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  • aquapigaquapig Advanced Members Posts: 174
    Well a had a little something happen to ease the pain of losing my entire bag.



    Stopped by a pawn shop near where they caught the guys to see if maybe I could get lucky finding my sticks. The guys were really nice and helped me look through the database of all their stores to see if they could help locate them. No such luck.



    The owner said he had a couple of golf clubs in the back that he will selll me cheap if I wan interested. He didn’t know a thing about golf or golf clubs. He came out from the back with a 3 wood and Driver. They had old beatup rocketballz head covers. The 3 wood was a TM Jetspeed. The Driver was a 915 D2 with a Diamana Ahina x flex. Hmmm. I was very interested. I asked him how much and he said “idk how about 30.00 for both”..sold!



  • AndusAndus Members Posts: 35 ✭✭
    aquapig wrote:


    Well a had a little something happen to ease the pain of losing my entire bag.



    Stopped by a pawn shop near where they caught the guys to see if maybe I could get lucky finding my sticks. The guys were really nice and helped me look through the database of all their stores to see if they could help locate them. No such luck.



    The owner said he had a couple of golf clubs in the back that he will selll me cheap if I wan interested. He didn't know a thing about golf or golf clubs. He came out from the back with a 3 wood and Driver. They had old beatup rocketballz head covers. The 3 wood was a TM Jetspeed. The Driver was a 915 D2 with a Diamana Ahina x flex. Hmmm. I was very interested. I asked him how much and he said "idk how about 30.00 for both"..sold!
    Happy to hear something going your way. I'm in St. Pete too actually so I'll keep an eye out, I go to pawn shops in Clearwater too here and there, so if I see anything I'll let you know! It's unfortunate how big of an issue car theft has become. My car has been broken into twice right in my driveway for a pair of plastic sunglasses and maybe $5 worth of change. I'd have given it to them to not have to pay to get my door fixed!
  • aquapigaquapig Advanced Members Posts: 174
    Thanks Andus!



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  • MeanmachinemoeMeanmachinemoe Advanced Members Posts: 1,294 ✭✭
    edited February 24
    Sorry for your loss. Many years ago I took out a personal articles insurance policy. a few years after it paid off when thieves stole my clubs right out of my garage. The policy costs about $45 per year. It was so worth it. It even paid full cost of replacement. I hope you find your clubs.
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  • wobgonwobgon Advanced Members Posts: 7,434 ✭✭
    Every time this thread gets bumped, I check in hoping to see that you got your clubs back.....Good luck, I hope they show up.
  • MooJerseyMooJersey Advanced Members Posts: 409 ✭✭
    edited February 24
    Definitely file with insurance. Depending on your policy they will cover most of your loss. In my experience the police are absolutely worthless, and no help in finding your stolen goods. This goes for property damage as well. They want to give you a case # and move on. This is why insurance makes sense.
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  • Hanlpa01Hanlpa01 Members Posts: 35
    Not that it helps in the short term or replacement of the items but information as to where they unloaded everything might come out in the criminal prosecution of the thieves. It seems that they went on a spree with the purses and cell phones. It would be relevant to the prosecution if they add charges relating to the sale of the stolen items. Also in most states it’s a separate charge for receiving/buying stolen property. Therefore it could be in the prosecution’s interest to follow up and find out where everything went (i.e. lower the charges on the thieves if they give up the people they sold it to).



    Just a few thoughts that won’t help now but might give you longterm peace of mind.
  • MooJerseyMooJersey Advanced Members Posts: 409 ✭✭
    edited February 24
    Hanlpa01 wrote:
    Not that it helps in the short term or replacement of the items but information as to where they unloaded everything might come out in the criminal prosecution of the thieves. It seems that they went on a spree with the purses and cell phones. It would be relevant to the prosecution if they add charges relating to the sale of the stolen items. Also in most states it’s a separate charge for receiving/buying stolen property. Therefore it could be in the prosecution’s interest to follow up and find out where everything went (i.e. lower the charges on the thieves if they give up the people they sold it to).



