Hybrid / Fairway / Driving Iron - which would you choose?

bodhi555bodhi555 Members Posts: 788 ✭✭
I'm in the process of sorting out my bag for next season, and as far as I can see I have one spot left to fill. Stuff that isn't changing is:



Driver (270+)

3 Wood (240+)

4 Iron (200)

5 iron (185)

6 iron (175)

7 iron (165)

8 iron (150)

9 iron (135)

PW (120)

50 (105)

54 (90)

58 (70)



All distances are in yards. As you can see the gap I am trying to fill is between 3 Wood and 4 iron - I have a couple of options at the moment but neither are ideal. I have my Vapor Fly Pro 2 Iron which is an absolute rocket launcher off the tee, and OK off the deck if I have a good lie and is good for around 230 yards. I also have my Frankenwood, which is a Vapor Fly 5 Wood with the shaft from a 3 wood in it. Good for about 215 out of just about any lie, but it's not so great off the tee due to the trajectory of the thing (very high, although bizarrely not as high as it was with a 5 Wood shaft in it).



My ideal world would be to keep both the 5 Wood and 2 Iron in the bag, or learn to hit the 2 iron off the deck and just carry that, but I'm also looking at other options. I definitely prefer long irons to fairway woods, so thinking of some sort of hybrid/utility iron to do both tee and fairway and will get me a solid 220 yards down the fairway from either.



What are my best options? I played on holiday over Xmas and the rental set had an 818 H2 in there, only hit it once but it went like a rocket - nice and low and around the distance I'm looking for. So the 818 H2 19 degree is definitely one I'll be looking at, but are there any other options out there? Only manufacturer I'm not really insterested in is Ping, so am all ears for other suggestions.
The Blue Thunder: Nike Vapor Fly - 9.5 degree - Speeder Evolution 757X
The Stenson: Titleist 917 F3 15 degree - Aldila Rogue Max 75X
The Walking Stick: Titleist 818 H2 19 degree - Aldila Rogue Max 85X
The Blades: Nike VR Pro 4i - PW - DG S400 TI Shaft
The Rusties: Nike Engage 50, 54 Square Sole, 58 Toe Sweep
The Putter: Nike "The Oven" Method 003
Balls: Nike RZN Tour Black/Platinum, Bridgestone Tour B XS, Titleist AVX
Bag: Sun Mountain Four Five


Comments

  • getitdailygetitdaily Members Posts: 2,440 ✭✭
    edited Jan 11, 2019 7:21am #2
    5wood for you will be too long.



    A 19* hybrid or 18-19 degree "driving iron" would be perfect. Whichever one you hit more consistently.



    Hybrids- take your pick. Watch out for callaway. The epic hybrid was HOT and long.



    Driving irons - srixon, mizuno, ping, tmb are the hot topic items in this category.
  • DCMorgan89DCMorgan89 Members Posts: 44 ✭✭
    Same dilemma... from my recent experience I’d go hybrid over DI. More versatile, forgiving, and get you out there just as far. CBX hybrids are on sale at RBG. Very open with a flat lie angle.
  • BrockPSUBrockPSU Members Posts: 243 ✭✭
    I have basically same bag setup, I go driving iron, I did go hybrid for awhile. Looking down at a driving iron off the tee for me looks easier to hit than a hybrid. The hybrid however was great for par 5s and getting out of the rough on par 5s.
    TS3 10.5 AD DI 6x
    TS2 16.5 AD DI 8x
    716 T-MB 3 AD DI Hybrid 95x
    716 T-MB 4 Project x 6.5
    716 CB 5-6 Project x 6.5
    716 MB 7-PW Project x 6.5
    SM6 46 F Grind Project x 6.0(in rotation)
    SM7 50 F Grind, 54 S Grind, 58 L Grind Project x 6.0
    Scotty Cameron Tour Rat R&D Proto Concept 1
  • bodhi555bodhi555 Members Posts: 788 ✭✭
    I guess my main concern is around trajectory - I do hit a very high ball hence gravitating more towards long irons to keep it down. I'll be keeping the 2 iron in the locker for windy days and game on the Links (same thing I guess), but is it possible to get a hybrid which keeps the ball down?
    The Blue Thunder: Nike Vapor Fly - 9.5 degree - Speeder Evolution 757X
    The Stenson: Titleist 917 F3 15 degree - Aldila Rogue Max 75X
    The Walking Stick: Titleist 818 H2 19 degree - Aldila Rogue Max 85X
    The Blades: Nike VR Pro 4i - PW - DG S400 TI Shaft
    The Rusties: Nike Engage 50, 54 Square Sole, 58 Toe Sweep
    The Putter: Nike "The Oven" Method 003
    Balls: Nike RZN Tour Black/Platinum, Bridgestone Tour B XS, Titleist AVX
    Bag: Sun Mountain Four Five


