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2019 Honda LPGA Thailand Feb 21-24

Argonne69Argonne69 Advanced Members Posts: 19,655 ✭✭
edited February 19 in LPGA/Ladies golf talk
  • Race to the CME Globe: 500 Points
  • Format: 72 holes
  • Purse: $1,600,000
  • Location: Siam Country Club, Pattaya Old Course, Chonburi, Thailand
  • Par: 72
  • Yardage: 6,576
  • History: This is the 14th year for the event. In 2018, [background=rgb(255, 255, 255)]Jessica Korda completed her wire-to-wire dominance at the Honda LPGA Thailand with a 5-under, 67 to finish at 25-under, which shatters the tournament record, on Sunday to win by four. She collects her first trophy since 2015 in her first start of the year[/background].


Coverage:
  • Feb 20: Golf Channel 11:00 pm - 3:00 am (ET)
  • Feb 21: Golf Channel 11:00 pm - 3:00 am (ET)
  • Feb 22: Golf Channel 11:30 pm - 3:30 am (ET)
  • Feb 23: Golf Channel 11:30 pm - 3:30 am (ET)
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  • Argonne69Argonne69 Advanced Members Posts: 19,655 ✭✭
    OK, now the fun really begins. Only three players in the World's Top 20 are sitting this one out, Inbee, Jessica (Injury), and Lucky 6. As much as I like Muni, I would have liked to have seen Lucky 6 get the sponsor's invite. Amateur Atthaya Thitikul, the 7th ranked amateur in the world, is also in the field.



    The weather forecast looks great with most sunny skies and temps in the low 90's. 'Could be breezy, though.



    With such a strong field, and a lot of top players teeing it up for the first time this season, it's hard to predict a winner. I'm going to go with Jin Young. She played excellent last week, and finished 7T last year. Moriya should also play well in front of the home crowd. She finished 2T last year. I certainly expect Ariya, Minjee, and Nelly to be in the mix. The dark horse is Amy Yang. She won it in '15 and '17, and had a decent finish last year.
  • StoochStooch Advanced Members Posts: 607 ✭✭
    The great part of this time of year on the LPGA are the 4 hour TV windows, even when I DVR and watch in the morning and this week there's finally the field to make all four hours enjoyable to watch image/taunt.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':taunt:' />
  • pmcukpmcuk Advanced Members Posts: 5,521 ✭✭
    I'm very curious to see how Nasa Hataoka does this season, and if she makes a good start. I expect a win at some point.
  • Raving ShankerRaving Shanker Advanced Members Posts: 264 ✭✭
    I doubt Amy Yang will be in the mix. I hope I'm wrong. I spent a bit of time following her last week, and she is coming out of putts - especially in the 4-12 foot range. For a technical flaw in a professional putting stroke to be so evident, it must be pretty bad.
  • ChronicSlicerChronicSlicer Advanced Members Posts: 895 ✭✭
    I got Lexi for this one, with a 2,4,1 in the last 3 years I like my odds, but not my luck. How about Moriya and Amy Yang near the top. Angel Yin for my longshot. I do believe she will get one this year.
  • MellowMellow Advanced Members Posts: 240 ✭✭
    I'm picking Moriya! Like Argonee says, T2 here last year, and she's doing pretty good the start of this season too, with a T4 at Diamond and T15 last week. The home crowd will push her over. I'm also kind of hoping she'll have a big season this year; I feel it's been building up.



    I also agree about the sponsor invite, I'm interested to see more of Jeongeun. But in their defense, Muni does look breathtaking in the traditional dress promo.



    Ah, So Yeon is starting! I'll be cheering for her and In Gee.