    Just a few thoughts that won’t help now but might give you longterm peace of mind.




    A lot of this will depend on the state and how hard they are on criminal prosecutions. Given the facts stated, I can say with 99% certainty, in the State if Maryland this would be given what is known as a Probation Before Judgement (PBJ).



    Thieves show up to court, say sorry, my bad, promise to be good now. Pay court costs of approx. $80 and you never hear about anything relevant to the case.
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  • deadsolid...shankdeadsolid...shank ClubWRX Charter Members Posts: 14,334 ClubWRX
    I’ll add to everyone else’s sorry about the clubs, but congratulations on the new little one.



    Question, if a person finds their clubs at a pawn shop or Play it Again type place, what happens next? Do you actually get your stuff back?
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  • aquapigaquapig Advanced Members Posts: 174
    Thanks again for all who have given me advice.



    I have the Tampa dectective (he’s a fellow golfer) helping me. I emailed him a detailed list of my stuff.



    My fear is they dumped them or just sold them to someone in the hood for quick cash and that person will eventually sell them.



    Still have a hope..just not much.

  • kdog25kdog25 Advanced Members Posts: 1,546 ✭✭


    I’ll add to everyone else’s sorry about the clubs, but congratulations on the new little one.



    Question, if a person finds their clubs at a pawn shop or Play it Again type place, what happens next? Do you actually get your stuff back?




    I believe you do. Even tho those places may have thought they were purchasing in good faith it’s still stolen goods so they’re screwed. I could be wrong but I think that’s how it goes.
  • rtraudtrtraudt Advanced Members Posts: 1,737 ✭✭
    augustgolf wrote:
    FWIW - when I regrip my clubs, my ID is put under the new grip.



    Actually accidentally left a club behind on a green years ago. Went back to the groups behind me & I see my club in a player's bag. He was adamant it was his, but I took it out, and slit the grip about 3" up from the bottom - he looked a little ash-holey when he saw my ID there.



    Just a tip from your uncle augie.



    OP - I hope you recover your stuff




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  • aquapigaquapig Advanced Members Posts: 174
    You call the police and then prove that you reported them stolen and prove that the are yours.
  • BB28403BB28403 Advanced Members Posts: 2,723 ✭✭
    augustgolf wrote:
    FWIW - when I regrip my clubs, my ID is put under the new grip.



    Actually accidentally left a club behind on a green years ago. Went back to the groups behind me & I see my club in a player's bag. He was adamant it was his, but I took it out, and slit the grip about 3" up from the bottom - he looked a little ash-holey when he saw my ID there.



    Just a tip from your uncle augie.



    OP - I hope you recover your stuff




    No way you did that! No way. Lol



    I put my ID from amazon, weatherproof on the underside of the grip below it . Maybe one should carve their initials in the rubber somehow? Or burn it!
  • Swisstrader98Swisstrader98 Advanced Members Posts: 3,472 ✭✭
    Trust me when I say you will sadly NEVER retrieve your items.



    What’s typically done with stolen property is it goes through a bunch of hands before it ends up in an auction or a pawn shop. That way even if you can locate your stolen driver, there will be no one to blame.



    My wife owns an equestrian business and each rider owns a relatively expensive saddle. Thieves broke in and stole 7 saddles. Wife traced them on eBay because they all have serial numbers. Police were very good about trying to track it down and found the auction person but the goods went through about 4-5 sources before it got to this individual on eBay. Police don’t have the resources to track.



    Best remedy is to see what insurance can do for you. All other efforts are relatively fruitless.
  • SubaruWRXSubaruWRX Advanced Members Posts: 3,280 ✭✭


    Trust me when I say you will sadly NEVER retrieve your items.



    What’s typically done with stolen property is it goes through a bunch of hands before it ends up in an auction or a pawn shop. That way even if you can locate your stolen driver, there will be no one to blame.


    Wrong!



