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  • QuigleyDUQuigleyDU Advanced Members Posts: 5,972 ✭✭
    noodle3872 wrote:
    So the recoil of a tee can break the carbon sole pieces. Not sure I buy this theory. The tee should bend in the direction of the clubhead’s direction of travel not launch upwards like a spike. But in the fraction of a second that the clubhead is passing over the tee knocking the tee forwards, the tee is wreaking havoc on the carbon pieces. Nah, can’t get my head around that claim. The drivers pictured look like they’ve been abused.




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  • ignitewvuignitewvu Advanced Members Posts: 2,025 ✭✭
    edited January 28
    This is happening at many of the Demo spots, my local GG both heads they have to demo show the exact same cracks at the same spot.



    Eagerly awaiting the M5 V2 heads that should ship around june or so image/taunt.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':taunt:' />
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  • Captain Morgan Captain Morgan Advanced Members Posts: 689 ✭✭
    ignitewvu wrote:


    This is happened at many of the Demo spots, my local GG both heads they have to demo show the exact same cracks at the same spot.




    Must be that rubber tee they use.
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  • radimanradiman Advanced Members Posts: 4,482 ✭✭
    I cannot believe this wouldn't have been better tested. As mentioned earlier. Warranty would take care of it. But, it is a pain to deal with over and over again. Not a good look if someone is looking to demo the club only to find that the bottom is cracked.
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  • QuigleyDUQuigleyDU Advanced Members Posts: 5,972 ✭✭
    M5 TP to the rescue!!
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  • JagpilotohioJagpilotohio 45+ inch drivers are evil. Advanced Members Posts: 7,036 ✭✭
    I actually think it’s both hilarious and pathetic at the same time.



    Just to look at the main problem area makes you wonder how it seemed like a good design to anyone in the first place.



    I haven’t seen one in hand, but it looks like A wafer thin little sheet of graphite hanging off the edge of the metal track.
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  • Rig14PortRig14Port Advanced Members Posts: 733 ✭✭
    edited January 28
    noodle3872 wrote:


    So the recoil of a tee can break the carbon sole pieces. Not sure I buy this theory. The tee should bend in the direction of the clubhead’s direction of travel not launch upwards like a spike. But in the fraction of a second that the clubhead is passing over the tee knocking the tee forwards, the tee is wreaking havoc on the carbon pieces. Nah, can’t get my head around that claim. The drivers pictured look like they’ve been abused.


    Does this change your opinion about tees potentially damaging carbon fiber on a driver head?
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  • swgolf12swgolf12 Advanced Members Posts: 856 ✭✭


    Regular tees wouldnt do this. Looks like IF it is because of the tees, it is the large tees in mats. But still skeptical.



    The plight of the 30 handicaper bottoming out on a mat and blaming the tee.




    Who do you think TM is marketing clubs to, all the +7.2 135 CHS 190 MPH BS Golf WRXers? Bad design to have the carbon exposed on the bottom like that.



    I got to see the M5 and M6 in person and they look cheaper than the Cortex. You can tell that keeping everything under wraps caused them to rush things.
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  • Shanks2424Shanks2424 Advanced Members Posts: 206 ✭✭
    3woodvt wrote:


    Nothing but trouble for TM. This will be an issue. Excuses already blaming it on types of Tees. They have to be kidding.




    I can see down the road they will say you can only use this tee with this driver so dumb that is why i don't like taylormade m1-m6 drivers too much carbon on them
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  • JagpilotohioJagpilotohio 45+ inch drivers are evil. Advanced Members Posts: 7,036 ✭✭
    Rig14Port wrote:

    noodle3872 wrote:


    So the recoil of a tee can break the carbon sole pieces. Not sure I buy this theory. The tee should bend in the direction of the clubhead’s direction of travel not launch upwards like a spike. But in the fraction of a second that the clubhead is passing over the tee knocking the tee forwards, the tee is wreaking havoc on the carbon pieces. Nah, can’t get my head around that claim. The drivers pictured look like they’ve been abused.


    Does this change your opinion about tees potentially damaging carbon fiber on a driver head?