    Sidenote, I think the opening big-size montage of the players on the official website is pretty neat.
  • AWinfortheAgesAWinfortheAges Advanced Members Posts: 174 ✭✭
    I'm going to pick Pornanong. She T7 last year in this event. Maybe the home crowd will push her on into the winners circle this year.
  • hebsanhebsan Advanced Members Posts: 835 ✭✭
    This tournament marks the return of Wie after wrist surgery. From what I can tell from social media she really hasn't been beating the balls, so will be hard to tell if the wrist will hold up through four rounds.
  • BMCBMC Advanced Members Posts: 3,459 ✭✭
    Is Christie Kerr in the field? I only watch LPGA if she's playing. Feisty and fetching!
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  • agolf1agolf1 Advanced Members Posts: 537 ✭✭
    hebsan wrote:


    This tournament marks the return of Wie after wrist surgery. From what I can tell from social media she really hasn't been beating the balls, so will be hard to tell if the wrist will hold up through four rounds.


    This article was a bit odd. Would imply that she's focused and has been practicing.



    https://www.golfchannel.com/news/michelle-wie-returns-thailand-sights-set-becoming-world-no-1



    Never say never, but realistically if she can stay healthy for a few years straight, and win a few times (possibly another major) it seems like that would be a massive success. Got to wonder how many years she has left.
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  • Argonne69Argonne69 Advanced Members Posts: 19,655 ✭✭
    BMC wrote:


    Is Christie Kerr in the field? I only watch LPGA if she's playing. Feisty and fetching!




    Yes, Cristie is in the field. She's playing with Amy Olsen and Lindy Duncan for the first two rounds.
  • Argonne69Argonne69 Advanced Members Posts: 19,655 ✭✭
    agolf1 wrote:

    hebsan wrote:


    This tournament marks the return of Wie after wrist surgery. From what I can tell from social media she really hasn't been beating the balls, so will be hard to tell if the wrist will hold up through four rounds.


    This article was a bit odd. Would imply that she's focused and has been practicing.



    https://www.golfchan...ming-world-no-1



    Never say never, but realistically if she can stay healthy for a few years straight, and win a few times (possibly another major) it seems like that would be a massive success. Got to wonder how many years she has left.




    No 1? Not a chance. For starters, she can't stay healthy. She has 5 wins in 11 seasons, or less than 0.5 wins per season. The current #1 has been averaging 3 wins a year over the past three seasons. Michelle has managed only 1 win in the past 3 years.



    She's only 29 years old. In theory she could play for another 12 years like Cristie, or or 15 years like Karrie. I'm guessing she'll hang it up in 5 to 6 years.
  • StoochStooch Advanced Members Posts: 607 ✭✭
    IMO what made Michelle special as a teen are skills now possessed by many LPGA players and they're better at it honestly. Can Michelle win going forward? Sure, but it's much more difficult each passing year.
  • agolf1agolf1 Advanced Members Posts: 537 ✭✭
    You guys are more direct than me. But I agree; I'm guessing about 5 more years and I would consider 5 wins (including 1 more major) a huge success.



    If healthy, I think she's in the group of players that could win about once a year (can't be shocked a year with 0 or 2). All things considered, it would be surprising to see her double her current output in 1/2 the time though.
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  • postfoldpostfold oh how I LOVE putting Advanced Members Posts: 357 ✭✭
    I got Lexi for this one, with a 2,4,1 in the last 3 years I like my odds, but not my luck. How about Moriya and Amy Yang near the top. Angel Yin for my longshot. I do believe she will get one this year.




    I agree, Angel Yin breaks through this year! So much talent, just needs four solid rounds.



    Going to be rooting for In Gee and So Yeon this week, get the season off right.
  • StoochStooch Advanced Members Posts: 607 ✭✭
    Penilla Lindberg has really lost the plot, but I guess you can never take away being a Major Champion and beating Imbee in a playoff to do it
  • North TexasNorth Texas Advanced Members Posts: 3,879 ✭✭
    Man, the leaderboard on the LPGA website is all kinds of jacked up.
  • Argonne69Argonne69 Advanced Members Posts: 19,655 ✭✭
    edited February 20
    Wow, Jennifer Song at -8 after 13 holes.



    'Nice to see In Gee making birdies on her front 9. She's been a slow starter recently.