    It doesn’t matter how many people it goes through. If the OP finds his items at a pawn shop or anywhere else, if he can prove it is his, they will return it to him. It’s still stolen property no matter how many times it has changed possession.
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  • nicelifenicelife Members Posts: 42 ✭✭
    I had my clubs stolen a few years back, it sucks for a few weeks then it gets really fun. You are correct your home owners will buy you new clubs. Retail value of your bag minus deductible: Bag $3000 - deductable $1000 = $2000 cash in hand. Remember to take into account everything in the bag: rangefinder, range tokens, headcovers... I didn't account for this and had to make a supplemental claim.



    My advice, forget your old clubs, use this as an opportunity to build your dream bag. Getting my bag stolen turned out to be a great. I met new people on the message boards, tried all the newest clubs, and found great deals on the BST. I would say getting my clubs stolen made me excited about the game in a way I couldn't have expected. Also if you mention you had you bag stolen you will get a discount.
  • Rory4PresRory4Pres Advanced Members Posts: 904 ✭✭
    I'll just add...if searching on craigslist. I recommend using one of the phone apps rather than searching on your computer. Reason being is my app lets me pick all the cities/areas I want to include in the search. It's a quick easy way to search a lot of areas without having to type in each city's website like you would on a computer.



    This way you can search all of florida and surrounding states for golf key words once. Wouldn't take you more than a couple minutes to check each day.



    Also, remember other trading places like Facebook marketplace, offerup and letgo and as always, ebay.



    Good luck in your hunt. I'd personally file the insurance claim then keep looking.
  • larciellarciel I play for eagle Advanced Members Posts: 2,165 ✭✭
    Side question. If you found it on craigslist and the seller bought your club from the thief, can you take it from him for free? Since it was stolen good
  • SubaruWRXSubaruWRX Advanced Members Posts: 3,280 ✭✭
    larciel wrote:


    Side question. If you found it on craigslist and the seller bought your club from the thief, can you take it from him for free? Since it was stolen good


    Yes. Let the authorities do it for you. It’s still yours and it’s still stolen. Lesson is don’t buy stolen goods.
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  • OLD_BONESOLD_BONES #PARADISESTRONG ❤️ ClubWRX Charter Members Posts: 1,804 ClubWRX
    Thieves are the scum of the earth.
  • BB28403BB28403 Advanced Members Posts: 2,723 ✭✭
    OLD_BONES wrote:
    Thieves are the scum of the earth.




    Really the ones who look you in the eye and shake your hand are somewhat worse.
  • goondawg goondawg RIP my buddy Advanced Members Posts: 1,918 ✭✭
    SubaruWRX wrote:



    Trust me when I say you will sadly NEVER retrieve your items.



    What’s typically done with stolen property is it goes through a bunch of hands before it ends up in an auction or a pawn shop. That way even if you can locate your stolen driver, there will be no one to blame.


    Wrong!



    It doesn’t matter how many people it goes through. If the OP finds his items at a pawn shop or anywhere else, if he can prove it is his, they will return it to him. It’s still stolen property no matter how many times it has changed possession.




    He never said the owner couldn’t get his clubs back. Only that the original thief couldn’t be tracked
  • BogeyLJABogeyLJA Advanced Members Posts: 1,379 ✭✭
    SubaruWRX wrote:

    larciel wrote:


    Side question. If you found it on craigslist and the seller bought your club from the thief, can you take it from him for free? Since it was stolen good


    Yes. Let the authorities do it for you. It's still yours and it's still stolen. Lesson is don't buy stolen goods.




    No way, tell them to meet up and show up with 4 buddies
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  • myspinonitmyspinonit Advanced Members Posts: 2,784 ✭✭
    BogeyLJA wrote:

    SubaruWRX wrote:

    larciel wrote:


    Side question. If you found it on craigslist and the seller bought your club from the thief, can you take it from him for free? Since it was stolen good


    Yes. Let the authorities do it for you. It's still yours and it's still stolen. Lesson is don't buy stolen goods.




