Spieth back to old Driver

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  • lowheellowheel LOWHEEL Members Posts: 6,130 ✭✭

    lowheel wrote:


    J13 wrote:



    I just think Speith had a great year and a half where he couldn't miss putts. He peaked very early, still has some wins in him... But nothing like what he was in 2015. He doesn't dominate the game in any category anymore. As soon as his putter cooled down, so did he.




    Exactly. Speith is super streaky with the putter and as a result will be a guy that wins a tourney here and there and maybe a major. His swing is not good enough to win a big tourney with a mediocre putter and that's just a fact.


    For a guy who's went 26-4-23-2-23 strokes gained tee to green In His career I'd say his swing is plenty good to win




    Yeah but facts are lazy image/wink.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=';)' />. his situational play has cost him in the last 12-16 months. hes had plenty of opportunities and didnt pull victories out. He'll grow from that. Guy has the heart of a lion. Could have mailed it in on sunday after starting bad (+3) but grinded back to even. hes on the cusp in my opinion




    True you know as well as I do how anyone at that caliber it's not a golf swing issue 99% off the time , it's upstairs




    Exactly. The difference in mental edge at that level is insanely tiny. One upswing/ uptick in that and you have a guy who wins 4-5 times a year, one small blip and a winless season happens.Spieth is still learning and dealing with expectations and it doesnt seem like hes the type to shy away and make statements like rory did about being content and what not. Look at justin rose. it took until he was what 31-32-33 to figure out how to be elite and to stay there.Extremely driven elite ball striker who improved the other aspects of his game so much that he became #1 in the world. I will worry about Spieth when hes not factor in majors.He almost won 2 last year without his best stuff. that tells me alot about his heart, resilience and talent.hes battling 3-4 bad holes a tourney now that he never did before. hes bright enough to figure out how to eliminate those.
  • bblack_91240bblack_91240 Members Posts: 83 ✭✭
    edited Jan 30, 2019 10:21pm #63
    He seemed like he was going to be vintage Spieth at Torrey except, like the post above, for a few bad holes. He was even all over the place on Saturday I believe it was. Still put a good round together.
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  • Pent08Pent08 Members Posts: 1,066 ✭✭
    Considering that Spieth is a feel player and that clubs change in appearance only, I'd say it's a wise decision.
  • MattyO1984MattyO1984 Members Posts: 4,777 ✭✭
    When is he next due to tee it up? Figure as a past winner at Pebble that he will be there.
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  • BB28403BB28403 Members Posts: 3,576 ✭✭
    Holy Moses wrote:
    Jeffyr11 wrote:

    Holy Moses wrote:

    Jeffyr11 wrote:


    Thought that it was interesting to see Jordan Speith went back to his old driver to start the year.




    I thought he took the TS2 out last year after one tournament because it wasn't skinny enough [url="http://www.golfwrx.com/forums/topic/1709038-jordan-spieth-2018-witb/"]http://www.golfwrx.c...ieth-2018-witb/[/url]




    Just hard to believe with how much hype has been given towards the new Titleist drivers and they can't get him to stick with it.




    He'll get into it in the next few months. Spieth is a little slow to change into the new equipment. Either way, Titleist won this week's driver count, ball count, and iron count. They've gotta be really happy no matter what driver Spieth is playing.




    They write 100,000 checks for each. When you spend a fortune you win... I guess???



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  • KrazyTrain18KrazyTrain18 Members Posts: 3,163 ✭✭
    MattyO1984 wrote:


    When is he next due to tee it up? Figure as a past winner at Pebble that he will be there.




    If he's not playing Pebble then I'd have to imagine he's playing Riviera. Traditionally he hasn't played much of Florida so unless that changes he would have a lean lead up to Augusta.
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  • MattyO1984MattyO1984 Members Posts: 4,777 ✭✭

    MattyO1984 wrote:


    When is he next due to tee it up? Figure as a past winner at Pebble that he will be there.




    If he's not playing Pebble then I'd have to imagine he's playing Riviera. Traditionally he hasn't played much of Florida so unless that changes he would have a lean lead up to Augusta.




    He's teeing it up. That he is playing might be enough for me to bring myself to watch it even though for every Spieth shot, there will be 10 from Bill Murray to have to suffer through.
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  • bladehunterbladehunter Today was a good day.... Members Posts: 25,784 ✭✭
    edited Feb 6, 2019 7:51am #69
    J13 wrote:



    I just think Speith had a great year and a half where he couldn't miss putts. He peaked very early, still has some wins in him... But nothing like what he was in 2015. He doesn't dominate the game in any category anymore. As soon as his putter cooled down, so did he.




    Exactly. Speith is super streaky with the putter and as a result will be a guy that wins a tourney here and there and maybe a major. His swing is not good enough to win a big tourney with a mediocre putter and that's just a fact.