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  • scott_Donaldscott_Donald Advanced Members Posts: 2,212 ✭✭
    certainly interesting for the poor M5, I did think why have the overhang when I first saw bottom pics.



    I have a few white lines down my m3 track from white wooden tees.
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  • ironmikesironmikes Advanced Members Posts: 1,423 ✭✭
    I am sure if the people using these heads just ponied up for the TM tour issue tees this would not be happening image/golfer.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':golfer:' />
  • 3woodvt3woodvt 5 test drives for clubface contact. #footpowder Advanced Members Posts: 1,628
    Just gonna sit back and watch this thread explode...image/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' /> I see the potential for a Marshall to eventually get involved.
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  • b81smithb81smith ClubWRX Charter Members Posts: 720
    It’s actually funny how cheap it looks. Also why are a bunch of golfers asking if a golf club hit something. A driver hits a ball at 100 plus mph and needs to be able to withstand hitting a rock in he ground, etc. I always laugh when a non golfer thinks they’ll break my clubs. I say if you can break the club I’ll give ya 100 bucks. Hahaha. A strong man couldn’t snap a new graphite shaft over his leg. Just vent to a U shape and gave up because their shin hurt.



    I’d say that is a fake taylormade or its extremely **** poor made.
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  • cardoustiecardoustie haha, we don't play for 5's Advanced Members Posts: 11,368 ✭✭
    That overhang fails Design 101 .. Houston we have a problem



    i'm locked in on woods for next year anyways.
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  • blink3665blink3665 #TwistFaceExperience Advanced Members Posts: 5,943 ✭✭


    Regular tees wouldnt do this. Looks like IF it is because of the tees, it is the large tees in mats. But still skeptical.



    The plight of the 30 handicaper bottoming out on a mat and blaming the tee.




    Heaven forbid a 30 handicap demo's a driver. Maybe the reps should give warnings, "Are you under a 10 handicap? No? I'm sorry, you can't demo this driver. It's delicate and can't handle it if you hit the mat before the tee." (Forget about Rahm slamming his driver into the turf on Sunday... I'm sure that will be fine.)
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  • JagpilotohioJagpilotohio 45+ inch drivers are evil. Advanced Members Posts: 7,036 ✭✭
    I haven’t liked Taylormade woods for years so it’s pretty much irrelevant to me except for odd curiosity value of it.
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  • ignitewvuignitewvu Advanced Members Posts: 2,025 ✭✭
    b81smith wrote:


    It’s actually funny how cheap it looks. Also why are a bunch of golfers asking if a golf club hit something. A driver hits a ball at 100 plus mph and needs to be able to withstand hitting a rock in he ground, etc. I always laugh when a non golfer thinks they’ll break my clubs. I say if you can break the club I’ll give ya 100 bucks. Hahaha. A strong man couldn’t snap a new graphite shaft over his leg. Just vent to a U shape and gave up because their shin hurt.



    I’d say that is a fake taylormade or its extremely **** poor made.




    Unless clubs sent to Golf Galaxy at numerous locals were "Fake" then it's a major design flaw.........which it is TM is aware of it and reps are doing damage control to stores employees.
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  • EricWGolfEricWGolf Advanced Members Posts: 511 ✭✭
    Rig14Port wrote:

    noodle3872 wrote:


    So the recoil of a tee can break the carbon sole pieces. Not sure I buy this theory. The tee should bend in the direction of the clubhead’s direction of travel not launch upwards like a spike. But in the fraction of a second that the clubhead is passing over the tee knocking the tee forwards, the tee is wreaking havoc on the carbon pieces. Nah, can’t get my head around that claim. The drivers pictured look like they’ve been abused.


    Does this change your opinion about tees potentially damaging carbon fiber on a driver head?Abmrlb.md.jpg




    Hey, I have one of those pictures too!



    AYDOpm.md.jpg
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  • JStangJStang Advanced Members Posts: 2,368 ✭✭
    EricWGolf wrote:

    Rig14Port wrote:

    noodle3872 wrote:


    So the recoil of a tee can break the carbon sole pieces. Not sure I buy this theory. The tee should bend in the direction of the clubhead's direction of travel not launch upwards like a spike. But in the fraction of a second that the clubhead is passing over the tee knocking the tee forwards, the tee is wreaking havoc on the carbon pieces. Nah, can't get my head around that claim. The drivers pictured look like they've been abused.