    Eun Hee having another fine start as well.
  • StoochStooch Advanced Members Posts: 607 ✭✭
    Oh Ariya I feel your pain, but when I hit a shot like that there aren't camera's recording it for the world to see lol
  • agolf1agolf1 Advanced Members Posts: 537 ✭✭
    Pretty good leaderboard after day 1. I'm interested to see if Minjee Lee can step up her game to the next level this year.



    Rough starts for Lydia, So Yeon, and Lexi...
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  • ChronicSlicerChronicSlicer Advanced Members Posts: 895 ✭✭
    Stooch wrote:


    Penilla Lindberg has really lost the plot, but I guess you can never take away being a Major Champion and beating Imbee in a playoff to do it




    Let`s be honest here, Pernilla never had the plot. She was a rookie in 2010, she has a whopping 10 career top ten finishes. She had a lucky day. I`m not saying she`s a bad player, or she won`t win again. But she`s not top tier stuff for sure.
  • Argonne69Argonne69 Advanced Members Posts: 19,655 ✭✭
    Michelle at -4. That's a good sign. Will she be able to repeat that for four rounds is the question, though.



    Lol. I should have kept my mouth shut regarding In Gee. She has a hot start on her front nine, and then plays the back nine even. Ugh. 'Still, -3 for the day is more than respectable.
  • WestTexWestTex Advanced Members Posts: 102 ✭✭
    Save for Lexi, Lydia, Nasa, and So Yeon I like this leaderboard. Also I would love to watch In Gee, SHP, and Ryann O'Toole in the same group today. I don't remember if I picked her to pick up her first win this year, but O'Toole was getting close last year. Hope she gets one. Also, Ayako in the mix so far, hoping she keeps it going!
  • StoochStooch Advanced Members Posts: 607 ✭✭
    Glad to see Brooke and Minjee near the top, 2 of my faves. As someone who tracks all Brooke's rounds, I find weird how when certain players are paired together they play well, not sure whether it's a competitive things or just a comfortable pairing, cause they were both in the exact same Junior class competing against each other, they turned pro months apart. But between the 2 of them they shot a bogey free -13 yesterday. The inverse also applies, I've noticed that when Brooke was paired with Paula Creamer (hasn't happened in a long time) Brooke plays terribly, she's missed a handful of cuts in her career and if memory serves me correctly she's missed 2 cut when paired with Paula, like I said just weird lol
  • StoochStooch Advanced Members Posts: 607 ✭✭

    Stooch wrote:


    Penilla Lindberg has really lost the plot, but I guess you can never take away being a Major Champion and beating Imbee in a playoff to do it




    Let`s be honest here, Pernilla never had the plot. She was a rookie in 2010, she has a whopping 10 career top ten finishes. She had a lucky day. I`m not saying she`s a bad player, or she won`t win again. But she`s not top tier stuff for sure.


    I never considered Penilla top tier but now she's not even close to being able to make cuts most weeks, she's usually over par most events. I'll cut her a little slack as she was just recently married and I don't think she had a lucky day, Penilla played great for about a month being near the top of the leaderboards each week .............. then she lost the plot lol image/taunt.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':taunt:' />
  • deadsolid...shankdeadsolid...shank ClubWRX Charter Members Posts: 14,340 ClubWRX
    I’m guessing she’s not here for this tournament, but is Gerina planning on playing this year.
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  • StoochStooch Advanced Members Posts: 607 ✭✭


    I’m guessing she’s not here for this tournament, but is Gerina planning on playing this year.


    I'm not sure what the LPGA maternity leave details, but I'm betting with a new baby she's probably not gonna leave the US at least in the beginning of the year. I suspect we'll see Gerina once the US West Coast swing start in about a month.
  • deadsolid...shankdeadsolid...shank ClubWRX Charter Members Posts: 14,340 ClubWRX
    Stooch wrote:



    I’m guessing she’s not here for this tournament, but is Gerina planning on playing this year.


    I'm not sure what the LPGA maternity leave details, but I'm betting with a new baby she's probably not gonna leave the US at least in the beginning of the year. I suspect we'll see Gerina once the US West Coast swing start in about a month.