  • KGilmaKGilma Members Posts: 162 ✭✭
    edited Jan 11, 2019 10:58am #6
    Basically same problem as you, except I'm trying to figure out what to take out. I'm thinking of taking my 3w out, and changing the loft of 5w to 16*, and leaving the 19* hybrid, so I can add a 60* wedge.
    Cobra King F9 9* Tensei Pro Orange 60
    Cobra King F9 3w 14.5*
    Cobra King F6 Baffler 5w 17.5*
    Cobra King F9 4i Tour AD-IZ hybrid 95 18.5*
    Cobra King F6 irons 5-GW
    Titleist Vokey SM7 56*
    Ping Glide 2.0 60*
    Scotty Newport 2
  • getitdailygetitdaily Members Posts: 2,440 ✭✭
    bodhi555 wrote:


    I guess my main concern is around trajectory - I do hit a very high ball hence gravitating more towards long irons to keep it down. I'll be keeping the 2 iron in the locker for windy days and game on the Links (same thing I guess), but is it possible to get a hybrid which keeps the ball down?




    Sure. Just look for the models that have weight bias forward...



    Callaway Apex

    TM m1/m3

    Titleist h1

    Cobra f series + models



    TM r15 was a really good hybrid for keeping the ball down.
  • Z1ggy16Z1ggy16 Members Posts: 7,436 ✭✭
    Depends on your swing speed, dynamic conditions and shot selection.



    Assuming these are carry distances - 270 carry means you have some speed. If you don't need the 220-230 yard shot into par 5's/long par 3's very often than 5w is probably out. Some tour guys love the towering flight but for me, they go insanely high and the wind eats them up. So that leaves hybrid or long iron.



    I have both because I play different courses that can use either or, depending on the situation. I use the hybrid on courses with the shorter par 5's that I can try and reach in 2 shots, or courses that might have bunkers in that 240-250 yard range that makes 3w a bad choice, and makes it a very tough driver because any kind of miss hit risks landing in them. I use the long iron for courses with tighter fairways and/or par 5's that I know I won't bother going for in 2. It primarily becomes a tee club, or something I might use to chip out under trees but I have an angle down the fairway and I'm not in deep rough.



    The hybrid is muuuuuch easier out of bad lies than the long iron though. Also, a hybrid can be used to chip from off the fringe, where a 3i really isn't. Hybrid usually ends up in the bag but the 3i is easier to control, with a little bit less utility.
    WITB
    OG Epic Sub Zero HZRDUS Smoke 60 6.5
    LTD Tour Blue 75X
    818H2 Tour Blue 85x or Rogue Tour Blue 85x
    P790 4i Modus 120X
    P770 5-PW Modus 120X
    Stealth 2.0 50/10SS AMT Wedge
    Stealth 2.0 54/12SS AMT Wedge
    Stealth 2.0 58/10SS or SM6 60/08M Modus 125 Wedge
    TP Ardmore 2 Red-White or TP Juno
    ProV1x
    Sun Mountain 4.5 Bag

  • James the Hogan FanJames the Hogan Fan Members Posts: 495 ✭✭
    I can’t speak for driving irons, but 5 woods for me have always had a couple of problems; I don’t hit them with any consistency, and if I do catch one it often hops over greens.



    So when I had the same sort of problem, that my 2 iron stopped working and became a liability, I had the same gap to fill. After trial and error, on a whim I bought an 18° Big Bertha Diablo 2 hybrid with the stock shaft from Play-it-again. $30 for a consistent 230yd laser beam, and my go-to for Par 5’s and tight par 4’s. Put me in the hybrid camp.