    Does this change your opinion about tees potentially damaging carbon fiber on a driver head?Abmrlb.md.jpg




    Hey, I have one of those pictures too!



    AYDOpm.md.jpg




    These are impressive pictures.
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  • b81smithb81smith ClubWRX Charter Members Posts: 720
    ignitewvu wrote:
    b81smith wrote:


    It’s actually funny how cheap it looks. Also why are a bunch of golfers asking if a golf club hit something. A driver hits a ball at 100 plus mph and needs to be able to withstand hitting a rock in he ground, etc. I always laugh when a non golfer thinks they’ll break my clubs. I say if you can break the club I’ll give ya 100 bucks. Hahaha. A strong man couldn’t snap a new graphite shaft over his leg. Just vent to a U shape and gave up because their shin hurt.



    I’d say that is a fake taylormade or its extremely **** poor made.




    Unless clubs sent to Golf Galaxy at numerous locals were "Fake" then it's a major design flaw.........which it is TM is aware of it and reps are doing damage control to stores employees.




    My bad. Didn’t know it was a post from a big box store and no history attached just a shotty looking driver bottom similar to that as a Chinese copy.



    Odd they wanted carbon fiber over hanging the channel a piece of metal moves back n forth thru. Lmao. I’m no engineer but god that looks breakable and fragile
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  • GooseHookGooseHook Keep it Fraiche Advanced Members Posts: 11,596 ✭✭
    What's just as baffling about this is that the overhang isn't even functional. The weight track doesn't go across the front of the sole anymore! You can even tell in the official product photos that the overhang is quite pronounced.



    Totally can see this happening, and it may not be isolated to a small percentage of heads.
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  • b81smithb81smith ClubWRX Charter Members Posts: 720
    EricWGolf wrote:
    Rig14Port wrote:

    noodle3872 wrote:


    So the recoil of a tee can break the carbon sole pieces. Not sure I buy this theory. The tee should bend in the direction of the clubhead’s direction of travel not launch upwards like a spike. But in the fraction of a second that the clubhead is passing over the tee knocking the tee forwards, the tee is wreaking havoc on the carbon pieces. Nah, can’t get my head around that claim. The drivers pictured look like they’ve been abused.


    Does this change your opinion about tees potentially damaging carbon fiber on a driver head?Abmrlb.md.jpg




    Hey, I have one of those pictures too!



    AYDOpm.md.jpg




    Holy ****. Assuming these are actual drivers is this type of issue a complete replacement similar to snapping a driver or iron at the hosel? All major companies replace the wood for free if it breaks during normal course of play.



    BUT a plastic tee going threw supposedly one of the lightest strongest materials we can manufacture is.....how you say hard to believe. Must be a 500mph swing. Like when a toothpick goes into a telephone pole in a hurricane right? I’d assume a complete full even custom order full replacement if a this **** happens. Wow
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  • radimanradiman Advanced Members Posts: 4,482 ✭✭
    b81smith wrote:

    EricWGolf wrote:
    Rig14Port wrote:

    noodle3872 wrote:


    So the recoil of a tee can break the carbon sole pieces. Not sure I buy this theory. The tee should bend in the direction of the clubhead’s direction of travel not launch upwards like a spike. But in the fraction of a second that the clubhead is passing over the tee knocking the tee forwards, the tee is wreaking havoc on the carbon pieces. Nah, can’t get my head around that claim. The drivers pictured look like they’ve been abused.


    Does this change your opinion about tees potentially damaging carbon fiber on a driver head?Abmrlb.md.jpg




    Hey, I have one of those pictures too!



    AYDOpm.md.jpg




    Holy ****. Assuming these are actual drivers is this type of issue a complete replacement similar to snapping a driver or iron at the hosel? All major companies replace the wood for free if it breaks during normal course of play.