    No way, tell them to meet up and show up with 4 buddies


    Yeah that would be smart. Not. A guy named OJ comes to mind.
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  • straightshot7straightshot7 Advanced Members Posts: 2,844
    goondawg wrote:

    SubaruWRX wrote:



    Trust me when I say you will sadly NEVER retrieve your items.



    What’s typically done with stolen property is it goes through a bunch of hands before it ends up in an auction or a pawn shop. That way even if you can locate your stolen driver, there will be no one to blame.


    Wrong!



    It doesn’t matter how many people it goes through. If the OP finds his items at a pawn shop or anywhere else, if he can prove it is his, they will return it to him. It’s still stolen property no matter how many times it has changed possession.




    He never said the owner couldn’t get his clubs back. Only that the original thief couldn’t be tracked




    Mmmm he literally says "Trust me when I say you will sadly NEVER retrieve your items" and then goes on to imply that if you can't identify the original thief then you can't retrieve your items.
  • BB28403BB28403 Advanced Members Posts: 2,723 ✭✭
    I wonder if they just dumped all your stuff somewhere . Why would thieves doing financial stuff like credit cards, wallets, phones, etc. why would they bother with golf clubs?

    They have no idea their value, just a nuisance really. Look at lost and found on Craigslist. And put that you lost your clubs on there . As well as any other items .

    I know that prob doesn’t help. Sorry about your loss.
  • skajaquada77skajaquada77 Advanced Members Posts: 173
    This sucks... I’m in St Pete so I will keep my eyes open also. I was at the golf shop on 4th St not long ago talking to the owner and some low-life came in with a bag of clubs and ask the owner if he would give him $100 for it. I was glad to see the owner tell him no and to go away. He said they come in all the time. Good luck!
  • orangebangorangebang Advanced Members Posts: 836 ✭✭
    Payton1020 wrote:

    LeoLeo99 wrote:


    Congrats on the new baby!



    You won't have time to play golf now anyway. Lol. No need for clubs.



    My clubs live in the trunk of my car. Hope yours turn up. All the clubs at my local flea market are junky flips from the Goodwill store.
    I played more golf the 1st few years of my daughter's life, by far, than I do now. She's 14 now and a basketball player.


    See that's where you messed up. I didn't play any golf for the first few years of her life, but she's 14 now and a golfer. We play every week.
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  • g-offg-off Advanced Members Posts: 283 ✭✭
    and a club near me had an entire bag of cobras "walk" out the door and turned up within an hour at play it again, thankfully the nice gentleman had to use his id to sell the clubs to them
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  • BB28403BB28403 Advanced Members Posts: 2,723 ✭✭
    g-off wrote:
    and a club near me had an entire bag of cobras "walk" out the door and turned up within an hour at play it again, thankfully the nice gentleman had to use his id to sell the clubs to them




    We’re dealing with rocket scientists here!
  • aquapigaquapig Advanced Members Posts: 174
    The original thugs were caught and arrested in my car. So tracking the original thugs isn’t me end game. In fact, I have the police report and know their names and where they live. Although I’d love to have 5 mins with them in a locked room, all I care about is getting my clubs back.



    Thanks for all the good advice. I’m still searching.



    After talking to the Tampa detective, I’m convinced they dumped them. The bag was taking up my entire back seat and the cop said they typically will go pick up their boys when the steak a car. So to make room they probably dumped them, not knowing that bag was close to 3k with goods.



  • ColejColej Advanced Members Posts: 1,661 ✭✭
    Guys don’t think that if you have a new car that it can’t be stolen. With the proper software they can steal your car especially if it’s a car with the push button ignition.
  • TzoidTzoid Advanced Members Posts: 1,633
    Typically the Police and prosecutor question the thieves as to what they did with the stolen items and offer a recommendation to the judge for cooperating so I would stay on the detectives / Police handling the crime.



    Long shot but worth following up on.



