Does Spieth needs to make a change ???

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Maybe a caddy change would be a good shakeup ?

Maybe go see Butch ?

Something needs to be done .......
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  • golfandfishinggolfandfishing Members Posts: 3,583 ✭✭
    Maybe it’s marital problems?

    Also possibly an addiction of some sort.
  • UncleJohn’sBandUncleJohn’sBand Members Posts: 996 ✭✭
    Yeah he is terrible. He should probably just quit now because he is so bad.
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  • Man_O_WarMan_O_War Members Posts: 2,839 ✭✭
    no change.. just needs to find his old self...which i guess is a change from current.
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  • MattyO1984MattyO1984 Members Posts: 5,029 ✭✭
    Just golf being golf.



    I actually think the last couple of weeks he has been played has been better than what has been seen before it. A couple of good rounds at Torrey and the AT&T are good signs. Sure he frittered shots away when it got nearer to the business end of the tournament but that's a story we have seen before. I can recall Tiger and Butch talking about how you need to get things right on the range, then 9 holes of a tournament, then 18, 54 and 72 so he is half way along at the moment.
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  • JaNelson38JaNelson38 Members Posts: 2,749 ✭✭
    It never ceases to amaze me how whenever a pro tour player is "struggling", they are supposed to 'go see Butch', and the problems will magically disappear.
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    His caddy must get nervous everytime the phone rings
  • tbowles411tbowles411 ClubWRX Posts: 25,246 ✭✭
    edited Feb 11, 2019 9:01am #9
    I'm sure Greller is not the issue. For my money it's McCormack. He might be getting TOO much information and needs to have a simplified message. Too many thoughts and golf gets pretty hard, at least I know that's the way it is for me.
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  • jonsnowjonsnow GeorgiaMembers Posts: 1,294 ✭✭
    edited Feb 11, 2019 8:48am #10


    Maybe it's marital problems?

    Also possibly an addiction of some sort.




    Could also be personal struggles...


    JaNelson38 wrote:


    It never ceases to amaze me how whenever a pro tour player is "struggling", they are supposed to 'go see Butch', and the problems will magically disappear.




    It's definitely go see Butch or better call Saul.
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    JaNelson38 wrote:


    It never ceases to amaze me how whenever a pro tour player is "struggling", they are supposed to 'go see Butch', and the problems will magically disappear.




    Yea it's definitely a common refrain, but it's hard to argue with the results Butch gets.
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  • RangeballzRangeballz Members Posts: 1,764 ✭✭
    I think he just needs to relax, stop putting pressure on himself, and have some fun.



    This advice has served me well with virtually any issue I've faced.
  • FergusonFerguson Members Posts: 4,975 ✭✭
    jonsnow wrote:



    Maybe it's marital problems?

    Also possibly an addiction of some sort.




    Could also be personal struggles...


    JaNelson38 wrote:


    It never ceases to amaze me how whenever a pro tour player is "struggling", they are supposed to 'go see Butch', and the problems will magically disappear.




    It's definitely go see Butch or better call Saul.



    Maybe it's marital problems?

    Also possibly an addiction of some sort.






    These two have taken all of the good (and likely) reasons.
  • KonkliferKonklifer Thinkin' of a master plan... Members Posts: 7,908 ✭✭
    Rangeballz wrote:


    I think he just needs to relax, stop putting pressure on himself, and have some fun.



    This advice has served me well with virtually any issue I've faced.




    This. He always looks pained to be out there.
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  • Hawkeye77Hawkeye77 Countdown to The Open Championship! IowaClubWRX Posts: 18,150 ClubWRX


    Maybe a caddy change would be a good shakeup ?

    Maybe go see Butch ?

    Something needs to be done .......




    What's wrong with his caddy? What do you know about their relationship? Why is the caddy an issue for missing fairways or not hitting putts straight?



    Why the **** would he go see Butch? Guy leading AT&T doesn't see him any more.