    BUT a plastic tee going threw supposedly one of the lightest strongest materials we can manufacture is.....how you say hard to believe. Must be a 500mph swing. Like when a toothpick goes into a telephone pole in a hurricane right? I’d assume a complete full even custom order full replacement if a this **** happens. Wow




    It's not going through the carbon fiber itself. It's going into the seam.
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  • GooseHookGooseHook Keep it Fraiche Advanced Members Posts: 11,596 ✭✭
    b81smith wrote:






    BUT a plastic tee going threw supposedly one of the lightest strongest materials we can manufacture is.....how you say hard to believe. Must be a 500mph swing. Like when a toothpick goes into a telephone pole in a hurricane right? I’d assume a complete full even custom order full replacement if a this **** happens. Wow




    Carbon fiber is woven, and can be weak when it's hit from different angles. It can also be brittle, like for example when a thin piece of it is exposed at the edge where cracks can form.
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  • EricWGolfEricWGolf Advanced Members Posts: 511 ✭✭
    edited January 28
    radiman wrote:

    b81smith wrote:

    EricWGolf wrote:
    Rig14Port wrote:

    noodle3872 wrote:


    So the recoil of a tee can break the carbon sole pieces. Not sure I buy this theory. The tee should bend in the direction of the clubhead’s direction of travel not launch upwards like a spike. But in the fraction of a second that the clubhead is passing over the tee knocking the tee forwards, the tee is wreaking havoc on the carbon pieces. Nah, can’t get my head around that claim. The drivers pictured look like they’ve been abused.


    Does this change your opinion about tees potentially damaging carbon fiber on a driver head?Abmrlb.md.jpg




    Hey, I have one of those pictures too!



    AYDOpm.md.jpg




    Holy ****. Assuming these are actual drivers is this type of issue a complete replacement similar to snapping a driver or iron at the hosel? All major companies replace the wood for free if it breaks during normal course of play.



    BUT a plastic tee going threw supposedly one of the lightest strongest materials we can manufacture is.....how you say hard to believe. Must be a 500mph swing. Like when a toothpick goes into a telephone pole in a hurricane right? I’d assume a complete full even custom order full replacement if a this **** happens. Wow




    It's not going through the carbon fiber itself. It's going into the seam.




    I took that second photo. The tee went through the carbon fiber, not just in between the metal and CF at the seam. There was a hole in the CF.
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  • cardoustiecardoustie haha, we don't play for 5's Advanced Members Posts: 11,368 ✭✭
    Not being an engineer I ask ... are there not other super light & strong materials that could be as functional as carbon fibre on the bottom of drivers? Paint it to look like CF if need be



    I also recall guys were dropping their epics back into bags and hitting an iron and having the top cave in ....
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  • Big BenBig Ben Advanced Members Posts: 8,895 ✭✭
    edited January 28
    Pushing tolerances to the extreme and mix in a little bad engineering....
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  • 3woodvt3woodvt 5 test drives for clubface contact. #footpowder Advanced Members Posts: 1,628
    edited January 28
    Feel bad for those that go M5 and have issues as it appears there will be issues with this club. TM is #1 or #2 in the industry for woods, this just doesn't make a lot of sense. Anyway best of luck to fellow golfers and hoping you don't have any of these issues if you go down this rabbit hole.
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  • BeerPerHoleBeerPerHole Advanced Members Posts: 1,050 ✭✭
    Bonding those carbon fiber surfaces to the metal sub-structure has real challenges. Mention above of the problem caused by making those composites thinner. It's also works if you make them thicker. It's a modulus of elasticity problem. My son cracked the top of the head of his M2 after about a year of use. Years ago I had one of those Loco drivers (out of a sale bin) and it eventually cracked through the graphite. I'd make a certain change to the laminate, for starters.
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  • RobS14526RobS14526 Advanced Members Posts: 1,081
    Since this has now been moved to the club making forum, what Dremel attachment are you going to use to remove the lip on your M5? Straight to the little saw blade or maybe the the laminate router attachment.