    Golfing in Finland!
  • lefty1978lefty1978 Members Posts: 287 ✭✭
    Does your current set have a 3 iron option you can pick up? That might be an option and would work.
    Callaway Rogue Sub Zero 9.0° w/ HZRDUS Smoke 6.0 60g
    Callaway Epic Sub Zero 3w 15° w/ Aldila Rogue Max 75g
    Callaway Apex Hybrid 20° w/ Kuro Kage 80g
    Mizuno MP-54 4i-PW w/ DG S300
    Mizuno S18 52°/9 w/ DG S400
    Mizuno S18 56°/10 w/ DG S400
    Mizuno S18 60°/6 w/ DG S400
    Ping Cadence TR Anser 2 Putter
    Srixon Q-Star Tour golf balls
  • jvincentjvincent Members Posts: 623 ✭✭
    bodhi555 wrote:




    What are my best options? I played on holiday over Xmas and the rental set had an 818 H2 in there, only hit it once but it went like a rocket - nice and low and around the distance I'm looking for. So the 818 H2 19 degree is definitely one I'll be looking at, but are there any other options out there? Only manufacturer I'm not really insterested in is Ping, so am all ears for other suggestions.




    My distances are similar to yours, except I have a 4W instead of a 3w.



    I ended up going with a Cobra 3-utility. I am more confident with it than with a hybrid and it fits the yardage gap nicely. I reshafted mine with the same shaft that is in my irons and it works great.

    Cobra F9 9* : Tour AD TP 7-S
    Cobra LTD set at 16* : Tour AD TP 8-S
    Cobra 3U set at 19.5* : Nippon Modus3 130-S
    Wishon 565MC 4-PW : Nippon Modus3 130-S
    Cleveland RTX3 50, 54, 58 : Nippon Modus3 130-S
    Piretti Potenza 370g : Breakthrough Technology Stability Shaft - 34"

  • IvyguyIvyguy Members Posts: 1,472 ✭✭
    jvincent wrote:

    bodhi555 wrote:




    What are my best options? I played on holiday over Xmas and the rental set had an 818 H2 in there, only hit it once but it went like a rocket - nice and low and around the distance I'm looking for. So the 818 H2 19 degree is definitely one I'll be looking at, but are there any other options out there? Only manufacturer I'm not really insterested in is Ping, so am all ears for other suggestions.




    My distances are similar to yours, except I have a 4W instead of a 3w.



    I ended up going with a Cobra 3-utility. I am more confident with it than with a hybrid and it fits the yardage gap nicely. I reshafted mine with the same shaft that is in my irons and it works great.




    That's a great option.



    The utility isn't exactly a driving iron.
  • jvincentjvincent Members Posts: 623 ✭✭
    Ivyguy wrote:

    jvincent wrote:

    bodhi555 wrote:


    What are my best options? I played on holiday over Xmas and the rental set had an 818 H2 in there, only hit it once but it went like a rocket - nice and low and around the distance I'm looking for. So the 818 H2 19 degree is definitely one I'll be looking at, but are there any other options out there? Only manufacturer I'm not really insterested in is Ping, so am all ears for other suggestions.




    My distances are similar to yours, except I have a 4W instead of a 3w.



    I ended up going with a Cobra 3-utility. I am more confident with it than with a hybrid and it fits the yardage gap nicely. I reshafted mine with the same shaft that is in my irons and it works great.




    That's a great option.



    The utility isn't exactly a driving iron.




    Yup. I didn't really see the point in a club that I can hit over 220. Let's be honest I'm not that consistent and I'd rather have something that goes 215 max but that I hit more consistently. I play it at "standard" 3-iron length.

    Cobra F9 9* : Tour AD TP 7-S
    Cobra LTD set at 16* : Tour AD TP 8-S
    Cobra 3U set at 19.5* : Nippon Modus3 130-S
    Wishon 565MC 4-PW : Nippon Modus3 130-S
    Cleveland RTX3 50, 54, 58 : Nippon Modus3 130-S
    Piretti Potenza 370g : Breakthrough Technology Stability Shaft - 34"

  • ChipNRunChipNRun Members Posts: 1,336 ✭✭
    Smaller club manufacturer Tour Edge has a hybrid you might like, but I don't know if you can tap their supply chain.