    Why another thread about Spieth?
  • bladehunterbladehunter Today was a good day... south carolinaMembers Posts: 27,119 ✭✭
    You guys are hilarious with the Greller talk. That’s maybe the dumbest suggestion on earth. As if the caddie can somehow be the guy who’s supposed to shut up and keep up and yet be the blame when you don’t score ? GTFO. Maybe he needs to hire his high school mate like Rory. Lol. This place. Never change people.
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  • The Mad BomberThe Mad Bomber I seem to not like new things. Get off my lawn... Members Posts: 1,046 ✭✭
    Hawkeye77 wrote:



    Maybe a caddy change would be a good shakeup ?

    Maybe go see Butch ?

    Something needs to be done .......




    What's wrong with his caddy? What do you know about their relationship? Why is the caddy an issue for missing fairways or not hitting putts straight?



    Why the **** would he go see Butch? Guy leading AT&T doesn't see him any more.



    Why another thread about Spieth?




    What else are we going to talk about?



    He has two problems right now - his driving and his putting and I'd be the armchair analyst that says it's all mental. Maybe try Dr. Bob.
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  • The GeneralThe General Members Posts: 1,737 ✭✭
    he was essentially 2 holes from being right in the mix on sunday, and he had a ton of birdies. JS is very cerebral, one of the reasons I like him. Watch out when he gets it turned around.



    He def needs to go back to looking at the cup on certain putts.
  • Hawkeye77Hawkeye77 Countdown to The Open Championship! IowaClubWRX Posts: 18,150 ClubWRX

    Hawkeye77 wrote:



    Maybe a caddy change would be a good shakeup ?

    Maybe go see Butch ?

    Something needs to be done .......




    What's wrong with his caddy? What do you know about their relationship? Why is the caddy an issue for missing fairways or not hitting putts straight?



    Why the **** would he go see Butch? Guy leading AT&T doesn't see him any more.



    Why another thread about Spieth?




    What else are we going to talk about?



    He has two problems right now - his driving and his putting and I'd be the armchair analyst that says it's all mental. Maybe try Dr. Bob.




    You're already feeding the other troll thread on Spieth, maybe just feed one?



    Already at least 4 on the first page - "but my take is different", lol.



    Oh well, by this evening, everyone will be talking Tiger for the next several days.
  • bladehunterbladehunter Today was a good day... south carolinaMembers Posts: 27,119 ✭✭
    edited Feb 11, 2019 9:50am #20

    Hawkeye77 wrote:



    Maybe a caddy change would be a good shakeup ?

    Maybe go see Butch ?

    Something needs to be done .......




    What's wrong with his caddy? What do you know about their relationship? Why is the caddy an issue for missing fairways or not hitting putts straight?



    Why the **** would he go see Butch? Guy leading AT&T doesn't see him any more.



    Why another thread about Spieth?




    What else are we going to talk about?



    He has two problems right now - his driving and his putting and I'd be the armchair analyst that says it's all mental. Maybe try Dr. Bob.




    I agree it’s all mental. But are you saying micheal is the root of the Mental problem ? Cause that’s just trolls saying “ things”. It’s hilarious to watch the tiger effect when projected on other players.





    Wonder if the haters realize they are actually acknowledging the kids talent by treating him , Rory etc like tiger ? Nobody starts threads like this about guys like Terrel Hatton. Why ? No real expectations . To have expectations there has to be a proven talent. Talent doesn’t just go away. So here we are. Running down a guy in a slump.
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  • dlygrissedlygrisse KansasMembers Posts: 13,325 ✭✭
    He should retire, he's done.



    LOL, I am pretty sure he is going through some swing changes, and they haven't taken hold yet. When he was at his best he played kind of a weak slice off the tee and kept the ball in play. I remember when he won Augusta he stated he was just trying to bunt it out there with a cut. So like many others he is trying to "fix" his swing. He seems to be pounding it out there a bit farther but he has a 2 way miss. He gets confidence in his driver, he starts winning. He may never be as hot as he was with the putter again, but he knows how to win, and score, he has a knack for it and the confidence to compete under pressure.