    All kidding aside, I really hope it works out for all parties.
  • desailledesaille Advanced Members Posts: 1,631 ✭✭
    That’ll buff right out
  • 3woodvt3woodvt 5 test drives for clubface contact. #footpowder Advanced Members Posts: 1,628
    desaille wrote:


    That’ll buff right out
    That just creates a Space port to use another mfg's wording from a few years back...remove the Tee and keep pounding it! Makes it a lot easier to add hot melt as well.
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  • SirHoselRocketSirHoselRocket Advanced Members Posts: 275
    Price you’re gonna pay for the hottest legal driver..
  • mesomikemesomike ClubWRX Charter Members Posts: 485 ClubWRX
    Not surprised. There are numerous post on here about broken TaylorMade equipment, especially cracking faces. They have always seemed a little cheap to me. I bought a brand new tour issue tm hybrid from a reputable builder on this site and the weight wouldn’t slide as it was supposed to.
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  • Here comes the BoomHere comes the Boom Advanced Members Posts: 220 ✭✭
    Stop by a GG and saw same wear on their M5 demo
  • RedbirdRedbird Advanced Members Posts: 2,225 ✭✭
    I just got my M5 today and I honestly can't see how the **** you can hit that part of the club unless you take a divot with your driver. If you're one to slam your club down after a bad tee shot, I'd probably avoid that with this club.
  • noodle3872noodle3872 Chilliwack B.C. CanadaAdvanced Members Posts: 2,555 ✭✭
    Look at all the Tour WITB. These guys hit hundreds if not thousands of balls and none of the M5’s in the pics show this damage. Sure, it breaks, they get a new one and so on. I still believe the root cause of the carbon breakage is abuse.
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  • ToothpasteToothpaste Members Posts: 11
    noodle3872 wrote:


    Look at all the Tour WITB. These guys hit hundreds if not thousands of balls and none of the M5’s in the pics show this damage. Sure, it breaks, they get a new one and so on. I still believe the root cause of the carbon breakage is abuse.




    http://www.golfwrx.com/forums/topic/1737994-michael-hopper-southwest-pga-section-champ-witb-2019/page__pid__18567688#entry18567688
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  • dcmidnightdcmidnight Marshals, BST Volunteer Mods Posts: 11,489 mod
    Redbird wrote:


    I just got my M5 today and I honestly can't see how the **** you can hit that part of the club unless you take a divot with your driver. If you're one to slam your club down after a bad tee shot, I'd probably avoid that with this club.




    After a week or so, these are my thoughts as well. I just dont see how you could do it. That being said, IMO, its a terrible design, doesnt seem to add anything at all unless a simulation showed that it increased the aerodynamics.



    BUT - I've also been around a while and I feel like this happens with some OEM club or another every during release season. There are always a handful of reports about...something happening. I caved in the face of an RBZ 3 wood back in the day. Called TM and I had a replacement in my hand in less than 48 hours.



    I will say this, I've used plastic tees for the last ten years or so (Epochs or Prides). If this does happen and if TM admits its because of the tees - two huge ifs BTW - it will go down as one of the biggest laughingstocks in recent memory.
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  • Ed SettleEd Settle #InsideTMAG ClubWRX Charter Members Posts: 6,033 ClubWRX
    edited January 30
    dcmidnight wrote:

    Redbird wrote:


    I just got my M5 today and I honestly can't see how the **** you can hit that part of the club unless you take a divot with your driver. If you're one to slam your club down after a bad tee shot, I'd probably avoid that with this club.




    After a week or so, these are my thoughts as well. I just dont see how you could do it. That being said, IMO, its a terrible design, doesnt seem to add anything at all unless a simulation showed that it increased the aerodynamics.



    BUT - I've also been around a while and I feel like this happens with some OEM club or another every during release season. There are always a handful of reports about...something happening. I caved in the face of an RBZ 3 wood back in the day. Called TM and I had a replacement in my hand in less than 48 hours.



    I will say this, I've used plastic tees for the last ten years or so (Epochs or Prides). If this does happen and if TM admits its because of the tees - two huge ifs BTW - it will go down as one of the biggest laughingstocks in recent memory.




    Agreed. Did you see picture above? Just one of the Tour pictures from this week. That is not from hitting a simulator tee or Indoor mat tee.
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  • dcmidnightdcmidnight Marshals, BST Volunteer Mods Posts: 11,489 mod
    Ed Settle wrote:


    Agreed. Did you see picture above? Just one of the Tour pictures from this week. That is not from hitting a simulator tee or Indoor mat tee.




