last year.
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  • WeritoK2WeritoK2 Members Posts: 153 ✭✭


    I hit both the Apex and the Apex Pro yesterday. They feel great. I preferred the feel of the pro, but honestly, neither was that much difference in feel to me over the Rogue Pro I am playing. The looks of the Pro were nicer that the Rogue Pro. Apex and Rogue Pro are pretty much the same size. I played the Apex 16 and the Apex Pro in the past. The 2019 models to me are nicer looking, but perform the same for me.



    I will wait for them to end up on CPO and probably get a set of Apex Pro later in the year just because.



    All that said, I think the Rogue Pros were the most underrated club last year.




    If you had to choose between Apex 16 or Rogue Pro?
  • Audi A-ForeAudi A-Fore Members Posts: 86 ✭✭
    I hit the both 19 models, definite improvement in feel. I don’t know what there’ll be a massive difference in performance, probably incremental at best.



    The question comes down to your prioritization of feel v. cost.
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  • JasonPetermannJasonPetermann Members Posts: 382 ✭✭
    WeritoK2 wrote:



    I hit both the Apex and the Apex Pro yesterday. They feel great. I preferred the feel of the pro, but honestly, neither was that much difference in feel to me over the Rogue Pro I am playing. The looks of the Pro were nicer that the Rogue Pro. Apex and Rogue Pro are pretty much the same size. I played the Apex 16 and the Apex Pro in the past. The 2019 models to me are nicer looking, but perform the same for me.



    I will wait for them to end up on CPO and probably get a set of Apex Pro later in the year just because.



    All that said, I think the Rogue Pros were the most underrated club last year.




    If you had to choose between Apex 16 or Rogue Pro?




    That is a hard one as they are both great clubs and so similar. I would probably pick the Rogue Pros.

    I would have to say whichever you can get the best deal on. I really like both.
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  • JagpilotohioJagpilotohio 45+ inch drivers are evil. Columbus, OHMembers Posts: 7,227 ✭✭
    Ok. Just saw the 19’s in the store. I Only saw the 7 iron heads for fitting but they are **** sharp!! Very nice.



    They will sell a gazillion of these.
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