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Scotty Cameron Phantom X Putters
JStang ·
Just saw this on golf.com. Looks like a nice, modern approach to the Futura line. The 5.5 looks good.
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'16 M2 | Rogue Fairway | 915H 2 | T-MB 3, 718 CB 4-PW | Vokey SM6 52, SM7 58 | Toulon LV
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I don't see where it's going to be possible to modify these with the welded flow neck that has been so popular with the X5 and 5W heads.
The topline and face are one piece aluminum with stainless wings. Unless the heel wing has a stainless stub protruding up through the top that the flow neck could be welded too I'm not sure it can be done.
I imagine this could impact sales if not an option for an aftermarket customization
UPDATE: It does look like a stainless steel stub up through the aluminum topline but not going to be much room for welding. Mod capabilities TBD
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Ping G410 15.5* Graphite Design ADDI 8x
Ping G410 21* ADDI 105x
Ping Blueprint 3- PW Modus 130X
Ping Glide Forged 54 60 s400
Cameron GSS 1.5 009. Sound slot, tungsten weights.
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Titleist 915Fd 15 Stiff Rogue Black
Titleist 915Hd 17.5 Stiff Diamana S+
Titleist 714 AP2 4-PW Stiff KBS Tour
Titleist Vokey SM6 50.08 & 54.10
Titlesist Vokey SM7 60.04
Scotty Cameron Futura 5S
ProV1x 2019
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Drivers: Titleist TS3 & Cobra F9
Fairway: Titleist 917F2
Hybrid: A-Grind
2 iron: Ping Rapture
Wedges: Ping Gorge 2.0 Stealth's
Putter: Evnroll 9.1
Balls: ProV1
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Taylormade M2 3 wood
Taylormade M4 5 wood
Taylormade RBZ 3 Hybrid/Callaway Hawkeye 7 wood.
Taylormade M6 irons 5 to pw,aw, sw, 2 degrees upright +half an inch longer
Callaway PM grind mack daddy 60 wedge
taylormade Burner speed/RBZ soft balls
Odyssey 7s black
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The entire black portion of the head is the insert material. They haven't done away with it, they've made it bigger.
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- Josh
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Scotty is obsessed with his putter lab and trying to get a better "roll." Meanwhile, its a putter for crying out loud. Just go back to making stuff that looks and feels good.
Driver: Callaway Rogue Sub-Zero 10.5* - Aldila Rogue Max 75x
3 Wood: Callaway Epic 15* - Aldila Rogue Max 85x
2-PW: Callaway X-Prototype MBs - Project X 6.5 flighted
52* Wedge: Callaway MD2 Slate S Grind
58* Wedge: Callaway MD2 Slate S Grind
Putter: Odyssey Sabertooth Versa
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yeah, still an aluminum face like the inserts of late.
BTW... this is A LOT more aluminum and A LOT less stainless than the previous models. That means the material costs should have decreased substantially yet the MSRP seems to be increasing. Designs also look like there will be considerably less stainless "waste" from the milling process (SS components not as deep or intricate so smaller blocks of SS and less cut-away material). Scotty trying to pick up some serious margin here...
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In looking at the Cameron website, it looks like there are .5 models for several of these heads. The standard model is what they are calling a mid bend and near face balanced, where the .5 model is a low bend shaft offering the putter head more flow. Sounds similar to the 5.5M heads.
I'm no welder but it does seem you're right in that there might be challenges faced with trying to weld necks to aluminum heads.
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Epic Flash SZ 15* Tensei PW 80TX
2-PW Ping Blueprint DG X7
55* MG Raw Tour issue S400
60* Hi-Toe Tour Issue S400
TOULON Garage San Diego
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I dont know how it is on your side of the pond but here aluminum is more expensive than Stainless steel. So you got that wrong. He is still using the same weight system i.e 10g/15g/20g so the ratio should be approximately the same.
From a manufacturing standpoint I dont think he has optimized the "waste" any more than before. All designs are optimized to keep manufacturing costs down. Thats a big part on why they look like they do.
