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New Cobra MIM Wedge

mrmikeacmrmikeac Advanced Members Posts: 358 ✭✭
The whole head is metal injection molded.



Looks great!
Driver: Ping G410 Plus, 10.5 Degrees set at 9.5, Weight Neutral, Tensei Orange 60 Gram Stiff
3 Wood: Callaway Epic Flash Sub Zero, HZRDUS Smoke 70 Gram 6.0
3 Hybrid: Ping G410 19 Degrees, Tensei Blue 80 Gram Stiff
2 Iron: Taylormade P790 UDI, Project X HZDRUS Black 85g 6.0
5-PW: Taylormade P760’s, Nippon Pro Modus Tour 120 Stiff
50 Degree: Cleveland RTX 4, 10 Bounce, Mid Grind, Black Satin, Nippon Pro Modus 125 Wedge Flex
54 Degree: Cleveland RTX 4, 10 Bounce, Mid Grind, Black Satin, Nippon Pro Modus 125 Wedge Flex
58 Degree: TaylorMade Hi-Toe, KBS Hi-Rev 2.0
Putter: Taylormade Copper Spider X, KBS CT Tour Putter Shaft, 34”
Ball: Taylormade TP5

Comments

  • nv00021nv00021 ClubWRX Charter Members Posts: 42
    Are those available now? Loved my Cobra PUR wedges but they are getting a little long in the tooth.
  • JagpilotohioJagpilotohio 45+ inch drivers are evil. Advanced Members Posts: 7,030 ✭✭
    edited January 22
    And this is good?....Bad?.... Doesn’t matter?



    I just looked up Metal injection molding on Wikipedia and I can’t seem to figure out why this process is something the average joe should care about or why Cobra would care to market a club that way.



    It is a quite interesting read, but I don’t see the benefits to the end user. It isn’t stronger or “better” that I can tell. Is it cheaper than casting or forging? Is it quicker? More precise? Will we get less expensive golf clubs?



    Lots of questions but I do find the new technique quite interesting.



    Read and learn:



    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metal_injection_molding
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  • the bishopthe bishop Advanced Members Posts: 3,166 ✭✭
    Does this process perhaps result in greater uniformity throughout the head as opposed to a traditional casting process? Maybe reduce or eliminate the chances of air pockets that can affect feel/sound? Just wondering - don't know.
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  • cforseliuscforselius Advanced Members Posts: 309 ✭✭
    Metal injection is based on plastic injection and if they share the same benefits it will produce heads much faster than regular castings and the tolerances will be better aswell.



    I only deal with plastic injection so these are my thoughts, but it is quite impressive how fast it can produce complex parts.
  • Kahn14Kahn14 Members Posts: 11
    What would you compare these wedges to amongst the competition? Would it be similar in performance to something like the MD4 or the RTX-4 or is this aimed at a completely different market?
  • JagpilotohioJagpilotohio 45+ inch drivers are evil. Advanced Members Posts: 7,030 ✭✭
    cforselius wrote:


    Metal injection is based on plastic injection and if they share the same benefits it will produce heads much faster than regular castings and the tolerances will be better aswell.



    I only deal with plastic injection so these are my thoughts, but it is quite impressive how fast it can produce complex parts.




    FAR. more complicated than plastic and more steps.



    Read this:



    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metal_injection_molding
    9.5* Cobra LTD, Old school Grafalloy Blue, 43.5"
    14* Cally 815 alpha fuji 665 X 42"
    16* Cally 815 alpha fuji 665 X, 41.5" (set to 17*)
    19* Titleist 816 H2 fuji 8.8X TS 40.0"
    4-9 2016 Hogan PTx, KBS Tour V, 120X
    Ping glide 2 46-12, 50-12, 54-14 (at 55) stealth, 60-14(at 61) stealth, All wedges Recoil Proto 125 F5
    33.5" Ghost spider slant neck.
    Srixon Z-star XV
    Jones Trouper Bag
  • Z1ggy16Z1ggy16 Advanced Members Posts: 7,020 ✭✭
    Hmmm yeah not sure the benefits of doing this for something that's not very complex in shape or structure. Perhaps a way to ensure better QC? It sounds like how they make sintered magnets for large motor applications when machining is difficult and needs to be really precision without machine steps.