    I really cant overly concern myself with what happens to a tour head being swung by a tour player. I avg 108 ss wth the driver so tour swings are at least 10-15 mph higher than mine. The likelihood of me doing something to a club that a tour guy does is bordering on zero. Plus its impossible to say without knowing exactly who it was, what happened, how long they had the club etc.
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  • Big BenBig Ben Advanced Members Posts: 8,895 ✭✭
    edited January 30
    That’s not happening because of swing speed. It’s happening because the tee is jamming into that overlapping lip. I bet that lip will be reinforced or removed all together or this will continue to happen. It’s in the design not the materials or craftsmanship. Problem is I’m guessing that lip is there in the first place to prevent tees from jamming into the weight rail.
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  • Here comes the BoomHere comes the Boom Advanced Members Posts: 220 ✭✭
    Big Ben wrote:


    That’s not happening because of swing speed. It’s happening because the tee is jamming into that overlapping lip. I bet that lip will be reforced or removed all together.




    EXACTLY
  • t4t3rt4t3r Advanced Members Posts: 2,587 ✭✭
    Certainly doesn’t seem like the best design but TM would be one of my top choices as far as having to deal with a warranty issue. They have gone above and beyond on every issue I’ve ever had.
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  • bladehunterbladehunter Today was a good day.... Advanced Members Posts: 24,220 ✭✭
    edited January 30
    Big Ben wrote:


    That’s not happening because of swing speed. It’s happening because the tee is jamming into that overlapping lip. I bet that lip will be reinforced or removed all together or this will continue to happen. It’s in the design not the materials or craftsmanship. Problem is I’m guessing that lip is there in the first place to prevent tees from jamming into the weight rail.




    That’s correct. Pic above is a tour head. So no doubt it’s not simulator tee involved.
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  • ignitewvuignitewvu Advanced Members Posts: 2,025 ✭✭
    Toothpaste wrote:

    noodle3872 wrote:


    Look at all the Tour WITB. These guys hit hundreds if not thousands of balls and none of the M5’s in the pics show this damage. Sure, it breaks, they get a new one and so on. I still believe the root cause of the carbon breakage is abuse.




    http://www.golfwrx.c...8#entry18567688




    There are a lot of people in total denial on how bad this is gonna be to TM. The design is a mess.......I would expect in due time 50-70% of all M5's sold will have this issue if the owner actually plays a lot of golf. That number will go up exponentially if the golfer spends time at the drive range with Mats on Concrete.
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  • swgolf12swgolf12 Advanced Members Posts: 856 ✭✭
    dcmidnight wrote:

    Ed Settle wrote:


    Agreed. Did you see picture above? Just one of the Tour pictures from this week. That is not from hitting a simulator tee or Indoor mat tee.




    I really cant overly concern myself with what happens to a tour head being swung by a tour player. I avg 108 ss wth the driver so tour swings are at least 10-15 mph higher than mine. The likelihood of me doing something to a club that a tour guy does is bordering on zero. Plus its impossible to say without knowing exactly who it was, what happened, how long they had the club etc.




    The PGA Tour average is 5MPH faster than yours, and with the guys swinging 120+ that means there's plenty of guys swinging your swing speed on tour. You mentioned you caved a RBZ 3 wood, pros do that. It almost seems like you're going out of your way to say this is a non issue for TM, when the photographic evidence is saying something else.
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  • jll62jll62 ClubWRX Charter Members Posts: 1,963 ClubWRX

    Big Ben wrote:


    That's not happening because of swing speed. It's happening because the tee is jamming into that overlapping lip. I bet that lip will be reinforced or removed all together or this will continue to happen. It's in the design not the materials or craftsmanship. Problem is I'm guessing that lip is there in the first place to prevent tees from jamming into the weight rail.




    That's correct. Pic above is a tour head. So no doubt it's not simulator tee involved.




    That head belongs to a section pro, not a regular tour pro. Who's to say he isn't practicing out of a hitting bay periodically using mat with one of those fiberbuilt tees?



    Not saying that's the case, but just because it's a tour head does not imply a range tee isn't involved.
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