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With this and the Pings yesterday I better book some extra shifts!
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Price per pound for aluminum may be more expensive but you get a larger block of aluminum at equal weights to stainless. I will differ to someone that knows more about market prices for 6061 Aluminum vs 303 Stainless...
He has definitely reduced the starting block size needed for the milling of the SS parts in these putters as compared to past Futura model releases. Again, I will differ to someone that knows more about milling...
In an economy that is seeing major margin compression across every industry you would be crazy to think they aren't looking for ways to reduce costs by using lower cost materials, optimizing production, and/or reducing waste
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PXG 0341X Gen2 15deg Fairway - AD-GP 8TX
PXG 0311X Gen2 1 DI - KBS Prototype Graphite 95X
PXG 0311X Gen2 3 DI - KBS Prototype Graphite 95X
PXG 0311T Gen2 4-PW - Dynamic Gold X7
PXG 0311T Sugar Daddy 51 - Dynamic Gold X7
PXG 0311T Sugar Daddy 56 - Dynamic Gold X7
PXG 0311T Zulu 61 - Dynamic Gold X7
PXG Brandon H - 34.5”
PXG Operator H - 34.5”
Toulon Indianapolis - 34.5”
PXG 50/50 Staff Bag
Bridgestone Tour B X
KaBoom Baby!
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3 Wood Cally Epic Flash Sub Zero 15* w/Smoke 70 gram-S
Cally Flash Hybrid 18.* Speeder VC8-S
Adams MB2 4-PW w/110SteelFibers
Putter.....Scott Cameron Select 1.5 Squareback
Bettinardi BB1F (2020) on order
Mac Daddy... PM..52* & PM 58*
Titleist 4up Carry
TM TP5-X
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Bringing this back from the dead a little bit: I agree with most of the comments here that the Phantom X's look garbage in photos, but they are far, far better in person. I want to hate them (and the bigger ones in the series do look ridiculous to me), but I was playing around with them in the shop this evening and the 5.5 sets up to the ball and rolls so, so well. The colors aren't great, but I can get past that.
I agree that it feels wrong to pay $400+ (!) for something that is mostly aluminum, but frankly this putter had a more pleasing setup and a fantastic combination of alignment/stability and toe flow than pretty much anything I have seen. The Betty Queen Bees right now are 100x more beautiful to look at and have that expensive feel, but for me the Phantom X are almost definitely better putters for getting the ball in the hole. There might be something to these...
Now, if we're talking modern Scotty retail blades, there is a reason I play one that is 11 years old...and the ones older than that were even better.
Titleist TS3 15*, EvenFlow White 75 6.0
Titleist TS2 HY 19*, EvenFlow White 90 6.0
Titleist 716 T-MB 3i PX 5.5
Mizuno MP59 4-6 PX 5.5
Mizuno MP69 7-P PX 5.5
Miura New Wedge 51* PX 5.5
Miura K-Grind 56* PX 5.5
Scotty Studio Select NP2 2008 33" / SeeMore X2 Black 33"
ProV1x
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Agree with some here that it looks terrible in photos but looks better in person. Rolled them today and just didn’t suit my style and felt they are way over priced. I’m thinking they should be around 350 range.
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“Should be” and “what Scotty can get away with” are two different things! I totally agree with you that $350 feels much more palatable, but on the flip side if Scotty can get $429 for it from a whole bunch of people, then I guess capitalism wins.
Doesn’t feel special but works super well and priced accordingly? Feels like the TM MO the past few years.
Titleist TS3 15*, EvenFlow White 75 6.0
Titleist TS2 HY 19*, EvenFlow White 90 6.0
Titleist 716 T-MB 3i PX 5.5
Mizuno MP59 4-6 PX 5.5
Mizuno MP69 7-P PX 5.5
Miura New Wedge 51* PX 5.5
Miura K-Grind 56* PX 5.5
Scotty Studio Select NP2 2008 33" / SeeMore X2 Black 33"
ProV1x