    That’s what I wondered/figured. Didn’t think she’d probaly leave the country with a new little one. I see her husband is playing in Puerto Rico this week.
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  • WestTexWestTex Advanced Members Posts: 102 ✭✭
    Also happy to hear Brittany Lincicome is now expecting as well.



    http://www.lpga.com/news/2019-brittany-lincicome-announces-pregnancy
  • StoochStooch Advanced Members Posts: 607 ✭✭
    I actually enjoy this course and it's set up or any course with similar configurations. If you are on you can score and if you are off you get beat up. It's all about the approach shot and where you leave it. Hit it to the right spot on the green and you get a great look at birdie but hit it on the wrong spot on the green and 3-putting is a good outcome. It's tough to fake your way around this golf course.
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  • Argonne69Argonne69 Advanced Members Posts: 19,655 ✭✭
    'Nice finish by Jenny to grab the lead. There's an interesting mix of players near the top with plenty of golf left. I thought Amy Yang might do well here, and she's only two shots back. Lizette is looking to forget her late stumble at Indy last year. Lydia had a nice 5 under round to (somewhat) climb back into the event.



    Brooke had an off day shooting 73 with an odd double on the 18th. Wha? Michelle hanging in there. Su having another poor showing, as is Emma.



    Scores looked much higher in general.
  • StoochStooch Advanced Members Posts: 607 ✭✭
    Minjee looking great, I think it's her week, she seems to be playing very well but also seems to be getting all the right bounces this week too, and that's usually the combo that gets you the win every week.



    Also got laugh from Duncan French twitter, gas lighting Ariya and Amy Olson on 18 for not protecting the field lol. Ariya didn't mark her ball on the 18th green and the video looks like Amy almost asks Ariya not to mark it by the way she turned her head and stopped as she walked to the green then Amy proceeds to chip and hit Ariya's ball and lucky it did cause she'd probably still be chipping and putting the 18th. The bad optics is the fist bump at the end lol



    To me I understand the competitive integrity part of it but also if you are chipping of the green and can hit another players ball on purpose (or by accident) well that's a good shot by you lol Plus it's done on the men's game all the time, usually between friends but still. I guess if I was a competitor and Amy wins or finished ahead of me I would have issues with Ariya lol
  • StoochStooch Advanced Members Posts: 607 ✭✭
    edited February 22
    Argonne69 wrote:


    'Nice finish by Jenny to grab the lead. There's an interesting mix of players near the top with plenty of golf left. I thought Amy Yang might do well here, and she's only two shots back. Lizette is looking to forget her late stumble at Indy last year. Lydia had a nice 5 under round to (somewhat) climb back into the event.



    Brooke had an off day shooting 73 with an odd double on the 18th. Wha? Michelle hanging in there. Su having another poor showing, as is Emma.



    Scores looked much higher in general.


    lol yeah Brooke picked a bad time on 18 to hit the "Bad One". We didn't get to see the shot but when Jerry came on after the break and said Brooke was hitting her 4th from the fairway, I thought she made a mess from the bunker or the rough, I was shocked that she hit it out of bounds, cause it looks like there's lots of room for errors. Plus Brooke is pretty deadly accurate with her driver and even her misses aren't usually very far off line, well except this one lol
  • DavePelz4DavePelz4 A golf course in the Chicago area.ClubWRX Charter Members Posts: 24,003 ClubWRX
    Is this course playing really fast? Creamer averaged 270 off the tee in round 2 and over 260 for both rounds? Something smells like bad sushi.
  • StoochStooch Advanced Members Posts: 607 ✭✭
    DavePelz4 wrote:


    Is this course playing really fast? Creamer averaged 270 off the tee in round 2 and over 260 for both rounds? Something smells like bad sushi.