    The CBX hybrid model features 1-degree loft changes from 16*-20*, and then jumps to 22*. The TE reps bill it as left-proof. It has robust stock shafts from the Project X HZRDUS Black and Kuro Kage Silver models.



    The TE site: https://www.touredge.com/products/cbxhybrid.asp



    One thing to consider is a club that will give you distance out of the rough. A 3H might be better for this than a driving iron. You obviously have excellent clubhead speed if you worry about ballooning a 5W. (If your drives are always down the middle, ignore this paragraph.)
    What's In The Bag *...

    Driver: Calla XR16 Pro 10.5° (set open) / Fuji Evolution II TS Speeder 665 R-flex 63 gr.
    FWs: Tour Edge XRail 4W + 7W / GraphiteDesign G60 R-flex 60 gr.
    or Calla Alpha 815, set 16° + 20° / Fuji Motore Speeder 665 R-flex 62 gr.
    Hybrid: Cobra FlyZ 3H 19° + 4H 22° / Matrix VLCT Altus Lite flex 73 gr.
    Irons: Tour Edge CB Pro Tungsten 4i - PW** / KBS Tour 90 R-flex 101 gr. (As of 21 Nov 2018)
    Wedge: Calla MD3 48°/8.SS + 54°/12.WS +
    MD.PM 60°/10  | KBS Tour R-flex 110 gr. |
    Putter: Slotline Inertial SL-583F / 34" w. SuperStroke 2.0 MidSlim grip
    Bag: Sun Mountain Three 5 stand bag
    Ball: Calla SuperSoft
    * Either 7W or 3H left out, depending on course.
    ** Wedges: 46°and 48°are competing for bag space.
  • gbartkogbartko Whooooo! Members Posts: 663 ✭✭
    Hybrid for versatility.

    Ping Rapture 12.5
    TEE CB4 Tour 16.5
    Callaway x2Hot Pro 20/23
    Ping i E1 5-U
    Ping Glide ES 54.5/60
    Ping iN Half Wack-e
    Titleist DT TruSoft

  • JJK947JJK947 Members Posts: 3,092 ✭✭
    Hybrid is going to give you the most variety of shots in one club without trying to hard. It will be hard to recreate the low/control stinger shot of the 2 iron off the tee and bring it in and stop it as quick as a 5 wood but it covers most of the middle ground. Or just switch out the 2 iron and 5 wood depending on the course and what shots you're going to need.

    Taylormade M5 (9) - Tensei Pro Orange 60
    Taylormade M3 T3 (14) - Tensei Pro Orange 70
    Taylormade M3 5W (19) - Tensei Pro Orange 80
    Srixon Z945 3-PW - DG Tour X100
    Taylormade TP EF 54.11 - DG Tour X100
    Taylormade TP EF 60 ATV - KBS Tour Wedge
    Scotty Cameron Studio Style NP2

  • uwhockey14uwhockey14 Members Posts: 266 ✭✭
    Hybrids have been out for what?!?! close to 20 years, i'm still trying to figure this question out!!! I miss the days when I had a the back for the 2-Iron that matches my Irons.... from 225-260 I am pretty much lost.... lol
    Titleist 913D2/D3 (8.5) Stiff Diamana
    Sonartec 14* Aldila NV Stiff
    Sonartec 19* Fujikura Tour Platform (Stiff) 
    Mizuno MP Fli-Hi Cut Muscle 3-Iron (Project X 6.0)
    Titleist 681 Custom Grind (Project 5.5)
    Titleist Vokey RAW 252.08 256.12 260.12 (Custom Grind) DG S200
    Cobra Greg Norman (U-Model) Putter 
    Ping Hoofer (Team USA)
    Driver Cover (Black Lab)
    3-Wood Cover (USA knit pom pom)
    Putter Cover (Team USA 2016 Ryder Cup)
  • bodhi555bodhi555 Members Posts: 788 ✭✭
    Cheers folks, I've just been down to my club for an iron fitting (not buying new, just getting lofts and lies checked) and asked the fitter about the gap. He gave me an 818 H2 with Rogue Max X flex in it and I am sold. 220 - 230 yards consistent off the deck, same off a tee and lower trajectory than even my 2 iron.