    Kiiiiiind of seems like more of a marketing ploy than an actual technological jump in wedge performance. Also, as an aside, I really wish Cobra would make high bounce relief ground wedge design like the vokey D grind. I loved all my Cobra wedges but the "low" grind didn't have enough bounce for soft conditions. Many a sod was laid using my PUR's and my Tour Trusty's.
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  • Rpete33Rpete33 Advanced Members Posts: 491
    In for more info!
  • mrmikeacmrmikeac Advanced Members Posts: 358 ✭✭
    To help settle this MIM process decision by Cobra, I believe it is to tighten the tolerances from club head to club head to keep the consistency as tight as they can. Seems to be the trend in golf club manufacturing lately.
    Driver: Ping G410 Plus, 10.5 Degrees set at 9.5, Weight Neutral, Tensei Orange 60 Gram Stiff
    3 Wood: Callaway Epic Flash Sub Zero, HZRDUS Smoke 70 Gram 6.0
    3 Hybrid: Ping G410 19 Degrees, Tensei Blue 80 Gram Stiff
    2 Iron: Taylormade P790 UDI, Project X HZDRUS Black 85g 6.0
    5-PW: Taylormade P760’s, Nippon Pro Modus Tour 120 Stiff
    50 Degree: Cleveland RTX 4, 10 Bounce, Mid Grind, Black Satin, Nippon Pro Modus 125 Wedge Flex
    54 Degree: Cleveland RTX 4, 10 Bounce, Mid Grind, Black Satin, Nippon Pro Modus 125 Wedge Flex
    58 Degree: TaylorMade Hi-Toe, KBS Hi-Rev 2.0
    Putter: Taylormade Copper Spider X, KBS CT Tour Putter Shaft, 34”
    Ball: Taylormade TP5
  • DatSliceDoeDatSliceDoe Advanced Members Posts: 1,966 ✭✭
    So is this MIM stuff more durable? Tighter tolerances? Softer feel? I don't quite get it, but as long as they make the full assortment of wedges, I'm a buyer. My original King Cobra wedges are worn out.
  • Big BenBig Ben Advanced Members Posts: 8,895 ✭✭
    It’s probably easier to finish maybe less steps. Not much of a benefit to the end user but marketing non the less.
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  • HipCheckHipCheck Toed it a lil, Romes. Members, Marshals Posts: 6,209 mod
    edited January 22
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  • Papa JohickPapa Johick My Girl Duffners Advanced Members Posts: 4,449 ✭✭
    They do look nice
    Forever Changing at this point.......
  • GooseHookGooseHook Keep it Fraiche Advanced Members Posts: 11,594 ✭✭


    And this is good?....Bad?.... Doesn't matter?



    I just looked up Metal injection molding on Wikipedia and I can't seem to figure out why this process is something the average joe should care about or why Cobra would care to market a club that way.



    It is a quite interesting read, but I don't see the benefits to the end user. It isn't stronger or "better" that I can tell. Is it cheaper than casting or forging? Is it quicker? More precise? Will we get less expensive golf clubs?



    Lots of questions but I do find the new technique quite interesting.



    Read and learn:



    https://en.wikipedia...jection_molding




    You'd get a denser finished product than a straight-up casting, and the process produces less waste.



    A couple of my engineering buddies worked for DeWalt for a while. The "powdered" metal process is popular for making things like small meshing gears.
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  • ThreeBoxersThreeBoxers Advanced Members Posts: 81


    So is this MIM stuff more durable? Tighter tolerances? Softer feel? I don't quite get it, but as long as they make the full assortment of wedges, I'm a buyer. My original King Cobra wedges are worn out.




    Durability depends on the material used and finish.