    As weak as his grip is I don't know if he will ever be the purest striker of the ball off the tee, in my mind he should just keep playing the fade. Aim left and swing hard. But what do I know.

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  • Hawkeye77Hawkeye77 Countdown to The Open Championship! IowaClubWRX Posts: 18,150 ClubWRX
    A genuinely nice young man from Texas, with incredible talent, well spoken, nice family, EARNS historically significant wins in a short time on the PGA Tour. Those kind of stories just aren't worth reading.



    Wow, let's hate him, lol.
  • FergusonFerguson Members Posts: 4,975 ✭✭
    Hawkeye77 wrote:



    Maybe a caddy change would be a good shakeup ?

    Maybe go see Butch ?

    Something needs to be done .......




    What's wrong with his caddy? What do you know about their relationship? Why is the caddy an issue for missing fairways or not hitting putts straight?



    Why the **** would he go see Butch? Guy leading AT&T doesn't see him any more.



    Why another thread about Spieth?






  • The Mad BomberThe Mad Bomber I seem to not like new things. Get off my lawn... Members Posts: 1,046 ✭✭


    Hawkeye77 wrote:



    Maybe a caddy change would be a good shakeup ?

    Maybe go see Butch ?

    Something needs to be done .......




    What's wrong with his caddy? What do you know about their relationship? Why is the caddy an issue for missing fairways or not hitting putts straight?



    Why the **** would he go see Butch? Guy leading AT&T doesn't see him any more.



    Why another thread about Spieth?




    What else are we going to talk about?



    He has two problems right now - his driving and his putting and I'd be the armchair analyst that says it's all mental. Maybe try Dr. Bob.




    I agree it's all mental. But are you saying micheal is the root of the Mental problem ? Cause that's just trolls saying " things". It's hilarious to watch the tiger effect when projected on other players.





    Wonder if the haters realize they are actually acknowledging the kids talent by treating him , Rory etc like tiger ? Nobody starts threads like this about guys like Terrel Hatton. Why ? No real expectations . To have expectations there has to be a proven talent. Talent doesn't just go away. So here we are. Running down a guy in a slump.




    I'm of the opinion that Spieth would self-destruct if he didn't have Greller. That would be like the Pats firing Belichick after they lost a few games.
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  • The Mad BomberThe Mad Bomber I seem to not like new things. Get off my lawn... Members Posts: 1,046 ✭✭
    Hawkeye77 wrote:


    Hawkeye77 wrote:



    Maybe a caddy change would be a good shakeup ?

    Maybe go see Butch ?

    Something needs to be done .......




    What's wrong with his caddy? What do you know about their relationship? Why is the caddy an issue for missing fairways or not hitting putts straight?



    Why the **** would he go see Butch? Guy leading AT&T doesn't see him any more.



    Why another thread about Spieth?




    What else are we going to talk about?



    He has two problems right now - his driving and his putting and I'd be the armchair analyst that says it's all mental. Maybe try Dr. Bob.




    You're already feeding the other troll thread on Spieth, maybe just feed one?



    Already at least 4 on the first page - "but my take is different", lol.



    Oh well, by this evening, everyone will be talking Tiger for the next several days.




    You might be right. I don't scrutinize the threads to the point of even looking at who the OP is most of the time.
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  • agolf1agolf1 Members Posts: 1,229 ✭✭


    You guys are hilarious with the Greller talk. That's maybe the dumbest suggestion on earth. As if the caddie can somehow be the guy who's supposed to shut up and keep up and yet be the blame when you don't score ? GTFO. Maybe he needs to hire his high school mate like Rory. Lol. This place. Never change people.


    Blade - I love your posts, but I'm starting to wonder if you are the Mike Rooker guy that posts on PGA Tour website (and Golf Channel when they allowed it) image/rofl.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':rofl:' /> . Always a shot at Rory when the chance is there...



    Seriously, both these guys have amazing records and tons of talent. But none of us [bleeping] know whether either of them will be a bust or will go on to write more history from here.