    Sounds like witchcraft to me that a 19 degree hybrid can go lower than a 17 degree 2 iron, but I like it. Just waiting for bonus month now and one will be ordered.
    The Blue Thunder: Nike Vapor Fly - 9.5 degree - Speeder Evolution 757X
    The Stenson: Titleist 917 F3 15 degree - Aldila Rogue Max 75X
    The Walking Stick: Titleist 818 H2 19 degree - Aldila Rogue Max 85X
    The Blades: Nike VR Pro 4i - PW - DG S400 TI Shaft
    The Rusties: Nike Engage 50, 54 Square Sole, 58 Toe Sweep
    The Putter: Nike "The Oven" Method 003
    Balls: Nike RZN Tour Black/Platinum, Bridgestone Tour B XS, Titleist AVX
    Bag: Sun Mountain Four Five


  • ThrummyfoxThrummyfox Members Posts: 1

    Find this topic fascinating, set composition. Been lucky enough to acquire a ‘squad’ of clubs over the last few years on the whole by buying models when replaced in shelf life. Last year it was the original Ping Crossover, though finding my 20 degree G15 hybrid more.effective out of lush or wet rough for me than 21 degree c:/o, (which is more accurate on long par 3s for whatever reason!).

    This year have invested in Ping g400 stretch 3 wood and 5 wood. Now the driver has come into rotation because stretch is so long.

    In early part of season have been carrying w/52/58 to enable 5 wood and Rapture 2 iron because despite living inland uk it’s quite a windy area, so use stretch and rapture into wind and 5 wood when it’s behind!

    Trying to match clubs to course and conditions through planning now, to make it easier to concentrate on playing. Only one I’ve never really been able to factor in is a 64 degree Cleveland wedge I won in a competition!

  • mxskiermxskier Members Posts: 441 ✭✭

    This is quite literally the same dilemma that I'm going through right now. Have a 3H, but I'm not super consistent with it, though I can certainly bash it out there. I swing my 3W comfortably, and I'm going to tinker with a 5W. But then there's the idea of a 3 iron/2iron also, which is appealing. Very confusing.

    Ping G400 LST Tour 65S
    Cobra F8+ 3W/5W VA Slay 75
    Callaway Apex Pro 19 4-PW Oban CT 115
    Vokey SM7 50/54/60 Oban CT 115
    TaylorMade Spider X
    Taylormade TP5
  • BearQBearQ Members Posts: 3,491 ✭✭

    I swap my 3w - utility spot with quite a lot of clubs.

    My p790 Udi setup has been so reliable off the tee it sees the most usage.

    I played an i15 17* hybrid with kbs tour hybrid for several years and just replaced it with a tour b 18*. No clue how far it will go in real course conditions but ideally it’s for cold/rain/swing off/long course.

    In summer if my swing is on, it’s still 95% driving iron.

    Cobra LTD Pro 9.5* - Matrix Type C 70X
    TM M2 Tour 15* - Matrix Black Tie 80M4-X
    Bridgestone XD-H 18* - Speeder TS 9.8X 
    Srixon Z945 (4-P) - Nippon SPB X
    Cobra MB (50*)  Nike VR Forged (56DS)  Cleveland RTX2 raw (60.08W)
    Spider Tour Black 






  • Chuck905Chuck905 Members Posts: 1,196 ✭✭

    Very pleased with my 17* U45 with a Recoil 110.

    Be warned, if you find the the right utility iron and shaft combo, it can kick out your 15* 3 wood.

    I actually had to trade in my 3 wood for a 13.5*

    Epic SZ 10*, Tensei White 75
    Epic SZ Strong 3 Wood, 13.5*
    U45 17*, Recoil 110
    3-PW Mizuno MP18 Blades
    Mizuno T7s 54-8 SW and 58-12 LW
    Ping Redwood
  • ChrisO72ChrisO72 Members Posts: 59 ✭✭

    I'd say strong hybrid - 17 or 18 degree. Try a few out to check distance and trajectory, but at that loft they should not be too high. Great for par 5s when the 3 wood is too much. Great from the rough. Also great for chipping from the fringe.

    WITB:
    Ping G400Max 9dg Tour 65S
    Ping G400 2h Tour 85S
    Titleist AP3 4-GW TT AMT White X100
    Vokey SM7 50.08F, 54.08M, 58.08M
    Scotty Cameron Newport 2.5
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