    Greens are pretty fast and the fairways are rolling out decently too, maybe Paula hit the gym in the off season, but Danielle Kang was looking like Rory off the tee herself, the players are probably getting some help. I hope this helps but Mo Martin average drive off the tee was 217 yards so all is still right in the world lol
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    Firm and fast. It's like a thousand degrees there.
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  • DavePelz4DavePelz4 A golf course in the Chicago area.ClubWRX Charter Members Posts: 24,003 ClubWRX
    tbowles411 wrote:


    Firm and fast. It's like a thousand degrees there.




    You have to be correct Sir. Looked at a couple of other players...Lexi must be hitting 3W off the tee. Brooke and Lydia are both in the 270ish range. Maybe it's the Sketchers.
  • StoochStooch Advanced Members Posts: 607 ✭✭
    DavePelz4 wrote:

    tbowles411 wrote:


    Firm and fast. It's like a thousand degrees there.




    You have to be correct Sir. Looked at a couple of other players...Lexi must be hitting 3W off the tee. Brooke and Lydia are both in the 270ish range. Maybe it's the Sketchers.


    Nah, sketchers only make you a bad tipper lol
  • Holy MosesHoly Moses Advanced Members Posts: 10,273 ✭✭
    Stooch wrote:


    Minjee looking great, I think it's her week, she seems to be playing very well but also seems to be getting all the right bounces this week too, and that's usually the combo that gets you the win every week.



    Also got laugh from Duncan French twitter, gas lighting Ariya and Amy Olson on 18 for not protecting the field lol. Ariya didn't mark her ball on the 18th green and the video looks like Amy almost asks Ariya not to mark it by the way she turned her head and stopped as she walked to the green then Amy proceeds to chip and hit Ariya's ball and lucky it did cause she'd probably still be chipping and putting the 18th. The bad optics is the fist bump at the end lol



    To me I understand the competitive integrity part of it but also if you are chipping of the green and can hit another players ball on purpose (or by accident) well that's a good shot by you lol Plus it's done on the men's game all the time, usually between friends but still. I guess if I was a competitor and Amy wins or finished ahead of me I would have issues with Ariya lol




    It’s against the rules and they both should be penalized
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  • StoochStooch Advanced Members Posts: 607 ✭✭
    Holy Moses wrote:

    Stooch wrote:


    Minjee looking great, I think it's her week, she seems to be playing very well but also seems to be getting all the right bounces this week too, and that's usually the combo that gets you the win every week.



    Also got laugh from Duncan French twitter, gas lighting Ariya and Amy Olson on 18 for not protecting the field lol. Ariya didn't mark her ball on the 18th green and the video looks like Amy almost asks Ariya not to mark it by the way she turned her head and stopped as she walked to the green then Amy proceeds to chip and hit Ariya's ball and lucky it did cause she'd probably still be chipping and putting the 18th. The bad optics is the fist bump at the end lol



    To me I understand the competitive integrity part of it but also if you are chipping of the green and can hit another players ball on purpose (or by accident) well that's a good shot by you lol Plus it's done on the men's game all the time, usually between friends but still. I guess if I was a competitor and Amy wins or finished ahead of me I would have issues with Ariya lol




    It's against the rules and they both should be penalized


    Don't disagree and would have no problem with both being penalized, just for me not marking your ball on the greens is the not the high priority of things I get riled up about in golf. That said rules are rules and need to be enforced, cause this practice seems to happen most times between friends and that makes it even more of a competitive imbalance IMO
  • Argonne69Argonne69 Advanced Members Posts: 19,655 ✭✭
    Oy. In Gee only averaging 238 yds for two rounds. Something is definitely amiss with her swing. Lydia must have hit the weights in the off season, as she has averaged 261 yds.
  • LottaoutsLottaouts Advanced Members Posts: 125
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    Yesterday was entertaining to watch. The Backstopping Incident. Players reacting to being put on the clock. Pitch shot with sizeable divot taken out of the 18th green, and Dannielle Kang hopped-up on adrenaline. Blabbing loudly to her caddy buddy and oblivious to her playing partners across the 13th fairway. Mugging for the Camera at every chance. I guess blondes do have more fun.