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  • augustgolfaugustgolf Golf with dignity Coastal NCAdvanced Members Posts: 3,881 ✭✭
    BB28403 wrote:

    augustgolf wrote:
    FWIW - when I regrip my clubs, my ID is put under the new grip.



    Actually accidentally left a club behind on a green years ago. Went back to the groups behind me & I see my club in a player's bag. He was adamant it was his, but I took it out, and slit the grip about 3" up from the bottom - he looked a little ash-holey when he saw my ID there.



    Just a tip from your uncle augie.



    OP - I hope you recover your stuff




    No way you did that! No way. Lol



    I put my ID from amazon, weatherproof on the underside of the grip below it . Maybe one should carve their initials in the rubber somehow? Or burn it!




    Actually, I did - really not that hard to do.
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  • ForeleftForeleft Advanced Members Posts: 2,100 ✭✭
    If thieves realized what the used club market really looked like, they would never bother stealing them.



    As punishment, th judge should make them haggle with Golfwrx’ers on BST.
  • goondawg goondawg RIP my buddy Advanced Members Posts: 1,918 ✭✭
    edited March 13

    goondawg wrote:

    SubaruWRX wrote:



    Trust me when I say you will sadly NEVER retrieve your items.



    What’s typically done with stolen property is it goes through a bunch of hands before it ends up in an auction or a pawn shop. That way even if you can locate your stolen driver, there will be no one to blame.


    Wrong!



    It doesn’t matter how many people it goes through. If the OP finds his items at a pawn shop or anywhere else, if he can prove it is his, they will return it to him. It’s still stolen property no matter how many times it has changed possession.




    He never said the owner couldn’t get his clubs back. Only that the original thief couldn’t be tracked




    Mmmm he literally says "Trust me when I say you will sadly NEVER retrieve your items" and then goes on to imply that if you can't identify the original thief then you can't retrieve your items.




    It’s perfectly clear which part of his post I was referencing. Sorry you had trouble following
  • augustgolfaugustgolf Golf with dignity Coastal NCAdvanced Members Posts: 3,881 ✭✭
    Foreleft wrote:


    If thieves realized what the used club market really looked like, they would never bother stealing them.



    As punishment, th judge should make them haggle with Golfwrx’ers on BST.




    or at least have to discuss the new rules with a certain member in the rules forum



    (names withheld to protect the innocent - but most here know the reference)
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  • deadsolid...shankdeadsolid...shank ClubWRX Charter Members Posts: 14,334 ClubWRX
    augustgolf wrote:

    Foreleft wrote:


    If thieves realized what the used club market really looked like, they would never bother stealing them.



    As punishment, th judge should make them haggle with Golfwrx’ers on BST.




    or at least have to discuss the new rules with a certain member in the rules forum



    (names withheld to protect the innocent - but most here know the reference)




    Have to admit though August, that he is keeping that forum entertaining. The rules guys really are protective of the rules (and some surprisingly, of the USGA) and don’t care for someone questioning and stirring the pot about either. He’s certainly ruffling some feathers. And I’m starting to think that might be his main goal.
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  • augustgolfaugustgolf Golf with dignity Coastal NCAdvanced Members Posts: 3,881 ✭✭

    augustgolf wrote:

    Foreleft wrote:


    If thieves realized what the used club market really looked like, they would never bother stealing them.



    As punishment, th judge should make them haggle with Golfwrx’ers on BST.




    or at least have to discuss the new rules with a certain member in the rules forum



    (names withheld to protect the innocent - but most here know the reference)




    Have to admit though August, that he is keeping that forum entertaining. The rules guys really are protective of the rules (and some surprisingly, of the USGA) and don’t care for someone questioning and stirring the pot about either. He’s certainly ruffling some feathers. And I’m starting to think that might be his main goal.




    Yeah, I'll agree with you on that. Getting close to an Opinder ending, IMHO



    I don't participate much there, 'cause it's like wrestling a pig in the mud....sooner or later, you realize that the pig likes it!
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