    Without a real preference for either of these guys, I only find it funny when a Spieth fan (not you specifically) relies on X for optimism and dismisses Y for pessimism but then dismisses X and piles on Y for Rory (and vice versa).
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  • widow-makerwidow-maker Members Posts: 1,631 ✭✭
    Phil Mickelson had swing problems... until he didn't. Jordan's game will come back around, then go away, then come back around many times in the next 15 years. That's kind of how it works.
  • Hawkeye77Hawkeye77 Countdown to The Open Championship! IowaClubWRX Posts: 18,150 ClubWRX

    Hawkeye77 wrote:


    Hawkeye77 wrote:



    Maybe a caddy change would be a good shakeup ?

    Maybe go see Butch ?

    Something needs to be done .......




    What's wrong with his caddy? What do you know about their relationship? Why is the caddy an issue for missing fairways or not hitting putts straight?



    Why the **** would he go see Butch? Guy leading AT&T doesn't see him any more.



    Why another thread about Spieth?




    What else are we going to talk about?



    He has two problems right now - his driving and his putting and I'd be the armchair analyst that says it's all mental. Maybe try Dr. Bob.




    You're already feeding the other troll thread on Spieth, maybe just feed one?



    Already at least 4 on the first page - "but my take is different", lol.



    Oh well, by this evening, everyone will be talking Tiger for the next several days.




    You might be right. I don't scrutinize the threads to the point of even looking at who the OP is most of the time.




    I'm just home sick today and grumpy - so just trying to make sour lemonade out of my lemons, lol.



    At least I get to watch two holes of golf, lol. Luckily, they'll probably replay them 50 times on GC.
  • Man_O_WarMan_O_War Members Posts: 2,839 ✭✭
    Hawkeye77 wrote:


    A genuinely nice young man from Texas, with incredible talent, well spoken, nice family, EARNS historically significant wins in a short time on the PGA Tour. Those kind of stories just aren't worth reading.



    Wow, let's hate him, lol.




    people don't like living in the past.. well spoken, nice family...what's that got to do with golf? i hope he shuts up when he plays
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  • bladehunterbladehunter Today was a good day... south carolinaMembers Posts: 27,119 ✭✭
    agolf1 wrote:



    You guys are hilarious with the Greller talk. That's maybe the dumbest suggestion on earth. As if the caddie can somehow be the guy who's supposed to shut up and keep up and yet be the blame when you don't score ? GTFO. Maybe he needs to hire his high school mate like Rory. Lol. This place. Never change people.


    Blade - I love your posts, but I'm starting to wonder if you are the Mike Rooker guy that posts on PGA Tour website (and Golf Channel when they allowed it) image/rofl.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':rofl:' /> . Always a shot at Rory when the chance is there...



    Seriously, both these guys have amazing records and tons of talent. But none of us [bleeping] know whether either of them will be a bust or will go on to write more history from here.



    Without a real preference for either of these guys, I only find it funny when a Spieth fan (not you specifically) relies on X for optimism and dismisses Y for pessimism but then dismisses X and piles on Y for Rory (and vice versa).




    Lol. Simple observation that Rory sacked his caddie for a mate. And suggesting Spieth do the same is dumb.



    Rory has more natural talent than most any playing. And somehow uses 60% of it. That’s why he gets mentioned by me so much. I hate waste. Same people that usually take up for Rory start these “ spieth sucks “ threads. Usually with comments like “ ugly swing “ “ lucky” etc. as if one lucks into 3 majors by 25 with a bad swing ... lol. On paper spieth shouldn’t have 3 and Rory should have 12 by now. Funny how “ want to “ makes up that gap.
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  • bladehunterbladehunter Today was a good day... south carolinaMembers Posts: 27,119 ✭✭
    Man_O_War wrote:

    Hawkeye77 wrote:


    A genuinely nice young man from Texas, with incredible talent, well spoken, nice family, EARNS historically significant wins in a short time on the PGA Tour. Those kind of stories just aren't worth reading.



    Wow, let's hate him, lol.




    people don't like living in the past.. well spoken, nice family...what's that got to do with golf? i hope he shuts up when he plays




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