    How many strokes off do they give now for pretty swings ??
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  • CheckJVCheckJV Male Model Members Posts: 2,102 ✭✭
    BB28403 wrote:
    Holy Moses wrote:
    Jeffyr11 wrote:

    Holy Moses wrote:

    Jeffyr11 wrote:


    Thought that it was interesting to see Jordan Speith went back to his old driver to start the year.




    I thought he took the TS2 out last year after one tournament because it wasn't skinny enough [url="http://www.golfwrx.com/forums/topic/1709038-jordan-spieth-2018-witb/"]http://www.golfwrx.c...ieth-2018-witb/[/url]




    Just hard to believe with how much hype has been given towards the new Titleist drivers and they can't get him to stick with it.




    He'll get into it in the next few months. Spieth is a little slow to change into the new equipment. Either way, Titleist won this week's driver count, ball count, and iron count. They've gotta be really happy no matter what driver Spieth is playing.




    They write 100,000 checks for each. When you spend a fortune you win... I guess???



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    Exactly. The equipment surveys mean nothing until they normalize the data for dollars spent. Of course that will never happen because the manufacturers will never disclose how much cash they are spending on pay to play contracts.
  • bobcat88bobcat88 Members Posts: 237 ✭✭
    Spieth is all over the place right now. I always liked to see him playing well, but there's a serious consistency issue there.
  • new2g0lfnew2g0lf Members Posts: 3,363 ✭✭
    I fear Spieth is lost mentally, he's thrashing to place blame on something but the reality could be that those first few years he over achieved and now he's lost his edge. Haney called it at least 2 years ago, and while I'm no fan of Hank's I'm impressed that he went against the masses and said Spieth wasn't as good as his performance had indicated. He felt Spieth was winning due to his putting making up for other weak parts of his game and the level of his putting wasn't sustainable. He was right, Spieth lost his touch with his putter and he's struggled to find wins.
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  • gvogelgvogel Members Posts: 7,315 ✭✭
    new2g0lf wrote:


    I fear Spieth is lost mentally, he's thrashing to place blame on something but the reality could be that those first few years he over achieved and now he's lost his edge. Haney called it at least 2 years ago, and while I'm no fan of Hank's I'm impressed that he went against the masses and said Spieth wasn't as good as his performance had indicated. He felt Spieth was winning due to his putting making up for other weak parts of his game and the level of his putting wasn't sustainable. He was right, Spieth lost his touch with his putter and he's struggled to find wins.




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  • MattyO1984MattyO1984 Members Posts: 4,777 ✭✭
    new2g0lf wrote:


    I fear Spieth is lost mentally, he's thrashing to place blame on something but the reality could be that those first few years he over achieved and now he's lost his edge. Haney called it at least 2 years ago, and while I'm no fan of Hank's I'm impressed that he went against the masses and said Spieth wasn't as good as his performance had indicated. He felt Spieth was winning due to his putting making up for other weak parts of his game and the level of his putting wasn't sustainable. He was right, Spieth lost his touch with his putter and he's struggled to find wins.




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  • new2g0lfnew2g0lf Members Posts: 3,363 ✭✭
    gvogel wrote:

    new2g0lf wrote:


    I fear Spieth is lost mentally, he's thrashing to place blame on something but the reality could be that those first few years he over achieved and now he's lost his edge. Haney called it at least 2 years ago, and while I'm no fan of Hank's I'm impressed that he went against the masses and said Spieth wasn't as good as his performance had indicated. He felt Spieth was winning due to his putting making up for other weak parts of his game and the level of his putting wasn't sustainable. He was right, Spieth lost his touch with his putter and he's struggled to find wins.




    Danny Choo might be right. image/taunt.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':taunt:' />




    Not sure who Danny Choo is, I'm just sharing what Hank said about 2 years ago. I didn't agree with him at the time, but so far he's been pretty accurate.
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  • SurfDufferSurfDuffer Members Posts: 3,009 ✭✭
    edited Feb 7, 2019 9:00am #76


    This thread is funny. He didn't " go back " to the 915. He never left it. He used the TS something for 3 rounds. And drove it poorly even for his standards. There's no switch back. It was a test that failed.




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  • bladehunterbladehunter Today was a good day.... Members Posts: 25,784 ✭✭
    edited Feb 7, 2019 11:34am #77
    new2g0lf wrote:


    I fear Spieth is lost mentally, he's thrashing to place blame on something but the reality could be that those first few years he over achieved and now he's lost his edge. Haney called it at least 2 years ago, and while I'm no fan of Hank's I'm impressed that he went against the masses and said Spieth wasn't as good as his performance had indicated. He felt Spieth was winning due to his putting making up for other weak parts of his game and the level of his putting wasn't sustainable. He was right, Spieth lost his touch with his putter and he's struggled to find wins.




    Going to be fun calling Haney out when this slump clears.