    Yes to potentially tighter tolerances. Injection molding is more precise.

    Softer feel is based on material and geometry.



    In the end, MIM is just another type of manufacturing process and Cobra has a business to run. It wouldn't be used unless it provides a benefit to product profitability and quality, which could be reducing manufacturing time, scrap and rework of product that didn't quite turn out to spec.

    Its benefit is mainly for precision components but with this being a bladed style wedge (aka hunk of metal on a stick), I'm skeptical of significant benefits to the CONSUMER (might be better for Cobra's costs) And then marketing will get the hype machine turning. I see there's already a nice big "MIM" stamping, yet I don't see "CAST" stamped on my great feeling RTX2's...
  • AUTIGER07AUTIGER07 Just lost $1K on a putt Advanced Members Posts: 1,093 ✭✭
    Nice looking wedge
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  • andrieddleandrieddle Advanced Members Posts: 1,792
    Not in Bryson's or Rickie's bags yet.....probably soon
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  • Rpete33Rpete33 Advanced Members Posts: 491
    Anymore info on these?
  • nohny nokenohny noke Advanced Members Posts: 2,048 ✭✭
    Potentially cheaper for Cobra and they will probably charge more.



    Sounds like a great WIN/WIN for you and me!
  • Pack7483Pack7483 Advanced Members Posts: 602
    Any word on a one length version? I like my one length wedges, but would like to see more options and grinds.
  • AUTIGER07AUTIGER07 Just lost $1K on a putt Advanced Members Posts: 1,093 ✭✭
    Still interested in these. Was a big fan of the Tour Trusty and would definitely game Cobra wedges again.



    Just please make a 48* Cobra.
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  • Rpete33Rpete33 Advanced Members Posts: 491
    AUTIGER07 wrote:
    Still interested in these. Was a big fan of the Tour Trusty and would definitely game Cobra wedges again.



    Just please make a 48* Cobra.




    Don’t think they are coming out with a 48 just 50-60, I need more details as well as I will be replacing my wedges
  • dan_smeedan_smee Members Posts: 28 ✭✭
    Ugh. Need to make 62 and 64.
  • DatSliceDoeDatSliceDoe Advanced Members Posts: 1,966 ✭✭
    Any idea on release date?
  • mtex22mtex22 ClubWRX Charter Members Posts: 2,155 ClubWRX


    Any idea on release date?




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  • Rpete33Rpete33 Advanced Members Posts: 491
    mtex22 wrote:


    Any idea on release date?




    +1




    I emailed cobra asking about the king black wedge and they also said be on the lookout for the mim wedge being released in March or April
  • nDroid3nDroid3 Advanced Members Posts: 94 ✭✭
    March 1st is what cobra rep told me in an email.
  • nDroid3nDroid3 Advanced Members Posts: 94 ✭✭
    Actually, March 15th is what I got back from the cobra rep.
  • nDroid3nDroid3 Advanced Members Posts: 94 ✭✭
    Any one have info on stock shaft offering on this?
  • mtex22mtex22 ClubWRX Charter Members Posts: 2,155 ClubWRX
    nDroid3 wrote:


    Actually, March 15th is what I got back from the cobra rep.




    Cobra rep told me 4/15 I hope you are right!
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    COBRA Pur - 50V / 54V / 58V - KBS Hi Rev 2.0
    SCOTTY CAMERON Fastback 1.5 Custom / CARBON Holliday Flowneck Custom
  • nDroid3nDroid3 Advanced Members Posts: 94 ✭✭
    Ok. Now I got pre order date on March 26th, with a release date of April 12.
  • Brent310Brent310 Members Posts: 3
    nDroid3 wrote:


    Any one have info on stock shaft offering on this?




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  • TarheelTH50TarheelTH50 Members Posts: 10 ✭✭
    Pack7483 wrote:


    Any word on a one length version? I like my one length wedges, but would like to see more options and grinds.




    I am curious about this as well. Has anyone heard anything about a one length version yet?
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