    The 18th green is borderline goofy but provides drama. Especially with a rear hole location.



    Setting up the 15th hole at only 260 yds was a good call. I hope they do it again on Sunday.



    Need Brooke and the Thai girls to go low today. Glad to have Minjee to root for this weekend.
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  • Seamus McDuffSeamus McDuff Advanced Members Posts: 845 ✭✭
    For those who didn’t see the backstopping incident, there’s video in this article. Unfortunately it doesn’t show Ariya making the move to go mark her ball and being told not to by either Olsen or Olsen’s caddie.



    https://golfweek.com/2019/02/22/shackelford-rise-of-backstopping-drives-at-integrity-of-golf/
  • StoochStooch Advanced Members Posts: 607 ✭✭


    For those who didn’t see the backstopping incident, there’s video in this article. Unfortunately it doesn’t show Ariya making the move to go mark her ball and being told not to by either Olsen or Olsen’s caddie.



    https://golfweek.com...egrity-of-golf/


    Here's the whole thing or a more in-depth version. Just click the tweet thread chain and its the 2nd vid in Duncan's post



  • agolf1agolf1 Advanced Members Posts: 537 ✭✭
    Argonne69 wrote:


    Oy. In Gee only averaging 238 yds for two rounds. Something is definitely amiss with her swing. Lydia must have hit the weights in the off season, as she has averaged 261 yds.


    I was surprised to see In Gee's distance drop off last year (you pointed this out elsewhere). Her swing is so sound that you'd think she can just flush it shot after shot. I obviously hope this isn't the case, but I wonder if she's dealing with some type of medical issue given how much she slimmed down last year. I.e. this has caused her to lose some strength/speed. I also think this is a big year for her. She seemed to be under a lot of pressure from not winning since Evian (was close a lot). Hopefully, the UL Crown and win late last year can propel her forward. I don't know if she'd ever dominate, but I thought she had the game to get to where So Yeon Ryu is.



    Not sure on Lydia (also slimmed down a ton). She's lost marginal distance too the last few years, despite trying to switch to a draw (maybe abandoned at this point) and numerous claims at various points that she's hitting it farther.



    Both are a bit strange. They were each averaging ~250 a few years ago. I would have thought they could pickup a few yards until they turned 25 yrs old or so (combination of getting marginally stronger, mechanics, etc).
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  • Argonne69Argonne69 Advanced Members Posts: 19,655 ✭✭
    My theory is that In Gee is still suffering back issues associated with luggagegate. She was also ill at one point last season, and I believe it was somewhat serious.



    Lydia's swing looks better every week. Her diet caused her to lose weight, but it seems her workout routine is putting on muscle, so maybe that's the key to the added distance. That, and finally being comfortable with the swing. However, keep in mind that she's averaging 248 for the season. That's better than last year's 245, but she still has a way to go to get into the Goldilocks zone.
  • agolf1agolf1 Advanced Members Posts: 537 ✭✭
    Stooch wrote:


    Minjee looking great, I think it's her week, she seems to be playing very well but also seems to be getting all the right bounces this week too, and that's usually the combo that gets you the win every week.


    Hope she does well. I think she has a lot of potential out of the very very good group of players. She's got 10 yards on most of the players, and she seems a bit more focused on golf than some of the others.



    Not saying it's easy but if anything I think she could have squeezed out a few more wins so far. Hopefully the trajectory continues upward. I wouldn't be surprised to see her get to #1 within a few years.
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  • StoochStooch Advanced Members Posts: 607 ✭✭
    edited February 22
    This whole back stopping thing is getting lots of play in the media, Golf Central just went through it also. I wonder if we will see a couple 2 stroke penalties once the round starts today? LPGA might wanna save face and with Amy so close to the lead might not want the headache of not giving out a penalty if she were to go on and win
  • xxioxxio Advanced Members Posts: 5,647 ✭✭
    Definitely back stop but I doubt penalties will be asked. As mentioned, Olson nera the lead. The bigger issue would be penalizing Ariya in Thailand when she is the lesser guilty party.
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