    His putting wasn’t the only stat he was best or near best at. His iron play was superb until this slump. His sand saves , birdie percentage etc top notch until this slump. To act as if the putting was just propping up a bad game is just not so. Just go look at the stats for yourself.



    This slump has a few root causes. And when they come to light it’s going to make sense. He is trending upward wait and see.
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  • new2g0lfnew2g0lf Members Posts: 3,363 ✭✭

    new2g0lf wrote:


    I fear Spieth is lost mentally, he's thrashing to place blame on something but the reality could be that those first few years he over achieved and now he's lost his edge. Haney called it at least 2 years ago, and while I'm no fan of Hank's I'm impressed that he went against the masses and said Spieth wasn't as good as his performance had indicated. He felt Spieth was winning due to his putting making up for other weak parts of his game and the level of his putting wasn't sustainable. He was right, Spieth lost his touch with his putter and he's struggled to find wins.




    Going to be fun calling Haney out when this slump clears.



    His putting wasn't the only stat he was best or near best at. His iron play was superb until this slump. His sand saves , birdie percentage etc top notch until this slump. To act as if the putting was just propping up a bad game is just not so. Just go look at the stats for yourself.



    This slump has a few root causes. And when they come to light it's going to make sense. He is trending upward wait and see.




    I hate to be in the position to defend Haney, but I'm not sure Haney is discredited if Spieth fixes his game and gets back to his old form. Hank still called for the slump when everyone thought he was unstoppable. Hank singled out his putting because it was so far beyond the rest of the Tour, he didn't think it was sustainable.
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  • bladehunterbladehunter Today was a good day.... Members Posts: 25,784 ✭✭
    new2g0lf wrote:


    new2g0lf wrote:


    I fear Spieth is lost mentally, he's thrashing to place blame on something but the reality could be that those first few years he over achieved and now he's lost his edge. Haney called it at least 2 years ago, and while I'm no fan of Hank's I'm impressed that he went against the masses and said Spieth wasn't as good as his performance had indicated. He felt Spieth was winning due to his putting making up for other weak parts of his game and the level of his putting wasn't sustainable. He was right, Spieth lost his touch with his putter and he's struggled to find wins.




    Going to be fun calling Haney out when this slump clears.



    His putting wasn't the only stat he was best or near best at. His iron play was superb until this slump. His sand saves , birdie percentage etc top notch until this slump. To act as if the putting was just propping up a bad game is just not so. Just go look at the stats for yourself.



    This slump has a few root causes. And when they come to light it's going to make sense. He is trending upward wait and see.




    I hate to be in the position to defend Haney, but I'm not sure Haney is discredited if Spieth fixes his game and gets back to his old form. Hank still called for the slump when everyone thought he was unstoppable. Hank singled out his putting because it was so far beyond the rest of the Tour, he didn't think it was sustainable.






    I’m not sure calling for the possibility of a slump for a tour pro who was on top of mt Everest qualifies Haney as smarter than a 5th grader. You could say the same about any pro playing. The game is made of ups and downs. He’s not doing anything except selling whatever snake oil that is on the commercials for his show.

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  • sheppy335sheppy335 TMAG Junkie Members Posts: 6,343 ✭✭
    I will also say this Haney likes to hear himself talk. He is nuts if he thinks Spieth has the yips.
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  • bandrzbandrz Members Posts: 957 ✭✭
    Y'all can hate on Haney all you want. I love his show. His recent assault on the USGA has been pretty fun, actually.



    oh yeah, Spieth is tied for the lead
  • bladehunterbladehunter Today was a good day.... Members Posts: 25,784 ✭✭
    bandrz wrote:


    Y'all can hate on Haney all you want. I love his show. His recent assault on the USGA has been pretty fun, actually.



    oh yeah, Spieth is tied for the lead




    Just give him a popsicle and all will be well. I’ll be shocked if after Jordan wins again if he doesn’t go on radio and give himself credit for his “ tough loving” Jordan through this. The guy is a carnival barker. Nothing more.
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  • md1mmd1m Members Posts: 791 ✭✭
    texcrom wrote:


    Titleist is #1 driver being played this week. Don’t think they are concerned.




    I pay more attention to the #1 driver played by guys who aren't required to use a certain driver.
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  • bandrzbandrz Members Posts: 957 ✭✭

    bandrz wrote:


    Y'all can hate on Haney all you want. I love his show. His recent assault on the USGA has been pretty fun, actually.



    oh yeah, Spieth is tied for the lead




    Just give him a popsicle and all will be well. I'll be shocked if after Jordan wins again if he doesn't go on radio and give himself credit for his " tough loving" Jordan through this. The guy is a carnival barker. Nothing more.




    liked for working "carnival barker" into the conversation. well done!
  • MattyO1984MattyO1984 Members Posts: 4,777 ✭✭
    For what it is worth, the TS3 was in the bag yesterday and today...looks like it is working well enough thus far.
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    He might need to go a draw based driver or set up!
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